Is Analog Gear REALLY worth it? My honest thoughts...

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  • @frankensteindrumco.1927
    @frankensteindrumco.19273 ай бұрын

    I’m more fascinated by your shirt changing colors in real time.

  • @Septeemberpain

    @Septeemberpain

    2 ай бұрын

    lol

  • @SoundPeaks

    @SoundPeaks

    2 ай бұрын

    it's the Doppler effect, cuz the camera moves onto him

  • @user-vg5rv5xf4u

    @user-vg5rv5xf4u

    2 ай бұрын

    It's not bro,You're on DMT.

  • @levondarratt787

    @levondarratt787

    Ай бұрын

    Cool story bro. Use your ears,always.

  • @WeauxPiano
    @WeauxPiano2 ай бұрын

    6:08 makes me think of a friend who bought a big console and never used it, nor even plugged it in. The console being there got him a lot of clients.

  • @Byron101_
    @Byron101_3 ай бұрын

    It's very interesting how quickly you can change your shirts, Dom! 😄

  • @zinghao131

    @zinghao131

    3 ай бұрын

    🤣

  • @levondarratt787

    @levondarratt787

    Ай бұрын

    Who cares

  • @alexanderaseffa
    @alexanderaseffa3 ай бұрын

    I record on a portable interface when on the road and I run back some of the key tracks like vocals and main instruments through analog gear. It gives me the freedom to run it in cycle and tweak the gears to my liking and print back to computer. I try to recreate that sound in plug-in only as a challenge and sometimes it’s not easy. Sometimes you have to stack multiple plugins to get close but by the time you get there it feels like a lot of work. I believe some of the best engineers who claim they only mix in the box have already tracked or run most of their tracks through analog first. And that is very effective as those subtle analog flavors on a number of tracks will make a significant difference on the overall mix. Also makes your mixing session go fast. Great video as always.

  • @saxmanash

    @saxmanash

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm considering this tbh as plugins take so much CPU space and feel unnatural using a mouse. I have to at least use mixing tools on my midi keyboard.

  • @harveyspecter1653

    @harveyspecter1653

    2 ай бұрын

    I think analogue gear does have an edge but imo it's so minor that when the mix is done you barely hear it, if you hear it at all. If you have tons of money, analogue outboard is a lot of fun but unless you are a rock star with world fame, imo it's just not worth the price anymore. That's what I find a pitty: the exaggerated prices. We all know electronic parts cost almost nothing. A tube tech CL1B (apart from an AMS Neve DMX1580s) are the only outboards I have; In a CL1B there is hardly anything in there. Yet they charge over 3000 for a single unit. To build one maybe costs 100 or 150 bucks. That's why I like Tegeler Audio. They offer top material for affordable prices. Outboard should be less expensive. Same with some synth manufacturers. Take DSI, Moog, Neve, etc. All top brands but they want excessive profit marigns. That's too bad.

  • @donnydarko7624

    @donnydarko7624

    2 ай бұрын

    You can get 99% of the way there inside the box but reaching that destination is much faster when it comes to getting that legit sounding/feelling compression, saturation and distortion. The majority of people that are going to listen to the music can't tell the difference. micing amps vs. DI recorded instruments is one of those things where it's almost impossible to get a DI recorded guitar to sound quite right to fool someone with a trained ear into thinking it was recorded via micing amps

  • @levondarratt787

    @levondarratt787

    Ай бұрын

    Cool story from the past bro. What if I give you a perfect tracks with luxury plugins and then see how long it will take you to match that with analog hardware. You won't be able to. Because it's not the same thing

  • @AudioAtmos
    @AudioAtmos3 ай бұрын

    Lots of great advice. “Listen with your ears and not your eyes” is huge. Staring at numbers on a screen can be a real problem. Thanks Dom!

  • @AndiPicker
    @AndiPicker3 ай бұрын

    I sometimes feel that the irony is that analogue gear is often easier to use - it's more benign, it does less and it's harder to mess up when you have one real compressor vs a dozen plugins; so it's probably better for beginners to learn on. Experienced mixers, folks like Andrew Scheps, can move ITB because they know exactly what they are aiming for and are more able to tame their plugin collections. A lot of the big name guys from the 80s and 90s era, like CLA and Joe Barresi, always appear in front of their SSLs, but then that's now sort of their brand, it makes them stand out in a crowded market place. I find that plugins like the Brainworx Black Box MS with its density control and the adjustable headroom on the Shadow HIlls Mastering Comp are a big help as an easy way to dial in more of what a plugin does and then reduce the impact to get a more natural result. Great vid Dom, food for thought.

  • @lloydbrownmusic
    @lloydbrownmusic3 ай бұрын

    @7:10 Mic Drop. You said it all in that sentence Dom! Bless up Sir

  • @olivermaier-landshut3047
    @olivermaier-landshut30473 ай бұрын

    I think the biggest flaw in comparing analog gear to plugins is: If you hear a difference, any difference, most people will automatically assume that the hardware is better…tadaaaaa….marketing. I have plugins that are the reason I sold the hardware, because for my taste, or in my opinion, the plugin does a better job. But I know, if you want to buy a 5000$ compressor…any sound difference goes in favour of the gear…

  • @Dhexmusic

    @Dhexmusic

    3 ай бұрын

    this is so true who decides that the difference is better since they are both still interpretations of the source material which analog intentionally changes, digital is more true to source since it adds no discolouration

  • @nicefish10

    @nicefish10

    3 ай бұрын

    I disagree. Hardware is always better because it’s the original. The plug-ins wouldn’t have anything to emulate if it wasn’t for the hardware first.

  • @olivermaier-landshut3047

    @olivermaier-landshut3047

    3 ай бұрын

    @@nicefish10 That is the common believe. But the technologie at the time (in the 1920s and 1930s) limited the applications of the mathematical formulars behind it. There is no argument that the digital technologie today is prefered by the industry that invented all of this. And I don‘t mean the music industry, that was just a side product…

  • @levondarratt787

    @levondarratt787

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly !! Well said. These guys are tapping themselves on their own shoulders, tooting their horn. In the hopes of eliminating competition. Look at me I have analogue gear you cannot do what I can do ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

  • @skidogbill
    @skidogbill3 ай бұрын

    I’ve been a composer/musician/producer for almost 50 years, and owned a good sized 24 track studio some years ago, but later downsized to a project studio. When the UAD1 card first came out I compared the 1176LN plug against my 1176LN, specifically on vocals, and I couldn’t hear any difference at all. I saw the future, and sold all my analog outboard gear. Made a pretty penny, too! I’m primarily a musician these days, and not really in the recording business anymore, and only have myself to impress, so I’m perfectly happy with plugs. I don’t even own a guitar amp anymore.

  • @TeknaTronik
    @TeknaTronik3 ай бұрын

    This is the best description I’ve heard for analog/ digital. Do what feels good 😊

  • @WheelieMix
    @WheelieMix2 ай бұрын

    As somebody working a in studio with an SSL 4048G+ and also having my own spot with plenty of analog gear, I think : - Analog makes a different during the recording stage : You can track through plugins now. A lot of them offer latency free options (not only UAD). But it's true that tracking through gear (or plugins for that matter) makes mixing easier along the way. And it's true that the wider sweet spot of analog makes it "safer" to track through. - The "wow factor" making artists/clients comfortable : I agree fully. - Analog makes a difference when mixing, you can get to the sound quicker : I think it is true but if I am being really honest : The recall/print or the patching will take as much time as piling up plugins to get to the sound desired. So analog will only be effectively quicker if it is used as "set and forget", like preset. Although hardware do not sound more "3D". They are still stereo or mono imho ^^. - Bigger sweet spot with hardware : Yeah I could agree to that. When pushed they sound great. It is kinda true but a lot of modern hardware sounds absolutely crap when pushed now. - Hardware is inspiring : It's idiosyncratic but I agree too, for me at least. - Music is a human thing : Well depending on how things will go, this statement will either age very well or awfully badly ^^. What you forgot to mention it's that, as soon as audio engineering remain a thing (which I don't think it will much in the near future), hardware is an investment. When buying something second-hand, you can resell it for me and it can help facing tough financial situation. I recently made 1k profit on a sale of a second hand gear. And no I am not 50 y old, I just was lucky to find a great deal, restore the unit (very basic stuff) and sell it back.

  • @FredDeMassiveAlambic

    @FredDeMassiveAlambic

    2 ай бұрын

    Fixing fusions for a living ? 😅

  • @WheelieMix

    @WheelieMix

    2 ай бұрын

    Haha not talking about the Fusion here ;).

  • @musiclover19798
    @musiclover197983 ай бұрын

    Great explanation between the two! Thank you for all of your great content!

  • @BlazonStone
    @BlazonStone3 ай бұрын

    Before watching: if somebody can't make a good mix with stock plugins they aint gonna know how to use equivilent hardware stuff either. And I'm not trying to say I'm any genious on mixing either. I'm pretty avarage. But I know I would't automatically make something better by buying any fancy stuff.

  • @MaxSoggiu
    @MaxSoggiu2 ай бұрын

    Great lesson! Thanks Dom!

  • @marclaliberte4118
    @marclaliberte41183 ай бұрын

    awesome video! thanks for sharing your knowledge!

  • @marioraya
    @marioraya3 ай бұрын

    This message gives a lot of perspective. Thank you, and and enjoy that real mandolin too!

  • @yaqzan24
    @yaqzan243 ай бұрын

    This was so interesting and useful Dom. Thanks

  • @sixstring3639
    @sixstring36392 ай бұрын

    Great as always Dom!!

  • @wesstarmedia
    @wesstarmedia2 ай бұрын

    The quality preamps and microphones still make sense sense. But with lack of recall and the expense involved in hardware, im not sure it is worth it in 2024. I'd advise someone to put that money towards a high spec cpu.

  • @Chyle69
    @Chyle692 ай бұрын

    Very true! Great video! Thank you!

  • @shevyjohn9308
    @shevyjohn93083 ай бұрын

    no way in hell i’m ever going back fully in the box hybrid is the way

  • @michaelgeimer5705
    @michaelgeimer57053 ай бұрын

    Congrats on getting a mandolin! They are fantastic instruments, so am sure you will have a great time learning yours. Always enjoy your vids.

  • @Septeemberpain
    @Septeemberpain2 ай бұрын

    Great tips thank you !

  • @bontempo1271
    @bontempo12713 ай бұрын

    Dom what are your techniques for bringing plugins closer to that hardware sound ? Perhaps that would be a good video ;)

  • @jeremythornton433

    @jeremythornton433

    3 ай бұрын

    Count me in on watch that one!

  • @SoundPeaks
    @SoundPeaks2 ай бұрын

    There are really good points I've never though about before while working in a home studio.

  • @matt_nyc_audioengineer
    @matt_nyc_audioengineer3 ай бұрын

    I've been professionally mixing/mastering for over 15 years. Aside from when I worked in professional studios, I did it 100% in the box till about 2 years ago. It is entirely possible to make "industry standard" music just in the box. That being said, about 2 or 3 years ago I started buying analog gear HOWEVER I only got the stuff I felt like plugins just didn't do the job as good as I knew was possible. So I stick with compression and saturation for my hardware. I don't have any analog EQ or fx and don't intend on getting them. The mixbus is the best place to start in my opinion. Get a GOOD mixbus compressor (I chose the WesAudio Dione and it's AMAZING) and build from there. I waited till I felt like plugins were holding me back to start purchasing analog gear and I think that's the best way to do it! Great video as usual Dom, thank you!

  • @aleksamrkela831

    @aleksamrkela831

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly! This is the most reasonable philosophy when it comes to investing in analog hardware. It also doesn't need a boutique price tag to be good. The Dione is awesome, indeed, and so is the slightly pricier Tegeler Audio Creme.

  • @D.Angelopoulos
    @D.Angelopoulos2 ай бұрын

    Okay, Μaster....this video is the master of videos, especially for home studio... and thanks again... as for the mandolin, it's not too late...

  • @Miicrowahvei
    @Miicrowahvei3 ай бұрын

    Your shirt is changing color! I was like "Whaaaat" 😲. Very interesting opinions about the psychological impact of analog equipment.

  • @eliassinclair
    @eliassinclair3 ай бұрын

    A great idea for "block" colors! Thanks

  • @michellewentworth9862
    @michellewentworth98622 ай бұрын

    In my opinion. It is critical to have a good recording chain of: microphones Rode K2, Shure SM7b, 2 x Rode NT5, Rode NTR Ribbon microphone etc. Go into a channel strip like Focusrite ISA-430 Mk2, into good A to D converter. I agree about the analogue recording chain. Record to 48k and 24 bit. Mix in software. I find my Mackie CR1604-VLZ mixer and RNC1773 compressor works really well too, cheap and very effective. On the rare occasions I need to record drums I go to another studio. Most of my drums are samples played with a mouse or MIDI keyboard. (I must get a Roland V-drum kit.) Most pf my gear has been purchased used. Lots of people buy gear, lose interest, and sell it. For bass I have Ampeg PF 20-T going into a 15" EV or a Avalon U5 for DI. Mesa Boogie Nomad 100 and a choice of several speakers for guitar. There are 4 basses and 3 guitars in the studio maintained with intonation set correctly and new strings available. As for the psychological effects, I let my work speak for itself. I find people don't come to my door unless they have heard my previous work. I would prioritise making the studio feel good than some boutique compressor. Have a nice artist's lounge, a kitchen with cans of drink and some wine in the fridge. I have the services of my wife as a quality catering service. She is good, she cooks or takes orders and gets Thai take away. I have put way more time into learning about composition and arrangement than worrying about gear.

  • @rolandmarckwort
    @rolandmarckwort3 ай бұрын

    If you can afford decent analog gear, go for it 100%!

  • @aipsong
    @aipsong2 ай бұрын

    Excellent!!!Thanks!!

  • @lupiyorro
    @lupiyorro2 ай бұрын

    Thanks... good video.

  • @ricshaw4358
    @ricshaw43583 ай бұрын

    This was very useful.

  • @alexandrebaroni1057
    @alexandrebaroni10573 ай бұрын

    Best video that I saw for long time.

  • @Cefshah
    @Cefshah3 ай бұрын

    Great video, loaded with honest/helpful perspective!! 🙂💛

  • @DomSigalas

    @DomSigalas

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @djjohnny5166
    @djjohnny5166Ай бұрын

    Great video

  • @YMIR
    @YMIR3 ай бұрын

    Analog is cool cause it gave me a reference in terms of the difference between analog and digital. Now knowing the sound of analog, it feels like I can get my digital plugins to get closer to that sound. I think that is a pretty useful bit. But if you are starting out, I don't think you should invest in it right away. It can get mad expensive. There is so much to learn first about music that can be done without analog. But once you feel you can take the leap monetarily and mentally, it is a pretty powerful plunge.

  • @MichaelBaugh
    @MichaelBaugh3 ай бұрын

    Great video! It's been insanely busy lately but I've got some down time now to get a good healthy dose of Dom Sigalas ❤‍🔥

  • @DomSigalas

    @DomSigalas

    3 ай бұрын

    Welcome back man!❤

  • @NOXBEATZ
    @NOXBEATZ2 ай бұрын

    As an engineer who built his dream studio in 2020 with tons of analog gear , a c800g , elam 251 mic and a plethora of analog synths coveted pieces etc. Financially this will absolutely do nothing to make you more money from a client , at all. I've had clients actually prefer shitty digital pumping compression over hardware , like shit off a phone on bandlab...demoitis is so real lmfaooo. BUT analog gear shoots up in value , all my hardware has appreciated in value. Not only do I think it sounds amazing during recording/even some post processing stuff. I also love summing so much and 2-bus hardware processing. Hybrid for life... I love it because my studio is essentially a savings account for me. Just reflipped 2 pieces and profited 1k back after using it for a year. Wild

  • @monovladd4392
    @monovladd43922 ай бұрын

    Inspiring video and... I love you t-shirt 🤣

  • @ancientsequence
    @ancientsequence3 ай бұрын

    I like the intro 🥰 remembering me to witcher game soundtrack😊

  • @IanGibsonmusic
    @IanGibsonmusic3 ай бұрын

    Analogue gear preference is purely psychological and/or based on the physical interface. In blind tests people can't tell the difference in terms of sound quality between analogue and digital. I should know. I've done the tests as part of my work.

  • @ignacedhont9816

    @ignacedhont9816

    3 ай бұрын

    So wrong.. in most cases the differences are so obvious I don't even bother with blind testing. Same goes for my clients.. They always pick the hardware and not because they are snobs (actually some of them absolutely hate the audiophile attitude).

  • @kevinkearney3836

    @kevinkearney3836

    3 ай бұрын

    I can almost always hear the difference. That said, the song is king.

  • @Joe-mz6dc

    @Joe-mz6dc

    3 ай бұрын

    My observation is that it depends on how the piece is recorded and mastered. Both digital and analog are only good in the hands of those who are good. The top guys can use whatever equipment or technology available and it will always sound good.

  • @maxatorium

    @maxatorium

    3 ай бұрын

    Even the plugin designers (not their sales team) admit that plug in emulation aren’t accurate. Even more so when it comes to tracking. Tools are tools. Use what you have but let’s not compensate/discount what nicer tools are able to accomplish.

  • @TheSoundOfLove

    @TheSoundOfLove

    3 ай бұрын

    there was a very good test on Audiofanzine on this subject: very few people could tell the difference between a mix. ITB (with paid or free plug-ins) and a mix made with very expensive analog hardware!

  • @chrisslyfield3906
    @chrisslyfield39063 ай бұрын

    Another great vid Dom... my personal preference for analog is for 3 reasons. 1 I suffered option paralysis with plugins, I am now more limited and thus more creative with fewer options. 2 I got an error message "Cubase no longer supports 32 bit plugins", my analog gear will outlast me and will still run when we have 256 bit processors in our phones lol. 3 there are 2 letters of the alphabet that instantly make me lose the will to live... IT, the less I need my computer the better. The last point is prob me being a luddite, however I think the first 2 points are worth considering.

  • @JeremieFriez
    @JeremieFriez3 ай бұрын

    I've been producing like 100% in the box since 2009 for most of my music except for when I record guitar(acoustic and electric for which I used an isolated cab I built to record my Mark V in 2014 and 2015 before purchasing a Mesa Cab Clone in 2016 and more recently a Torpedo Live). But I recently started to purchase analog gear and plan to slowly go hybrid!

  • @talktalk4503
    @talktalk450324 күн бұрын

    Can you do a video on how to build, connect, setup, integrate with digital and use the analog gears for tracking/mixing/mastering?

  • @Sappotube
    @Sappotube3 ай бұрын

    Great video my friend!! 🤟🤓

  • @DomSigalas

    @DomSigalas

    3 ай бұрын

    Aaaah thanks maaaan!!!

  • @nukenoly8751
    @nukenoly87512 ай бұрын

    Best ‘analog’ DAW is UAD Luna Pro 😊 Has that good old days workflow with its extensions, tape simulations and summing. I’m a Cubase head but love LUNA Pro

  • @jeremythornton433
    @jeremythornton4333 ай бұрын

    Great video. I can't afford the great analog gear but i do use inexpensive stuff and get great results. I have my Beheringer Tube ultragain rack mount preamp going into my ART Pro VLA II compressor. I have 3 mics that I use for vocals. A Warm Audio WA47jr, an Apex 435 and my Lewett 240 Pro. The first 2 mics go through the rackmount gear while the Lewett runs through my Presous series 3 mixer which is my audio interface.

  • @mgmthegrand
    @mgmthegrand3 ай бұрын

    Hi Dom. Thank you for this. I've always wondered whether one can emulate an analog environment by using plugins in the input channel. Is this advisable? Can you maybe make a video on this?

  • @elanmarkos
    @elanmarkos3 ай бұрын

    Always the G!!!!

  • @TheSzyszko
    @TheSzyszko3 ай бұрын

    love the intro

  • @mpc40001014
    @mpc400010143 ай бұрын

    Everything is personal choice really. I have both Analog and Digital, Analog is the true source though. You could call it special sauce really. Have Warm Audios VCA Bus Comp and their 1073 pre amp and EQ, comparison is night and day

  • @mohokios
    @mohokios23 күн бұрын

    i am not fan of analog gear for several reasons... but that's me.. this debate has started for years and years and in a serious talk everyone can have real points to show out in a conversation... in the end of the day, Analog gear or Plugins, they will deliver the job should anyway... the most important things are 1) the one using that gear, no matter what it is.. 2) when using something, knowing what you're doing, and most importantly know what to expect when applying something.. in other words working with intention...

  • @BritoWorx
    @BritoWorx2 ай бұрын

    Analog gear forced me to use my ears more. To be more critical with my decisions. Plus turning knobs and pushing buttons makes me feel more connected to my craft. But definitely not required to make good music. Great video Dom.

  • @msb__blnk
    @msb__blnk3 ай бұрын

    I have a Warm Audio TB12 (preamp) for my vocal mic and i love the way it adds colour to the sound. It makes it feel way more alive. I also tried to record vocals through preamp emulations on my Antelope Discrete 4 Synergy Core and even though they sound great and do make a difference from just the interface preamps themselves, they can't compete with the TB12... The TB12 feels way more alive and real.

  • @msb__blnk

    @msb__blnk

    3 ай бұрын

    And also, what you said about the analog wide sweet spot, i find it true on it as well. I rarely touch its settings. It sounds awesome almost 90% of the time without having to tweek it

  • @crawlingman7003
    @crawlingman70032 ай бұрын

    Yes. Especially mic preamps!

  • @WassupFred
    @WassupFredАй бұрын

    Love your videos bro.. I want u to do one of my mixes

  • @jaketanner109
    @jaketanner1093 ай бұрын

    Decided to skip McDSP APB in lieu of a few carefully picked plugins that are as close to analog as you can get ITB...Tone Project, Schwabe Digital, PSP...ETC. Even the SSL channel strips sound excellent and add some body. Now I use Kelvin as first insert...this already adds that weight, then adding additional emulations after just elevates the experience.

  • @levondarratt787

    @levondarratt787

    Ай бұрын

    Schwabe sucks. Mixbus hypetrain, for his buddy who codes plugins.

  • @Phat-Monkey
    @Phat-Monkey2 ай бұрын

    Great video, only analogue gear I have is the Dangerous 2-Bus+, summing to it creates depth, almost 3D and warmth I cant seem to match with my 1,000+ plugins.... :D

  • @quirijnfoeken7520
    @quirijnfoeken75203 ай бұрын

    I 100% experienced that singers perform better with a nice front-end. Nice pre-amp with some compression to give a big sound in their headphones and suddenly stop moving their head away when they hit louder notes. Makes it more fun for everywhere. I also noticed that you cant away with more gain reduction on the way in than can do with a plugin. And finally, when I decided to upgrade my vocal chain (including the mic) I dont have to do a lot in mixing. Some low-cut, maybe a boost. Finish it off with a nice La-2a plugin, add verb/delay and done. I used to spend ages on vocal EQ and compression with plugins.

  • @soundshigh
    @soundshigh3 ай бұрын

    I've been using GAP Comp-3A for all the vocals I record, and voice overs too - highly recommended!

  • @aleksamrkela831

    @aleksamrkela831

    3 ай бұрын

    Very underrated company altogether! I wish more people knew about them.

  • @braxal6983
    @braxal69833 ай бұрын

    DOM, This was great video. I noticed you have a Rupert Neve Designs Master Bus Transformer. How do you like having the red and blue silk at the same time? I really want one of those but they are so expensive. You should do a video on it!

  • @thaexception3406

    @thaexception3406

    3 ай бұрын

    Try Access Analog which is how I tried it!

  • @60secmusic96
    @60secmusic963 ай бұрын

    Mandoline best intro ever.

  • @mrmorpheus9707
    @mrmorpheus97073 ай бұрын

    I find that where analog really makes a diff is.on the way in too...❤

  • @KallusGarnet
    @KallusGarnet2 ай бұрын

    Analogue gear/hardware is great till it gets old and you have to get them repaired or you get your studio robbed. I always tell people no solution is perfect so its up to you.

  • @Guttalaser
    @Guttalaser3 ай бұрын

    ahahhaha Dom I was paying so much attention to your words that I almost didn't notice your shirt going from green to cyan to green again! 😆

  • @harveyspecter1653
    @harveyspecter16532 ай бұрын

    I have a CL1B too and agree it's a beast. It adds nice sound to vocals; But it is my opinion you can get a good sound allowing singers to perform as you nicely put it with any software compressor too. It will just sound a little less great but not bad. In my beginning years I recorded vocals with a 15 year old SM58 which we borrowed from a club and which smelled because every drunk DJ had been sptting in it for years. We didn't have money for a pre amp so I used my cheap Mackie VLZ 4 channel console with their "mic pre's" built in. Given that little console cost mayby 100 bucks you can imagine.... And from there, directly into digidesign 882 ADDA converters, probably the worst converters ever. And we sold quite some copies. Honestly, I can't say that all sounded really awesome; It didn't, compared to nowadays in the box quality. Just saying, while I agree anaologue gear is great, imi in 2024 you can perfectly do without and still make great sounding performances.

  • @JamesJones-th3ml
    @JamesJones-th3ml3 ай бұрын

    Seems like Tech has caught up for this to even be a question. I know I have found more than a few guitar amp sims that sound so close to the real thing you can not do a blind test! You can also put effects on headphones through a daw with some great plugins real time as well. Like my first statement said........

  • @jacksp8de
    @jacksp8de2 ай бұрын

    The best piece of gear I have is my Rupert Neve Newton Channel. It's pretty much all I need to record vocals and I've had other hardware but mostly clones. This is the most affordable thing that is the actually the real deal.

  • @krudler406
    @krudler4063 ай бұрын

    this works the same way with guitar amps too 🔥

  • @xanataph
    @xanataph2 ай бұрын

    It's interesting you speak about the "sweet spot being wider" when it comes to analogue gear. I commented on another video earlier today about plug-ins & digital mixing etc and I was mentioning that back when I was recording in an all analogue studio the sweet spot of an *entire mix* was a lot wider than what it seems to be when one is mixing in the box with plug-ins. And this wasn't even flash gear. Foxtex R8 tape machine, Alesis compressors, Boss & Peavey mulit-FX rack units.

  • @levondarratt787

    @levondarratt787

    Ай бұрын

    You lose the center The Wider you go in the music is less punch. Also there's no reason scientifically for it to be wider whether it's processed by electricity or by electrons

  • @xanataph

    @xanataph

    Ай бұрын

    @@levondarratt787 We're not talking about wideness in terms of *stereo width* nothing like that. It's to do with that when mixing on analogue gear there is a far greater tolerance zone where a mix sounds "good" and.or "done" (or in Dom's case, when a sound is dialed in on a piece of analogue outboard gear) then there is on in-the-box DAW mixing or plugins. I agree with what you are talking about though (re: stereo width), it always sounds gruntier when it's closer to mono!

  • @mistermusicenterprise3148
    @mistermusicenterprise31483 ай бұрын

    Great. I see that in the same way. 👍

  • @timmjohannesbrockmann9530
    @timmjohannesbrockmann95302 ай бұрын

    Also in the realm of subtle distortion, saturation, adding harmonics etc., the analog equipment still gives better results, I find.

  • @PARISONFIRE
    @PARISONFIRE3 ай бұрын

    I think most people are mislead by the analog industry and youtubers but in reality the best starting investment you can do is buying a really good channelstrip with eq and comp (try to aim for an optical one one the way in like Dom already said) and youre set for a long time. i wish someone would have told me this 10 years ago ;D

  • @elcantantejr1
    @elcantantejr13 ай бұрын

    Soy cantante y para mí cantar en vivo incluso sin compresión en mi in ear es un suplicio, tienes que estar muy pendiente de los cambios de dinámica y te quita poder de la interpretación. Gracias Don

  • @giulioboobzilla
    @giulioboobzilla3 ай бұрын

    dis is pricelezz 🥳🔥

  • @thaexception3406
    @thaexception34063 ай бұрын

    If better means more depth, 3D, real sounding etc. then go with hardware all the way and once you hear that then there will be the inspiration at least for me.

  • @davidtoromusic
    @davidtoromusic2 ай бұрын

    HI Dom! Sorry about my Bad english . What do you think about plugins simulations for analog? How about pre simulations on the in channels of the daw? I was trying many ways to find a good sound with my dynamic mic.

  • @summerfazed
    @summerfazed2 ай бұрын

    Plugins into hardware is great

  • @MarcoPolux
    @MarcoPolux3 ай бұрын

    Dom "Of Course!"

  • @muzicalguru2552
    @muzicalguru25522 ай бұрын

    ANALOG SAVE TIME DUDE WITH GREAT RESULT

  • @daneeehhhh
    @daneeehhhh3 ай бұрын

    I'm a drummer, I built 2 Capi VP28s and 2 Hairball Lolas on a 500 chassis, I love I can just flip that switch and get kick,snare,overheads that sound like a dream. Playing with the pre gains and the trims, the filters, makes it a whole worth it. I have a question... I have a Focusrite Red4Pre(4 pres, 4 lines, 16 through adat, dante and spdif), I need to expand my analog input situation... I was thinking on getting some cheap-ish used 8pre/8out adat compatible interface, any recos? It could be used and old, I'd just use it for the I/O... Presonus Digimax maybe? Thank you

  • @mixedbymuchewicz
    @mixedbymuchewicz3 ай бұрын

    Your T-shirt changing colour is making me dizzy, Dom 😅

  • @mrsayang

    @mrsayang

    3 ай бұрын

    I want to have a colour changing shirt….looks cool 😎 😂😂😂😂

  • @nicefish10
    @nicefish103 ай бұрын

    Nobody has ever come to my studio because I have a specific plug-in. And I own tons of plug-ins. But I get phone calls every day because I own chandler, germanium compressors, universal audio 1176, and LA 2a, Distressors, Neves, Avalon ,Orange, Neumann, Mesa, Marshall, Fender, Ampeg, Lexicon, Flea, Bock, Royer, etc. I also own at least a dozen very nice snare drums that are always on display, two very nice drum kits, and about 20 Very nice guitars that are hanging up in the studio. It’s also about creating an atmosphere for the artists that breeds trust, comfort, and a creatively safe and inspiring environment. You don’t get that with a plug-in. Sonically plug-ins can do amazing things these days nobody can dispute that. But you weren’t going to create a full on creative experience just by having some plug-ins on the computer. It takes so much more than that. But people that try to do everything all inside the box gets super defensive. Mixing with a mouse sucks. Mixing with Hardware is waaaay more satisfying and gets you physically connected to the music. You don’t get that with a plug-in

  • @ANDYROBINSONFOLK
    @ANDYROBINSONFOLK2 ай бұрын

    This is an informative video so thank you for putting the time and effort into making and presenting it it but it really should be titled 'high end analogue gear'. far too many people are under the impression that just because these esoteric and extremely expensive processors sound amazing then so must all analogue gear. There is a reason why these things cost a fortune. much analogue gear made before digital was noisy and muddy sounding. The manufacturers could get away with that when people were recording to 1/4 inch tape or dreadful cassette tape. I remember di'ing my bass into a Studiomaster live desk and being horrified by the boxy muddy tone that came out. I remember a similar sound from a low end four channel compressor. Then there was the Alesis compressor that sounded awful on bass. None of these could get close to a Drawmer never mind an 1176 or a distressor. Early transistor guitar amps sounded pretty bad too which further convinced guitarists that valve amps were the only way to go. thats another myth busted by modern digital technology. The move to 24bit solved the cheap analogue versus digital conundrum. if you can afford highj end analogue then go for it. I wish i could too but I am very careful about what low end analogue gear I put my music through.

  • @sinewaves1631
    @sinewaves16313 ай бұрын

    I have to say, I’m a life long software guy. Recently got a couple of hardware bits and there is absolutely no comparison in terms of what sounds better. I was surprised. I would say plugins are 80% at best. Question is how to build a hybrid workflow that doesn’t get in the way of creativity…

  • @busywl69
    @busywl692 ай бұрын

    THe analog vs digital thing has been over for years. FOlks who think analog must be the way just haven't figured that out and learned to live with that as freedom of choice will always be there.

  • @ridinglow6732
    @ridinglow67322 ай бұрын

    I mix hybrid and even though I really like my distressor plugins, I would never get rid of my hardware distressors are my vari mu comps.. I have 16 units of hardware eqs & compressors and they’re here to stay.

  • @adrianmack9542
    @adrianmack954227 күн бұрын

    If you listen to music from back in the days analog gear gave it more soul,feeling,presence you could put the songs on repeat all day. Now songs sound good but it doesn’t make me wanna keep hearing it. And if you mix and master a song in the box vs analog it will be a huge difference. Imo

  • @sroulyfrank7825
    @sroulyfrank78252 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this tutorial. Do you know a good midi controller to manually act on modulation, expression, velocity, vibrato... for virtual orchestra instruments. Thanks a lot!

  • @SIBIRIAKoriginal
    @SIBIRIAKoriginal2 ай бұрын

    what about the sound and quality of summing with an analog mixer? Do you master mixes after it mixed solely on an analog mixer?

  • @carlosmota3660
    @carlosmota36602 ай бұрын

    Its all about skill i would say gotta know how to mix and master and train the ear which comes mostly with time and exprience getting familiar with how the hardware/plugin sounds and feels or adds to the mix. When it comes to gear i use both anlog pre amps even a seperate computer

  • @DreamingInAudio
    @DreamingInAudio2 ай бұрын

    Dom. I’m a big fan and really appreciate all the videos you post. I’ve learned so much from you regarding Cubase and “in general” recording techniques. But, I do have a question I’m hoping you can answer regarding real drums. When I choose to use the various programmed drums in Cubase, my songs sound more professional, or should I say, more professionally mixed. I can use the same recording techniques on my guitars, bass, vocals, and keys, but if I use “real” drums, the mix seems to fall apart. It’s like there’s a cohesive element that disappears. Do you have any secrets to mixing real drums and obtaining that tight, cohesive, professional sound? I’m using DW’s, high end Zildian cymbals, SM57’s, AKG414’s, 12 foot ceilings, different room sizes, but there’s just something missing. I call it a glue that holds the rhythm tight. I’m not sure if I’m explaining this properly.

  • @Studio22mix

    @Studio22mix

    2 ай бұрын

    Make an extra parallel drumbus and use a fair amount of compression, blend it in with the mix of the separate drum tracks. Also if you use room effects you should use it on the complete drum kit, this gives it a more cohesive sound. And of course use a bus compressor on the drumbus 👌🏼

  • @DreamingInAudio

    @DreamingInAudio

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much! I really appreciate the guidance and will give this a try.

  • @DanglyLingham
    @DanglyLingham2 ай бұрын

    If you have a great song and great production I don't think it matters much these days.

  • @jameswilkerson8873
    @jameswilkerson88733 ай бұрын

    I wouldnt call it magic. But since I picked up some Elysia gear, that class A processing seems to make the stems more mixable. Its a strange, unquantifiable thing but it definitely is a thing. And the Xpressor seems to allow way more solid gain and it was so hard to get that close using software only.

  • @user-le5in5uv1y
    @user-le5in5uv1y3 ай бұрын

    Definitely! It worth! The clients likes full racks, but nobody hears a difference.

  • @niozikpro5812

    @niozikpro5812

    3 ай бұрын

    Agree to some extent. There is one interview from Rupert neve where he makes references to some studies involving the perception of frequencies by the body even though you cannot hear them. With that said, most of the analog "praise" can be understood as something that people perceive but are not able to pin point where it is. Whether is the way the current hits the wave in comparison to no current on the digital, digital sounds flat. And as I tried to investigate more and more, it turns out that lack of transformers makes it difficult for one to mix. Another challenge with digital is that it is easy to overdo. There is no limitation. And that lack of limitation creates some limitation to the end product added to the fact that you get a flat record it does not how many professional plugins you use. While you put a track into a class A circuit with transformer, you are literally done. Drive the volume a little bit for saturation and the tracks are sitting right there where they should. Then you can go with only 1 eq on digital (yes 1 eq), no added compression. I could go endlessly speaking about the diferences. But from the moment that "good sound" has been defined by analog over the years, then is clear that if you want good sound you should try atleast to understand the analog . . . Then you judge od course. But first understand the sonic portion foe you to be able to judge. The sound everybody is looking for is analog. Period!!!!

  • @DileepaMangala
    @DileepaMangala3 ай бұрын

    Thanks a lot for this wonderful video. One day I want to be you. ❤ Love from Sri Lanka ❤❤

  • @YotamPiano
    @YotamPiano2 ай бұрын

    This analog mandolin is REALLY worth it. No VST coming out of your monitors can imitate an actual string creating variable sound pressure waves through the air.

  • @BobbyGeneric145
    @BobbyGeneric1452 ай бұрын

    What are your thoughts on the uafx pedal version of these compressors?

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