He reminds me of younger Verstappen. Absolutely a whole step ahead of everyone pace wise but constantly making dumb mistakes. He gets too in his head when something inconvenient happens to him and starts pushing way harder than he should to try and make up for it. I mean look at what Palou did last year and is doing this year, he just plays it smart the whole race and gets the best points available to himself no matter the circumstances. IMO pace wise Herta is a whole step ahead of Palou but Palous maturity is getting him better results. Herta is still young but he for sure has the talent to be a F1 driver. He just needs to mature, It took some years for Max to mature i think Colton can do the same.

@jmrr6959

2 жыл бұрын

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@maxb412

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I think people underrate palou I think they are close in pacw

@default123default2

2 жыл бұрын

Im surprised he hasn't cleaned it up a bit more already. Max made slow/steady progress on the crash front

@TheGreatCornholio.

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxb412 I think indycar will keep palou at any cost, they need a new generation of drivers that can be as praised as the older guys

At the moment, I would say Alex Palou and O’Ward are more mature and should be picked before Herta. Herta has potential but he has to be more consistent and make fewer mistakes

@ianmckinney1053

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think palou has any desire to leave Indy. Oward seems a little inconsistent at times and herta has a lot of maturing to do imo.

@maxm3757

2 жыл бұрын

@@ianmckinney1053 the difference is Mclaren are still fairly new to Indy, whereas Alex and Colton are in two of the big three teams, Mclaren on occasions don’t deliver the car for Pato to fight with

@lonewolf2513

2 жыл бұрын

Palou isnt going anywhere. Herta has even said if he goes to F1 he would want to come back here and O'ward might even do the same. IndyCar is better with these 3 here

People are comparing Colton to Verstappen...I'm fearing that he's going to end up like a Paul Tracy. Insane pace, insane potential, but completely limited by him being so error-prone. Hope that doesn't go the way Paul's career went, but all of these errors and times where he should score great points, but leaving the event with little, to no, points and a wrecked car (or finishing so far back that he may as well had crashed out), is a cause for concern on my end.

As an American i’d rather they give Pato or Palou the nod, Herta has a TON of pure speed but he’s not as consistent as the other two.

@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303

2 жыл бұрын

Iirc Palou was considered as a driver for that Monaco Racing entry that was talked about some time ago

Friend if mine and I where discussing Herta during the race and I said he'd find a way to blow it, right as he spun.

I think pato deserves it more tbh but I've always rated him highly, but realistically Colton will be first imo

@lucasday7330

2 жыл бұрын

More of a ceiling for herta

@davidbiro4265

Жыл бұрын

Pato is brilliant in oval tracks, but F1 tracks suit Herta more.

Herta is definitely good enough for F1. More exciting than any of the current F2 drivers in my view (except maybe Iwasu and Hauge... and Poichaire). Herta has the speed and all or nothing style link Montoya had, which is very desirable (and marketable). Zak Brown clearly rates him highly.

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

Except the main reason he is linked with F1 right now is his nationality! Pace wise, he is worthy to have a chance, but if he has a seat on the grid without winning a championship, it's truly unfair!

@Aaaeendrew

2 жыл бұрын

@@quentinhirschfeld9382 He's proven to be very effective in a highly competitive field of drives with equal tools. Whilst consistency is an issue, this is the way for all young drives, and any athletes in fact. If you read a recent interview with Adrian Newey on the race's website, F1 team managers and personnel can accept inconsistent results and incidents. They can't accept a lack of commitment or effort. Herta fits the bill perfectly for F1.

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aaaeendrew Well, they can accept some errors, but not constant mistakes, which is pretty much what Herta's doing right now! Moreover, regardless of his pace, he has to win the Indy title, because having a shot in F1 tanks to your nationality is frankly not better than paying for your seat!

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aaaeendrew Especially given a lot of drivers like Piastri, De Vries,... didn't had a chance (yet?) in F1!

I think O'Ward would be the better option.

I definitely think Herta more mature than Verstappen on a personal level, and has similar pace, but unlike Max, hasn't found that threshold on how to have that blistering pace without crashing. I think he needs to try to pick and choose his battles. I will say, it is hard to be consistent in race cars with no power-steering, but especially the way Herta drives. He'll find that fine-line eventually. Max came in young and it took him years to find it. I think the same can be said for Herta.

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

Verstappen crushed everyone in karting and comprehensively out-paced all his teammates (including Prime Ricciardo), while Herta had some difficulties when he raced in European promotion formulas, not to mention his teammates weren't particularly exceptional either, so before saying "Colton = Max" on sheer pace there's a long way to go! Herta has also very little experience in some sort of situations, they don't race often in the wet for example in the US!

@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance

2 жыл бұрын

@@quentinhirschfeld9382 So I want you to read this carefully because I don't want to give you the wrong idea. It's because Max didn't have to do as much to get into F1. He definitely worked hard to compete for wins in pretty much every race up until then, probably harder than everyone else, but his rise up the rankings was insanely quick; skipping a step or two on multiple occasions on the way. He literally went from Karting to F1 in two years. That's like getting an A on a Math Test at 15 an and becoming a university professor two years later. Most Americans don't last in the European series because they run out of money, and have to find an alternative. Plus it's not like all of Herta's teammates along the way were bad; he had Lando Norris as a teammate in the MSA Championship in 2015. Lando won the title, and other than a rough start of the season, Herta put up numbers that weren't far off from Lando's and finished 3rd in the championship. Okay, I take it back; Herta is likely on Lando's level. People do say that Norris is capable of multiple F1 wins and I agree.

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

@@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance I know, but nevertheless, his talent was insane, you could tell from A day (even though not all guys who had amazing karting careers manage to keep their level up to single-seaters). Colton's first season in Europe was encouraging, but then, he disappointed big time in 2016 Euroformula Open (i mean, his numbers were good, but not when you look at the level of the grid) and quite frankly meh at the Masters of Formula 3 the same year! And he's definitely not on Lando's level, there's a galaxy that separates their race-craft!

@nealmiller7849

2 жыл бұрын

@@quentinhirschfeld9382 Look man, I get that you like Formula 1, but I don't think the driver talent difference between Indycar and F1 is some insane galaxy as you are stating it to be. I know it's the only data we have to compare some of these drivers, but relying entirely on junior formula results to decide if a driver is good or not doesn't work that well. Example: Conor Daly was one race win away from winning the F3 championship, and then went on to be averyage-to-bad for his entire Indycar career. On the other hand Josef Newgarden looked pretty meh in his junior formula career, and then found his footing in his early 20s and turned out to be a massive talent.

I think he shows enough talent that he deserves a shot. Not necessarily a drive, but some tests so he can prove himself.

A lot of Indycar drivers are f1 caliber in my opinion talent wise obviously age with some of these drivers would be an issue but f1 caliber drivers on the grid are Dixon palou power herta newgarden Ericsson grosjean pagenaud an en veekay pagenaud are all good enough in my opinion to be in f1 atm

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

Ericsson? Did you actually watched him when he was in F1? This guy got out-scored by all his teammates and trashed by a rookie (yeah, it was Charles Leclerc, but still)!

He's good enough. I'd say he's better than at least a few other F1 drivers right now.

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

He is quick enough, but if he got the McLaren seat for 2024 without clinching the Indycar Series title, it's not gonna feel right! At the moment, the main reason he is linked to F1 is his nationality!

I mean, if Trulli, Glock, Sato, Ralf Schumacher, Ericsson, Zanardi, etc all made it to F1; why not?

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

What the heck Trulli and Ralf Schumacher are doing on this list? They're 2 of the best F1 drivers of their generation!

@carlpeant9666

2 жыл бұрын

U have no clue what u saying, glock,ericcson, zanardi fine sato ok but trulli and especially ralf were srsly good enuf to be in f1

I desperately want someone to make the switch from Indycar to F1 and perform well, just so Indy gets a bit more credibility it very much deserves.

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

It already happened it the past!

@lonewolf2513

2 жыл бұрын

IndyCar is as credible as they come

@uranium-2382

2 жыл бұрын

@@lonewolf2513 not to some snobby Europeans

@lonewolf2513

2 жыл бұрын

@@uranium-2382 just ignore them

@lonewolf2513

2 жыл бұрын

@@uranium-2382 and besides. Without IndyCar, motorsports as we know it as a whole would look very different

Watch his last race. He’s got all the talent in the world he just lacks consistency. But this last race was a game changer. I think he proved his worth and could very well get a seat in F1 in the coming years.

Colton Herta might be good enough for F1, but there are some absolute unreal talents coming up through junior formula he will have to compete with for a seat.

As a non American I'm a massive fan of Herta's. I acknowledge his flaws, like a lack of consistency, isn't great on ovals, makes mistakes. But when he's fast there aren't many that can beat him. I want to see that potential in f1.

I havent watched too many of your videos since you switched over mainly to indy. Hope you keep making content that you enjoy though with how toxic f1s community can be. Hope now your making content you love!

I’d certainly pick Pato O’Ward over Herta, but that’s just me, neither look like probable long term F1 drivers.

Totally agree with your points as one of his fans is always frustrating with the inconsistency and mistakes. It’ll only be a matter of time before he has to learn but he’s rapid

@DavidGossettMusic

2 жыл бұрын

I feel some of the same traits apply to Pato as well. On the right day, he's properly quick, but he lets the behind the scenes drama get to him. Palou winning the championship last year and (currently) leading the 2022 points shows the other two drivers' weaknesses. While they may have more raw talent than Alex, he doesn't make big mistakes.

I completely agree! Every issue you mentioned is spot on. He should have already won twice the amount of races than he currently has. Great Channel! Thanks for covering.

To be considered suitable to get on an F1 grid you must be very fast, consistent, brave and have brains ie good feedback to the team. Also marketable or brings sponsorship. Herta is fast, not sure about very fast, brave, but not consistent. Experience so far would not give good feedback to an F1 team. He is very marketable in the USA but not outside. He is currently 22 and would be 24/25 if he joined F1 which is a bit late to be a rookie. He is not a Mclaren test driver as he will be driving a design that is now a museum piece. Also there are strict limits on testing in F1 with the cost cap. They have two test and development drivers and Its an opportunity for Herta to do tests in that car where they already have data to compare him to and also see if he can master the complexity of an F1 car. Also the physical needs of F1 driving around bends.They can compare to Pato as well. However I think Mclaren are using this for marketing reasons and as part of collaboration with Andretti. I dont see either American drivers in an orange car as an F1 driver. There are potentially better drivers out their who are 16 and 17 now. Would be interesting to hear the view of Trevor Carlin who both drivers have driven for and seven current F1 drivers have driven for him as juniors.

He's fast as hell just too error prone like early Max Verstappen

That was a fair assessment. Maturity race craft are what champions are made of.

Herta has also been plagued with bad pit stops and every Andretti driver has been plagued with bad luck since after Rossi was in the championship title fight

the talent (+ the connections lol) is there, it's just that a couple more yrs in indy would not hurt before the switch. pato as well, & palou seems to be up for it even now, with his championship win/overall results. kiiiind of don't want anyone to go because indy is my favourite but of course f1 opens way more doors so i get it

I hope Logan Seargant gets the Andretti seat

Without a doubt. The competition in Indy car is a bit above F2 imo...alot of years of experience amongst it's drivers. Don't mean to take anything away from F2, but Herta has shown some dominance here. just the way I see it.

Well, it would be interesting to see someone from us open wheel series joining the f1 grid, but these are rarely successful, apart from Villeneuve and Montoya, rarely anyone comes to mind who would be successful in any way in f1. If for example Franchiti didn't make it onto f1 grid, I don't see why Herta would.

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

Because F1 is pushing for having an American driver on the grid! It's another case of someone being in contention for an F1 seat for other things than merit (even though Herta has the pace)!

One thing of course to note is title consistency in f1 is scoring 2nd when you don’t win , title consistency in indycar is scoring more than 50% top 5s

No. Not yet anyway. Palou would make a good second driver right now. What I think is a real shame is that Newgarden wasn't financially able to have furthered his attempt at the European scene. Anyways in the end I really don't like the thought of losing any Indycar to F1. I'd much rather see great drivers battle on a level playing field than waste their talent struggling in a midfield or worse car.

To be honest, I couldn't put Herta over really any of the big guys of IndyCar, but he seems to have phenomenal 1 lap pace.

If Herta wasn’t American he wouldn’t get any publicity for a possible F1 seat. He’s good but nowhere near as consistent as Pato or Alex

There's still at least two more years until Andretti F1 becomes a reality, if it indeed does. Herta has at least two more seasons to truly improve his racecraft in IndyCar while easing into the world of F1 through testing. If he can keep his raw speed and minimize mistakes, he can bring himself to an F1-level talent fairly easily.

If he gets more consistent he might be the best Indycar/F1 drivers out there

Yes .

Pato Oward in agreement

F1 has had its fair share of drivers who were fast and aggressive but unfortunately inconsistent and mistake prone, Max was and Grosjean was too at some point, the only reason why Colton is seen as not good enough but they were is because Colton didnt go down the traditional path of F1 imo, granted there are drivers who are probably better equipped to find success quick in F1. The real question is whether Indycar's fans even want Herta or any of the drivers in the sport going to F1. Ive had a look and the opinions vary. Some say a driver like Colton or Pato would make for great ambassadors of Indycar to the F1 world, others say they wont get very far in F1 because there isnt a team good enough for them to move to and they will become nobodies in the sport. In other cases, Ive seen people saying young Indycar drivers moving to F1 would perpetuate the idea that Indycar is an inferior series. For reasons more specific to Colton, American talent in Indycar, especially young exciting prospects, is already scarce in a wave of European entries, some see this as a problem for an American racing series. I watch F1 as my primary motorsport and Im guessing a lot of people who watch this channel are the same. However, I frankly don’t want Colton going to F1. These drivers are products of Indycar, and Indycar from what I can tell is very aggressive, sure, we have more conservative drivers, but when the drivers are aggressive they are REALLY aggressive, its fun and all but not what F1 is. If Colton or many of the other drivers race the way they do right now all they will do is catch the ire of F1 fans (even if Grosjean is catching the ire of some drivers atm though its personally overblown). Also, F1 and Indycar are incredibly different in their culture, the history of Indycar probably means most of the drivers and teams are sick of politics given it literally tore the sport in two, and the CART/IRL drivers who moved over in the past like JPM didnt really enjoy their time across the pond.

On sheer pace, he is, but he has to win the Indycar Series before having a shot in F1, because otherwise, it's going to feel more like Liberty Media and Brown are pushing to have an American driver on the grid just for the marketing! If he get the McLaren seat for 2024 as a non-Indycar champion, it will be a disgrace for me!

He's good enough but not consistent enough right now. Because he is easily the fastest week in and week out. But damn his team puts him in bad spots and he pushes the car too hard (see long beach, barber, and Nashville last year as examples)

Not yet

If Colton did race in f1 hopefully his career won't be like Brendan Hartley's

I know how fast SMac is and will be, he's as extreme but a better racer, Herta is fast but makes elementary mistakes a lot of the time, this isn't a good look atm,....he just needs maturity and further experience. Btw I'm taking SMac in a trifecta or podium 500 bet, he just seems to love American ovals,...no fear!!!...Currently leads P1pts, no surprise to me, this will only improve I believe.

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

Who's SMac?

@ellienomaly

2 жыл бұрын

@@quentinhirschfeld9382 scott mclaughlin, probably

Herta is choking way too much. Put Kyle Kirkwood in there, his win percentage in the road to Indy has been ridiculously good

he is good for mid team

He won’t last in F1. Definitely shouldn’t get the super licence exemption when he can’t even win Indycar as the favourite for 3 years and constantly makes contact with either the wall or another driver which Is the biggest no no for F1, he looks F2 ready at most

On the topic of American drivers, Logan Sergeant deserves to be in F1 more than Herta or O'ward.

@DylanJamesGP

2 жыл бұрын

Very much not true

@soisaidtogod4248

Жыл бұрын

Deserves has zero to do with being a driver in F1.

I believe that if Andretti buys F1 Herta has a good chance of getting in F1

Pato already has said he wants to stay in Indy car

@olinaguasalvarado3225

2 жыл бұрын

He made a deal with Mclaren on his new contract. He is going to test the current car sometimes this year. If he wins the indy car championship or the indy 500 this year or the next they will moving him to f1 after Riccardo contract expires.

I love your videos but honestly I mostly come here to read the comments from the F1 snobs

@soisaidtogod4248

Жыл бұрын

YOU FOLKS SUPPLY SO MANY LAUGHS THOUGH!

He's exactly like a younger Max

Hes like Leclerc super fast,but still having mistakes here and there

Pato

Id be curious how you think someone like Hamilton would realistically do in indycar... My bet would be he would avg around 8th-17th which begs the question are there any current F1 driver who are not yet ready for indycar aside from the obvious ones...?

He's quick and while he certainly has some learning to do we've seen the best of F1 have their share of unforced errors. Just look at Charles Leclerc for example. Still making them despite being in one of the best cars

Nah

This video lol.. Herta has to go up in every race against the likes of Scott Dixon, Joseph Newgarden, Will Power, Alex Palou, Pato Oward, Alexander Rossi, Felix Rosenqvist, Renus Veekay, Graham Rahal, Helio Castroneves amongst others and he’s still one of the quickest on the grid. Ummm, yes, he’s good enough for F1 lol. Everyone makes mistakes and matures, smh.

@soisaidtogod4248

Жыл бұрын

No, most of these people could never do 20 laps in a F1 car.

@Bolt_theG35

Жыл бұрын

@@soisaidtogod4248 lmao.. that’s the most of a response this idiotic comment deserves to it. Smh!

Shame for Ilott at barber could've got points

@bobcatracer

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that hurt.

If Verstappen is allowed to drive in Formula 1 then Herta is good enough.

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

Tell me how many times Verstappen crashed on his own in the last 4 seasons!

@barnigranero5882

2 жыл бұрын

@@quentinhirschfeld9382 It's not the ones where he has crashed on his own that I am concerned about.

Yes. But is F1 good enough for Colton Herta?

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

@JasonCliftJones

2 жыл бұрын

@@quentinhirschfeld9382 Surely any driver worth their salt wants to be in a competitive series, and not one that's rigged for "entertainment" like wrestling...

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

@@JasonCliftJones Indycar is much more about entertainment than F1 tbh! F1 is becoming more like an American entertainment since Liberty Media bought it!

@JasonCliftJones

2 жыл бұрын

@@quentinhirschfeld9382 It's either less obvious or I've not played close enough attention to IndyCar to notice it yet.

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

@@JasonCliftJones When you have a whole field with the same machinery and 100% unpredictability, it's pretty obvious for me. But anyway, i imagine you were referring to Abu Dhabi?

Colton will privilege his way to F1

young, mistakes and lot of raw speed=not good for f1. verstappen disegree

No, he is not.

He's no where near consistent enough for F1. There's many others that have a better understanding of F1 in front of him. He was quick in GP but again inconsistent performance's caused him to walk away. Like most Americans he couldn't handle the week to week pressure

F1 is a motorsport 💩 wrapped in money.

@quentinhirschfeld9382

2 жыл бұрын

It's like that in practically all motorsport categories!