I think what I find most troubling about his preaching style is he just is constantly shooting from the hip. He makes tons of statements that I could forgive a layman for misunderstanding pretty easily, but as a pastor who is studying the text for hours, is much much more troubling. the lack of clarity he brings to very clear biblical texts is, concerning to say the least.

@wild7goose

15 күн бұрын

I'm afraid Stanley does the opposite of shooting from the hip. He is wildly known in preaching world as one standards to develop communication skills. Every one of his sermons follows a specific pattern in order - Me, We, God, You, We. You can learn about it in his book - Communicating for A Change. The pastor I served under is a big fan of Stanley. I am glad I read the book, but I fundamentally disagree with Stanley on numerous things, including how to communicate the Word of God. Mr. Stanley says everything he does on a Sunday morning from a well prepared and written outline.

@legomegaman101

15 күн бұрын

@wild7goose I appreciate the reply. Man that's wild.

Having a form of Godliness but denying the power thereof

I can remember at least one example of Jesus planning an obstacle in front of one young man claiming to want to follow Him...?

Andy’s circular reasoning astonishes. How in the world do I even know what Jesus my Savior has said apart from the written scriptures?

Andy Stanley is the preaching version of The Chosen. Like, he literally CANNOT say exactly what the Bible says. Every word he has to put a twist on it. It's really disgusting.

@ChumPreacher

19 күн бұрын

Absolutely!!!!

@ashleywaliczek3118

18 күн бұрын

I get what you're saying, but to compare a TV show that is intended to be creative and "between-the-lines" (whether you agree with that approach or not) to a pastor standing in the pulpit of a church filled to the brim with people who are there to hear the actual Spirit-filled teaching of the Word of God is really not valid. What Andy Stanley is doing is certainly more diabolical and damaging - challenging the authority of Scripture from the pulpit, cleverly twisting what it says, and then accusing anyone who would challenge his interpretation as exclusionary and disconnected from the mission of Jesus...it's horrendous. If we think we're getting our full understanding of the Lord Jesus from a show, that error is on us--but when we reasonably expect to hear preaching that shapes our understanding of Jesus from local church leadership and get only confusion and compromise, that error is on the leader and his lack of submission to God's Word. Period.

@ChumPreacher

18 күн бұрын

@@ashleywaliczek3118 ok...

@dubyag4124

17 күн бұрын

@@ashleywaliczek3118 I absolutely agree, that's why I said "disgusting". I guess the comparison was more on the hearer's side: the same crowd enjoys both types of "biblical" teaching -- manipulative and meant to guide you toward what the "teacher" wants you to believe, not the Bible.

@MarkMay-cr6bv

17 күн бұрын

@@ashleywaliczek3118 I would argue the opposite. One would assume most people sitting in pews at least believe they are already Christian, therefore it is upon them to read their bibles and test the spirits (including what they hear from their pastor). In other words, if they sit in the pews or chairs and believe everything they are told and do not check it against scrpture they must accept much of the responsibility. There are a lot of non-Christians sitting at home who are curious about Christianity and do not have the tools or knowledge to discern truth from error. Those people are taking TV shows like The Chosen as Gospel, which leads them into error before they even choose or set foot in a church. In many cases they may see or believe things in the show that turn them off from ever pursuing Christianity or attending church even once. I would say the TV show is in some ways even more dangeorus than a bad pastor, at least to the lost.

He's leading so many people astray.😔

@user-gs1bo9oh9u

16 күн бұрын

No he isn't no one is being led astray by him He is God's judgement for ppl who do t want God

@BobbiMac08

16 күн бұрын

@user-gs1bo9oh9u Semantics. If he is God's judgment, he is still leading people astray. A lot of them DO want God, but Hinn is giving them a false version.

Stanley wholly misunderstands the purpose of the Church. In his mind apparently it is a gathering of people that kinda, sort of, share the same worldview. Just like the Word, the Church is for the equipping and building up of the Body. It is not a weekly TedTalk for tickling ears

@ncbeachbumintx

17 күн бұрын

I literally just told my friend that this sounds more like a Ted Talk than a sermon.. 😂

I use to go to Northpoint and there is no Bible reading class. When I finally read the Bible, as unskilled as I was, it is obvious Andy’s retelling of scripture is the very loophole he started talking about in the beginning of the sermon . Also the disciples didn’t go because Jesus told them to wait until He sent the promised one Luke 24:49

I identify as Bible affirming

That sermon was a TEDTalk not a sermon, what a hot mess. Appreciate your sermon review.

I’m confused, he said it’s a mistake to be biblical and church folks should try to be Christlike. How do you separate the two? Where do you read about Christlikeness if not the Bible?? He thinks he’s groundbreaking but actually holds no water at all.

Has Andy forgotten the fact that the concept of being Christlike can only be ascertained by Scripture itself? Knowledge of Christ and Christlike-ness was brought to us courtesy of said Bible. So saying you need to focus on being Christlike, but not on being Biblical is like sawing off the very branch you're sitting on. It's head scratchingly illogical.

Regarding how we got the Bible : 1. Inspiration / Inscripturation 2. Canonization (The Church does NOT give the Bible its authority) 3. Transmission 4. Translation

1:00:40 Something I immediately noticed when Andy Stanley was trying to show how the Gentiles thought the laws were crazy, but then God said the nations would see the laws and go, "wow this God is a just God and a personal God that loves His people" (See Deuteronomy 4)

That’s a huge accusation- the Apostles couldn’t handle the word rightly in that they “mixed and matched the covenants “ - What 😬

He's literally outing himself. It's brilliant.

I feel betrayed having served and giving to one of his churches for a few years.

@wadelindsey9707

15 күн бұрын

Praise God that the Holy Spirit has revealed truth to you - I know many people who have listened to him and served their organization and see nothing wrong with his teaching.

Honestly, I try not to get angry, but Andy is such an abuser of scripture that the blood is in my ears

So many are being deceived listening to Andy. Soooo many.

@seqcoreesball2776

18 күн бұрын

😢

Great video btw! However it’s quite depressing to see how this comment section is speaking about Andy Stanley. Even if you disagree with the guy there are honorable and respectful ways to go about critiquing him. Especially as Christians, we have to hold ourselves to a higher standard and have more decorum in this comment section, as well as any space we enter.

@davidprice9792

12 күн бұрын

Really, Andy is twisting scripture so bad and is teaching false doctrine. It is sad to see and hear. I loved listening to Andy in the 1990s. But when he told that man that he had to divorce his wife so he wouldn’t be in good old adultery. And the man is in a relationship with another man. That is so far from the Bible. Andy is leading people away from God.

I can't believe I attended his churches for years. It was devastating when he left First Baptist. I stuck with him during the early North Point years until 2006 or so when he started going off the deep end.

Sidenote: @1:08:52- Great stillshot of Andy! 😆

I am so glad you are dealing with this.

There is so much to say to this. First, thank you for doing this ministry. It is so absolutely necessary. Andy lets you know right from the beginning that he can twist scripture. And then he does. I wanted to respond to one thing in particular. Peter was on his roof after fifteen years. This is correct. But... At this time, he has preached the gospel in Jerusalem (which he was commanded and then he obeyed), he has preached the gospel in Judea (that is actually where he is right now and was in with Tabitha in Joppa), and he has been to Samaria to preach the gospel with John and Phillip. So, after fifteen years Peter is on phase 3 of Jesus' 4 phase commission. Then he goes to Cornelius (who is phase 4).

@bibliotecaria2

8 күн бұрын

Excellent point. I don’t think them taking 15 years to get to the Gentiles is necessarily a bad thing. Yes, they needed a vision to get them moving, but does he seriously think that God didn’t plan this from the beginning? He was setting Peter up to be the one who can start this change.

‘They just keep bringing you back …’

They were kicked out for going against the Bible. Ugh again

I have never heard somebody say so many wrong things with so much confidence. Andy Stanley might be the most dangerous preacher out there now.

Any Pastor that refers to his 'calling' as an 'industry' should be immediately dismissed 😡

@penendo7371

14 күн бұрын

Industry: a particular form or branch of economic or commercial activity. Just means field or profession.

You look like a young Ray Ramano😍

I identified with the division in family comments you made. My family still attends Andy's church and they know better. They raised me in a church that taught scripture, so I knew when Andy was off-target. His ministry is toxic, yet they tolerate it. Also, Andy is conservative??? I guess he has his own definition of what that word means.

My daughter moved to Atlanta and attended Emory U. I felt this was candy and I was right.

Here's what's wrong, aside from your correct observations @HonestYouthPastor. His telling of Cornelius and Peter is so wrong, which you pointed out. First, he definitely didn't read the text nor exegete it correctly. He forgot that God is the one in control and brought Peter to Joppa (modern-day Jaffa) to raise Tabitha (Dorcas) back to life (Acts 9:36-42). He's painting Peter to be like, I'm just chilling, not doing the Lord's work, when Luke is showing us that he is. Also, how does Andy know this was 15 years after the resurrection? If you follow any of the timelines in Acts and the NT Letters, you might come up with less than ten years. It is sad because I used to be a big fan of Andy Stanley. Then, I went to seminary and became a pastor and realized he was not what he seemed to be. No hate to him, I think there are way better teachers out there for people to listen and learn from, mainly it should be with their home church, first.

@ThatBeardedPastorDude

14 күн бұрын

Also, this feels like a petty sermon from a pastor who has been "hurt" by the "Church," and this is his retaliation for it.

The only reason we know Jesus has all authority is because the Bible says so. Andy twists logic up in such a knot he doesn’t even know what he is saying

Hey there! Appreciate the channel. If you have time, Please do a review on my pastor Ben Stuart’s latest sermon June 30th.. passion city DC. Thanks man hope you’re well

@penendo7371

14 күн бұрын

I would like to listen to it too, but I don’t see a sermon for June 30th

Never trust a pastor who's favorite color is pink

@southerngirl1408

17 күн бұрын

Lol

@penendo7371

14 күн бұрын

What does this even mean?

Let me answer the title question without watching your video. No.

It's interesting how many seeker-sensitive type buzzwords (i.e., "vision," "core group") he uses to describe the context of the Scriptures

you didnt put the link to how the bible came about?

@HonestYouthPastor

19 күн бұрын

Just added the book I referenced in the description with a link

❤

Andy is not among the elect. Some recoil at such a statement, but I am confident in saying that. He isn’t just straying from the truth he is unabashedly assaulting it. To understand Andy, it helps to see him as the son of a very successful businessman who saw an opportunity to make his own way in the business, but hated the product. People like him and Keller make a lot of sense if you begin to view them as people who are embarrassed by historical Christianity

If you don't stand on the inerrency of the Bible, you've got no foundation to stand upon. Andy makes me angry. As the parent of a prodigal, his pro-sin conference and lack of preaching repentance is giving so many people an inoculation against understanding the seriousness of their position with God.

Andy has too much dramatics for a simple story, I agree with you about Cornelius, I don’t think it was that hard for Peter because he was Gods follower. Glad you did this one, people need to hear this, he distorted so much

You mentioned how Andy's preaching was so different in his early years. I am sure this was when his father was still alive, but when his father passed away, he then had the freedom to reach the way he really wanted to and did.

@preacherbill

19 күн бұрын

This is an interesting observation

@yunder.

19 күн бұрын

He started going astray decades before Dr Stanley passed. I watched it happen first-hand.

@susanbender6029

18 күн бұрын

@yunder. to me, while his father was alive, it was still conservative compared to how Andy, in reality, wanted to his way of preaching.

@penendo7371

14 күн бұрын

@@susanbender6029I honestly think this is flat out wrong, Charles Stanley died in 2023. Andy Stanley wrote a whole book, “Irresistible” in 2018, which discusses basically the same ideas he is preaching in this sermon.

@susanbender6029

14 күн бұрын

@@penendo7371 Having a book and discussing his ideas/thoughts, are in a controlled environment and limited is expressing. Having it physically presented with demonstrations, etc. on a stage, are 2 different things.

The Gospel message was spread mainly through the Apostle Paul and his followers.

Stanley is not a pastor or teacher according to what the bible describes. Just give 1 Tim or 2 Tim a read. He should be marked and avoided. I'm not sure he even understands how to teach the bible at all. He is just another guy in a long line of really good speakers that preach "ted talks" with scriptures in them.

With your moniker, someone having their sermon reviewed by you should be called getting HYPed. As in "Andy Stanley just got HYPed again."

Andy has a way of creating a straw man and runs away with it. He makes a reference towards the church in general as if majority of churches don't even understand some of these things. It baffles me a lot. If he would explicitly say that the Roman Catholic or whichever church has their doctrine completely wrong then there wouldn't be a problem, but when you generalise like the way he does it becomes problematic.

Somebody needs to revoke Andy Stanley's seminary degree....

@GabrielMartinez-su8di

17 күн бұрын

He obviously didn't master theology in his Master of Theology

@wadelindsey9707

15 күн бұрын

That would be a really useful service in this day and age - a seminary saying “we no longer stand behind the authority of this person’s teaching until there’s repentance and change”

Are you a Calvinist? Where do you stand on TULIP?

@toolegittoquit_001

18 күн бұрын

I think that Michael is a Wesleyan. If that is correct, he is very likely more Arminian in his Soteriology. As for me, I’m Reformed and believe that the Doctrines of Grace are a reasonable framework to understand God’s Sovereignty .

@52:11 AS has confused Torah with Talmud. A "mixed multitude" came out of Egypt. Ruth was a Moabite. Jesus/Yeshua spoke with a Samaritan woman. Yes, we can be hard-headed and hard-hearted. Continuing on, AS doesn't understand the difference between the commandments of God and the commandments of men.

He says there are no losers but actually the Bible does say that there will be people who say they are believers and are not, they are deceived so…we must be awake to this and pay attention and being democrat and supporting such things is one way not the only way but one way.

Being Biblical, the Bible is the LOGOS, and the LOGOS came to the world being JESUS. Therefore, to be BIBLICAL is to be Christlike. Jn. 1:1

This critique is so petty.

@penendo7371

14 күн бұрын

How so? Not saying I agree with every point and criticism but I think this video brings some needed and well thought out constructive criticism.

Has he read this? Look the WORD is over all and God himself has exalt his Word. Psalm 138:1-3 I will praise thee with my whole heart: before the gods will I sing praise unto thee. 2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

At 36:40 - You are not listening to what he is saying. He's saying they aren't going out to the Gentiles. He is truthfully calling out what the Covenant Theologians did. They say we are under a modified Law of Moses, and all of the Messianic/Hebrew Roots Christians build their theology on Covenant Theology. Covenant Theology is not built on the Apostles. It's built on the Book of Jubiliees. It's false doctrine. You can't say, "God shows no partiality" while saying, "he's already declared everyone either elect or rebrobate." That's the definition of clean and unclean. This is how Satan works with false dichotomy. Andy Stanley just explained the real error of Covenant Theology, which millions of Christians understand. But then he states the alternative as, not living as if under the Law of Moses, but as not worrying about being "biblical." Satan always gives you two bad ideas, and has you fight over which is better.

So this is a real question. What do you mean "you can't identify with a political party and be a Christian"? Like I can't be a registered Republican in order to vote in the primary process in my state even though I have issues with the GOP. Or don't link Christ to political parties? The reason we get horrible candidates is because the vast vast majority of voters don't participate in the primary process. Not trying to be snarky, just want to understand what you mean.

@penendo7371

14 күн бұрын

I don’t think that was what he was getting at, rather that some people tend to make their political affiliation a core part of their identity. (Ex. putting “Republican/Democrat” in their social media bio) Since Christ is what we put our identity in, being so closely tied to a party is not what we are called to do. Especially because each party promotes policies or behavior that is un Christ-like. But @HonestYouthPastor please correct me if I misrepresented your view!

Galatians 2 proves that Paul wasn't Plan B because the apostles were disobeying Jesus for 15 years. "6 And from those who seemed to be influential (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)-those, I say, who seemed influential added nothing to me. 7 On the contrary, when they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been entrusted with the gospel to the circumcised 8 (for he who worked through Peter for his apostolic ministry to the circumcised worked also through me for mine to the Gentiles), 9 and when James and Cephas and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given to me, they gave the right hand of fellowship to Barnabas and me, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. 10 Only, they asked us to remember the poor, the very thing I was eager to do." Galatians 2:6-10 This is saying Jesus worked through Peter and the others to reach the Jews (which Jerusalem has people who travel in and out on a regular basis... great way to help the gospel spread).

Most of jesus' disciples were not illiterate just because they had a scribe. Having a scribe was a common practice.... comparison to using a computer rather than paper and pen.

@toolegittoquit_001

18 күн бұрын

‘Siri …’

I really wish he would, well stop doing many things, but stop “speaking” for Jesus. He adds to the text as though he has the inside scoop as to what Jesus was actually saying behind the text. Also, he clearly does not understand that the apostles (or any Jew who became a Christian) did not view themselves as leaving one religion for another. They were Jews who now believed in the Messiah. We have a particular way of understanding “religion” that simply was not the worldview of the first century. To mock the apostles in that way is astounding to me. 😊

@newitcher

14 күн бұрын

Did not mean to put that emoji! Ha!

The reason you keep interrupting it so many times cuz you feel like you have to distract your viewers from understanding what Andy is saying and that maybe your viewers might even agree with Andy but you always stopping it is keeping them into confusion nobody learns. I'm 63 Andy 66 we've been around the block we know what we've seen and the holy Spirit could be doing a new thing you know he could be doing new wine skins. Could be about the prophecy of the unit could be maybe. Maybe Jesus is trying to do a new thing by feeling other people with good information. But yet you just can't unhit the Bible laws that Jesus said that we're not to live by anymore we're justified through faith not by works.

This was exhausting and frustrating to listen to.

Andy probably doesn't even know that he's trapped in Dispensationalism and doesn't even know what that is, in any case He can barely spell 'Covenental' 😢

@KentJ

18 күн бұрын

Where’d he misspell covenantal??😂

Ugh, I tried to get through this whole video…I just CANNOT take Andy’s voice and weird demeanor, and his messing up the Word. He is NOTHING like his dad was.

@penendo7371

14 күн бұрын

uhhh… isn’t that a bit immature? Being unable to listen to video because of someone’s voice (which they can’t change btw).

@lisacraft9929

8 күн бұрын

I can't stand his voice either.

This guy is finding new ways to be a heretic.

He wants to sound so profound and so smart but he just makes himself sound so ignorant. He's talking about things I learned in the first few months of being saved as though they've been great mysteries for millennia. Maybe he should take stock of his own ignorance and stop projecting it outwards onto the body of Christ.

@yunder.

18 күн бұрын

He's not ignorant. What he's doing is intentionally deceptive. I can't see his heart, so I don't know if it is born of malice.

So sad he’s still providing content to review.

No

I don’t think he’s right but these comments feel overly harsh.

@penendo7371

14 күн бұрын

Totally agree, I wish people would think about how powerful words are. Right or wrong Andy Stanley is human. He is made in the image of God and should be treated accordingly.

It’s not your fault you are having to explain his infallible thoughts. He’s just that horrible.

He’s a lm archetype of what is going on with the modern church. It’s best unfortunate

I have zero respect for Andy Stanley. And I disagree that his father made “obstacles” for ppl to belong .. I was raised in a very legalistic sect and as soon as I was 18 and out on my own, I was out of it! Not until I found Dr Charles Stanley’s In Touch ministry, was I truly saved and found a love and desire for God and His Word. Granted, I never attended his church in person. But I worshipped weekly and followed the devotional studies and radio (aka internet) sermons daily. I can honestly say that Dr Stanley introduced me to the true gospel and the true Jesus. 🙏🏼 TFS- I watched because I enjoy you, but to listen to AS was difficult. I find him very theatrical .. as if he’s putting on a performance vs preaching a sermon.. he seems to think he’s more interesting than he is.. IMHO Btw yes, I do agree about the political parties. Neither have kept God in their agenda. Sadly.. 😇 Oh and there’s a big difference Andy, between loving as Jesus commands and conforming to the world!

@penendo7371

14 күн бұрын

You may disagree with Andy Stanley however he still is a good husband father, mentor, who has good intentions (although poorly executed) and who does a lot to help his community. Which I think deserves at least a shred of respect.

How deceptive. Andy is disregarding the rest of the NT that the Triune God also wrote. Plus he's not mentioning all the really hard sayings of Jesus that brought separation with the world. All Scripture is God-breathed, Old and New covenants. Andy is not to be trusted. Heartbreaking to see it

@mikezeke7041

19 күн бұрын

And the OT that was what Jesus explained and fulfilled

We should not love our parents and siblings unconditionally. There are many conditions to having those people in your life as you become an adult. That’s loving yourself

Andy doesnt give sermons, they're more like glorified Ted talks.

Andy Stanley's smugness is so sad. He's completely blinded by arrogance. If seems like his every interpretation of the Bible is skewed by this, to the detriment of those looking to him for guidance.

And you're not loving them You're just telling them your interpretation of your God with the lack of wisdom and insight that there is 350 million Americans and they all have a different vision of what their paradigm and God is but you're instilling your God on others It's not the other way around the church Catholic Church usurped the word of God. Exchanging the truth for a lie trying to make a heterosexual binary system that was the lie my friend that was the lie Wake you up time.

I don’t think you understand Paul speaking about women Pastors. You can debate that they shouldn’t be head pastors but you cannot debate about women being ministers. This is such a gross misuse of the text. Do research on who he was writing too and how women were prophetesses for pagan goddesses and in some of the churches the women weren’t literate so they’d start talking in church. It has NOTHING to do with them actually ministering his word. If that was the case, why is there Phoebe, why were the 4 daughters of Philip were prophetesses, why was Lydia the leader of a church, why was Junia a woman disciple? Do some research.

@preacherbill

19 күн бұрын

Nice paragraph of nothing but being wrong. Search his channel on the topic of women pastors and then you can delete your comment.

@toolegittoquit_001

18 күн бұрын

You can do some (more ?) research yourself. The Word is clear; women are not to be Pastors. You use the word ‘ministers’; what do you mean by that ? Your post is unclear and cannot be understood as written. Just what are you advocating for ? And do recall that Paul’s letters were meant to be distributed among ALL the churches; his direction was not intended for a single church or else he would have indicated it as such. It was universal guidance

@toolegittoquit_001

18 күн бұрын

Julia was not a Disciple; she was known among the church. She was a faithful woman but no disciple. That is all

@ladyphoenixgrey3923

18 күн бұрын

You need to fully submit to Christ and keep studying. You're trying to excuse clearly forbade behavior simply because you don't like that it's not allowed. None of the females mentioned in Scripture are Elders nor are they preachers. You are reading into Scripture what is not there. Paul is clear. If you're trying to lead a congregation or church, you're living in rebellion. Adam came first, then Eve. There's a reason God made the hierarchy that obvious. Repent and submit to God's will.

@southerngirl1408

17 күн бұрын

@@ladyphoenixgrey3923 Amen!

Andy Stanley is right. And you are incorrect and wrong. And I think you doth protest too much. You're being biblical installing the law following the law commanding other You've been persecuting LGBT children.