I think you guys misunderstood that Grover IS actually mentally 12 (the show just didn’t explain it very well). Satyrs just age a lot differently than humans because they live longer. So Grover is still the Satyr equivalent of a preteen.

@laylammorais

7 ай бұрын

The Grover slander here made me sad, thanks for commenting this 😭

@Maria-jq3mb

7 ай бұрын

I think they might explain it later on in the series as they gonna go to the quest. Since it mightve been already lots of information being thrown at u within 2 episodes.

@tristancreed

7 ай бұрын

Satyrs age slower than humans. Grover is at least twice Percy's age and will continue to be so in the future.

@scooby_doobies

7 ай бұрын

Walker Scobell was actually cast when he was 12 this TV series with me since two years which why he’s 14.

@daylangraham5741

7 ай бұрын

well you ca n only be twice someones age once lol@@tristancreed

The reason why Grover wants so badly to tell Percy the truth about his mom is BECAUSE he's been lying to him for almost a year. He feels guilty about it, and genuinely wants to be Percy's friend, so having to lie to him to protect him from the monsters sucked, especially since it broke Percy's trust in him.

@pinkyArmando

7 ай бұрын

Adding to this that it's also only been a year, not 10 as Nerdy said. That context does change the level of gaslighting, especially as Grover only lied about the Mrs Dodds incident. Although in the book, it was a bit worse lol. The way Percy had the rest of the semester trying to trick Grover into admitting Mrs Dodds existed and succeeding sometimes lol.

@hikari9262

7 ай бұрын

It's part of that. But the main reason is he is desperate to go out on a quest to search for Pan, or he was ordered by the Council of Cloven Elders to do so.

I feel like the movies being your only source of info for Percy's story can do a lot of harm as the movie left a lot of things twisted from the books. I recommend you take the show as its own instead of comparing to how the movie went, to be honest 😅

@jayshawn

7 ай бұрын

comparing in general is not good because it's a new take on the story but agreed

@AndyLuu72

7 ай бұрын

So true! The way the movie portrayed Grover was horrible! The events were so twisted that it ruined the whole book. People who’ve seen the movie will have such a screwed view of the show.

@joshuaoddo3489

7 ай бұрын

If you’re going to compare, compare to the books. I personally reread them last month to refresh my memory and also bc I was excited for the show but still had a month after waiting since 2020

Dude, Nerdy needs to stop complaining every 5 seconds and just watch the show. Grover literally says he doesn’t want to continue to lie and it’s explained that they lied to keep him from truly knowing what he is to keep the monsters off his back for as long as possible. If he spent less time trying to find things to hate, he probably would’ve heard those lines 😂

@MP-ru9rx

6 ай бұрын

Omfg THANK you it's needless picking and makes it so hard to watch.

@doedeon6046

5 ай бұрын

It got to the point of me thinking he is looking for things to not like about the show rather than just watching it.

@statonchapman7500

3 ай бұрын

Does the grover hate continue after this episode of them watching. Just so I know if I need to continue watching

23:20 Lying to Percy about the world of gods to keep him alive is not the same as lying about his mom, who he thinks is dead, being alive and in the hands of who they think is an evil god

@janaechapman2879

7 ай бұрын

Remember, at the beginning he warns that once you know who you are, the monsters do to. They didn't tell him to keep him hidden.

I think you may have missed some of what the show was trying to say and are also competing with your ideas from the movie. Grover and Percy only knew each other for a few months, he was not lying to Percy for "years".

The book is pretty fast paced as well. It's also a lot easier to just write a sentence like: "A few days went by" than showing that on screen without it taking too much screentime, without really adding that much. They are clearly trying to get to the actual quest part sooner, because the main selling point is the trio of Percy, Annabeth and Grover. We are basically now about 140 pages into the book and have 235 pages left for another 6 episodes. And I think that's a good decison, since Camp HalfBlood is a cool place, but all in all we never spent that much time there in any of the many books.

Clarisse is the daughter of ares btw and that spear was a gift from him. Shes literally fighting for her dad's attention just as much as Percy is fighting for his dad's attention.

@calebmcclure3893

7 ай бұрын

But the show never bothered to explain that...

@Greywaren96

7 ай бұрын

@@calebmcclure3893 it's already explaining way too much in just two episodes

@SaamahLouis-Jean-xn6ff

7 ай бұрын

Give it time. It’s only been two episodes.

@wintertrooper7918

7 ай бұрын

​@calebmcclure3893 because the book doesn't explain that at this point either we don't really learn much about her relationship with her father till book 2

@All-ze9cl

7 ай бұрын

@@calebmcclure3893 they'll probably explain all that if they make a second season, the sea of monsters was when she was really fleshed out as a character

To clarify some stuff on Demigods, although they do have to train, they have an innate battle sense when in danger that just kinda translates into ADHD so percy's "skills" this episode are more im gunna die so lemme work with anything I could know and less i got training you didn't see. All the weapons and armor in camp half blood are base level magical and Capture the Flag actually does involve quite a few injuries, along with most of the usual activities at Camp. One of the main reasons they don't tell Percy stuff is because he can be Impulsive AF, especially in the beginning, and try to leave on his own to hunt down Hades rather than be given the tools and assistance needs to do so. Also a note on the bad adulting in Camp half blood after his mom dies, there is an overarching theme of the gods and by extension their institutions like the Camp have a lot of innate issues that they refuse to acknowledge and overtime Percy and the team need to find and make a better system.

I think watching the movies is a detriment to your understanding of the plot and characters. And certain questions will just be answered later. Percy starts out confused and frustrated with the order of information being delivered or not delivered to him so I imagine the audience feels some of that since it's mostly his perspective. You're feeling disappointed in the adults around Percy just like he is. These aren't the best decisions for him, that's why there's so much conflict.

Why is he confused that Grover doesn't want to lie to him anymore and feels bad about lying to him. Like the concept of a character feeling bad for theor action is somehow, foreign to him like what!? 😂

5:06 If you slow down that scene, you can see the water bending behind the girl to pull her into the fountain. It's really subtle but really cool once you notice.

I think it would be beneficial if you just forgot the film existed lol. they changed the book SO MUCH for the film that it’s a completely different story. I guess for me personally because the film was super fast paced through all these parts that the show actually feels slower paced to me. As a book fan this is definitely refreshing to have as an adaptation when all we did have was the monstrosity that was the films.

With the topic of Grover seeming younger than 24, you have to remember that Satyrs live for like 800 years, so in the grand scheme of how long Satyrs live, he is relatively young.

Before Percy became aware of what he could do (shoving the bully into the fountain) the creatures who would come to kill him could not detect him. As soon as his mother said "You're the son of a god" he pinged on the "demigod radar" of the Minotaur (and everyone else). Grover's job to this point has been to protect Percy from his own folly. However, if you think seven-year-old Percy needed to be fighting the Minotaur I think that you're worse than you are painting the people attempting to protect the child until he's BIG ENOUGH to stand a chance of survival.

@user-pt5cl2ro6f

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, many, and I mean MANY demigod children don't make it bc they get detected too young, he doesn't know that but it's not an excuse.

Firstly, They didnt want Percy knowing that his mum is alive in hell to be the deciding factor on him actually going on the quest because that would mean his priority is his mum and not the bolt and to both chiron and mr d, thats whats most important because they are trying to avvoid the war and to them percy should be obedient and go on the quest to retrieve the bolt but as you'll soon find out he's not the most respectful of the gods with good reason of course. Secondly, Grover is both 12 AND 24 satyrs age slower than humans physically and mentally so although he's 24 he is Still12 in a general sense.

I’ve been watching a few of your reactions so far and I think I’m getting at a conclusion. If Nerdy isn’t immediately on board he transforms into a hypercritical watcher that will dissect everything to make sure to have reasons for his dislikes. Here’s a challenge for episode 3, stop comparing the movie. The movie was bad, and did not follow the book. She even said it in the first two minutes. Why spend all your time compairing when you could just make the active choice of discovering this narrative and how it’s told.

Literally the trailer of this show alone is better than the entire movie so...my advice is scrap that film out of your perception of the Percy Jackson story and just watch the show as what it is.

Grover is 24. But that's 12 in human years. It's like how a one-year-old dog is biologically equal to a 31-year-old person.

I hope you don't make the film as reference on why things in the series happened, just like how you akded "why when he sees words and it didn't translate into greek?" First of all in the film, there were greek words and it translate to alphabeth (english). And it didn't happen in the book, but any demigod do can read greek words to certain degree. They are not fluent but more like familiarity. They also kinda know what it meant (but if you show them to read a full sentences, unless they learn in the camp they'll be like "wtf you think i know how to read that?"

@thatbish2534

7 ай бұрын

i’m glad i’m not the only one who feels that way, especially since he’s not familiar with the books, and he’s one of the ppl who actually enjoyed the movies. i think he’s relying on the movies and comparing the differences between the show and the film, and how it’s not how he recalls it, and him being “lost”. I find it strange how he had the most critiques as he’s a movie fan of percy jackson and not a genuine one 😭

@fie97

7 ай бұрын

@@thatbish2534 i stay bcs the reaction of the girl. She genuenly tried to explain but don't want to spoil. But everytime she speaks, he interrupt her

The movie really messed y’all up . The opening of the show literally said the kids knowing they are demigods makes it easier for the monsters to smell them . Therefore grover had to keep it a secret until it was time for him to go . The show isn’t confusing you because these things are said in there , g Let go of the movie and you will be fine . Lying about Percy’s mom was not in his best interest, lying about who he is was in his best interests. They all have mommy and daddy issues Percy mom dying isn’t really that deep to them .

The book is actually paced the same way. You meet Percy, he gets attacked then he’s at the camp lol. You find out more as the story progresses

23:00 sorry I can't help it, but that's lieterally the point, Grover's been lying to him (to PROTECT him mind you) So he feels like Percy should FINALLY know truth now that he knows he's a half blood. Like it didn't cross your mind that Grover might've felt guilty and responsible for that at the same time? I don't get yall logic here. Cut Grover some slack he's being a good friend here.

Abuse comes in different forms. Its not always out in the open physical altercation and screaming, It can be weaponized incompetence and weaponized laziness. It can be financial abuse. I think it wasnt Disney sanitizing it was Rick Riordan presenting an abusive person who isn't beating people or screaming in their face. Thats what this version of Gabe Ugliano is. edit: The thing about Grover is satyrs age twice as slow as humans do so he really is twelve physically and mentally he's just aging real slow. also what you're not understanding about the lying is that as soon as a demigod becomes aware of that fact, monsters start hunting them. The longer they could keep Percy unaware of his godhood the longer he'd be safe in the world. As soon as Ms. Dodds attacked him (and remember she was looking for something) that was when he became aware of his godhood because he realized real shit was happening so from that point omward his life is in danger. Not to mention that he is a child that should not exist because Poseidon should not be out boinking and as a child of the Big 3 he is in extra danger. Also Percy's father ignoring him is not a unique experience to Percy its something all demigods share so just realize all those kids are busting their ass for the smallest scraps of attention from their parents.

@davidnguyen3275

7 ай бұрын

Boinking 🤭 I don't know why but that cracked me up. Thanks for the info.

@TheProgressiveFrequency

7 ай бұрын

In a way, I find this new Gabe to be almost more creepy and disgusting than the first, because of how manipulative he is and deceitful. It's not like he goes out of his way to pretend he's a nice guy, but he does act like he's angry because everyone else is conspiring against him somehow, like it's everyone else's fault he's the way he is.

@justarandomveryintelligent8934

7 ай бұрын

@@TheProgressiveFrequency i totally agree. Its a more subtle form abuse than the usual kind thats portrayed so i get people going "hes not that bad." Thing is thats what people say about the real pieces of shit in the world.

@dassadec

7 ай бұрын

Except Gabe was hitting Sally.

@quinn9074

7 ай бұрын

@@TheProgressiveFrequencyyeah also we will get flashbacks of sally and Poseidon (and gabe) so maybe sally learned how to deal with the years of abuse

It would appear that I'm fhe first one to point this out. Satyrs age half as fast as humans. Grover is roughly 12 years old in human years.

I don't remember anyone (other than Nerdy) telling us that Percy has only been at Camp Half-blood for only forty-eight hours.

Sighhhhhh, I get it’s for ✨content & commentary✨but the deliberate misunderstandings and need for overexplanations on Nerdy’s part was so frustrating and annoying! I came to see if a book reader and movie watcher would like a cute fantasy show with a modern take on Greek mythology, but instead all I got was ‘uh duhm😪’ and ‘well actually🤓’ takes 👎. Which was also extremely annoying in this case considering this is the exact type of content they usually watch but now all of a sudden everything needs to be spelled out in explicit detail in the first two episodes?! Like hello you are supposed to learn about the world WITH Percy…. It absolutely makes me realize why the movies that were made previously were what they were, clearly too many audience members can’t just watch a story unfold these days 😞

@user-pt5cl2ro6f

6 ай бұрын

When they people get too used to "telling and not showing", this is what happens. Everything needs to be spelled out like a dictionary, no room for subtext and subtlety.

@hei7846

6 ай бұрын

The same thing happened with the Attack on Titan and Vinland Saga reactions

grover still acts like a kid bc not only physically he ages slower but mentally. Hes still a kid too in satyr years

Nerdy, my guy, you're over thinking this WAY too much. Lol😂

@Greywaren96

7 ай бұрын

at the same time he doesnt think enough cause some of what he's asking is pretty obvious

@shaynejay

7 ай бұрын

sorry to say this, but its just so annoying

I don’t understand what you are so confused about this . Now I’m starting to think you are just searching for a reason to be confused. 1) no one knew who Percy’s father was , not even sally (the mom) . We know this because Percy sleeps in the Hermes cabin with the other unclaimed kids . 2) expanding from number 1 , therefore the goal for Percy to be here was never about the war . That’s why he was just chilling . 3)Zeus thinking Poseidon got his forbidden kid that no one knows exists since he shouldn’t to secretly steal the Bolt isn’t a leap ( forbidden kid and gods using demigods to do things they can’t are things said in this show you can’t even blame not reading the book for your confusion you are just not listening) 4) there is no time to train Percy , Zeus gave a deadline when he was claimed and the winter solstice is an event that can’t be moved . It’s like saying Christmas needs to be moved .

@Netizen29

7 ай бұрын

I think the main issue is we're told about the forbidden kids and the tensions between the three main gods, but the stolen bolt, the ultimatum and Hades being the guilty one seem to come from nowhere. Zeus losing his bolt should have been a big deal introduced a little earlier. Then, it would have made more sense to involve Percy: "OMG, he will believe it's you because you've been claimed by Poseidon, you're in danger, the camp is in danger..." And Grover finding out Hades could have taken Percy's mom is of course a way to motivate him, and should be a main selling point. If they know that he should go to Hell, it only helps to tell him. For the last scene to make sense, Grover should have revealed what he found to everyone in the end, or the adults should have brought him to convince Percy. From my perspective, the last scene felt like: ok, now that we know that you're Poseidon son, you earned a new quest, like in a video game.

@euphoria2737

7 ай бұрын

@@Netizen29 1) the stolen bolt didn’t come out of nowhere , it was none of the kids business. 2) hades being guilty didn’t come out of nowhere , it was with Poseidon or hades . Poseidon is deemed innocent however the camp knows it’s not Percy so that leaves hades . 3) again Zeus losing the bolt is a godly issue why should it be introduced early to random kids it was introduced when percy became a suspect . 4) the last scene was “ hey now that Poseidon has publicly claimed you , it made you a suspect so you should clear your name . Hades is the other suspect so probably go to him” and that’s literally what was said in the episode, that’s why I’m convinced y’all are acting confused on purpose. 5) Grover thinks him going for his mother is good motivation, the adults see it as unnecessary distraction. They are gods they could care less about mortals and Percy ruining the mission for one mortal is not something they want .

@Filbertsupremacy

7 ай бұрын

See this is all laid out very clearly in the books, but to the average viewer who has no prior knowledge of anything, these two episodes are throwing exposition after exposition after exposition which throws the pacing off and ends up glossing over some nuances like the things you addressed. I think it’s really important to remember that not everyone has read the book, and that your prior knowledge makes some things obvious to you that others without may entirely not get. Their criticisms of it are not invalid because the show at this point hasn’t had the time to really introduce all the tensions and nuances in a natural manner, so the stuff with Hades and the bolt for example DOES come abit out of nowhere because it’s suddenly dropped at the end of the episode. It was also revealed mostly through Chiron in a quick exposition dump in the book, but we also had a bit more time to follow Percy through camp and gather our bearings about the world. The show only gives us an episode. It just needs some time to settle in, because right now it’s really trying to focus on clearing the setup and in the process it sacrifices some character moments (e.g. I think Grover and Percy will have some really interesting tension as their relationship is pretty strained right now) and world building details, so hopefully non-reader audiences will stick it out long enough to get to that point, but that won’t happen with fans chastising them for not immediately catching on to details on lore.

@euphoria2737

7 ай бұрын

@@Filbertsupremacy people with no prior knowledge are doing just fine . I’ve seen plenty reactions and they are doing just fine because everyone they are confused about is in the show . The problem is them wanting the movie to be canon .

"Is this the Avengers theme song?" Not far off actually - the soundtrack is by Bear McCreary who also scored Agents of SHIELD so he's got 7 years of Marvel experience

It’s just like the books lol, it’s really fast paced in the beginning than later on it slows down, we didn’t really spent that much time in camp half lol & Grover is 24 but he’s technically 12 or 13 bc his specie ages half that humans do, you kinda misunderstanding sum a lot of things honestly

I don’t know if you guys noticed it, but the reason why Percy was able to break the Minotaur horns and stab it to death, was because he had previously used the sword to cut a gash which made the horn weak, and then he was able to break it off And stab the Minotaur.

@laylammorais

7 ай бұрын

I also thought it was related to how it got stuck to the car's wheel when he broke the window. Perhaps both of these things contributed

@AnxietyRat

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, I totally didn't catch that my first watch through at all... I was like "how the fuck is Percy strong enough to break off a horn?!??!!?!" but I did see he damaged it in my second watch through!

The guy kind of annoyed me with some of his viewpoints. Like grover was lying to him to protect him as well as his mom and cyrone. You don’t need the source material to know that. If he would have paid attention to the beginning dialogue then it makes sense. It may be a kids show but there are a lot of stakes. To understand camp half blood, you need to understand basic Greek mythology so yeah not everyone is going to be nice to each other. It just seems like he’s either really ignorant in the subject or he’s trying to hard to react

This is not spoiler since i think they skip the reason on how Sally didn't tell him what is he. Bcs the less you know about your self the safer you are. When young demigods realized who he is, they'll be in constant batle bcs his 'smell' will be stronger to the monster. That's why as best as possible Sally teach him about greek mythology but never said that is real so when there a monster around, they'll ignore him. It did sounds like she gaslight him tho, but percy is considered 'lucky' for young demigods. He keep being expelled from school bcs his encounter with other worl beings but he had his mother to protect him. Some unlucky youbg demigods couldn't even make up to the camp bcs they're dead (you guess, bcs the monsters).;

As someone who was born just a little late to ride the wave of growing up with Harry Potter, Percy Jackson _was my shit_ . I don’t think I could be happier with how this show has started.

I agree that some of the pacing is off but I think that your knowledge of the movies is interfering with seeing this as a separate entity. here's a summary of my thoughts and some of the context from the books that I think might be helpful (acknowledging that these details were either omitted/not clearly stated in the show): 1) Grover's age. Satyrs age at around half the rate as humans so he is mentally still a child, like Percy and Annabeth. 2) Lying to Percy. Because Percy moves schools so much he was only at Yancy for at most a year if I remember correctly so Grover hasn't been lying to Percy for a decade as they've only known each other for less than a year. Govers came to Yancy intending to identify Percy as a half-blood and then get him to camp ASAP while trying to keep him safe. Also, all satyrs work for Dionysis so if I'm not mistaken, Grover works for Mr D so he couldn't tell Percy when Mr D was lying. 3) Training/timing. In the books it is made clear that Percy does spend some time at camp before his quest, specifically getting some swordplay lessons from Luke (which I would've loved to see) I think overall the show struggles a bit to explain some of the timing clearly both with regards to how long Percy was at Yancy and at Camp. right now it does kinda come across as if everything happened in like 3 days 4) the quest. The next episode will probably involve the preparations including visiting the oracle. As Clarus mentioned in the books a major reason why Percy has to go beyond just avoiding war is to clear his name to be safe from Zeus. I do like how they used Grover telling Percy about the possibility of his mum being alive to show Percy's mixed motivations as a substitute for his inner monologue. but overall I just think these episodes are quite exposition-heavy 5) Performances, I think Walker Scobell does a great job with what he's given but it would always be something of an uphill battle to portray Percy without his iconic narration and sass. As a whole, I think everyone is doing a great job. 6) I do think that some of the edges have been filed down slightly for Disney+ including Gabe's and Mr. D's characterisations I do think this can come up later as we don't find out that Gabe hits Sally until later in the book, and as pointed out by other people, not all abuse has to be physical. overall I'm really happy with this adaptation and I hope it finds its footing a bit more now that much of the exposition is out of the way. I agree that the show might have benefitted from 45min episodes rather than 30min. PS Sorry for the long comment and thank you if you read all of this

I hate the trend of Disney + show episodes being so short. it's been a major problem for so many of their shows.

he’s not telekinetic the water grabbed her and forced her in the fountain

the movies are known to not do any justice to percy jackson, and how rick hates them so why would you compare your information to the movie? please just watch with a clean slate and take in the information

Just read the book it’s the exact same, the movies didn’t go based off those that’s why it’s different…

“i still don’t understand how they’re supposed to protect them against hurting each other” oh they don’t. there’s a no maiming rule for a reason, my assumption is the apollo kids working the infirmary got crazy medical skills. also others have said it but grover is 24 with a bigger lifespan, he’s still a kid (i’m like half sure in the books he LOOKED 24 (but was in middle school with percy inexplicably) but acted and felt percy’s age). adore your reactions!!

I love new people being introduced to Percy Jackson, but watching people react to the show who haven't read the books is torture 😭. The commentary is killing me lol, but hopefully some of the confusion y’all have gets cleared in the later episodes!

@laylammorais

7 ай бұрын

Fr, she was too patient to explain stuff to him, I would've gone mad 😂

@Greywaren96

7 ай бұрын

it's just these particular reactors that are very frustrating to watch at times, especially when they decide they want to pick on a show

@abbyclarke1717

7 ай бұрын

​@laylammorais fr tho. I noticed her being significantly less vocal and I was like "valid" however there were moments, I shall admit, where I wished she would've shut him down

@kolakokaa

6 ай бұрын

@@laylammoraisshe was too patient?! She was literally wrong most of the time??

I feel like asking if this is better than the movies is such a low bar to clear that you would have to actively be digging to go under it.

@AhsokaGryffindor

7 ай бұрын

That bar is down in the underworld

Nerdy I love you but you are way overthinking this 😂

I think it mentions in the books too...Once a demigod realizes the "world" they are seeing is real, their presence becomes stronger to monsters... Hence deny it till you are 12-13 at the very least...so you can stay among normal humans is the idea with Percy here. His mother knew a day would come where he will start spending half his year doing godly stuff, but they didn't want to start him early.

@wintertrooper7918

7 ай бұрын

Yeah all monsters can 'smell' percy but once he starts becoming more aware of it all the scent gets stronger

@lizkidadle9732

6 ай бұрын

What you’re saying was said as well on percy’s narration at the beginning of the show. They didn’t remember it 😅or paid attention.

@khushir6340

6 ай бұрын

@@lizkidadle9732 Almost no reactor noticed that part...like you said..even though it mentioned in the 1st scene!!

The horn of the minotaur - 1. He already cut it halfway through with the sword in a previous strike. 2. He's getting rained on and has his godly strength.

I heard this criticism of shows before in the beginning that we're not spending time with the characters but I never understood this criticism in the early episodes. Like we will be spending a lot more time with the main characters and the shows will have plenty of time to show case their characters more. I also don't agree with the grover criticism. his mentally twelve still I'm pretty sure, he just ages slowly. Because the show didn't explain this, I think they hoped audiences would pick this up by Grover's behaviour instead of needing to explain?

@Greywaren96

7 ай бұрын

i mean it is very obvious... only people overthinking every single aspect of the show would have trouble understanding that

In the books Gabe being physically abusive is smth Percy only really clocks onto at the end, so it makes sense to not really showcase it yet. Sally staying with Gabe is meant to be confusing in the sense that Percy doesnt get it as a kid, but not unrealistically confusing. It's meant to just be a really bad relationship with abuse under the surface, not a flanderised hollywood "LOOK AT THIS PIECE OF SHIT HES SUCH A PIECE OF SHIT LOOK AT HOW BAD THIS PIECE OF SHIT IS" bonanza

Percy actually spends several weeks in camp before the quest, but to show it on screen is more complicated. And Grover is mentally 12.

It's interesting to me to see someone who hasn't read the book comment on the pacing of these first two episodes. I loved them, but I thought the pacing might come off as a bit slow for people new to the story. They took 2 full episodes (a quarter of the whole season!) just to spend on setup, on introducing this world and these characters. And don't get me wrong, I loved that, it needs that, there _is_ a lot of exposition to get through (and I agree that that's probably the reason they released these two episodes at once). But I would've thought people would want it to get to the meat of the story faster.

The books go pretty fast too, there's a lot of information that's dumped onto Percy real quick in the beginning. He's very much just shoved into this world unprepared. I believe it's done that way in the books to keep kids attention. Camp Half blood isn't so much about taking care of demigods mentally, but rather to prepare them to fight monsters and go on quest. To be fair to Grover he's been ordered to lie to Percy and he doesn't want to keep doing it which is where his struggle comes from. He also ages differently than humans and demigods, being 24 in saytr years is still being a child.

Im hoping the details of why it has to be percy is explained in the next episode. It does however feel like you are expecting information that you have from the movies and are being confused by the what you are being given by the show.

Doesn't Grover say he doesn't want to lie to him ANYMORE? Isn't that what he actually says..? I think the reaction here involves a lot of overthinking and it doesn't have to...

I think lying to Percy is one thing, but not telling him that his Mum is alive seems a bit harsh even to Grover

@kendalldesouza4595

7 ай бұрын

That being they should not have told him.

with grover's age, yes he's 24, but the point is that saytrs age slower. so (at least by my understanding) he still has the maturity of a 12 yo (someone correct me if im wrong lmao this is just how ive always understood it)

@wintertrooper7918

7 ай бұрын

You're not wrong but because stairs age differently you can't say he has the 'maturity of a 12 yr old' because it's way too hard to really accurately equivalently age him but yeah he is basically the same age as percy and Annabeth in

@sail_inh

7 ай бұрын

@@wintertrooper7918 ya i guess i mean his brain has the development of a 12 yo

The commentary about gaslighting and Grover lying to Percy is a bit over-reacting. The very first voice-over of Percy explains it but not directly. He said "once you know what you are, they'll sense it too, and they'll come for you." It's the reason why his mom is trying her best to "gaslight" Percy, for his own safety as a child. Of course, when a demigod grows up, his scent becomes stronger, so the time will still come that he will need to go to the camp to be safer.

Any man who answers his wife's phone without permission, doesn't care to know where she is when she is in the apartment, and doesn't work when they live in New York is Trash.

Fun fact we don’t see it for many many books but Mr D is technically a therapist. God of madness and all….

@aidanhealey6640

7 ай бұрын

Some of the scenes in the later books where he fills this role are incredible. The pac-man scene comes to mind

@aceofspace14

7 ай бұрын

@@aidanhealey6640 scenes like that cemented him as my godly parent of choice. Though my propensity to order multiple different beverages at once is also part of it, need my apple juice and coffee in the morning lol

14:53 ms. Dotts is not a harpy (bird lady) she is a fury, a monster that works in the underworld. A harpy has bird wings with feathers. This woman had bat/devil wings with skin/scales.

"what kind of car is that" based on what little we saw, it looks to be a 70's-ish camaro, which seems to line up with the care that was used in the movie as well. - resident camaro fan who happens to watch reactions.

I don't know how Clarusse(?) hasn't spoiled the story to explain why things are the way they are yet. It's been irritating me I would have spilled everything to piss him off 😂😂😂

@ClarusPolaris

7 ай бұрын

Cuz I'm not a dick 🤷🏻‍♀️

30:30 All demigods are born with natural battle instincts. The training they receive is just to develop them. That is why Percy could handle the attack in the capture of the flag.

Its told halfbloods from the "big three(Zeus, Hades, Poseidon)" are not just rare, but technically by decree not supposed to happen as they are overwhelmingly powerful. Percy doesn't truly need to train to be formidable, however training will make him a nightmare against his enemies. Thats a bit of the underlying reason hes kept in the dark originally, a lot of the Gods and their underlings FEAR what Percy will become if he truly understands what he is.

Can we tell Mr Nerdy Nightly (sorry my first vid with you) that satyrs develop at half speed. Therefore, he is 12 in every manner except the physical number of years he has existed. His entire body takes twice as much time to develop.

To be fair, I think Chiron gives a far better explanation for Zeus getting to that conclusion in the book. He gives a complete rundown of the actual argument between Zeus and Poseidon and their overall rivalry and it also has Percy training for a bit before his claiming,I think. Which is why the first two episodes should’ve been at least 45 minutes long to build a strong fleshed out foundation. Now they’re going to have to sprinkle more info than they need to as we go along the quest to make up for it. I don’t think they’re going straight into the quest however. I do think there will be a bit of a training sequence beforehand.

Better than the movie? Can we pretend the 2010 adaptations never happened? Cause I remember reading PJO before I watched the films and got traumatized by the sheer disappointment. The Sea Of Monsters didn't fare any better. But this was totally worth the wait. It was exactly what we all needed in an adaptation.

@calebmcclure3893

7 ай бұрын

I've read the books, and i actually find the movie to be a much more entertaining/enjoyable adaptation than the new Disney series. The movie had a better portrayal of Gabe, better pacing, the capture the flag scene was better in the movie, the minotour and miss dodds looked better in the movie and the fight scene was better in the movie, one of the few things i can say the show did better than the movie was the relationship between percy and Luke

@randomness140

7 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@calebmcclure3893 Mind you abuse isn’t always physically but mentally. We’re only 2 episodes in. Throughout the book Gabe went to the media to make false statements and claims about Percy making people to believe he was a public threat and literally throughout the book Percy doesn’t understand why his mom is with Gabe but starts to put the pieces together toward the end and realize that she was abused. The movie’s version of capture the flag was definitely not better than the Disney+ version. For many reasons. No 1: The incorrect portrayal of Annabeth. Making Annabeth be on the opposing team during capture the flag and the one to attack Percy literally defeats the whole point of her being daughter of Athena the goddess of wisdom. Annabeth thinks and strategizes her plans quietly and doesn’t act on force as quickly. No. 2 The movie didn’t even have the claiming scene during capture the flag instead had Percy pick up a trident and all of a sudden knew his father was Poseidon. The reason as to why it’s fast paced is because we have so much to see for a show that only has 8 episodes. It makes more sense for them to rush the camp half blood scenes to make more room for the bigger stuff. You’re saying “more entertaining and enjoyable.” As if we don’t have 6 episodes left you haven’t even seen the whole show. And my guy you need to be for real because the CGI in this is way better than the movies 💀

@calebmcclure3893

7 ай бұрын

@@randomness140 Theres a scene in the movie where Gabe is being interviewed by a news reporter and talking trash about Percy. The movies version of capture the flag was indeed better than the disney version. In these first two episodes anabeth comes off as a very unlikeable character, just standing there watching percy take on 3 bullies with weapons all on his own. There was nothing strategic about leaving your team mate to fight a 3 v 1 fight aside from her own well being. Whereas in the movie it made sense as to why Anabeth was kinda mean to percy at first (because they were on opposing teams in capture the flag). You are correct in the movie not having percy be claimed. But the claiming scene we got in the disney show was so underwhelming and didn't feel impactful at all (The other campers didn't even kneel, and the trident above his head had some really bad CGI). The closest we get to the claiming scene in the movie is when anabeth beats up percy, and he hears voices in his head of poseidon telling him to go to the water in order to heal himself and give him strength. Which he does and is able to win the capture the flag game in a spectacular manner. 8, 40 minutes episodes will not be enough to do justice to the story and tell it the way it needs to be told, i can see the show suffering because of this restriction. And yes in fact, the CGI is much better on the movie than it is on the show, go back and watch the movie. It may have come out in 2010, but the CGI still holds up with movies that are released today (for reference the first Avatar came out in 2009 and has way better CGI than the disney show)

@randomness140

7 ай бұрын

@@calebmcclure3893 You lack comprehension skills and it seems like you didn’t even read the book. Annabeth doesn’t even come off as unlikable for one she isn’t even in the first episode physically and the first thing she says at the very end is “He must be the one.” Which is literally book accurate. You obviously didn’t read the books because Annabeth being the daughter of Athena knew that when the opportunity came Clarisse would go after Percy giving her team the advantage of winning Capture the flag which is why she used him as bait. And since you lack comprehension skills, might as well explain to you that Annabeth suspected that Percy was the son of Poseidon hence why she apologized then pushed him in the water to test her theory(which she was right) and she was literally present during the bathroom scene so she saw him use his abilities. A book reader would know that Annabeth and Percy bicker throughout the first book a lot but as they spend time together on their quest they start to grow to love each other and care for one another. I’m pretty sure that if the fight got intense she would’ve stepped in his defense but she knew he was okay, the kid beat the Minotaur not even a full day later and he’s a half-blood, aside from his water abilities, but the ADHD & Dyslexia really kicked in which helped in fight not in a way to win but in a way to defend himself. Also I’d rather have the claim scene with the trident appearing over his head but no campers bowing than the lazy, sloppy one in the movie where he just picks up a trident and goes “mY fAtHeR iS pOsEdiOn.” You can try and defend that disgrace of a movie with a rotten tomatoes score below 50% but it will never change the fact that the Disney+ series is already more faithful and much better with a score higher then 90%

@calebmcclure3893

7 ай бұрын

​@@randomness140 I've already mentioned above that i've read all the books. I'll be honest it was a long time ago (I read them when i was 12, i'm 25 now) so i don't exactly remember them word for word or all the little details, but i still remember the basic gist of the story. What does Anabeth saying "He must be the one" have to do with her being likeable? And so what if it s accurate to the book? You wanna know what you haven't talked about? the inaccuracies the disney show has to the book, like the lack of the hellhound attack during the capture the flag game, or Anabeth being black inside a blonde caucasian. Or how anabeth never pushed percy into the water in the book, he willingly walked in on his own. And in argument to you justifying her just watching percy fight alone in a 3 v 1 fight, you state that he’s a half blood with ADHD and dyslexia. Well guess what? So are clarrise and her 2 goons, and they have more training and experience in combat since they have been at camp much longer than percy. This is literally percys first sword fight going up against 3 people who are more skilled and experienced than he is and have better weapons, and anabeth just stands there and watches after using him as bait and not even telling him what’s going on. Not to mention that they never had any friendly interactions prior to this, which is why this version of anabath comes off as really unlikely to me (so far). At least in the book she had some friendly interactions with percy (she was the one who nursed him back to health after his fight with the minotaur) and even helped him when the hell hound attacked. And in the movie, everyone already knew percy was Poseidons son, you quoting 1 line from the movie where percy realises who his father is, doesn’t mean its the equivalent to the claiming scene. And FYI, i’m not sure if you know how rotten tomatoes works, but just because a movie has a high rotten tomatoes score, doesn’t mean its a good movie. Go look at sharknado’s rotten tomatoes score. And what's with this "You lack comprehension" diss? Can we not have a respectful debate without undermining each others comprehensive abilities.

the reason it feels rushed is because its the 1st season and clearly disney did not want to shovel out more money to it in case it fails like the movies

@luishp3

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, especially because they're filming with kids which means they can only shoot for half a day, which means more money.

FYI, there are post credit scenes or more like in between credit scene

I really think you guys need to rewatch the first minute of episode 1 again. The constant complaining that everyone lied to and gaslit Percy for no reason is annoying, the show literally opens with a monologue from Percy, taken from the book, where he says being a half blood is dangerous that the second you know what you are, the monsters will know too. He explains why Chiron, his mom and Grover have been lying to him, it was literally to keep him safe for longer. It’s also obvious with Ms. Dodds; she can’t see that the half blood is Percy until he “pushes” Nancy into the pool. She’s at the school because she knows there’s a half blood there but when he pushes Nancy she says to percy “there you are” because she’s been able to see that it’s him. Even the card game Grover plays with Percy is meant to teach him about the half blood world and help prepare him without giving anything away to him too early. It’s all very well done and I think you missed all the set up and then complained about it for the rest of the reaction.

@NerdyNightly

7 ай бұрын

I think the issue I have with how the show writes exposition is that while it is in the opening monologue, we never see when Percy learns that. Grover and his Mom never explain to Percy why they were lying to him, and so we don't see his moment of accepting their actions for what they needed to be. Just putting it in the monlogue means nothing until we as the audience see how finding that information out changes how Percy feels about the situation and the show didn't make room for that.

@crystalpritchard5065

7 ай бұрын

@@NerdyNightly I don’t know that the show didn’t make room for it, it’s only 2 episodes in. We as the audience don’t know how much Percy confided in his mom about what he was seeing and how he was feeling so we don’t know how big of a betrayal her lying, or keeping secrets, has been, and for most of the second episode Percy thinks she’s dead so can’t really confront her about whether she’s been lying to him. And Percy basically ignored Grover for most of episode 2 because he’s mad at him for lying and for what happened to his mother. The show may have Grover and Percy talk about everything more in episode 3 before they go on the quest. Mr. Brunner, Chiron, gets a pass I imagine because he’s an authority figure. The betrayal wouldn’t cut as deep as it did with Grover, his best friend, who again he basically ignored the whole the episode. Also, Grover decides he doesn’t want to lie to Percy anymore because he feels guilty, and now they don’t need to lie to save him, and you didn’t like that development either. That shows Grover changing, trying to make things right with Percy, I didn’t understand your complaint with that character development.

@NerdyNightly

7 ай бұрын

@@crystalpritchard5065 I'm fine with character development, but when you tell me a character has been lying to a child for a year, and his reason was cause these adults told him it was for Percy's safety. Now those same people are saying this is for Percy's safety and Grover disagrees with them. Why? Does Grover not trust them anymore? Where is the growth coming from? It's written purely as exposition, and I think the writers could have done more in the same amount of time if it was more character driven, and less just passing off information to the audience

@crystalpritchard5065

7 ай бұрын

@@NerdyNightly Grover grew up at Camp Half Blood, and in the world behind the mist, so he knows before he’s been assigned to protect Percy that when a demigod knows who they are, they attract monsters. He doesn’t lie to Percy about who Percy is because Chiron and Mr. D told him to, he lies because he knows it’s what’s safest for Percy. That scenario doesn’t exist when it comes to the lie about Percy’s mom being with Hades so it has nothing to do with losing trust in them.

The reason Clarisse knew about the Minotaur was because it had already spread around camp as a rumor

Her: that’s the way it happens Him: yeah, in the book, but…. THAT IS THE POINT

I agree there should be one more episode in camp where things get explained to Percy a little better. It seems like they're moving a lot faster than they need to considering they have a whole tv series to tell the story.

Non book reader here. For the introduction to a YA universe, this was pretty good. But I hope the story takes more bold and audacious moves as it progresses. This all felt very safe, borderline generic by moments, but it has a lot of potential, I'm definitely intrigued. And I've heard a lot of good about the books.

@calebmcclure3893

7 ай бұрын

Agreed, so far i'm finding the movie to be a much more enjoyable adaptation than the show

@puffpride8344

7 ай бұрын

It's MG, not YA.

To be fair, they have to worry about training, feeding, and searching for thousands of kids at once. Its not an easy job with so few people.

Okay I'm gonna try and not spoil the book as much as possible but here is my take on the first 2 episodes (as someone who reread the first book) mind you I might sort of repeat what other comments say: 1. The reason why the adults and even Grover kept the secret of him being a half blood to Percy all these years til now is the longer your identity of who your origin is, the safer you're gonna be so Percy finally being told and knowing his abilities from Poseidon now makes him a future target for monsters to hunt him down like the other kids in CHB. 2.Grover physically looks young and although he is 24 like he was in the books, he's still a young kid that is still learning to become the best protector that he can for Percy. And we even see throughout the 2 episodes how hard it is for him to keep these things from him and I love also we sort of got in episode 2 how Grover's character could be fleshed out throughout the season even though his scenes weren't actually in the first book. 3.The author Rick Riordan did help in producing and some of the writing of this show and him/crew are trying their best to keep the accuracy of books for fans like me and he even said in an interview that while he and other writers are trying to make these episodes the best as they can close to the story, he is adding some things to the show that tare gonna help flesh out the story more like Grover/Wood Nymph in ep.2 and I heard while Percy goes on the quest we might get some scenes going back and forth to CHB so it's not gonna be the last we see this camp(LOVED IT when I saw the pictures of it and they did a great job with the cabins) Yeah I get why a casual could be confused so far but you get a little more clarity as the series goes on and also at the end of the day it's a Disney+ show not a Game of Thrones HBO type where you see a crap ton of world building and character arcs all in one season (sort of but this series takes its time). So excited to see where this season goes and I heard there also planning out S.2 ideas as well based on the 2nd book so🤞🤞🤞

What is the point of arguing about whether elements of the story make sense when the story is from the book Nerdy? Is this a book review and a review of the book's plot, or are you reviewing the show here? It's really getting tiring how every show is Nerdy trying to find plot points that he thinks don't make sense. Particularly when a lot of the time it's just that he doesn't understand something. This is meant to be entertainment.

Virginia Kull is a talent we don’t deserve. That’s it. That’s the comment.

8:35 the books version heavily implied physical abuse and percy himself comes to that realisation at the end of book 1. I think we’ll get there

Wait you don’t see words jump around and are blurry like that? That’s exactly how words look when I am extremely tired or having panic attacks. Dyslexia is different to the individual and how that looked on screen is exactly how my brain sees words a lot of the time. It’s all one moving, fuzzy blurry mess.

As a massive fan of the books, I want this to be great. But, honestly, I'm just glad the author finally is getting what he wanted this adaptation to be. I still hold that an animated version would be easier and possibly a better medium for PJO adaptation

@hikari9262

7 ай бұрын

I agree with the animation, because they wouldn't be worrying about the age of the teen actors. But again, because of this live action, we got to have Walker as Percy.

@wintertrooper7918

7 ай бұрын

​@@hikari9262animation is the future and has way way more possibilities than live action

@TheNoviceOAO

7 ай бұрын

I agree

I lot of things have already been said before, but the show is really written for fans and doesn't hold your hand with the story or the pacing. Grover is 24 in human years, but Satyrs have a longer life span. He is mentally the same as Percy. Nobody knew that Percy was the child of Poseiden. They stated clearly that demigods are used by the Gods to do the things that they can't do, such as steal the bolt of Zues. And the big three (Zues, Poeseiden, Hades) all are not supposed to have any children because their children are not only powerful naturally even compared to the other demigods, but they change the world. All of that was a line here or there, but they didn't spell it out at all. The last time the big three had children, they started World War 2. So it's that big of a deal. Percy has shown flashy, such as being able to defeat the Minotaur or fight off Clarrise and the demigods of Ares, God of War. Percy just can't do it on command because he's untrained. So, unlike other super powered tales, demigods are born to be able to do the things that they can do. That was the montogue of Percy trying things, because they are just naturally born with advanced battle reflexes (ADHD as it was stated also) Everything happening quickly is part of the plot, it's by design, for the show and for the plot. So you are seeing it from Percy's perspective, he doesn't understand how any of this works and is just trying to figure it out. Annabeth knew that Clarisse would feel some type of way about the Glory Percy came into camp with, because none of them should be able to survive the Minotaur without training, let alone defeat it solo, in the rain, in the dark. They don't explain why, because we aren't supposed to know yet. But she's a great character being portrayed very well by Dior so far and she really gets the character, they all do. The Gods are supposed to be extra unspectacular. It's a subversion of expectations. Hence was Mr. D is lounging about. He's a kid that basically is grounded in his room and petulant about it all. Gods are also extremely petty and childish, despite their age. Ancient Greece is filled with stories of them backstabbing each other, etc. Including the Big Three subverting each other all of the time, especially Zues and Poseiden, as Poseiden is the eldest of the two and Zues has some serious envy issues with him. As for the last scene with Grover, he didn't tell Percy the truth about himself because of what they explained in the beginning. A demigod that is self-aware is like a homing beacon to all monsters around them at all times. A forbidden child of the Big Three is born to be legendary, i.e. Hercules. So powerful that more powerful monsters, like the Minotaur and the like, generally won't beat them without overwhelming numbers. As for the pacing and way that they are telling the story, they could do it the other way and spend more time on Percy and Sally, Camp Half-Blood, etc. The movie did that. And we, collectively and whole heartedly, did not like the movie's approach. Even though I think the actors in the movie did well. Dumbing and slowing it down to make it a more digestable version would not be true to the books, which is what this is. But I can also understand if you want them to show you all of those things, but that's not how it was in the book either. Percy basically gets to camp, feels lost, gets picked on by Clarisse (all demigods have a tragic backstory and Percy's isn't the only sad one), participates in capture the flag as an untrained kid, survives and then suddenly fights amazingly well and easily defeats all of the enemies around him, showcasing the power of a forbidden child demigod.

"What makes you think [Medusa] was a monster" She... was? The Romans created the version of Medusa as a victim. The Gorgon was always a monster in the Greek version.

@wintertrooper7918

7 ай бұрын

Really she was always a victim according to PJO lore poseidon seduced her

@MasterZeus94

7 ай бұрын

@@wintertrooper7918 Yes, Riordan used the Roman version of the myth for some reason.

@wintertrooper7918

7 ай бұрын

@@MasterZeus94 a lot of the myths he used are either the more generalized versions, the ones thar tend to paint the gods in a less flattering yet not outright fucked light and things like that

I grew up with the books and am loving the show so far. My only real complaint so far with this adaptation is the pacing. I think if each episode was just 5-10 minutes longer they could fit in just a little bit of vital context, cut a little of the excess exposition, and do a little more showing rather than telling. There are also a few small changes from the books with regards to specific details and the order of events that might raise a few eyebrows for long-time fans and confuse new fans regarding the logic of the setting. Otherwise, though, they've nailed it. The performances, characterisation, and world design are all on point, the effects are good, and the show has a strong emotional centre with scenes like Percy burning the blue sweets and "talking" to his Mum. I'd take this over the movies any day of the week.

Clariissa is every ounce her father's progeny.

@wintertrooper7918

7 ай бұрын

Which sucks for her because she's a girl meaning Ares looks down on her more critically than her brothers would be

Grover lied because once Percy knows about the monsters they can smell him more easily and attack him

Oh boy this reaction was painfull to watch...

Nice reaction, I really liked it. Just wanted to make a couple of notes: Grover being 24 doesn't make him an adult since he's another "immortal" species. You think that a 1 year old dog is an adult, a human being certainly not. Think in terms of immortality and Grover is probably just a little satyr who has more experience than Percy but emotionally he's a child, not a grown man. The other point is the indifference that adults seem to have towards Percy's mother, even in this case we must think that these are deities and immortal creatures who every day are seen bringing with them young demigods who have been given hunting. Consider that these immortal beings consider human beings inferior, the important thing is to save the demigod kids because they are children of the divinities and that many of those kids don't make it to the camp because they die first. Everyone seems insensitive to the drama because they are placed on a different level as they are immortal. The only thing that matters to them is that Percy as a demigod survived, which is great since the Minotaur was terrible. For them Sally Jackson was "just" an inferior creature who lives less than 100 years, the fact that she died earlier than expected to save her son is normal for them. They have a scale of values and a concept of time that is totally different from ours.

Gods are Forbidden from directly stealing each others weapons, so Zeus believed Posiden stole the master bolt but didn't know how. But as choin said half-bloodes can break thoe rules hence why gods send their child ren on quests, so when Pisoden claim Perscy, Zeus when ahh that how he stole it.

Awesome video ‼️💯 Luke and the other cabin 11/hermes cabin also show what it’s like to have ADHD , Annabeth just speaking out her thoughts impulsively and Percy being both bored and distracted during capture the flag are all signs of ADHD which the film didn’t show any of it. So the show is showing people more of the ADHD and how it impacts people. Also the show follows the book 💯 check your book bumpy the end of the episode 2 it is up to chapter 9. So at the end Percy needs motivation and stubbornness to do the quest which is another aspect of ADHD that people with ADHD need motivation to do tasks.

"the adults are yelling at me and insisting I fix their problems and sacrifice myself to the underworld" -Percy ..."This is your 'quest' Percy 😇, stop complaining I'll just be here sitting on my horse-butt. ta ta 👋" *Chiron not showing an ounce of concern*

What I'm about to say IS NOT a spoiler because they say this in the beginning when Percy is narrating. Why aren't you explaining to him that grover HAD to lie to him until they got to camp, because KNOWING WHAT HE IS makes him a beacon to all monsters in the area. But now that he is in the camp, there's no reason to lie anymore.

The adults in camp half blood( which is only Chiron and Mr. D) have lived very long and the gods don’t care for mortal life Chiron has probably care more but it is still hard for them to grieve or care about mortal life, and actually the point is that the Gods and authority figures in Greek mythology don’t care enough (it’s is what the whole series is about and is wrapped up in the last book) and also in Zeus’s pov he thinks the only people who would ever want to overthrow him are his brothers and if Poseidon knows he didn’t do it the “only” other explanation is that it has to be hades

@Gradestar10

7 ай бұрын

In th 1' book chiron tells percy that zeus doesn't trust poseidon since th latter tried to dethrone him in mythological times, but in 'pj n th greek gods' hera, apollo n athena also participated in that attack on zeus' throne, so it would make sense for him to also doubt his wife n his kids, not only hades who never did nothing against zeus, on the contrary, he agreed to share w/ him th kronos' kingdom which would have belonged to him entirely as th firstborn son

Percy never WITNESSED Gabe physically abuse his mother. Percy only got to see the gross more pathetic side of Gabe. We also haven't gotten to the part where Gabe accuses Percy of kidnapping his mother on the news

I know it feels rushed but the story is supposed to be from Percy’s point of view so the feeling of everything being rushed it what Percy felt and in the book he is kinda pushed head first in and since the story in in his pov so are we (Gabe is worse but again science we see the world through Percy’s eyes it seems but but I think when Percy realizes we will)

Me and my son watched and said the same thing about it going a little too fast.

aren't all half-bloods have battle instinct programmed in them? and it is usually misunderstood as ADHD?

1) I have to agree with Nerdy on Gabe. He is VERY sanitized and his movie version was actually closer to the book that this guy 2) Satyrs actually age much slower than humans so he is supposed to play the very age he is, which might be very confusing for people who haven't read the book as for some reason they don't explain it in the show. I think the show would have benefited from not mentioning his "real" age at all, as this is just confusing for no reason 3) And the last thing is that Dionysus and Chiron don't want to tell Percy about his Mom because then he won't focus on his actual mission, but on saving his mother instead (imo fair)

its also only 8 episodes they are rushed by disney and they didnt know that he was poseidons son so originally what they thought was that he was going to be just another half blood who would stay there until they found out he was forbidden kid and more specifically being poseidons son

You make a good point about the grownups talking to Percy about his mom. The leadership is so flawed lol.

@wintertrooper7918

7 ай бұрын

What grown ups? It's rare for many demigods to reach adulthood and most adult satyrs have other jobs