One of the most beautiful retro designs I've seen, ever!

@nebulous962

Жыл бұрын

agreed

@joez4445

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree if it ever comes out then I’ll definitely be on my dream car list

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

I really hope this thing comes out like this, and it's affordable. Completely pointless if this thing costs >100k

@tori8098

Жыл бұрын

absolutely stunning and perfect in so many ways

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

@@loudelement doubt

The 1974 Hyundai Pony Coupe was designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro. When Hyundai chose not to build it, Giugiaro modified the Pony design to create the Delorean. Pretty interesting that Hyundai had a shot at that iconic styling from the beginning of the company. Also, the wheels on this 74 concept are turbofan type wheels. Race cars in the 70s and 80s had them. They draw air in as they spin. They're heavy, so they fell out of favor, but they match the retro style perfectly.

@placeholder2924

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad someone else understands this. So many people keep talking about the DeLorean but don't even take note of what the 74 means in the N Vision 74 name.

@patricklinkous

Жыл бұрын

@@placeholder2924 Hyundai talked extensively about it in the presentation, but it didn't make the headlines.

@KGil60

Жыл бұрын

The turbo wheels actually pull air out instead of pulling air in. This is so there is no excess pressure in the wheel wells.

@patricklinkous

Жыл бұрын

@@KGil60 Good point, excess pressure in the wheel wells would be very bad at speed. 👍

@worrel8121

Жыл бұрын

i grew up riding pony coupe. Have pictures of my parents taking our family to trip and I remember being in one a child.

Korean dude here, It's quite fun to see Marques correcting David's pronunciation of Hyundai at 6:29 cuz the way David pronunciated it was much more closer(almost identical) to how native Koreans say Hyundai. But since majority of English speakers(including Hyundai ads in US itself) pronounce Hyundai like Sunday, even I sometimes get confused about the right way of pronunciating Hyundai in English LOL. Guess it's just a trivial issue and whichever way is fine. the fact that matters is that Hyundai is doing quite well of being a cool car manufacturer, overcoming the brand's dull image it once had in the global market. So thrilling to see brand's image evolving through time as a car fan and also as Korean.

@boukm3n

Жыл бұрын

Big facts Marques actually mispronounced the name

@user-hw4st7br9a

Жыл бұрын

Hyondae.. Right? the "ae" is pronounced as a short stop "eh" sound.

@user-co4qw1lt5b

Жыл бұрын

yup! little more precisely, 'hyun' part is pronunciated like 'tion' in 'nation' with H instead of T or Sean with H instead of S

@Slay1337pl

Жыл бұрын

I believe they addressed this in a prior episode. They say 'hunday' instead of 'hyun-dai', because american marketing materials pronounce it as 'hunday'

@3811eric

Жыл бұрын

Agree.. Just listen to what Brits and Europeans pronounce Hyundai; we need David to correct their pronunciation properly. lol

I bought an IONIQ 5 back in March and have loved it so far. My wife and I have already put almost 13k miles on it and have not had any issues. Still looks as cool as day one.

@jihongkim5270

Жыл бұрын

The other say i saw one of them behind me under this big highway overpass, and thought 'damn, those lights look cool'

@jacobcolon5295

Жыл бұрын

@@jihongkim5270 agreed! quite the looker, I like it more than the EV6 as well

@laxmansaravanakumar8480

Жыл бұрын

@@Schubert_Standchen is he a mechanical engineer with more experience and knowledge that hyundai's entire team of engineers? probably not.

@JulyOverland

Жыл бұрын

definitely a head turner, one of my neighbors got one in white and drives by my house almost daily and gets me every time

So interesting fact - the guy that designed DeLorean is named Giorgetto Giugiaro, he also designed similar looking car for Hyundai in 1974 :) So it’s not really based on DeLorean it’s based on that Hyundai car.

@user-kt4zz9jn3t

Жыл бұрын

Hyundai Pony Coupe was designed earlier than DeLorean.

@jrendon137

Жыл бұрын

@@user-kt4zz9jn3t I think they said they didn’t use it so the guy took the design to make delorean

Hyundai/Kia/Genesis is not just doing design well, they are also doing well at engineering and efficiency compared to many other legacy automakers.

@JeraldOsborn

Жыл бұрын

No the are not reliable at all.

@masterxeon1001

Жыл бұрын

@@JeraldOsborn a genesis is unreliable?

@jobananas3052

Жыл бұрын

Them new KIAs look dope asf for a low end car.

@xXYannuschXx

Жыл бұрын

@@JeraldOsborn The statistics say otherwise.

@ilililili1i1il40

Жыл бұрын

Will Hyundai/Genesis overwhelm Toyota/Lexus in the EV era?

Hyundai's design has been popping off since last year, their design really spells future

Their design department is the best rn. There is simply no competition.

@masterxeon1001

Жыл бұрын

kia. kia is also on fire.

@AtillatheFun

Жыл бұрын

@@masterxeon1001 yeah they are fire too. I just saw that Hyundai also sells a futuristic van. You should check it out. It looks awesome.

The wheels look like an homage to turbofan wheels from classic rally cars. While the ones on the Hyundai N74 probably don't have cooling you can actually have wheels with the same design that provide extra cooling than a regular wheel

My next car definitely going to be an EV. Hope Hyundai makes the N 74 tho.

@Arcx_zero

Жыл бұрын

Welp, prophecy concept is now released as ioniq 6 so there might a chance this gonna be release too, i think it will be named ioniq 10 or something like that

@Bobbyeverything2000

Жыл бұрын

I really do hope they make it a real thing. But it'll cost a lot, so I doubt 99.9% of us will be able to purchase it regardless + if they do make it, I'd assume it will be limited in production to something under 1000 vehicles or something like that

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

@@Arcx_zero I think the ioniq6 looks like ass tbh.

@myturn926

Жыл бұрын

@@Bobbyeverything2000 bingo

As someone who works for Hyundai, it’s exciting to see us get this kinda love :)

@jebus456

Жыл бұрын

Would you be able to provide more info on the 'hybrid H/EV' system? I'm super curious to know how that works exactly.

@sunni96

Жыл бұрын

Except you didn’t design the car

As a fan of Hyundai, I'm so glad Hyundai has caught the attention of Marques!

@mndlessdrwer

Жыл бұрын

Hyundai really took off for me in 2009 with the 6th gen Sonata. I still prefer their design of the 6th gen over even modern Sonatas because it was just so incredibly cohesive. Everything about the design flowed into the next element. The interior took cues from the exterior and all of the panels looked purposeful and custom made for that car, specifically. They've lost some of that design ideology with many of their newer vehicles, so I do hope that they can recapture it. Their latest Elantra, for example, looks absolutely stunning. They've masterfully blended their headlight and grille design and all of the angles on the various body panels give the car a low and lean look, almost aggressive without looking outright angry. It's a beautiful car. Unfortunately, I'm a bit prejudiced against FWD cars now that I've owned RWD and AWD, so it isn't something I'm considering for myself. But man do I hope they take similar styling decisions with the rest of their lineup moving forward because that one's a banger.

@PK-eo8kp

Жыл бұрын

Hyundai fans 💯

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

Why tho, what is Marques gonna do knowing that the thing exists other than talking about it?

Hyundai has basically woken up and everyone's taking notice. I drive one of their cars, not an EV unfortunately. Just glad they're finally getting the shine they deserve.

Hyundai used to be really dorky - but now they are making really cool cars.

@3811eric

Жыл бұрын

110% Agree.

Hyundai Motor Group has been killing it for years now. Telluride and Palisade are top selling 3 rows. No surprise tech powerhouse Korea is 'glowing up' the more tech heavy cars become.

Some notes: * Toyota and Honda ARE working on their electric lineup too, but Hyundai had the good busines sense to go all-in on electric earlier, thus, they have a huge head start right now over many (if not most) other manufacturers (excepting Tesla, obviously). Marques was right when he said this is a major opportunity for Hyundai to hugely impact their rmarketshare and perception as we move into an electric future. * The Ionic 5 N, Kia EV 6 GT, and Ionic 6 are all arriving in 2023. (No specific dates, but my guess is that the 5 N and 6 GT arrive sometime before summer, and the 6 arrives sometime after the summer) * The RN22e is essentially the Ionic 6 N and will arrive in the near future. (My guess is sometime in 2024 considering their established release schedule history) I honestly think they are pretty close to the final design with the concept. Here's hoping anyways. * The Vision 74 is being billed as a mid-to-far future concept car by Hyundai themselves. I'm almost positive they do build something like this, considering the universally emphatic reception its reveal has garnered, and they've been getting much more serious with their performance intentions (as seen in their N division and GT offerings), plus it all makes sense when you look at their strategic approach to electric and performance. With the Hyundai, Kia, and Genesis nameplates, they will have offerings that appeal to almost every demographic from the mainstream to the higher end buyers, and now performance-minded buyers too. Oh, and they're also working on a $20K EV too.

Hyundai and Kia offer the most value EV without a doubt... Good range, well equipped, best warranty... absolutely the wisest buy if you're looking to buy an EV.

@sebastianorye2702

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but it depends on how long you plan to have it. If we are talking about 4 years, then yes, but if we are talking about more than that, then not. No self-driving hardware and cameras in the car, will make it worthless when software goes widespread.

@hurryingman9071

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianorye2702 As opposed to which car?

@sebastianorye2702

Жыл бұрын

@@hurryingman9071 I think that's quite obvious. The leader of the industry, with the same CEO as the leader of the aerospace industry.

@neruwu

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianorye2702 that's just preference tho. I don't want anything with self driving tech and tbh I don't care much about cameras either. I enjoy driving cars and I wanna drive them myself, not the fekkin autopilot. Edit: and don't even get me started on Tesla they are introducing and normalising microtransactions into the car industry. I'd never ever financially support shit like that

@DuckDuckGeeseMusic

Жыл бұрын

Software is lacking, compared to tesla.

I think Hyundai is going to have a big advantage in the EV space over many manufacturers here in the US. They've had the experience in more technological areas and it is clear that has become a big focus for them in their product lines. With the recent acquisitions of Boston Dynamics as another example, they are really executing and positioned for success in that space.

Hyundai is killing it! It’s very interesting what they are doing

@-SP.

Жыл бұрын

Yeah like using child labor at their Alabama plant

The design is actually a throwback to Hyundai's first ever car called "Pony" - it was not a good car by any means, but that is where they started. oh. and the Pony concept in 1974 was designed by legendary car designer Giorgetto Giugiaro. who happened to also design the DeLorean along with many of the 70s 80s cars that look really cool.

N vision 74 is now on test drive in their proving ground. (With Kia stinger chassis before, now they finally made it's distinctive exterior design.)

My god that design is fucking beautiful! It reminds of when other car companies show modernized electric versions of their classic cars and it’s just a concept. Freaking release these things man!!!

I think all cars that use hydrogen fuel cells have to have a battery (or a capacitor?) because the amount of power over time a fuel cell can release isn't enough for a reasonable acceleration rate. So, the fuel cell charges the battery or, possibly, powers the motor directly when traveling at a steady speed.

@kinqandi

Жыл бұрын

Also you need the battery to start off since a fuel cell cannot do that

@Neojhun

Жыл бұрын

Most FCev cars are about just under 2kwh battery as the buffer. But N74 is using the Plug In Hybrid model with a much larger battery enough for commuting range. A bigger battery also allows for more powerful peak performance.

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the fuel cell charges the battery and it supplies the motors.

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

@@Neojhun Aren't Plug in Hybrids always partially BEV?

@mcslender2965

Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-dj7fh sort of, if I understand correctly Huyndai replace the gas engine of typical PHEVs with the hydrogen system

The best part is that Hyundai sticks to their concepts more than any other car manufacture

Beginning of this year we purchased a >50 mpg elantra hybrid and love it. Absolutely can't wait for Ioniq 6 and hopefully a Santa Cruz hybrid/electric!

The way David pronounces Hyundai at 6:30 is actually pretty close to how Hyundai is pronounced in Korea. Thought I'd mention it since Marques corrects David's pronunciation to "Hunday" (which to be fair, is how Hyundai pronounces its name in English speaking countries)

It is totally SICK, OMG. I have a Hyundai and its 8 years now but i love it, now i see this young company coming from a little country thrashing or atleast messing with the big guns. WAY TO GO HYUNDAI, LOVE YOU

The idea about Hydrogen hybrid is so sick. I believe they're trying to find a sweet spot for combining two high tech. It is like this: Hydrogen (lighter and longer range) + Electric (charging easier access and established tech). This maybe possible because Hyundai successfully manufactures the Hydrogen car "Nexo" and Electric "Ioniq5/GV60/EV6". Kudos Hyndai team. Keep it up.

@a-don13

Жыл бұрын

technically the term "hydrogen hybrid" makes no sense. it's just a hydrogen car with a charge port, everything else is the same.

@sebastianorye2702

Жыл бұрын

Hydrogen is pointless. Yes, you can get a higher range in less weight, but what's the point of switching? It's worse for the Environment than BEVs, it eliminates the home charging selling point of EVs, but yes, for those off chances that you are on a road trip, you'll be driving a cleaner traditional car with a engine and everything.

@sebastianorye2702

Жыл бұрын

@@CarlosZ34NSM well, luckily, Tesla has phased out cobalt in their batteries, and so have many others. Anyway, mining lithium and nickel doesn't have to be as polluting as it is. The equipment just needs to be electrified, and luckily that's the case with Tesla pushing their suppliers to do it. The only damage after that is the visual damage of an open pit mine, but generally, these are located in desert-like Environments where it won't make much of a difference. Anyway, this is just a short-term thing, as in the long term, all batteries will be built using only recycled materials, as it's the cheapest to do.

In racing, it is impossible to charge battery or replace them in a short time, but hybrid car can charge hydrogen really fast. Also, it can go to more distance than pure electric car.

@dac33nr58

Жыл бұрын

Also less weight

@shinikyokai8815

Жыл бұрын

You're gonna have to go more distance if you want to make it to the nearest hydrogen refueling station.

@eloq7080

Жыл бұрын

@@shinikyokai8815 I mean at least in korea we got a ton of hydrogen refueling stations so that ain't a problem for us

@shinikyokai8815

Жыл бұрын

@@eloq7080 Huh? Aren’t there only less than 40 H2 stations in Korea currently?

@callumparker3293

Жыл бұрын

@@shinikyokai8815 Korea is a pretty small country tho, so 40 is enough

N vision 74 utilizes batteries when instantaneous high power is required. And since it requires less power than expected when driving at cruising speed, it is converted to a hydrogen powertrain. So it generates much less heat than traditional electric vehicles, and the fast hydrogen refueling allows you to race on the racing track. In fact, it was tested for a long time in Korea, and the battery and hydrogen power train were built into the body of the Kia Stinger and tested.

@carloscervantes836

Жыл бұрын

I understand what you are saying and hope to see the car either way. I’m still on team full electric given battery tech keeps improving, it would add complexity/take up more space, and you still need infrastructure to support it. The extra energy demand given the conversions involved would also waste more energy vs just full electric… also a noticeable negative BTW.

David! BIG Kudos for pronouncing Hyundai, Hyundai! I know it's hard for people who don't speak Korean but you NAILED it.

@dohmygoodness

Жыл бұрын

Okay yes, Marques, you're right. they did run Hyundai like Sundae campaign to make it easier to pronounce for the rest of the world. But it's David's pronunciation is closer to the original name! :p

The Audi 90 GTO had similarly designed wheels and they had no issues with cooling the brakes while racing. Could be done for sure. I love what Hyundai are doing now

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

Sportscars Brake cooling is done from the axle anyway, they don't need air coming from the outside.

Fuel cell vehicles have always had a large battery which is charged by the fuel cell and used to drive the wheels, mainly at low speeds. Nothing new here but it will be a step forward in the evolution of the tech.

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

FCEV's don't really have large batteries compared to basic BEV's

Hyundai-Kia alliance i.e. HATC deserves all the attention in the automotive world right now. They've turned their fortunes since redesigning the 2012 Kia Optima after they roped in Audi's designer (Pete Schreyer) & then later BMW's chassis guy Albert Biermann.. they are the force to reckon with. People need to stop shitting on them & give them the respect they deserve!

@mahaloaloha6819

Жыл бұрын

Well said~ 1000% agree with you.

Yup, Hyundai came a long way, and finally, they are bulging their muscles now.. I can't wait for the next 5 years what Ioniqs and Hyundais will bring!

On the wheels - F1 cars use the same design concept and actually the smaller vents create an outward vacuum and most cooling comes from under the car and the wheels suck the cool air from underneath and pushes out hot air. They're the best wheels for "ground-effect" aero cars.

Rn22e is a rolling lab. It’s a real car used in Track in Hyundai Track or racing

Those type of wheels are called Turbofan, they do cool the brakes.(but i dont know if the N74 ones are functional)

@abductedagain

Жыл бұрын

Rotiform makes them now as aerodiscs. And yes they are functional!

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

I thought they were mainly for aerodynamics to reduce drag.

@JxcksonSF

Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-dj7fh im not sure but looking at how it works it prob generate more turbulence, maybe a little of downforce too, since it pump air from underneat the car.

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

@@JxcksonSF i don't think the wheels are there to do any downforce, that's why wings, diffusors and splitters are there.

@JxcksonSF

Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-dj7fh i didnt say it was there to make down force, i said the byproduct of using it i could be a bit of downforce.

David's Pronunciation of Hyundai is spot on! I was just thinking how well he was saying "Hyundai" and then Marques corrects him......Sorry Marques... David is correct.

They had a demo day in Germany like a month ago, I'm confident if you asked for an invite you would've test driven both of them, with your high status on YT, maybe they will bring it to states someday. It's not a rendering but a working model, it's simply amazing!

On the 20.000$ EV front, we’ve got one, the VW e-Up it’s not groundbreaking in range or anything but for the usual commute and even longer drives with chargingstops (up to 400km, i know thats less than the range of mid tu opper range evs.) it works. For the rest you have to take some other means of transportation. But they exist and if you know your driving stile and the limitations it is great.

I still can’t bring myself to get one just yet. I don’t care what nobody say, brand recognition is a thing! With that said, their design department is killing it right now. Other high end manufacturers need to take note! If not, people like me will make the jump!

mechanic here... car probably uses aerodynamic features and ducting like most modern race cars employ to cool the brakes... and flat caps with slits like that can take advantage of physics sticking out into the air-stream to act like a fan to funnel air into the inside of the rim. can also be done in reverse to evac the brake area.

What I love about the Hyundai cars on their new electric platform, is the double bang-for-the-buck in terms of what car designs we get. Hell, even triple bang. Because with the Ionic cars, we also get Kia versions. And we also get Genesis versions for the luxury market. That Kia EV6 looks nice I have to say. Its different enough from the Ionic 5 but you can tell they're the same exact car, but different bodies. So, every time Hyundai shows something, I also wanna see the Kia version and the Genesis version! Like that Ionic 6 looks super nice but what will the Kia model look like?? (I'm not a SUV/Crossover fan, so when I see a sedan like the Ionic 6, it piques my interest!) But hell yes, the Vision 74 looks SICK. As for the powertrain, I assume it works like the Toyota Mirai, hydrogen fuel cell, its a hydrogen "motor" that generates electricity, stores it in a battery, and the battery operates the electric motors. I wish hydrogen got a bigger push from the automotive manufacturers so we could have it more "normal" as an different option for a clean car in addition to plug-in EVs. But sadly hydrogen distribution infrastructure SUCKS in the US. People who own the Mirai can only drive it around California, and its hard to find fill-up stations.

@HanYou2

Жыл бұрын

Hydrogen is troublesome, batteries will always be one step ahead. It will find its use in long-haul trucks and energy storage maybe.

Brakes on the render, It should be enough ventilation. If you look at current F1 cars, the rims are almost shut because part of the stopping power is from the regen brakes, making traditional brake disc to not heat up as much

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

Cars brakes are usually cooled from the inside, if they need it that is. Like if you look at the "shoppe" parts from SavageGeese' videos when they look at sportier cars you see ducts directing air from below the car to the brakes. The Turbofuns (is I think what the wheel caps are called) are more an aero thing. Which I highly assume is how the F1 does it as well. And performance cars actually require some heat to perform properly. In case you didn't know.

Kia and Hyundai are partners, hence why they’re both going through a similar shift

@mystery-z

Жыл бұрын

*Hyundai used to own a majority stake in Kia

Since we haven't seen those design in more than 2 decades it really refreshing. Those boxy design from 80s car design.

As a Korean, I must say that the way David pronounces "Hyundai" is correct.

Way more chemistry here...had to say it 😁

@WarrenWeekly

Жыл бұрын

I thought the exact same thing

@Schubert_Standchen

Жыл бұрын

Yes (forgive me other guy 🙏)

This car is real, not just rendering. Hyundai calls it "rolling lab".

It's interesting, David was actually pronouncing Hyundai how it's said in Korea, when I was there. I didn't realise the US pronunciation is like "Sunday". In the UK the official ads pronounce it "HI-UN-DIE" funny the 'localisation' of brand names.

Hyundai, Kia, and Genesis are all under the Hyundai Motor Group. The Hyundai Motor Group is on a mission to innovate.

Been driving Hyundai exclusively for the last decade and each car has been amazing. They’ll definitely be the first car brand I buy an EV from.

I've got an 2021 i30 and I absolutely looove it. I got it just because it had a really good features/quality/price ratio and I was really surprised how good it turned out to be. And I'm paying only 250$/month for it ;) Cheers!

@jinkike

Жыл бұрын

wait seriously im paying like 505 a month for my 2019 veloster N with the performance pack are things different where you live since you have a i30 oh wait is it a i30n or just a i30 ?

@doniscoming

Жыл бұрын

@@jinkike regular i30 😉 i needed the wagon version cause I've got 2 kids 😉 And I live in Poland and actually got sweet lease deal from bank cause they deduct tax from it or sth like that.

@jinkike

Жыл бұрын

Ooooh ok that makes more sense wait there's a wagon version of the i30 that sounds sick I wish they would bring back wagons here in the states

There are huge air scoops for brake and rear motor ventilation right behind the doors?

Luc Donckerwolke from VW group (Audi, Bentley, Seat) is the head designer at Hyundai. You don't need vents in the wheels for brakes.

David was pronouncing Hyundai actually correctly in the beginning of the clip 😀

@sushi_donut

Жыл бұрын

I heard that too! lol, gotta pick your battles when you're with your boss, I guess.

@nth7273

Жыл бұрын

Yeah in Korean. But I think in their American commercials they use the "like Sunday" pronunciation. I prefer the Korean, but most English speakers get it badly wrong lol.

6:33 Marques, No! David 6:30 was correct!

@immanueliggi

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. He's so confidently wrong.

@sweatyalpaca

Жыл бұрын

@@immanueliggi confidently wrong lolol

I just like listening to the waeeeave form podcast then watching the videos because all the visuals that they try to explain become so much more understood

Saw this in person at the Toronto auto show today. Looks amazing I hope they make it

Yes that’s enough ventilation to push out the air it will suck the air through the vents on the side to cool the motors . electrical Komatsu haul tracks have a similar design

One advantage that Hyundai and Kia have is that all of their parts including batteries are all made in South Korea.

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

I can't imagine that they get most of their parts from Korea.

@johnnybaum7957

Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-dj7fh Go do some research. Not that hard to find out buddy.

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnybaum7957 too lazy to research something this irrelevant tbh.

@0xD1CE

Жыл бұрын

Too bad Biden passed a bill that requires car manufacturers to produce something like around 60% of the parts in the U.S in order to sell them here without heavy tax penalties.

If you look at the wheel cover as a sort of centrifugal pump cover, you may actually end up with more airflow over the brakes. I would imagine they've probably run simulations, which would be super cool to see

It's a series hybrid but they use a 85kW hydrogen fuel cell system instead of a small engine to charge the battery.

It actually exists and it should be drivable since Hyundai calls it "Rolling lab". Definitely not a production car though.

I'm with you about what Toyota has dropped so far with the BZ4x. For me it shares the ugly factor like the Hummer and that horrendous looking cybertruck crap musk claims to be building.

6:03 if those are like old school turbofan wheels like on the old BMW/ Porsche race cars Audi Rally cars, then it’s a for ventilation and aerodynamics.

Waweform Clips : Hyundai Pony Coupe was designed in 1974 by and Italian designer Goigetto Giugiaro (from Italdesign that also did some Ferraris and Lamborghinis) to be conceptually timeless but never saw mass production. He later went to America to DMC and designed an ITERATION of Hynudai Pony Coupe in 1982 called DeLorean. So Hyundai N Vision 74 is their own design.

Simple answer, yes. Hyundai + Kia rocks! 800 volt system with 7 year warranty

I don't know if I'd consider it a super new design. It's heavily based on the 1974 Hyundai Pony Coupe concept which was designed by Giugiaro. Who'd use the same "folding paper" design language for the DeLorean later on. Which is why it looks so much like the DMC12.

@joec.5009

Жыл бұрын

agreed, but this is the best rendition of the 'future retro' ever existed in my opinion. Not only it is inspired by Giugiaro, but it also marries that 80's japanese vibe. It's perfection.

MK, check out Rotiforms. If you like the aerodisks, you can get them and skin them however you want. Rotiform has templates. Also, they’re pretty effective at cooling depending on the angle of the vanes.

Dude! This guy on the left is probably the first foreign, as in non-Korean, "journalist" that has pronounced the "hyun" part of the name correctly. Kudos!

@sharkracer

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Oh, and I just saw Marques correct him incorrectly. Doh!

This design is absolutely crushing it 💯💯💯 just worried about the hydrogen fuel cell implementation considering it isn't cheap and not the most convenient to get 😕

Hyundai top of my list now, even over Tesla. Getting that Ioniq 5.

10:38 im not sure, correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure Honda was the first to idealize Hydrogen Fuel cell with their FCX Clarity 2008 was it ? then everything gone quiet. I think the problem was its hard to figure out to downsize or hold the volume of the hydrogen before it being poured into the car. something like that.

they actually have a working proto of the n74 and it is now a dream car of mine XD

Every Hydrogen Car is an "EV hybrid". A Hydrogen car has just a smaller battery than an EV that is constantly charged by the Fuelcell. So by "EV Hybrid" they probably mean that they added a charging port.

@mdjey2

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Pluggin hybrid.

Idk why, but the American pronunciation of Hyundai like "Hunday" is always funny to me.

@JxcksonSF

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Speak fast enough and you hear Honda 😂 Here in Brasil we call "Hiundai"

@mlkwy

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david nailed the pronounciation though

@sourcastic

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@@JxcksonSF Same here in Pakistan

Honestly in love with Hyundai and think Korea has finally broken out as a fashion capital of the world like the French and Americans

Hyundai is what Honda/Acura used to be 20-25 years ago. They are coming out swinging, they are fearless, willing to take risks, they do not care who their competitors are and they are DARING the competition to beat them in :design, tech, features, and HP. I am a Honda/Acura/Lexus fan ALL day, but Hyundai has that drive and determination and I am here for it 👏👏

I appreciate you trying to pronounce Hyundai’s name correctly!

For full EVs, the two biggest downsides, besides the thing about how "dirty" the batteries are to make, are the length of time required to charge the EV, and the size and resulting weight of the battery pack needed to have any kind of reasonable range. That's why most EVs these days are around 2000 kgs, if not more, the battery weight is the killer. Hydrogen fuel cells will allow you to have a much smaller battery, and a shorter "charge" time, because you won't be charging electricity like other EVs, rather, you will fill up with hydrogen, which is generally much faster than charging the battery, and then the fuel cell stack will convert the hydrogen into electricity as needed and charge the much smaller battery. So you'd end up with a much lighter car that still is EV, and it also charges faster than a normal EV. The problem is the expensive hydrogen filling station infrastructure, as well as the fact that producing H2 is not cheap with current tech. Once these two problems are solved, fuel cell hybrids have the potential to really go head to head with EVs.

@Mikivli

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I’m excited we’re finally having some innovation in the car space and even in aerospace scene. It’s time in auto cause big oil has made most consumers think it’s okay to milk us for 50+ years and only want to change when they see a worthy competitor aka Tesla

@waynelewis9110

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Hydrogen will not go “head to head” with BEVs, especially after solid state batteries and even further innovations with Li-ion batteries take hold, it’s game over for hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. They can’t even compete with BEVs that have current battery tech. The Toyota Mirai is literally *nothing* compared to the likes of the Model 3, IONIQ 5, NIO ET5 etc. Hydrogen fuel cells create a network of inefficiencies. It makes the most sense to directly use electricity to power a vehicle instead of the ridiculously long process to use hydrogen in vehicles. Battery manufacturing is getting cleaner. Tesla’s dry electrode technique removes a significant part of the emissions from battery manufacturing, which is the drying oven step. Not having to use drying ovens to dry wet electrodes saves on space and energy use. If you think that this kind of innovation with batteries won’t keep happening, then you’ll be shocked in the coming years. Meanwhile, Toyota can’t even get hydrogen sales and adoption to gain traction, and pretty much all of the major car manufacturers are all in on EVs except for them and Honda.

@sharkracer

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@@waynelewis9110 Another huge stumbling block for pure EVs is the amount of lithium needed. Demand is far outstripping supply, even now, and it's going to get worse. There is no way to get anywhere near replacing ICE unless there is a huge breakthrough with batteries. And hydrogen tech isn't going anywhere since that's the only solution for commercial trucks and possibly ships down the road. And Hyundai is smartly keeping both fires burning. By the way, why so defensive? Any competing tech is good for competition, bringing prices down, more money into R&D, for the end user, this is all good news.

@waynelewis9110

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@@sharkracer Hyundai’s hydrogen vehicles aren’t doing any meaningful numbers, meanwhile, demand for their (and Kia’s) BEVs is rampant and they are well talked about. Lithium supply will catch up to demand. Looked back in the early 1900s. People were concerned about the amount of oil on Earth not being enough to power oil-dependent transportation. Look what happened? The same will be true for Lithium. And there are other ways to make batteries. Sodium ion batteries are being worked on for grid energy use. Battery technology doesn’t stop at Lithium ion and solid-state, but these are two significant technologies. We have to face that hydrogen is not a better option vs batteries in powering passenger vehicles. Sure, maybe ships and aircraft, but a vehicle like the Toyota Mirai? It sells poorly for a reason. It’s not that it performs badly and has terrible range like early Nissan LEAFs. Just no one wants them. They want BEVs. Mustang Mach-E, Model Y, NIO ET5, Hyundai IONIQ 6, I can go on. I can’t name not one well m-anticipated hydrogen vehicle because again, *nobody* wants them.

@sharkracer

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@@waynelewis9110 Lithium reserves are finite, and not that high to begin with, but they're present is such trace amounts that extracting the amount needed is very "dirty". Oil was plentiful from the beginning, and when you have a reserve of oil, you just pump it out. Not so with lithium. And you don't really seem to understand the issues with fuel cells. The Mirai and Nexo aren't selling particularly well because they're basically just testing the market for R&D purposes while they fine tune the tech. They're only selling in select areas because of the limitations of the filling station infrastructure, as I mentioned in the beginning. It costs somewhere on the tune of US$1 million or more to build one filling station. But, the tech is being developed to bring the cost way down. I live in Korea, and they already have around 50 filling stations around Seoul, and they plan on expanding to around 350 around the country by this year. And since the tech isn't going anywhere, since they're using it for commercial trucks and buses, it's not a stretch to say that passenger cars will also benefit greatly. Hyundai is exporting fuel cell busses to Europe. And if Hyundai does bring out a car like the 74, that will be a big boost to the fuel cell tech.

Actually the idea of the hybrid thing is, that You can use more energy output several consecutive times. The issue of the full BEV (like Tesla) is, if You try that, You get fewer energy after some strong accelerations. This is because the battery get too hot. This can avoid if the energy comes from addon fuel cell.

@nutbastard

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This is all true, but where the hell is anyone going to get hydrogen for refueling? Not saying it's not doable, but the logistics are far more complicated than, say, what Tesla has done with superchargers.

Yes those wheel covers could be potentially increased cooling for the brakes, basically they would work somewhat like a ramjet. If the red center is the intake part of the jet nozzle

@HanYou2

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they look like centrifugal fans to me

The hydrogen motor most likely charges the batteries, like a petrol hybrid car does. You only put hydrogen on it, and the hydrogen motor charges the batteries, and that's how you'll get a 600+ km range on such a small battery package.

Kia is making some cool stuff too! For me, they're the most interesting non-china EVs that are ramping up. Everyone else is laughable to Tesla.

@ARMWRESTLINGCYCLINGFRANCE

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They meaning Hyundai and Kia.

@oluwaseunajia

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Hyundai Motor Group is the parent company of Kia, so they are very much similar ..

@ARMWRESTLINGCYCLINGFRANCE

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@@oluwaseunajia yes true.

@Daniel-dj7fh

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The EV6 and Ioniq5 (also the genesis gv60 i think) are off the same base car. I'm very interested to see what Kia is gonna do with the ioniq6 base.

I was lucky enough to land a limited Ioniq 5 and the car is great. I test drove several EVs (including the Model Y and Mach E) and this car just stood out to me. I've put about 8000 miles on it and still am loving it. Can't recommend it enough, just need to see Hyundai commit and ramp up production quickly so others can jump on board.

I’m pretty sure they said that the N Vision 74 was built and used for testing new ideas, I don’t think the videos were rendered, and that it was actual track footage

2:35 Idk where to even begin with this lol, Hydrogen is an EV just as much as battery powered EV's. And battery being able to store and be more energy efficient isn't exactly true, either. You would be seeing more battery powered trucks if that were the case ;)

@Daniel-dj7fh

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I was looking out for this too but I don't remember those two saying that a FCEV is not an EV. BEV's actually have a higher efficiency than FCEV's since Fuel Cells don't just create electricity and water but also heat, if I recall correctly 50% gets converted to electricity, 50% are losses. Where as on BEV's 70% becomes electricity and 30% gets lost in heat, etc. Meaning BEV's are more efficient than FCEV's. The reason you don't see many people (some are actually trying to do this coughTeslacough) is because you're wasting so much towing capacity on the trucks with the weight of the battery modules.

This is very likely going to be a plug-in EV with hydrogen range extension. I sincerely doubt that they would cripple their battery-only performance and rely on hydrogen fuel cell output during conventional driving. Maybe they'll make it so that both systems are outputting when you put it into a "race" mode? That could be an interesting application if you're willing to ditch the range extension for more performance. Of course, that all assumes that they actually make the thing as depicted and with the specs described. What I personally expect to see if a car like this actually gets made is that the production version will be electric only with a very limited release of hydrogen hybrid drivetrain versions in certain markets, and the US won't be one of those markets. The US just doesn't have the hydrogen refueling infrastructure to make this a viable product in our market. It'll probably get that drivetrain option in Japan and maybe the UK and some European countries, but not here. The US is just too big and has had zero reason to invest heavily enough into the hydrogen fuel network for it to be remotely viable over here. Having said all that, this is a very interesting design with loads of late 70's and 80's flair brought gently into the 21st century with some modern styling cues. I hope that the turbofan wheels make it to production but they very likely won't, even as a premium option. Apparently they're an absolute pain to manufacture because you essentially HAVE to rotoforge them, meaning that you have to spin the wheel mold really, really fast while you're dumping the metal into the mold so you can force it into the mold. Or at least that's how the one-piece turbofan wheels work. multi-part designs exist but I like them less.

@kft4764

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Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles are actually propelled by electric motors. The hydrogen isn’t used to directly drive the wheels, but to generate electricity.

@mndlessdrwer

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@@kft4764 I am aware of this, yes. I fail to see how any of my comment brought this into question.

@kft4764

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@@mndlessdrwer It was the bit about both systems outputting when you put it into race mode. Made it sound like an additional source of propulsion.

@mndlessdrwer

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@@kft4764 it would just be another source of electricity. The idea would be to primarily use the hydrogen fuel cell's electrical output as range extension rather than relying on both battery and hydrogen fuel cell discharge for standard driving. Kinda like a Chevy Volt, but without the gasoline combustion.

@sebastianorye2702

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I doubt that Hydrogen is the future of Hyundai, rather i think they are just testing it out to weigh the options. IMO, hydrogen is pointless.

6:02 Those wheels are turbofan wheels, they are better for aerodynamics and pull in cool air to cool down the brakes. They used to be used in rally.

pls release this car just the way it looks. I'm gonna buy it. NO CAP!

Considering a 1/4 of all Teslas have been recalled, yea, Hyundai is king

@sebastianorye2702

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Lol, that's a bad comparison. Also note that those news recalls include overnight software updates, which I wouldn't consider a recall. Hyundai isn't king, but out of other traditional OEMs, they are probably the best performers.

Tesla design is starting to look dated af ngl

@HoldFastFilms

Жыл бұрын

I don't think Tesla's design was ever anything special at all. It has sorta grown on me but more in a sense I tolerate it rather than like it. That's not why I would buy a Tesla though.

@christianramirez7885

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@@HoldFastFilms yeah I agree it’s tolerable. I’ll be honest I always thought the model 3 front looked dated. I’m speaking on the exterior exclusively. Tesla interiors are a separate conversation entirely lol

@trstnhn

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@@HoldFastFilms what are the reasons u would buy one? Poor quality control and fit and finish, poor ride, empty interior, bland design, only goes fast in a straight line, overpriced, no federal credit, etc. Why would anyone still buy a Tesla unless they are a normie.

Those wheels look like the old school rally wheels. Look up old school rally wheels and you’ll see something similar. Love this design!

I'd take a shot at saying the underbody diffuser routes some air to the brakes, but that's pure guessing here

just gonna say it, David works better for the podcast

@Schubert_Standchen

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Yes.

Come on David. The RN22e>>>>>>> IONIQ 6. The front bumper proportions are so much better and that wide stance. sheesh. I really hope the 6N looks like it. Kia and Hyundai/Genesis esp are killing it right now. Their designs are too cool to pass up and a paradigm shift will come to pass if the big boys keep stagnating

I’m obsessed with my Hyundai Elantra N. Keep it up Albert!

Imo Hyundai have been making real nice cars since 2013 with their lineup overhaul, and they’ve been kicking ass and getting better since. They have gotten very good at making low horsepower cars handle very very well, while still making them fast due to the low weight they manage to squeeze out of their builds.