So, a lease but with a lump up front, not every month. I'd be very worried about them honoring that deal when you try to get a new one. "Oh yeah, no. We don't do that anymore". And they'll pick you apart with value adjustments when you turn the bike over. "Hmmm. evidence of a quad lock, I see. Ohhh that'll cost ya. Seat looks like you've sat on it before... thaaaaat's gonna cost ya. Three quarter's tank?!? *sucks teeth*..."

@petebusch9069

4 ай бұрын

LOL

@Yowzoe

3 ай бұрын

that was funny 😊

Ducati have some hard-on to attract the younger market.. all the advertising on this and the hyper 698 is all kids riding these bikes - but most have bad credit, don’t have savings and nowhere to safely store it in their rented accomodation

People must be nuts if they pay half the cost of the bike and then hand it back after 3 years, might aswell buy the new triumph 400x and own it outright.

@chrisfs150

4 ай бұрын

Thats a tricky question buy and own a 5k bike made by a world renowned manufacturer or buy a fickle unreliable ducati for at least 2x the price... ?

@garyteague9555

4 ай бұрын

Love that triumph

@bulthaosen1169

3 ай бұрын

​@@chrisfs150do ducatis still have problem with parts these days?

@reddpill

3 ай бұрын

That's exactly right. That Triumph will affect the entire market, esp. Ducati Scrambler buyers. I bet Ducati wouldn't be happy with Triumph after undercutting the market with that aggressive pricing. Triumph should be congratulated for keeping the market honest.

This idea isn't new, Vauxhall sold Tigras with a 50/50 deal no interest. However, many couldn't afford to pay back the 50%, either losing money selling the car at a loss or taking out loans with interest to settle to finance.

In 1986 Harley Davidson offered to give you what you paid on new Sportsters after a year. I kept mine ten years and sold it for slightly more than I paid for it.

@thakery5720

4 ай бұрын

Took my 1990 model back a year later and the dealer didn't wanna know due to the 'excessive milage' of 11.5k miles... ya gotta read the small print in these deals ! The bike was totally stock and still in showroom condition but I made the mistake of actually riding it.

Just go and buy z900rs,at least you can sit on it in comfort,and resale is very good.

I think if you’re going into a Ducati dealer and getting a Scrambler with the intention of owning it at the end, this deal makes sense. It’s interest free and would be much cheaper than a HP agreement which would divide the total cost of the bike and add a % for borrowing the money. Other than this scenario, I can’t imagine why anyone would go for it.

but sounds like there are no monthly payments which is a big difference from PCP?

Depends if they let you use the original deposit of 5k to put on the next one... i highly doubt it so its cost 2.5k per year to 'rent' the bike. if you can save £208 per month after the initial deposit though.... also, i don't know too many people with a spare 5k cash kicking about...

I used to have 2017 cafe racer and to me old exhaust pipe design was looking great. The older 2022 model of scrambler night shift was better looking than the new one.

Or you could take £5K into a dealer and walk away with new Triumph 400 or RE 650. Can see the appeal though, isn't it just a 0% PCP paid up front... if you kept replacing with a similar model you'd never pay any more than topping up to cover inflation. Walking away after two years would be a big loss, but after 4 or 6, that would be peetty good value wouldn't it? I can see others following this... although surely the 0% is a loss leader here to get you into more exotic models?

The scrambler was the best selling Ducati and brought a lot of people to their brand. After two years of owning my scrambler, I loved every second but would love to get a 950 monster. That deal is probably try to get people into their brand. Most bikers are brand loyal.

Buy now pay now...AND pay later.. Sounds great. So i get to pay 5know and then pay another 5k for a 3 yr old bike thats out of warranty and undoubtedly needs some big servicing costs at that age? Genius.

had the ist gen sixty 2. my first Ducati, I guess so many of us bought it... but after the ridiculous clutch issue, exhorbitant desmo maintenance cost... you will stay away from the Ducati brand as a whole... You hardly see gen 1's anymore on the road in Manila (used to see lots daily) you just stay away after being burned ... plus the Triumph 400x at half the price (despite being a single) just makes a much better value proposition.... must I say it, I'm more confident with Bajaj rather than an italian engine honestly...

@reddpill

4 ай бұрын

Totally agree. That Triumph 400 even thou is in a different sector, will hurt Ducati. That single bike has shaken up the bike market and Ducati will lose alot of sales to it due to their own arrogance.

@marinemtgarcia4221

4 ай бұрын

yeah the maintenance and access to do dealer to do the maintenance is the killer love the look though just wish it was more affordable

@leeandjancruise

4 ай бұрын

I've just bought a 3k mile immaculate sixty2, what was the ridiculous clutch issue?

Sometimes, it is very beneficial to a mfg company to produce more volume even if the demand isn’t staring you in the face; this in turn improves margins because the fixed costs of the company get spread over more units, improving your margins. Contribution margin is a good thing if done properly. Not sure if this is why they are pushing the entry level units and not the higher priced bikes on this deal; but this could help Ducati if the higher priced bike’s sales are slowing. Just another thought to consider…..

5 and 5 sounds great to me... it's never 10 though, is it? Shipping, setup, dealer fees, tax, any 10 is really 12.5... welcome to Dealerworld. If it is really 5+5 grab it. You'll never get a better deal. I might actually check this out. Just to see...

We did 50/50 with Vauxhall circa 1996 or so…it was good for sales but they dropped it after a while, can’t remember why. PCP took off and was way better for both parties. Best way to run a PCP is zero deposit as you’ll never be in a worse position. That said, what’s a 2 yr old scrambler worth? If it’s more than 5k you can claw back a little of that 5k but overall I’d advise just buying a used one with a personal loan.

Ducati just had a 0% financing option for their 2023 model This sounds like an amazing deal

Just skip it and get the Kawasaki z900rs much better motorcycle

It's like a 1pay lease to benefit the rider and manufacturer.

Sounds like they are “scawed” of the Triumph 400 and the like.

@reddpill

3 ай бұрын

100%, Triumph should be congratulated for keeping the market honest. Ducati have become too arrogant. Imagine thinking that D Scrambler is worth the money they're asking in today's market where everyone makes great bikes with less maintenance costs.

But where's the Catch?, to me sounds they are desperate to sell there products. What if you accidentally drop or damage the bike in those two years? And do you have to service the bike to a ducati dealer in those two years or you can service it at your personal mechanic or perhaps service it yourself?

@thebrowns5337

4 ай бұрын

I feel you'd be looking for gap insurance as it is still finance (what if you lost your job in that two years?) and would be anxious about the bike for two years as if you might want to return it - and are happy for your initial 5k to be spent on another Ducati, they will deduct damages.

@spartanx169x

4 ай бұрын

Insurance and frame sliders. Its not hard to figure out.

@ripmax333

4 ай бұрын

@@spartanx169x frame sliders don't protect all the parts of the motorcycle, plus Insurance works different from country to country, In my case where I live the Insurance won't insure you fully comprehensive on a Motorcycle like this because for them is a high risk, unless you are willing to pay a huge sum every year.

@reddpill

3 ай бұрын

Yes this is dangling carrots to the financially poor to solve Ducati's cashflow problem.

Rather than price the bike accordingly, after pricing themselves out of the market due to their own arrogance, they double down and try place the cashflow problem onto the customer.. The finance deal alone shows how overpriced the bike is, and why they cannot sell them, in a market that has slowed down with many other cheaper alternatives.

@logangodofcandy

4 ай бұрын

$10k for a Ducati is priced out of the market? They f'd up dropping the sled.

@thebrowns5337

4 ай бұрын

​@@logangodofcandy£10k gets you a lot of bike. A basic 850 air cooled isn't 'a lot of bike' whoevers badge is on it.

@gigi9467

3 ай бұрын

Well said

@gigi9467

3 ай бұрын

@@logangodofcandynot expensive for a ducati maybe but the value compared to other brands is not there unless u are brand myopic

Same design with around 400cc n come to INDIA

Ya kiddin'? IF there's no interest, no depreciation & no fees(?) it's too good to be true....

@logangodofcandy

4 ай бұрын

You pay half to own for a couple years. Then, you lay down the other half and own, or lay down the other half and upgrade to a new bike and wait another couple years to put down the third half, etc.

@markh7222

4 ай бұрын

You own half the bike , you can only sell the bike back to Ducati.

@thebrowns5337

4 ай бұрын

​@@markh7222and even then you don't get money back, just a contribution to another, more expensive bike. Ducati are the winners here... pants down.

Saw a Scrambler when they first came out, sat on it and thought it was made for someone smaller than me and I am only 5' 8"... I'll stick with my Harleys thanks.

Buy half now, pay half later

It's like crack dealers... sell 'cheap' to get you hooked then the rest is history as they say

Way too expensive

I don't know how you guys think these bikes are good. I bought a 2022 model new and the forks are complete rubbish, bordering on dangerous for handling. I fixed that for $1000 which fixed the dodgy handling, and later replaced the rear shock for another $1000. Performance is average at best, with lots of torque very early on the throttle and nothing after that. There are some kooky bad design elements too, like, there is an opening in the rear cover for the C-spanner to adjust shock pre-load but it isn't big enough to rotate the C-spanner in any direction, so you end up having to remove the cover, which is an absolute pain.

@spartanx169x

4 ай бұрын

What was wrong with the forks? Too soft, too hard? uneven bounce? What?

@nicholasniechayev4037

3 ай бұрын

I have a 2022 Desert Sled, and I somewhat agree. The suspension is definitely made to push you towards the aftermarket and is too firm as stock. I suspect it's even worse on the non-adjustable models. Everything else about it feels great though. Not a rocket, but fun to ride fast and slow, and decent off-road. These new models look worse to me though...

Sounds like a great deal to me!

I said it then, and I say it again they cheat out on it. This was nothing more than a cost saving exercise.

@sburns2421

4 ай бұрын

IDK. It looks more like they have to move Scramblers and are content to effectively give you an interest-free loan for two years on half the cost. Unlike the past 15 years, they are subsidizing what would be a healthy interest rate of ~10%. The accounting for this from their end would be a nightmare. Maybe they use a separate company that actually "owns" the bike you are leasing

@stevieg7403

4 ай бұрын

@@sburns2421 I have the original scrambler and when I went to have a look at the new version, I was disappointed with the quality of the seat the exhaust pipe dash and so on. It looked more like a restyling exercise with cost-cutting in mind to me. I’m sure they’re having problems shifting them, hence the interest free period.

@sburns2421

4 ай бұрын

@@stevieg7403 I wouldn't buy the new one just for that stupid headlight that looks like someone put an X of black tape over it. Just put the Monster headlight on and be done.

Your risk is will the bike lose 50% of it's new price in 2 years. Looking at Autotrader I would say not as currently a 2022 appears to be valued at 66% of new price, so if you are desperate to buy a new Ducati and have 5000 quid saved up, go for it. But make sure you put 200 quid a month into a deposit account too pay the balance. You will then have a bike you own outright worth £6,500 with plenty of life left in it. Keep depositing that 200 quid a month and after another 2 years you can can put down 8 to 9 K against a bigger Duke if they have a similar deal in future. If Duke were being really clever they would say once you you take up this deal you can carrying doing it for life against any Ducati.

@TheYumran

3 ай бұрын

Exactly right, some people don’t seem to get it’s better than o they as that’s got a 9.9% interest rate

@reddpill

3 ай бұрын

People need to stop living outside their own means, and would be better off financially buying the Triumph 400.

I would not even consider this deal

no other new bike ever demands changing belts at any point in it's life. Ducati is just not worth it.

@nicholasniechayev4037

3 ай бұрын

The belts and Desmo valves allow the scrambler to rev comfortably to 9,200 rpm. Hard to find other V-twins that do the same. Trade off is maintenance, but the belts are actually pretty easy to change on these bikes as long as you get some aftermarket tools.

You guys realize that aesthetics is a huge part of motorcycle sales and the new Ducati scrambler's exhaust system looks like poorly engineered crap, (for a lack of a better term) Comes out right behind the front tire so gravel can destroy it, makes a big loop over the engine and goes back down to the bottom of the motorcycle, a place that a scrambles exhaust system should never be, the only scrambler on the market Ive seen that has a real scramble type exhaust system is the Triumph 1200.

I never see scramblers in the wild, they are also expansive and people rather buy a KTM 890 duke or something from the Yamaha MT range.

Here's an upside to the naysayers. Pay the $5000 upfront. Ride it for 2 years, then get a new one. Buying any motorcycle for $10,000 today and selling it 2 years later will result in a 50% or more loss. This is a guaranteed max loss of 50%. If the used market is strong and you can sell it for more than the $5000 owed, then pay it off and sell it privately and pocket the difference. It's a good deal either way.

Jewcatis are expensive

@bikeman123

3 ай бұрын

What's that supposed to mean?

@MarmiteTheDog

3 ай бұрын

​@@bikeman123 Bob was talking about Jewcatis - I came here to find out about Ducatis. Must be some Chinese copy...