EA proponents often just feel disingenuous.

Philanthropy will never be effective to solve issues that are structural.

I wonder if the question is not really, "Is effective altruism evil?, " but rather "Is effective altruism bullshit?"

Confiscatory Taxation of Wealth > Philanthropy > Effective Altruism

Ea is just cover for ends means reasoning

I would have a lot more sympathy for EA if their goals were “we’re giving X% of our annual income now to a cause we agree on as most critical to humanity AND we pledge to give lump sums in the future”. To me the idea that “investing small sums that could save or improve lives now is a waste of money, because if

I think the big problem for me is that EA can lead to this mentality of "oh I'm going to do X and that will save trillions in the future" giving them moral permission to do whatever they want to make money now.

The issue here is that the kind of tech worker who subscribes to EA as an ideology, rarely ONLY subscribes to EA. This is why the work of Emile Torres and Timnit Gebru in bundling EA into its context as one part of TESCREAL ideology is so important to understanding where this stuff is headed.

the problem with EA is that the idea of the "most good" is subjective AF.

Tax Wealth. Now. Let democracy distribute it.

True story . I Listened to this as the podcast version as I cycled to work. I went past another cyclist who had stopped and was having a technical issue with their gears.

Also, like...just tax these super rich people. Tax them and stop creating these leeches on our society, who will use EA pledges to justify why they shouldn't be taxed.

The "Long Term-ism" side of EA is a lot less appealing than the simple idea that we should donate to effective causes. Honestly, I would rather have an apathetic person than someone who is going to do good "once they make it." First off, the person who is working toward their lofty goal will have a great tool to rationalize doing some bad things along the way; the road to good intentions can be paved with Hell. More hypothetically, I wouldn't be surprised if people who say they are going do something good in the future actually do so at less of a rate, because they have already received the fame/accolades/dopamine hit from their public commitment to do good... later.

The big problem with EA is that advice for good normal people "collect money, then give it away" is good moral advice. But the type of people who hear "being selfish first is moral" and are attracted to this philosophy kinda suck. They are inherently more selfish and more willing to be underhanded or two faced.

Nice Lil Tuesday Fellas 🙋‍♂️👊

Thanks as always for the vid!

It's just when people go out of their way to announce their EA.... Like are you doing it for attention and to put yourself on a pedestal, or are you sincerely trying to do something good?

Bigtime shoutout to my Crypo Critics Corner boys, hyped for the new sode, LETS GOE!

Good discussion! Thanks guys.

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