Is Humane's AI Pin the Future or a Flop?
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This week, Marques and David jump right into a bunch of news from the last week or two starting with their thoughts on the Humane AI pin. After that, they discuss iMessage coming to the Nothing Phone 2 (kind of) and a bunch of gadget news ranging from the new Steam Deck OLED to some EV announcements. We wrap up the podcast with answers to our Andrew-centric trivia questions. Speaking of which, Andrew is a dad now!
Note: The news of RCS coming to iMessage got announced after we finished recording so make sure to check in next week for a full deep dive and discussion on that.
Chapters
00:00 Intro
03:22 LG StanByMe
05:39 Humane AI Pin
21:30 Nothing brings iMessage to Phone 2
33:26 Trivia
34:12 Gigabyte (Sponsored)
35:43 Google Pays Apple HOW MUCH?!
44:01 OpenAI Dev Day
49:52 Steam Deck OLED
54:23 Trivia
55:05 Visible (Sponsored)
56:15 Lucid Jumper Cable
59:28 Xiaomi Makes a Car
01:05:28 Polestar 4
01:08:21 NASA+
01:10:02 Cybertruck Reselling
01:13:05 Trivia Answers
01:18:02 Outro
Links:
Humane AI Pin: www.theverge.com/2023/11/9/23...
Google Pays Apple: www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...
iMessage on Nothing Phone 2: • To Beat the iPhone, Yo...
Dave2D Steam Deck OLED video: • Steam Deck OLED Review...
Lucid news: ir.lucidmotors.com/news-relea...
Xiaomi Car: carnewschina.com/2023/11/15/x...
Polestar 4 news: www.theverge.com/2023/11/14/2...
Nasa & Chill: plus.nasa.gov/video/space-out...
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Hey all! We’re aware of the frame rate issue on my camera for this episode. Working on a fix, sorry for that! And also everyone say CONGRATS TO ANDREW FOR THE BABY!
@sl0th1009
7 ай бұрын
I figured Marques was just doing a secret experiment about 24 fps vs. 30 fps. Congrats Andrew!
@StoopyCherry
7 ай бұрын
Congrats to Andrew!!!!!!😆
@SoftKitty0930
7 ай бұрын
Just tell people that this is a generative AI playing David episode
@LurkerPatrol5
7 ай бұрын
Even in slow mo you're still beautiful David.
@sulavjunghamal
7 ай бұрын
I was about to write on frame rate issue confusingly. CONGRATS TO ANDREW.
As someone who’s been listening since the beginning, hearing that Andrew is a dad now is just so cool. Congrats to him!
Dude, the difference in frame rates on Marques’s camera and David’s camera is crazy, congrats to Andrew btw!
@_DBPooper
7 ай бұрын
I thought my screen was messed up
@saraahsachi
7 ай бұрын
I thought it was me 😂
@jacobzillinger
7 ай бұрын
Came to check the comments for this lol... Looks like Miles Morales before he learns how to be Spider-Man 😂
@MMouraable
7 ай бұрын
Did they do this as a joke for Marques being able to tell the difference on frame rates?
@LucaHMafra
7 ай бұрын
Motion sickness go go go
The AI Pin is possibly the easiest $800 thing you can steal off a person in public with no pick pocketing skill
@TySchmidt
7 ай бұрын
At $700 plus a $24 a month subscription for what should be a $10 a month basic data plan, Humane AI users are no strangers to being robbed
@jonathammolinacobos4098
7 ай бұрын
It's actually not easy to steal or remove, requires to remove from battery booster
@elck3
7 ай бұрын
@@TySchmidt what users hah
@sardaracampa1733
6 ай бұрын
Immediately, as in, 6 months after that becomes a problem, they'll add alowjack type of tech that shuts the pun down like the Mission Impossible recording that self distructs while the thief runs away. And sends a GPS locator to the police as to where this crook is. Maybe they can actually make this thing explode while the person is running with it, of course that will be considered illegal and turning it into a weapon. But it was also illegal that you snatched something that belongs to me!
@MrAntisound
6 ай бұрын
@@sardaracampa1733 Yep, and your money is gone anyways..so TySchmidt is right imo.
They actually got the briefcase 💀. Also congrats Andrew!
Congrats Andrew!!!!!
🏁🏁🏁 Hope you enjoyed the 10 minutes of F1 practice! 🏁🏁🏁
@IronBran123
7 ай бұрын
Thats exactly what I thought too when he said that 🤣🤣
David is dropping frames. Can you check him if he is thermal throttling? Perhaps a water cooler might help?
@Waveform
7 ай бұрын
This is good lol
With the Humane AI pin, I’m just excited that people are trying build something new and different. Also congrats Andrew!!
Andrew is gonna make such a natural dad, congrats to him!! Also,that AI pin thingy is just not it
@UhOhUmm
7 ай бұрын
The name is great. I thought it was some kind of AI euthanasia thing.
@_VISION.
6 ай бұрын
So don't buy one when it becomes popular lol
congrats on the new addition Andrew !! ❤
I drove a delivery van last year, and it had a low res camera for the rear view, and even a small low res image was pretty easy to get used to, and I even found it more useful than a radular mirror view.
Wow, I dint realise framerate will have such a huge impact on my viewing experience. And congrats to Andrew 🎉🎉
You probably know this by now, but a token isn't always a word! For GPT2 and successors, tokens are what you get when you distill all words into ~50000 numerical IDs. The first bunch of IDs might represent whole words that are commonly used, but the rest end up being pieces of words that cover everything else :)
Congrats to Andrew! Also the lower frames on David is mighty distracting
This brought back so many memories. Waves of nostalgia came back when I heard paranoid android. I dailied that rom but the name had completely escaped me over the years. Custom roms kept my HTC hd2 running years beyond its Windows mobile lifespan.
Watching the ending I thought it might be a great idea to see a whole video of just these outtakes. Also, congrats Andrew!!
Congratulations Andrew! It's a wild and beautiful ride!
Congratulations to Andrew and Wife. I can definitely see Andrew being an amazing Dad.Enjoy because it goes fast.Such a Blessing.✌️💯
I love this podcast so much. Please never stop.
@TheEtbetween
5 ай бұрын
Really, you have three guys that never built a product in their lives, tell you about the future !
Humane AI is engineered to extract as much "dumb money" out of VCs as possible. It's not that the tech isn't there yet (it isn't though), but it's that even if the tech was there, this would be close to the worst, dorkiest way to execute the idea of an ambient AI assistant.
@LuziraBoy
6 ай бұрын
some day many years later, when we are all probably not here anymore, people will come back to this comment and laugh at you
@JMurph2015
6 ай бұрын
@@LuziraBoy nahhh in that someday, we'll have tech that makes our current imaginations look like jokes.
@LuziraBoy
6 ай бұрын
@@JMurph2015 tech is progressive, whatever it will be then would have been built on what it is now, your issue with humane AI is that “the tech isn’t there” that’s just a time factor
@JMurph2015
6 ай бұрын
@@LuziraBoy you didn't read the comment then. I said even if it was, this idea is the stupidest way to use the necessary tech.
I love the fact that I can watch your videos on background. I can now watch your long KZread videos while I do other things with my phone
The solar eclipse answer that the Humane's AI pin got wrong was mixing up the total solar eclipse that happened earlier this year in Exmouth, Australia (as it said) and the upcoming eclipse in North America next year.
@Atmatan_Kabbaher
7 ай бұрын
Likely because, oh I dunno, GPT has a cutoff date around approximately exactly that time 🤔
@aidanmurrell9094
7 ай бұрын
@@Atmatan_Kabbaher Actually, that's not true. GPT-3.5's dataset cutoff date is December 2021. GPT-4, however, doesn't have a cutoff date, and is constantly being fed new information due to its ability to scrape the web.
@StuartGilbert
4 ай бұрын
@@Atmatan_Kabbaher I would imagine any queries also pass along the current date and time, location, etc.
@Atmatan_Kabbaher
4 ай бұрын
@@StuartGilbert Which would do absolutely nothing except cause the AI to generate false information, given its dataset is not trained on content with those dates.
@StuartGilbert
4 ай бұрын
@@Atmatan_Kabbaher what? If I say to ChatGPT "The current date is 2024-02-12, when is the next total solar eclipse?" You think it won't be able to answer correctly? Edit: I tested it. Input: The date is 2028-02-12, when is the next total solar eclipse? Output: The next total solar eclipse after February 12, 2028, is on July 22, 2028.
The LLM used on these devices should be integrated with search, like bing does. So that way it's up to date, and it's basically a more advanced google assistant that can combine info better.
This was the first week where I got both trivia questions right! More Andrew questions pls
I’m really glad David was brave enough to present himself in the correct frame rate, 24 FPS. Don’t let Marques bully you, live your truth King! Lol
With regard to the humane AI bug there are actually ways to reduce hallucinations on LLM like giving them access to internet sources, it’s a interesting one to watch. And congrats Andrew
Only 1 minute and 51 seconds in and I've already learned so much! RCS baby!!
There was a company trying to make 1st-gen monocrhomatic wireless contact lens displays but they pivoted to doing some sort of display supply.
The Humane AI should have been incorporated into the Ray-Ban meta glasses
the humane pin is the perfect guide for museums and exhibitions and paired it with earphones. and congrats andrew!
@toptiertech7291
7 ай бұрын
That can be done cheaper than $700 😂😂
@deRykcihC
7 ай бұрын
@@toptiertech7291i mean yea if they willing to sell the museums in bulk prices
Is it just me or is David's footage on a different framerate?
@jordanjohn3360
7 ай бұрын
yeah it looks like its 15 fps
@MyselfMarzan
7 ай бұрын
@@jordanjohn3360yeah the wrong fps
@renganv
7 ай бұрын
@@MyselfMarzan marques is not happy
@Weezzer008
7 ай бұрын
I noticed the same thing and good to know I'm not crazy haha
I kind if like the look of the briefcase monitor. It could be a fun minimalist monitor for a desk setup that you want to tuck away.
The way to reduce hallucination is adjust the temperature parameter of the model. The other approach is multiple agents (verifying agent system prompt), but this is expensive.
Love the shot of Ellis silently giving props to Adam. Also Congrats Andrew
Congratulations Andrew! wow it's such a wholesome moment
Andrew!! One of the best things ever just happened to you! Congratulations and welcome to the club ❤.
congrats Andrew!!! make sure to instill the virtue of almonds in your child. just a handful has 15 grams of protein! your child will be big and strong if you teach them the protein value of almonds
Thanks for all the good work Marques..!!
Dropping the Businessman bar was legendary!!
it was lovely of you Ellis to mention the ISRO. you are the best 😊😊
The outro clip with the cut after "thats a reason" was great hahahah
Adam is always on point with the sound board
It's really interesting looking at the videos 'most replayed' part. Really interesting moment where it happens for this video.
About to start my workout and was waiting for this to come out! Now I can hit the gym.
My Fridays are always better when I see a new episode of WaveForm out 😎🔥❤️
🎉🎉🎉 enjoy the best moments of Your life Andrew ❤❤❤ I've got 2 kids, the older one is 6 and the last 6 years have just been magical! BTW yesterday i've been traveling 3hours by train in EU and special episode made my day!! Thanks!
"I'm not a business man, I'm a business". Iconic quote right there.
6-7 yr old fan of the Mkbhd universe from India here… been watching since 2017…! Thanks for the ISRO mention! Proud of our scientists! 💪❤️
Can't wait to see your Vegas F1 impressions and hope you get to see some tech behind the racing, Guys another great podcast, keep up with great work 😊❤
When it comes to making a car, I think the electrification of cars has made it enormously easier to enter the car market versus to how it previous was before the electrification. I am hearing almost every time in these podcasts another new electric car coming out, and I think it's very cool and only possible because we are now embracing electric car tech more. But if you wanted to do this even 5 years ago, you would be facing an uphill challenge the size of Mt. Everest. Electric tech has now made it easy for many new car companies to start up and I think this will obviously be both good and bad, but more good in terms of the variety and innovations we will see in the future from many new manufacturers.
The "Rock & Roll" sign-off is from the OG Podcast. Vergecast.
Just a heads up, camping is very common in Korea, so that TV suitcase is mainly for camping.
CONGRATULATIONS ANDREW!! I WISH GOOD HEALTH AND WEALTH TO YOUR LITTLE ONE!!!!
Multiple Waveforms in the week 🎉
Humane won’t replace the phone. And I don’t think that’s their goal. However I think an improved Apple Watch will be superior to an AI pin. A smartwatch does not stick to your jacket but instead it sticks to your body. That means you don’t have to worry about the device when going inside/outside and you get the benefit of all the health sensors on your body. The only thing the AI pin realistically has over a smartwatch is the camera. But I’m highly skeptical that people want to wear or face someone who wears a camera on their chest. It feels a little bit BlackMirror-ish. $699 plus a mandatory $25 subscription will not be a product for the masses. I do feel a little bit like Steve Balmer saying that though…
@skylakestudio
7 ай бұрын
They've stated in all marketing materials that this is a "standalone device". They've also said that this is the future of computing. If you need a phone in your day-to-day, then the device is neither standalone nor replacing the current computing paradigm. It's pretty clear they think of this as a phone replacement, and I think they're in over their head to do so.
@f_w_
7 ай бұрын
@@skylakestudio I’ve seen that too. Although Steve Jobs had the vision, I don’t think they’re actually that stupid. The trend currently is going towards everything becoming digital. From digital tickets (concert, bus, flight, metro) to other apps. Humane might be able to integrate contactless payment but even then, a smartwatch is a much more convenient device. And maybe I’m not the target group and that’s fine. But I really don’t see a big market for the AI pin. What could the pin do (better) that a watch couldn’t?
Congrats on the baby!!!!🎉
congrats on the new edition, andrew
Congratulations on the baby, Andrew!!
Things like Humane ai pin was one of the things we saw in videos with titled tech in 2030 in 2007.
just finished a run, what a wonderful gift :)
If you guys ever make a whole episode just with an Outro, I'm in.
The AI Pin would be a dope phone accessories. Like I really don't like pulling out my phone all the time, so adding functionality to my phone would be sick. letting the device connect to my phone so I could ask it to add things to my notes, make purchases that appear on my amazon, or control my device would be awesome. I like the touch functionality of talking to the Pin. I turned off the voice activation of my google assistant on my phone because every single time my roommates say "hey google" my phone goes off and turns off my lights. I think its a cool premise, but I dont think it'll replace a phone.
@derAtze
6 ай бұрын
The thing is, everything that has a microphone that works without picking it up (eg smartwatch, headphones or whatever) works just as well or even better than the pin, as long as your phone is within bluetooth distance. I just don't see a benefit from a smartwatch
Love all of you very much and love the podcasts! Keep up the amazing work you do. I just want to mention something that you said which was incorrect. In the Human AI Presentation, the AI said that "A half a cup of almonds has 15 grams of protein" which is correct -- David said it was wrong. Also, the AI said that the eclipse was going to be in Nazas, Durango, Mexico --- Not Australia like David said. Just somethings to keep straight. Love you all!
Thanks for shout out Chandrayan 3😊 1:13:40
I really liked the monocle AR feature that used to be in the Yelp app
I still think you guys should have a different member from the studio fill in for Andrew every week on the podcast! Would be super dope to hear everyone else’s pov. Great podcast, gang!
does anyone else noticed frame drops in david view? i changed 3 browsers just to make sure lol
Thank you David, you made me laugh out loud so hard with the NOOOOO from that ransom analogy 😂 36:00 Seriously had to pause the video and laughed for a bit
Thanks for sharing it. ✌️
Congrats to Andrew!! 🥳
In Mozambique, in my particular very urban, young (under 30), circle, a lot of people use iPhones. But universal amongst both iPhone and android users it that most people don’t even check the iMessage/SMS app. People use WhatsApp. So bringing iMessage to android will actually do nothing in most African markets because WhatsApp is so prevalent and has a whole lot of other features iMessage doesn’t have.
1:13:23 thanks lots guys for the shoutout🌑lots of❤️from🇮🇳
The least tech savvy hun; absolutely obsessed with the pod. Thanks guys!! 😊
@BradGawronski @BradGawronski 29 minutes ago (edited) The solar eclipse answer that the Humane's AI pin got wrong was mixing up the total solar eclipse that happened earlier this year in Exmouth, Australia (as it said) and the upcoming eclipse in North America next year.
@mickeyminsky4776
4 ай бұрын
There must be an updated video of the AI pin in question, I thought it said the best place to see the eclipse was going to be in Mexico in 2024. Which I believe is correct for length of totality and clarity of skies. hmmm.
Congratulations to Andrew 💐🎉
CONGRATS ANDREW FOR YOUR BABY!!
Excited for Andrew teaching a little one the ways of Cholula
Congratulations, Andrew! 🎉👶
Congrats to THE MAN Andrew! 🎉
Gentlemen, it’s Friday. Get hyped!
Huge congrats to Andrew!
Congratulations Andrew!!
Congratulations Andrew!!!!!!!!! You'll be a great dad!!!
Definitely the future I have finally realized that not everything has to be for everyone and things that are not for everyone doesn't necessarily fail
Wearing the Nothing watch I see! Huge congrats to Andrew!
You forgot to mention and don't know if you have seen it, but there is a coffee table that is also a 43 inch touch screen. Great show btw!
I like that monitor for events and travel everything in 1 case
Congratulations Andrew!
Congratulations Andrew 🙌🏽
In India also many people use iphone but use whatsapp for messaging.. here iphone is becoming common now but from many years people are used to whatsapp so its difficult to switch from whatsapp..
I commented this on a Tech Altar video. It applies to the Pin here too: I agree about voice not being a great interface for computing purposes. In my opinion, wearable will never take off. They don't fill any voids. We already have our phones on us 24/7 (basically), which means we are basically wearing it. So spending more money on another device that does just about everything worse than the phone is pointless. In my experience people use their smart watches to primarily check the time, occasionally set a timer, and occasionally check a text message before grabbing their phone to respond to it. And I guess some use it as a fitness tracker, which I think science has shown actually does almost nothing for your health. If you wanna track steps, get a cheap ass pedometer. Or ... again ... just use your phone. As for glasses based systems... there's a reason we don't wear sunglasses inside, and why people with long-hair push it out of their eyes... it's a pain in the ass to have something making it harder to see. Sight is our #1 sense for navigating the world, reducing it in anyway is fundamentally dumb.
What we know about technology is that it will get better, smaller, smarter, etc with iterations in time.. that in mind, I like that the company is taking a risk and bringing a new view of the future to consumers.
Air horns for Andrew becoming a dad is insane lmao
CONGRATS ON THE BABY ANDREW!!!!!!!!!!!!
As an India, the mention of ISRO gave me total goosebumps. Glad to the know the world is recognizing ISRO's potential.
Congratulations Andrew 🎉🎉🎉
Finally, people discussing Humane with some common sense and not just through hype-colored lenses.
Great episode, thanks. Small correction though: 1 token is not a 1 word. 1 token ~= ¾ words
Watching this a little late and after all of the OpenAI chaos of this week it’s interesting how almost completely true David’s statement was at @44:20. And things could probably still change at this point.