I just feel so bad for CC. Imagine how excited she must’ve been to enter the league and learn from the best, to be challenged and to have the opportunity to evolve and grow her game. And then she’s dropped into an incapable team with a clueless coach, in a league where everyone seems to just have animosity towards her. It must be gut wrenching. I hope she stays strong and doesn’t loose her joy! If I were one of the vets in the W I would’ve been ecstatic to have the opportunity to take a generational talent under my wings and show her the ropes. What a sad situation…

@lilikaramirez1848

19 күн бұрын

Yea it's sad

@Rascool69

19 күн бұрын

I constantly think about that too.

@Tim_Dunkin

19 күн бұрын

Those are her opponents not her teachers. It's 144 spots in the W, an opponent is not gonna help you get their spot, you gotta take it. She'll be alright, it's competition.

@TaiyouArt

19 күн бұрын

Nah she’s fine ….the media and noise makes it seem worse

@billviola7884

19 күн бұрын

Reality is a harsh awakening

Caitlin had better numbers over the 1st two weeks of the season (minus turnovers) than any rookies or any of the vets. It wasnt even close

She's not overrated.at all .. there's no way she was going to be the goat THIS season..but CC is putting up stats on par with the best her first season

@goodjobb24

19 күн бұрын

Cc admitted she's struggling, overrated players struggle and those was her expectations to struggle.

I’ve always said that some players just pass the eye test. The shots we have all watched her make over the last 3 years speak for themselves. She makes passes and sees the court as good as any female player I’ve ever witnessed. Leading an Iowa team against perennial powerhouse programs like South Carolina, LSU and UConn is no small feat. If she didn’t pass the eye test she would have never caught been noticed by the LeBron and Steph Curry and an entire country.

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

Yes, spot on 💯

2:25 3 more turnovers can be the difference between 6-9 points scored by the opponent. That’s a whole loss if your opponent capitalizes on each turnover with points. Yeah, those turnovers are a huge deal for CC. Also, she like bottom 5 for plus minus in the league. CC is a complete defensive liability playing with little to no effort on the defensive end. Are you watching the games? There’s a reason they’ve only beaten the worst teams in the league.

@outsidethegarden

5 күн бұрын

but he makes the point, in another video, that (a) turnovers might be CC's fault, or the receiver's fault, or good defense -- so they're definitely not just CC's fault -- and (b) she's learning how to pass in the pros, with a lot more defense on her, and she's going to need to experiment. so (c) you definitely do NOT want her to stop learning how to assist, since that's one of her strengths and a major plus for the team. but so many commenters on YT are all about "oh she has so many turnovers!" as if she needs to stop passing. lol.

thank you for being simply LOGICAL. ppl forget that CC is a rookie, that is getting blitzed multiple times every game, that gets doubled multiple times every game and she is getting picked up defensively full court of 3/4th of the court multiple times a game. and she is still up there. overrated? in my books she is pretty damn perfectly rated, especially taking into consideration she seems to be completely incompatible with the last seasons #1 Aliyah Boston who is drugging her feet around the court while CC wants to run as fast as possible. She is also playing for one of the worst teams in the league, coached by (most probly) the worst coach in the league. And people really wanna call her OVERRATED.

Carter! I was really happy that Mick (Mick Talks Hoops) mentioned you today. He said he saw your video and commented he thought it was an excellent idea for a video. I'm happy that you're showing up, that you're in view. I have dozens of KZread channels bookmarked, but there are only a few I tend to go to because they have original content and are not just a KZreadr in the corner commenting on someone else's video. Yours is one of those. By the way, along another line of thought, and this also speaking about if Caitlin is overrated or underrated, I watched another KZreadr who made a point and expressed it in a way no other person had said. Well they've commented on it, but he stressed it over and over. He said he would not be able to compare any other player in the WNBA to Caitlin because he doesn't know any other player who is picked up 94 feet and who is face-guarded even when she doesn't have the ball. Then he described face-guarding. One example he mentioned was Aja Wilson. He said she doesn't get guarded 94 feet, that she's not guarded until she gets to the three-point line. And she's the best player in the WNBA. I thought it was a good point. I'm sure people could agree or disagree, but I still found it an interesting point. Ak Nation TV If you're interested, snakes is in the title.

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

Wow, I have to check that video out now! I’m glad you like the content as well. But that’s a really good point about how she’s being defended. I’ll have to use it when I make the “second edition” of the turnovers video I made a while back. 💯

Let's not forget Caitlin Clark is putting up good stats despite playing for the worst team and the worst coach in the league.

The media is having a dishonest conversation about her merit, and it is really pissing me off. Every show I watch leads with like she hasn't earned it insinuating that she is struggling so bad and has terrible stats's which is not even close to being true. This girl is only 22 and needs to be lifted up for her mental health. Seriously what she is experiencing has to be messing with her head.

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

💯💯💯💯

@outsidethegarden

5 күн бұрын

no lie. part of what makes me a CC fan is feeling for what she must be going through.

Spot on. People want to compare CCs three point percent to NBA spot up shooters.

@SinisterAristotle

19 күн бұрын

Isn’t she the female Steph Curry? His numbers are close to 50-40-90. She’s closer to 35-30-90. Good free throw percentages tho, like Kelsey Mitchell.

@Steve-li1ru

7 күн бұрын

When she's jacking up so many contested shots, she'd actually make more.. That's my biggest beef with her right now. She'd rather go for that highligh reel logo shot than to pass to an open team mate. She's shooting at too high of a volume compared to what she's passing at. She's forcing the game instead of letting it flow.

Yep. On top of that, CC ranks #1 in points, assist, 3-pointers, and #2 in rebounds per game among her rookie class. Any objective fan can clearly see that the girl is upholding her end of the expectations.

@davidbodie544

19 күн бұрын

Her game is amazing especially how well she rebounds for a PG!

@JoChi-zd4rd

19 күн бұрын

Well guarded at that stat😂😂

@SinisterAristotle

19 күн бұрын

In terms of expectations, she was #3 for MVP in the vetting markets. Those people clearly had higher expectations than you lol

@stephengrinkley9889

19 күн бұрын

@@SinisterAristotle I couldn't care less what betting markets say. Anyone with common sense will judge a rookie primarily based on how they stack up with their class.

@harveycminusmansfiel

19 күн бұрын

@@stephengrinkley9889 Well, I think in approaching the question of whether she's overrated or underrated, I think betting markets are a BETTER MEASURE of EXPECTATIONS than whatever some random dudes here and there are saying, especially now that we can see her struggling especially against really good defenses who have a vested interest in covering their trails in an ad hoc way. Remember, she's supposed to be 'transformational' and this transformational character is supposed to be because of her basketball skills (not because of some non-basketball related quality like personality, looks, being Irish Catholic from the midwest, etc). So she was never expected to be just another rookie as part of yet another rookie class. The betting markets reflected this.

Comparing Caitlin Clark’s stats to others in the WNBA is impressive specially the fact that Caitlin Clark is face-guarded in the 94-feet of floor space throughout the game and double/triple teamed most of the time which no WNBA player including these “great” players were ever subjected to that kind of pressure.

"Over-rated" is basically measuring where a player is in reality vs where the mainstream media has ranked/rated him or her.

@destinypirate

19 күн бұрын

Well in that case, given the strange collusion between the mainstream media and so many channels deriding one girl from Iowa, Clark has been underrated at this point. (Geno so she has the wrong build for the wnba, so she better just hang em up.) - It's hard to believe that she developed a top five player stat line, so fast, on the worst team in the league and then people would say she's not Olympic material. (Not to mention the old and over the hill players or her unique skill set. ) Just because she couldn't carry (possibly) the worst team in history, that has zero teamwork, out of the basement people say she's a failure. One has to wonder if these people ever watched any basketball at all, was their line of logic they would have canned the too little, too weak, NCAA GOAT Steph Curry after his first year in the league he "made" the warriors go from just 29 wins down to 26 wins. - now that you think about it, with all of this wisdom and the media it's no wonder that the WNBA has been such a success.

@chhabrialowe9416

19 күн бұрын

but which media , all perspectives have been different

@destinypirate

19 күн бұрын

@@chhabrialowe9416 that's exactly the right type of question. If people want to understand how things are the way they are it requires looking under the hood. First we would need to define terms, but traditionally by media we mean the major Media or the legacy Media. Understanding the output of these would require taking a step back enough to see what the overall narrative is that they are putting out, and then to contextualize this to some degree by looking at the corporations that owned them and the initiatives of those owning corporations. Generally what we're seeing from the legacy Media is a narrative of the legacy WNBA holding some authority and this justifies things such as the quote welcome to the WNBA quote abuse or leaving Clark off of the Olympic team. Even more interesting than the generalized statements that are being put out on the headlines of ESPN or Yahoo is what happens when when are they were talking heads departs from the party line. It was interesting how the couple of lines who said contradictory things to the legacy position were immediately clamped down upon and in a very harsh way with accusations of ethical wrongdoing. Stepping away from that legacy Media and then going towards Facebook or KZread we can see that the channels which promote the legacy Media position get a lot more promotion than the channels that are either derisive or simply offering critical examination.

@SinisterAristotle

19 күн бұрын

@@destinypirate RELAX. lol she’s closer to Trae Young than Steph Curry. Steph has more of mid-range and knows how to play without the ball. Trae and CC look like lost puppies without the ball-offense killers

@SinisterAristotle

19 күн бұрын

I think a good measure of expectations is the betting markets because this reflects people actually putting money on the line rather than just blowing hot air. She was 3rd for MVP in the betting markets. She’s not even close to that. Her numbers aren’t reflective of that, her team record isn’t, and to the extent her numbers are decent, her numbers are more like Bradley Beal on the Wizards or Trae Young-HIGH USAGE players with INFLATED STATS who are liabilities on defense and don’t translate to WINNING. On this basis, she’s OVERRATED.

She gets more coverage than any other player. I assume that every team sees her as THE BEST player in the league.

@davidbodie544

19 күн бұрын

At least, the most feared!

@TaiyouArt

19 күн бұрын

I saw three players close out Clark on a three point shot in the mystics game. Never seen that before

@CtFletcher-eg5zj

19 күн бұрын

Lmfao get outta here they are shutting her down and salivating when she’s on defense

@SinisterAristotle

19 күн бұрын

@@CtFletcher-eg5zj CARRINGTON has proven to be the CAITLIN CLARK-STOPPER. Completely dominated her all three games.

@SinisterAristotle

19 күн бұрын

Nah, I think other teams are smart enough to know that Indiana will bend over backwards to make sure CC has HIGH USAGE to satisfaction the fan base, even though playing through Mitchell as their #1 option has seemed to work best for them. HIGH USAGE leads to INFLATED STATS that can look like fool’s gold. Like Dantoni point guards like Nash, Harden, Lin, Bradley Beal on the Wizards, Trae Young-never leads to championships.

CC is already Top 15 in her rookie year.

CC needs a better coach. There’s talent on the Fever, but there’s no chemistry . Except for Temi and Clark ( sometimes Smith or Samuelson, it’s all off.

Fun Talk! The subtext could be: Should we apply even handed judgment to all players? If not, then when does (other) sport context come in - like team mate and opponent patters? Also, what is her game impact (unique skills, clutch)? Clark would be the 5th best on this Olympic roster If judging by her WNBA stats: 2nd in assists 10th in scoring 4th in 3 pointers 4th in steals 8th in rebounds Depending upon how you weight the stats, she's around the 5th or 6th best and while other players get easier stats on good teams, Clark is on a team that gives her zero assists, pulls zero double teams on other players can't catch passes, won't box out for rebounds, leaving her to fight dbls for her shot.

@JoChi-zd4rd

19 күн бұрын

Then you see griner on team usa, and we see Taurasi saying that there are better then CC. Like what? How is griner better?

@destinypirate

19 күн бұрын

@@JoChi-zd4rd the conversation becomes irrational if there's no specificity... Better at what, rebounding? Possibly grinder is better at rebounding yet considering Clark's rebound stats as a guard even that is arguable, defense at the rim, probably griner, but for all of the other elements l?

I feel she’s not over rated she just in a bad situation really ballin tbh look at her teammate from Iowa thriving at the Aces

She's not even playing well yet. She can shoot a lot better regardless of defense.

@eldowns379

19 күн бұрын

She doesn’t get the same looks as she did and that takes a lot to adjust to

@Rascool69

19 күн бұрын

If she gets a coach & a team that can help her facilitate her play, she's gonna start crushing the comp. She said "they woke a monster" becuz she knows what's she's capable of.

@TeamTimeRiders

18 күн бұрын

The only girl who has her back in this league is Aaliyah Boston. It’s so sad that sides has Aaliyah not guarding the post, the position she played to get to THE NUMBER ONE PICK. Caitlin is consistently double teamed and I don’t think her teammates are intentionally sabotaging, but rather that they’re all pretty terrible players on the worst team in the league.

She is a rookie still doing great. Come on. Give her a break her damn coach benchs her after bad game. I'm pissed.

Well, she's been well guarded, mostly 2-3 when she's about to shoot. If she had better teammates, she could've pass them since they would be open. Some can't even catch her beautiful pass, and then it's her turnover.

And she has no help from her team.

Preach!

It's just so sad that her teammates and Coach was thinking that even though they drafted Caitlin, the team would not change much form what they were building before Clark.

If Caitlin was in a good team she could easily have double double every night

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

Facts.

Great video young brother..... Don't let these people pollute your mind with their BS. Keep being a free thinker! 💪

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

💯💯💯 absolutely.

Sides still needs to be fired. Sides has Clark bring ball down past half court line. Pass ball the one to of the three (Wheeler. Mitchell, Boston or Smith) and they run last year's offense between them, and Cailtin gets to watch one of them throw up some sort of shot. This is all Sides.

@maryconner4394

19 күн бұрын

That's what y'all want right. For her to be a point guard. Y'all got just what u ask for. Coach had her as a shooting guard. U got to no the difference between a guard and a shooting guard. A game bring the ball down the floor to set there team up A shooting is when that guard see u is clear to make a shot. They throw ball you. Some time u even shot that ball

@lilikaramirez1848

18 күн бұрын

Agreed

You bring up a point that's missed by a lot of trolls and self-appointed gurus: Caitlin can't do everything by herself. You brought up something that really bothered me about the last game against the Sun. You mentioned sets. That whole game exhibited ineffective screens and sets; it's a wonder Caitlin got any shots off at all. In the Mystics game, I saw Caitlin running around in the post and running by a good screen from Katie Lou Samuelson, opening up just enough space to get a shot off. She did this repeatedly, and it worked. Then, the Sun game, and no effective screens. By the way, I've noticed there seems to be two types of people commenting in videos about Caitlin: 1. people enthusiastic about Caitlin and the Fever, and 2. people who get off throwing barbs and other unproductive comments in the mix from behind the shield of obscurity, which is the internet. I like listening to knowledgeable KZreadrs who make intelligent analysis and fun commentary. I know a lot of other fans do too. It's fun. Then there's this group of condescending people who have nothing better to do than to roam around and interject negative and vituperative remarks that serve no purpose other than to inflate these troll's sense of self-worth. "Oh boy, I showed them how stupid they are," is probably a common thought among these people. They add nothing to society except acrimony.

@stephengrinkley9889

19 күн бұрын

Hands down, one of the best comments I have seen on any video about a Caitlyn Clark topic. One thing I've noticed about the CC haters on topics like this is that they like to throw out a lot of straw-man arguments ("her fans said this..or her fans claim that."). When in reality, discussions like this, regardless of who the player is, is very complex and require a lot of context. For example, the haters love to point out her high turnovers as proof that she isn't all that good, but don't take into account what percentage of those turnovers are bad decisions on her part, and what percentage of those are as a result of her teammates doing things like bringing help defenders into her passing lane or just standing around and not moving to the ball to relieve her from a trap or double team.

@SinisterAristotle

18 күн бұрын

So what are legitimate criticisms of Caitlin Clark’s game in your view? I see a lot of CC fans who take any criticism at all as “toxic” rather than viewing it as good faith ANALYSIS. I started watching the WNBA finals on a whim last year but never really watched before that, got drawn in to watching women’s college basketball this past season because of CC, and have started watching WNBA games regularly. But I see some pretty big holes in Clark’s game that certain fans seem oblivious to. For these folks, the problem is always the coach, the other players, or even the “league” itself (whoever in particular that is supposed to refer to) for some tinfoil hat plot to sabotage her for whatever reason.

@destinypirate

18 күн бұрын

That trend - the trend of unwarranted negativity and vituperation - was born out of the front-runner college programs, whose fan bases (and coaches) feel entitled to win over any program they deem ''less'' - which of course meant losing to Iowa was unacceptable. So when they did lose to Iowa, look out, here came the tantrams. The problem was, since they are used to bullying and more bully ball in return as the norm, they didn't know you can't bully Iowans. Truly. We've done too much farm work, developed our culture through too many labours of endurance, and done too much wrestling, and played too much basketball, to be dissuaded or even debased from that which we value. We value providing the chance for growth. Fundamentally this is how we support our athletes. We support them win or lose - yet to be raised and coached with high expectations of character. Clark is this, in spades - doing even more than we could hope for, from any one citizen. Her humility, team spirit, and charitable focus (the moment fame came to her she wanted to share to benefit others) inspire our continued support much more than logo 3s or deep tourney runs. So this is where the rub comes in. Those entitled fans, who were offended by Caitlin's success, by her way, by her Iowan'ness, wouldn't let up on Caitlin, they still haven't... and we are not going to give up supporting her. They've never met a fan base like ours. We aren't going to just meet their barbs with barbs - we're going to be right beside Clark as she pushes for higher standards. The counter to the Clark Wave wasn't born just of the monopoly programs' fans, but also of their coaches and players. - I've never seen so many adults (coaches) go to low, lying, spiteful angles just to try and diminish a player (and program) that they believe should be below them, and boy did they get triggered when someone innocently began talking about college GOAT status for Clark. We recognized Clark in the spirit of wonder and fun, GOAT ''crowning'' is something that we never took too seriously, I mean, it's not an official title from the Queen after all. But, we found out, for the Gatekeepers of WBB, it is that imaginary ground they are fighting for! "GOAT" was THEIR title. Or course it was all funny, until it wasn't - until they tried to shinola our amazing Coach. Now Bluder has been a brilliant leader and is an amazing person too. She didnt' fall for the baiting insults, but she took note of the foul atmosphere and coming weather. Then the WNBA came, and the real, compelling issue. Not the jealous words. Not the unwarranted insults. But the violence. The violence - towards Clark, towards women, towards athletes, in public nonetheless, sanctioned both in play and in general, came as a shock to us. To be fair, maybe we should not have been shocked. Most of us had an idea, an idea that had kept us away from the WNBA, that that league was not a healthy one (to put it gently). What we hadn't realized was that Caitlin, or that young women regularly would be targeted, physically. Nor could we have realized that she would be iced out, then subjected to a focus on supressing her talent (noted as unique in history by several retired players), and that all of this would even extend to her own team mates. How could we have imagined that when she not only has harmed none but brought great joy, inspiration, fun, and even charity to many? Clark was right - not about them having ''woke a monster'' in her as a player - but rather that a sleeping giant has been awoken, a giant who is all those who look over her. Despite those stawmen (that Stephen notes), we aren't too concerned about wins & losses. While we do hold a belief that her talent will prevail, eventually, our concern is that she have a chance at fair play. Yet our greater focus now is on her well-being. We don't abide by bullies, we don't accept the violence, nor the abject support of it. We recognize that the WNBA is full of illness, institionalized abuse - making it a league where each new generation gains acceptance through being subject to abuse and then perpetuating abuse upon the next generation. Clark will break this. She already is bending it, by holding herself up, higher - She's not speaking of it, even while in the midst of the fray as she is. Rather she continues foward, unbending from her purpose. On the contrary, she will reach out to the next generation positively (she already offered mentorship to Juju, although it remains to be seen if Juju feels free to accept this offer), and Clark will not do this alone. The support she has from her family, her alma mater, and the greater Iowa community has always been the groundswell that she can draw upon. She has our support unwavering. She understands that 'all of this' is bigger than her now. When she signs autographs for countless little girls, her wish for them is that they can have experiece like her own in Iowa - one of support, organic growth, inspiring expression of talent. She does not want them to experience something like this iteration of the WNBA. Clark is going to break it. She is going to break the WNBA, as it is. They know this. Well, they see the possibility of her being the spike that splits the facade. (Whereas we, giant together needs must, swing the hammer behind Clark). Their fear of her Immediacy is precicely why they kept her off of the Olympic team. It's not jealousy. It's not to claim the spotlight. It's their fear of her, and the immense gravity behind her. The gig is up. The self-serving, at the expense of others (the many women who did not reap benefits), of the wbb gate keepers is coming to an end. If Clark had gone to the Olympics, she would have seized the torch. Rather, the people of the world would have placed the torch within her hands. Even if she only played 5 minutes per game, the world stage would have seen that the moment was becoming hers, becoming the era of a new type of player - of a new type of person for the women's basketball. So yes, for some of the trolls this is just an opportunity to vent some itch held against a '''type'' of person. For others they've come to find a new avenue for their hate-commenting habit. Some are genuinely confused, not knowing a true and supportive fan from a troll, nor that a deeper narratives now compels an overdue reckoning. This won't end up being about Clark, valiant messenger though she may be. She knows it's about those girls who look towards her example. It is also about the many other WNBA players, the silent majority, whose good nature has been overidden, exploited. I can't tell you how shocked I was to see, today, a most visible organization protagonize wanton violence against women (even if between women). The level of injuries, essentially forced retirements, and notoriety from the WNBA outstrips all other leagues. Apparently it was the cover of the ignominy that allowed such a distorted system to continue. But now the cover has been lifted. Our hope is that the repairs won't be too costly.

@christopheryochum3602

18 күн бұрын

@@destinypirate I've previously been besmirched regarding extensive comments I've made on some KZread channels; too long ... shut up! I always try to absorb myriad viewpoints and facts before I comment. Sometimes I'm privy to research on a topic, so I enjoy presenting it, in case another commenter might find it useful or, even, fun. That's all. Now, I thought I've given some epic comments before, but this was a beautifully written treatise; I teared up. Wonderful comment, and, as an aside, there were multiple multi-syllabic adjectives AND punctuation! :) Definitely a singular work! Really made my day to read this!

@outsidethegarden

5 күн бұрын

@@stephengrinkley9889 and when Carter does videos addressing those points, they accuse him of "blaming CC's teammates" and more evidence that "CC's fans think she never does anything wrong."

These CC haters are 🤡 clowns who don't know basketball!!

I grew up a UConn women’s fan (it was a religion in CT). Diana taurasi was many of our favorite players growing up. Those UConn teams were something special and we saw her as someone to look up to. My image of her is no longer the Tom Brady of women’s basketball, but a sad washed up bitter woman desperately clinging to records she knows will be broken. Deep down they know how good Caitlin is. They’re basketball players. They know she’s on a completely different level, and the only way they can beat her is to destroy her together. Pathetic.

@CarterMomon

16 күн бұрын

Well said, that is pathetic. 💯

The WNBA plays 40 minute games so to average 15-19 points a game is very good. WNBA stats are more comparable to college, not the NBA.

Carter, quick note of correction - On my last comment, that is comparing Clark to the Olympic roster, not directly to the whole WNBA. That was not comparing Clark statistically, overall, we'd rank around 5th among the 12 (great) players penciled in for the Olympics

@CarterMomon

19 күн бұрын

That’s my mistake, but I personally think the point still stands.

@destinypirate

19 күн бұрын

@@CarterMomon Yes, it stands overall. Ranking top 5 with the Olympic team is similar for the league. She's not a ''failure'' or overrated.

@davidbodie544

19 күн бұрын

The two biggest names on the roster made the team as rookies and were thankful for the opportunity to learn from the vets. But, they are not passing on the opportunity to younger players.

@destinypirate

19 күн бұрын

@@davidbodie544 your comment right here is actually more on point to the substance of a million words flying between all of the talking heads and all of the reactions to them. The WNBA gatekeepers have closed the door on offering mentorship or even basic sportsmanship to Caitlin Clark. Also notably, some of the biggest retired WNBA Stars have made statements in support of Kaitlyn clark, these would be the same players who gave mentorship to the current hive mind of WNBA stars who are freezing Clark out.

You seem to have a very good understanding of the game…..keep up the good work

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

💯💯

Also people forget WNBA has 10min quarters so that’s 8 total less minutes a game than the NBA so is much harder WNBA players to accumulate numbers like the nba players.

Shes not overrated! They are giving her respect like shes the best player in the league! Shes the only player in the whole league who gets guarded full court, deny defense, face guarded when she doesnt even have the ball and shes like 30 feet from the basket, she gets double and triple teamed, every screen she used they do a hard double!

@rocketboosters644

19 күн бұрын

And shes still averaging 16 points 5 rebs and 6 assists.

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

Yes!!!!! 💯💯💯

You are wise beyond your years. CC is being blitzed and doubled as her team mates watch from afar. No one runs towards her to help out. Thus, a turnover … not her fault. It’s like these women never played organized basketball.

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

Thank you, and I agree entirely 💯

I am glad you said this.

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

💯

Here's another way to look at it: Let's say you have a track star (we'll call her "Runner A", for example) and you have her run the 50-year-dash. It takes her 10 seconds to complete it. I know, that's a bad stat, but bear with me here. Then let's say you have another runner (for the sake of argument we'll call her "Runner B") and she runs the 100-yard-dash in 10 seconds. Now, it would be true that Runner A finished her event with the same time as Runner B. But the distance isn't taken into consideration. Well, that's the same as comparing Angel Reese (Runner A) with Caitlin Clark (Runner B). I mean, Angel Reese scores 10 points (give or take) while Caitlin Clark scores 16---but Caitlin Clark is being double teamed and shooting from a distance while Angel is only guarded by one person--and her points typically come from rebounds underneath the basket following her own missed shot. So, there is no comparison between the two if you just want to go off of pure stats without taking other factors into the equation. And it's the same for just about every other player in the WNBA as many of them are NOT being double-teamed while Caitlin Clark is.

Is she overrated? Let's see, stop guarding her harder than anyone else in the league and see what happens. lOL!

@prettyugly

19 күн бұрын

So you are saying people should not try to give maximum effort when defending her? I thought that was the idea of sports.

Overrated means that a person's performance/output doesn't align with their outsized reputation compared to the performance and reputation of their contemporaries. She could be overrated but still good. If there was a player of equal numbers and ability to her but doesn't have that hype then that player would either be underrated or rated as should be. So overrated/underrated are relative terms that depend not on the performer but on how we react to them.

good commentary brother!!!

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

Thanks! 💯

Thank you! Finally, someone talking about this 🙏 People just want to hate because it’s CC.. which is sad.

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

Yes, it’s very sad.

It doesn't matter if she's underrated or overrated It's a business first

@alexanderjackson8389

18 күн бұрын

You're not an owner or gm..

I was hoping for a video like this, specifically addressing the arguments skeptics use when they accuse CC fans of being delusional. thank you!

The only reason ive even heard about her is that there are a lot of jealous player who are making a bunch of racist claims

Clark will be the goat eventually….im put money on that …

Well done, sir.

Sabrina putting up 9 ppg if she had the Clark defense

Its funny how you Caitlin Clark fans are suddenly trying to flip the scrip talking about did we expect her to come in the league and dominate it as a rookie. No y'all are the ones who assumed that she was. And when people said she wasn't. Ya'll called them haters. Like Diana turasi. Its just that now y'all fans of hers are the ones who are waking the hell up to the truth. That she needs to get better. And stronger to play in the W. So check yo self Partner

@destinypirate

18 күн бұрын

Is that you , PP? Partner Pre-cog, we've been looking for you. You got lost. You thought you could get out of the pool and read all the minds of all fans. But you got lost, you just read the silly words of a few fans - who like to be sensational - and this triggered you - because you lost touch with reality, thinking that sensational ideas are the real ideas that everyone shares. That's ok. You can come back to reality now. Like not trying to cover for Taurasi. Remember, it's not ''what'' you say, but ''how'' you say it, and she says it in a way that is always about elevating herself over others (she learned this from Geno, whose every comment about others is a circling of the UConn wagons). Just yesterday Taurasi talked about how, as a rookie, she was mentored by Olympians. Co-Olympians. She was so high on herself that she missed the look, when she flexed on having ''3 championships'' instead of seeing that the natural progression would be to offer Clark mentoriship.

Relax youngblood. CC will get her shot at the Olympics. Full context, Caitlin Clark started playing her most recent college season in a preseason game in October. She played into April 2024 in the final game of the WNCAA tourament. She gets drafted in the same month, and 2 weeks later she is play preseason pro ball. She never had an opportunity to even practice with women who had played intl BB together multiple times nor has she every practiced with them. Her last opportunity was the week of the final four, leaving CC choosing between her college team playing for the Natty or trying out for a team that was only looking for 1-3 players. CC is 10 months in with competitive womens basketball. The body has its limits. CC is a very good BB player and she is balling now. She needs a team build around her, then we will see her professional greatness. One day soon, Chicago vs Indiana will meet to decide who goes to the Finals. That game will be Magic and Bird all over again...two polarizing women basketball players meeting in a championship game. The future if womens basketball is in good hands. Then you have the next 3 classes in college. Expansion cant happen fast enough. These girls and women can play! CC needs rest. She knows why she didnt make the team, and she is good with it. Her day will come.

Overrated By Casual Fans and Media.. Underrated By Casual Haters and Fellow Athletes.

Underrated. Not that she doesn’t have things to learn to improve her game. With the teammates she has it won’t happen as they mediocre at best and the coach is no better. This team has been at the bottom for years. Watched another commentator and he said while the mystics are last, they haven’t lost by much. Even if you half Clark’s points per game, the mystics would be a .500 average team I sense she will be asking to be traded. The fever aren’t going to be able to recruit players to join.

@CarterMomon

16 күн бұрын

I agree with you. You make sound points.

She's number 2 in clutch stats, also.

Caitlin Clark has massive flaws in her game. 1) She’s too predictable (if she’s going left, she’s chucking up a 3; if she’s going right, she’s trying to drive). 2. She doesn’t have the athleticism or handles to get off her shot or drive to the cup effectively against better defenders. 3) Her efficiency hasn’t translated in the WNBA against better defenders. 4) Turnovers are high. 5) She never learned to play off the ball because she played in Trae Young / Dantoni type offenses that don’t lead to championships). 5) Her defense is horrific. Etc

@marceybull

19 күн бұрын

Did you even listen to the video as you ignored all his context to what you posted … Also, not playing on stacked team hurts winning championships- even after doing it for two years in a row … And that non stacked team beat all three of the last three champions in the past two years - UConn, LSU, and South Carolina…

@SinisterAristotle

19 күн бұрын

@@marceybull I was adding additional context and analysis. This dude could have used the same methodology to say Bradley Beal was a top 10 player averaging 30 and leading the NBA in scoring with the Wizards. Also, the pro level is a completely different beast from college. In college, there’s maybe one or two all Americans on a team if that. In the pros, everyone is an all American.

@prettyugly

19 күн бұрын

Spot on.

Naphessa Collier is a forward.

Let’s not forget how many times they blitz her I have never seen someone in the WNBA gets blitz or double team or triple team more than CC

@CarterMomon

12 күн бұрын

Very true.

She's a rookie. I didn't expect her to come in and average 35 point a game and shoot lights out. She'll be fine next year after some time off.

That's why they call it hype. You have to remember that all the players on Team USA also play defense and I mean straight-up in your face defense. CC gets her steals and blocks doubling from the weak-side. Hey, she's good at it but not as a straight up defender. That's why the Fever take her out when they need a stop. Can you name another superstar who's pulled at the end of a possible close game when the opposing team has the ball? No one on Team USA is I assure you. Nepheesa Collier ( Khal-eyer) is a center/forward. The guard for the Lynx is Kayla Mcbride, She didn't make the Olympics either. Here are her stats: 33.1 mpg, 17.8 ppg, 3 rebs, 3,8 assists, 49. 8 fg% 51.7% from 3( she also leads the league in 3's made) and shoots 92.1% from the free throw line. Turnovers per game: 1.4. Those are some impressive numbers. Oh, and 2 turnovers more per game for an individual player is a lot. Turnovers and blocks are predominately in the low single digits for players. Would you say someone averaging 3 blocks a game isn't that much better than another who averages one? If all the Fever starters averaged 5 a game that would be 25 not counting the bench. What team can be expected to win with that?

@shf4592

19 күн бұрын

McBride is really good! But she does benefit from a great offense, with a lot of motion (NBA style is how Becky Hammon described it). The Fever’s offense is terrible, they just stand around with half-ass screens, but yeah, McBride is really good and should’ve been on the team before a few of the others. Product of Notre Dame which has quite a few good players in the W.

@outsidethegarden

5 күн бұрын

she's a rookie. if your point is that she's got a lot to learn, no question. so is "over-rated" about people hyping her unrealistically? or just enthusiastic about her potential, and her ability to perform even in her rookie year? two different points of view.

Looking at and judging the players in the WNBA, I’d say she was an average player. Overrated only by her fanatics.

@destinypirate

18 күн бұрын

The average WNBA player scores about 8 points with 2.5 rebounds and 1.9 assists.

Look at everything that CC has done since beginning of year with little team support and the hate from other teams. If she had no skill, why is she double and tripled team? Why is she guarded full court? Teams know if we stop Caitlin from scoring no body else on Fever is going to beat us.

NBA players play 48 minutes. Napheesa collier is a power forward

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

That’s crazy. She’s only 6’1, Caitlin is 6’… I didn’t realize how tall CC is.

Another interesting topic: What makes a Star? Do a comparative analysis of other stars - Tiger, Jordan, McGregor, Serena, etc. Analyze why she is a bigger star than other WNBA players (hint: The WNBA has no positive traction in the zeitgeist. Stars must be built in college....)

Not overrated but low-key overhyped. The way her fans talked about her genuinely had me thinking they really thought she would dominate. If u watched her college game u can def see her defensive flaws and there’s where I thought she would def struggle the most but I still thought she would average at least 15 ppg at the minimum just cuz she really is talented. I def think she is a generational talent but everybody struggles when they first enter the wnba. I really do think she’s doing amazing as a rookie relative to like everybody else but I feel like her fans low-key set her for failure cuz they made it seem like she was gonna dominate calling her the best wnba player before she even played a full season

No matter what, this will end badly.

Ionescu and Jewel Lloyd don't get nearly the defensive pressure that Caitlin gets.

I’m a fan of cc but did u c that last game. Dejionai looked her up good

This guy said only averaging 3 turnovers more….ONLY! 😂 Man I’m gone.

@Tim_Dunkin

19 күн бұрын

Right 3 more, whwn it's players in the league not averaging 3 period 🤣.

You right bro I was expecting the wnba to have at least 30% of the talent as the nba but tbh they all are actually garbage no disrespect

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

I’m with you. The league is actually garbage.

everybody you COMPARED catlin to ....Are people Catlin's fans said she was BETTER THAN !!!

@lynkerk320

19 күн бұрын

I really wonder what percentage of people/fans of Caitlin are like that. Probably a small percentage. Did they come out and just say that about other player or were haters beating down on Caitlin (and they do) and new fans were just defending Caitlin.

Yes. She is. She has not come into the league and dominated all the so called bad and boring players that her fanbase said she would. Shes a decent player, but not an amazing one, yet. So far shes overrated at the pro level. Sabrina Ionesco does everything Caitlin does, but better.

Nobody who called her overrated that she was coming in goat. You made a strayman just to burn it. Smh

Where did you buy yours micro phone

@CarterMomon

12 күн бұрын

I got it at a garage sale recently! It’s the Rode Procaster and it works well.

@Mangaking35

12 күн бұрын

@@CarterMomon thanks

🤌🤌

I hate her game man and over rated. She over shoots, don't tell me she doesn't. - Even in college she was only 35% from 3 and she shot it 1,263 times. Thats why she lost in the finals. Most of those shots are circus shots that are contested. She has that James Harden mentality.. She's throwing team mates under the bus when she fucks up. Gabbie Marshall on her college team was the better shooter at 47 % in the tournement.

@outsidethegarden

5 күн бұрын

look at her assist stats.

Well I would say that as far as being the face of the wnba, yea, she's overrated. That should go to A'ja Wilson. When DT said that she would have to adjust to the next level, she was called a hater. Face it, her fans and the media overrated her.

@ben-schulman

19 күн бұрын

Like Marsellus Wallace told Butch, "...if you were gonna make it, you would have made it before now." A'ja Wilson had 6 years to do that and didn't. Nobody knew who she was until Clark brought the attention to the League. Some may have had unrealistic expectations of what Clark could do from the jump, but there's a reason for hype and it ain't about race, gender, or sexual orientation. Even with the constant face guarding and double teaming (because coaches know how dangerous she is), she's still competing at the WNBA's highest level. Before the end of this season, Clark will torch some team for 40.

@marceybull

19 күн бұрын

DT’s stats right now are similar to this rook’s stats

@stephengrinkley9889

19 күн бұрын

​@@ben-schulmanPreach!

@prettyugly

19 күн бұрын

​@@ben-schulman Nobody knew who she was until Clark brought attention to the league, but the woman has a statue outside of her College, put up in 2021, 3 years after she was drafted. There are only 2 WNBA jerseys you can buy in the UK, hers and Sabrina's, and it's been that way for at least 4 years now. But continue....

@SinisterAristotle

19 күн бұрын

@@marceybull HIGH USAGE tends to lead to INFLATED STATS. Look at every Mike D’antoni point guard like Harden, Lin, Bradley Beal on the Wizards, Trae Young, etc. Doesn’t lead to winning championships but a lot of empty stats, sure.

She definitely overrated they say she the goat

@CarterMomon

16 күн бұрын

I agree with you: that’s if they’re saying she’s the goat.

I wouldnt call her overrated just HIGHLY inconsistent. That inconsistency is why she shouldn't be on the Olympic team. Incosistency shows when comfortability is lacking. So to not be completely acclomated to the WNBA to then transition midseason to a completely different style of play would be illogical. I don't care about names I care about hooping. They put the best most experienced cohesive team together. That should always be #1 priority when it comes to the Olympics

@davidbodie544

19 күн бұрын

One team member has only played 1 game this year. Another still is recovering from injuries. And, you bat as part of a lineup: she plays on the worst team in the league with the worst coach and she draws more defensive pressure than anyone in the league.

@Tim_Dunkin

19 күн бұрын

@@davidbodie544 That's all fine & dandy that doesn't address anything about the experience aspect, which those players have an abundance of in Euro league & FIBA. Not to mention ppl complained that she had too many games in a short span & against too good of teams, so for ppl to have that logic & be mad she has a month off instead of 10 more games in the middle of the season is also illogical. She went from the NCAA season to the draft then the WNBA all in a month, she needs a break, she said it herself. Also ppl complain about the team (that had just a 2-3wk training camp btw), that month will be a perfect time for them to get in the lab & work out some kinks. CC doesn't need to be a part of everything & everything that doesn't go her way isn't an attack on her.

@SinisterAristotle

19 күн бұрын

@@davidbodie544 Carrington (the Caitlin Clark-stopper) or Skylar Diggins are better fits tbh

@davidbodie544

19 күн бұрын

@@SinisterAristotle Carrington is an excellent defender but Clark does a bit more. Drop Taurasi and the injured girl and take both.

@harveycminusmansfiel

19 күн бұрын

@@davidbodie544 Nah, I'm not convinced Clark can play off ball and with other great players. At Iowa, she had the 2nd highest usage rate in women's college basketball. She has only proven to be effective in Mike D'antoni offenses that must bend over backwards to give her the ball. Team USA is built around more of a Celtics / Spurs / Warriors offense of perpetual motion ball movement. It's also how the Team USA Coach Cheryl Reeve designed her Lynx offense.

5 TOs is a lot

You know exactly why we say she's overrated. Because when her cult says she's the goat and when we disagree they say we're hating. She only gets trapped because she constantly calls for screens. She doesn't really score at all without them. If you can't score on your own that says it all . I'll tell one more thing, the cult only wants to hear good things about her. So if you're being fake just to please them you better just keep it up. Because as soon as you say something bad about her they don't like, they're gonna unsub from you. That goes for all of the channels .

@davidbodie544

19 күн бұрын

What CULT are you talking about? Being a fan is NOT being a member of a cult!

@rarerock5020

19 күн бұрын

@davidbodie544 some are fans but some are just weird. If that doesn't apply to you then I'm not talking about you.

@destinypirate

18 күн бұрын

@@rarerock5020 How many is some?

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

Thanks for the word of advice… But I’ve been speaking my mind the whole time, and I will continue.

@outsidethegarden

5 күн бұрын

@@rarerock5020 I guess I'm weird. I hate the comments from trolls insisting that CC isn't any good, or that her turnovers prove she isn't any good, or that she does this or doesn't do that, without looking at WHY she might not be performing as well as some people expected. but I also want her to improve, because I believe (based on what she and coach Bluder accomplished at Iowa) that she wants the whole team to do well. so yes, I want her to learn how to pass under more pressure than she's used to (and I want her teammates to learn how to handle her passes, and expect her passes). I want her to learn defense. I want her to develop a mid-range shot, and shoot from both sides. I want her to learn to control her temper better, when people get in her face. I want her to realize her potential. yeah, I guess I"m weird. sorry.

This is very easy analysis. Right before the season, Caitlin Clark was 3rd (yes 3rd) in MVP voting odds in the betting markets behind Wilson and Stewart. This means people were actually betting money and not just blowing smoke. Is she the 3rd best player in the WNBA? Not by a long shot. Hence, she is overrated. Geno Auriema made a similar point about certain delusional CC fans.

@lynkerk320

19 күн бұрын

There is also delusional denial haters that criticize and troll platforms.

@Calidastas

19 күн бұрын

Auriema is a salty old man throwing shade on CC because she helped drop his huskies in the final four. Dude actually said Paige Buecker’s game would translate better than CC because “she’s’ a distributor”. Meanwhile CC average over double the number of assists of PB in college and currently sits 4th in the WNBA in assists. Man made a couple of good points about her having a target on her back but his other points were unhinged.

@SinisterAristotle

19 күн бұрын

@@Calidastas I thought his points about i) her problems with handling physicality and ii) delusional fans thinking and betting that she’s a top 3 player were very apt. He could have also added that she only tends to thrive in situations where the team drops everything and has her the focus of attention, which results in HIGH USAGE RATES and INFLATED STATS (eg, like Mike Dantoni type offenses with Harden, Lin, Trae Young, etc) but that never leads to championships. Paige Bueckers will probably translate to the WNBA better because she plays in a Warriors / Spurs / Celtics style system where the ball never stops moving and everyone knows how to play off the ball. Paige already has the complete game, has a mid-range, is also a much much better defender.

@SinisterAristotle

19 күн бұрын

@@lynkerk320 if that is meant to imply my comment qualifies as a troll comment, I respectfully disagree. I just value ANALYSIS over WISHFUL THINKING. I also value MERITOCRACY. But that’s just me.

@lynkerk320

18 күн бұрын

@@SinisterAristotle , I wasn’t implying you were a troll. A lot media hype. Where did all the new fans come from? ….the media hype.

She’s overrated because of what the media has been saying

Air ball from 3 feet away

She only overrated when compared to the delusional fans. She was supposed to take over the league and no player was gonna stop her and whoopy whoop.

@lynkerk320

19 күн бұрын

I know not one fan that said that. The media hyped her up a lot.

@goodjobb24

19 күн бұрын

Cc said she's struggling that wasn't the expectation for her. Overrated. Simple logic 👍

@lynkerk320

19 күн бұрын

Really!?! I have never met a fan like that. Perhaps, that is a false hyped up narrative from the media.

@SinisterAristotle

19 күн бұрын

@@lynkerk320 she was #3 for MVP in the betting markets. People were betting money on her to be better than she is. Lmao

@lynkerk320

18 күн бұрын

@@SinisterAristotle , she did MVP for May.

This dude would probably say Bradley Beal was a top 10 players while on the Wizards, thankfully, we’ve learned better from his time on the Suns. We’ve learned that HIGH USAGE RATE players can INFLATE STATS and not be a winning player

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

I probably wouldn’t say that. But ok.

Just stop - it is really too much. You will all be dancing on her grave. Clark needs to get off the Fever and out of the WNBA.

No

Her stats don’t match the media hype when there’s players like Kmac and Aja in the league. She’s wayyyyy overrated

You won't grow your channel with obvious click bate based on what Reese fans say.

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

Well, we are steadily growing.

She is not overrated but you are😅

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

Ok.

And why was she benched? She's not that good. The numbers say one thing, but it's the eye test. You can't see why her +/- was -30. No defense at all, turnovers in crucial moments, no ball handling or the ability to blow by defenders. She looks weak, scared and fragile out there. She's overrated kid..

@abphoto

19 күн бұрын

Listen to the video , jumping to conclusion ??

@SinisterAristotle

19 күн бұрын

@@abphoto Carrington is the Caitlin-Clark stopper. Completely dominated her on offense and defense in every game they’ve played. She a bad lady. Respect

@iubitnunes

18 күн бұрын

​@@SinisterAristotle respect to her. Of course. But you weren't in yt comment sections bragging about her defense since 2021 or even during her time in Baylor were you!? At least not until she stopped clark which she did. Be honest.

@SinisterAristotle

18 күн бұрын

@@iubitnunes no, I started watching regular season WNBA games because of Caitlin Clark and the other rookies. I consider myself a Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese fan (love Angel’s competitive spirit-an underdog and overachiever given her limited offensive skills but still ACCOMPLISHES a lot, which is what matters). You’re right. I had never heard of Carrington before, but watching now and ASSESSING the BASKETBALL has allowed me to appreciate the skill level and tenacity of other players besides the rookies who initially drew me in. It’s just BASKETBALL ANALYSIS for me. It’s nothing personal.

2 or 3 more turnovers is a big difference. Cant win a game if your point guard losing the ball. The media and fans expected her to change the culture of Indiana fever but instead it looks like the same team last yr. Not a dent. Great players including rookies adjust to the defense after 1st or 2nd time dealing with it ( Overrated) Youre a terrible analysis

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

Ok.

@outsidethegarden

5 күн бұрын

he actually addressed your points. you have no idea whether he's a terrible analyst -- you evidently haven't listened to his analysis.

Clarks not in the top 25 in the league. (Google )Everyone agrees that she's good but Naawww Offense is good but ranked #59 out of all 60 guards on defense. So bad it knocked her right out the top 25. Sorry lil bro come back next year when she's earned something.

@lynkerk320

19 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

This guy doesn’t know basketball acting like 5 TO a game isn’t a big difference from 2 lol

@iubitnunes

18 күн бұрын

Bro put it in perspective for you & you still refused to understand it. That TO difference is small only if you realise that every team's defensive gameplan is to stop her. For Jewel Loyd, Sabrina, etc no teams defend em like Caitlin.

She scores 30 against the worse team in the league , but scores 10 against the BEST TEAM. She's over rated if she's not good against GOOD TEAMS

@CarterMomon

18 күн бұрын

She’s also only played 15 games? Maybe let her play against the good teams a few more times before making any strong conclusions.

@annajordan243

18 күн бұрын

@@CarterMomon If you want to paint somebody as the FACE OF THE LEAGUE So important that she needs to be on a olympic team immediately !!!! People don't want to hear excuses like "it's only been 15 games"

@annajordan243

18 күн бұрын

@@CarterMomon Okay , so now it's been 16 games . And she only scored 7 points AGAIN tonight ...

Why didn’t you include turnover numbers and team records? Lmao Bias by omission bro

@lynkerk320

19 күн бұрын

He did include turnovers

@goodjobb24

19 күн бұрын

He included the turnovers but he sure did downplay the turnovers like it's not a big deal😂 bias

@outsidethegarden

5 күн бұрын

@@goodjobb24 no, he gave a reasonable explanation for them, including a prediction of future performance. judge him for that once you see what happens.

She's OVER RATED based on how good HER CULT SAID she was . I've heard CATLIN supports call her THE GOAT. !!!! I heard CATLIN supporters claim that she would be MVP her first season in the WNBA ..........

@lynkerk320

19 күн бұрын

Media hyped her who hyped the expectations of new fans of Caitlin.

Yea nice try don’t flip the narrative ,her fans said she was the goat already and the best player in womens basketball it is literally on record, you can look it up.. she’s overrated because they thought she was going to come in and dominate the game after losing two national championships where she was locked down.. as of now she’s shooting 37 Percent and 30 something from three so from what her fans claim she is yea she’s overrated.. in terms of basketball she’s a good rookie.

@SinisterAristotle

19 күн бұрын

True, this is an example of CC fans gaslighting everybody. PROOF = the outrage at Taurasi’s thesis that Clark would need time to improve and adapt to the higher level of play in the WNBA, which Clark ended up outright confirming, Those same folks are either delusional or liars or both lmao

@iubitnunes

18 күн бұрын

​@@SinisterAristotlebro don't be a liar like you say other people are. You know the way DT said it is different from how Steph, Bron or KD woulda talked about what Welby needs to learn. Say I'm lying!? She was literally laughing while saying all that practically displaying ridicule. Am I lying!?

@SinisterAristotle

18 күн бұрын

@@iubitnunes she’s a veteran and competitor who KNOWS and has 1st hand experience at the SKILL GAP between college and the pros. The SUBSTANTIVE CONTENT of her point was valid and has been proven to be correct.

@iubitnunes

18 күн бұрын

@@SinisterAristotle guess what, you've not said I'm lying. no body says she wasn't right. Every rookie goes through that in every sport. But you saw her express ridicule, bro she was straight laughing at Caitlin. LeBron doesn't do that when talking about rookies. Nor does Steph, gianiss, or KD. They don't mock rookies & claim oh but I was speaking facts. & you know am not lying. That was spite or jealousy it was so clear.

@SinisterAristotle

18 күн бұрын

@@iubitnunes you have to be kidding me if you think at least some CC fans were lambasting Taurasi over the substance of the comments (ie, the ones who bet her 3rd in MVP voting). The reason Lebron and KD don’t do that either is rookies is that the EXPECTATIONS for rookies in the NBA are a lot MORE REASONABLE. We all expected Wemby to be great, but definitely not better (immediately) than the top players nor an MVP candidate. The (UN)REASONABLENESS of EXPECTATIONS is what Taurasi was addressing, which she was proven right on. Some folks were DELUSIONAL (evidence = 3rd in MVP betting).

The analytics say otherwise kiddo!!! Any Clark stan... we can debate it and I promise I win quickly!!!

@CarterMomon

12 күн бұрын

Your username is blasphemy. Repent and turn to Jesus.

@thewisegod5413

12 күн бұрын

@@CarterMomon But on this topic you are wrong and the fact that you didn't speak on it says it all!!

@CarterMomon

12 күн бұрын

As a wise man once said, if a man says he’ll beat you in a debate very quickly, believe him and move along.

truly, underrated or overrated doesnt matter, we love her because she is a decent well mannered classy player. nothing bad to say about anyone and always looking at the positive things of the game...she puts butts in the babsketball seats and people pay HEFTILY to see her play to be entertained...none of the girls/lesbians/ pot crack head players had done this 🤣🤣🤣

@SinisterAristotle

18 күн бұрын

Given your comment, is there a straight (and white) privilege to fame and money? Which WNBA players are or were crackheads specifically (like specific names)?

@AI_chatbotSydney

18 күн бұрын

@@SinisterAristotle for one, your father is a dictator. 2. you are not from the divided states of america so i say just give your 2 cents in this topic and be done with it 3. you have no right to ask me question when you are not caucasian and YOU are ASIAN 🤣🤣🤣