Is a Stage 3 Trans Tune too much for Stock Turbo setups? Guide to xHP Tuning Maps

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  • @kern417
    @kern4177 ай бұрын

    xHP Guide to Custom Settings: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lKV7tceJlZDcqNI.html

  • @erich1308
    @erich1308 Жыл бұрын

    You're the man Kern! You always give the B58 community the info that we need.

  • @bigstepper4203
    @bigstepper4203 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Kern, been waiting for this video!

  • @davec5237
    @davec5237 Жыл бұрын

    Great information. Thanks Kern. 👍

  • @ryancaso
    @ryancaso10 ай бұрын

    Great video explaining the nuances of xHP!

  • @lanthislombard1847
    @lanthislombard18477 ай бұрын

    very concise and to the point as usual... keep up the good work

  • @ByronUK
    @ByronUK Жыл бұрын

    Was literally looking into xhp last night and wondering what to do. You read my mind man 👌🏻 thanks for this

  • @marwansherin
    @marwansherin Жыл бұрын

    great info man, it really shows the amount of preparation that gone into it, I am a new owner of a B58, for me I think it's very powerful just on stock, but nice to know the tons of features one might consider getting in the future..well said!!

  • @Dazza367
    @Dazza367 Жыл бұрын

    Great video and very informative. I have the B48 330i stage 2 with BM3 and have been considering XHP for a while but could not really find the answer to my question about if it was worth it for lower horsepower tune like mine (approximately 350HP) but you sure answered that for me. Big thank you.

  • @bsturn
    @bsturn Жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to part 2 for all the custom settings 💪

  • @CoBRA0245
    @CoBRA0245 Жыл бұрын

    Had my M140i for a year and gutted I've only just found your channel, solid content man!

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏾

  • @marklinley815
    @marklinley815 Жыл бұрын

    I usually don’t comment on KZread, but I have been a subscriber for awhile now. Hands down, best B58 information out there. You actually explain why things are and not just because. This video made my mind up to purchase this flash!!

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome man. Glad to help and you won't regret it

  • @benm6899
    @benm6899 Жыл бұрын

    great video man, very informative. I have been just using stage 3 and i dont really like hoe it shifs and feels. So i went to stage 1 to see the difference and its much nicer to drive

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome glad you enjoy it

  • @technopro-kz4xv
    @technopro-kz4xv Жыл бұрын

    Well said Kern, stage 2 is the best option specially if you are not tracking the car or drag racing. I’m on MHD Stage 1 and xHP Stage 2 in my 440i GC and it’s my daily driver but it feels really nice when you press the gas pedal 😊👍🏼pretty happy with the performance that i have with both flashed options.

  • @caspernetherlands698

    @caspernetherlands698

    Жыл бұрын

    I have the came car and looking for the same setup with flex fuel like e40. Bm3 has a nice flex fuel kit. How much hp are you putting down?

  • @MattyFJ
    @MattyFJ2 ай бұрын

    Bro thank you I’ve been trying to tell ppl this but now I’ll link 🔗 it

  • @JelloJelloJello
    @JelloJelloJello Жыл бұрын

    I recommend a video specifically on tq reduction up-shifting. See so many people get that concept wrong trying to achieve shift farts.

  • @jonathanmiddleton6035
    @jonathanmiddleton60355 ай бұрын

    Great video

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    4 ай бұрын

    thanks for watching

  • @michaelcollins8774
    @michaelcollins8774 Жыл бұрын

    Great video👍Slightly off topic but I’ve often wondered if the software update that’s part of the mppsk install at bmw adjusts the gearbox software as it seems to improve shift times in sport+ (could be wrong)

  • @bimmerlife5452
    @bimmerlife54524 ай бұрын

    I have full bolts on my f10 with stage 2 MHD running xHP stage 2 it’s amazing

  • @hasan_440i
    @hasan_440i Жыл бұрын

    I can't wait to watch man 2 month I went for xhp stg3 on stock engine map next day I downgrade for xhp stg2 it was too much powerful

  • @xxkissit609
    @xxkissit609 Жыл бұрын

    Hi i have a m5 comp 700 pounds feet of torqe where should i set torque reduction and punch dct transmission xhp stage 2 thanks so much

  • @eggm0ney
    @eggm0ney6 ай бұрын

    How does stage 1/2/3 affect eco pro mode for the people that still wanna save fuel from time to time?

  • @aTakoinaMako
    @aTakoinaMako Жыл бұрын

    In stage 2, DCT and DSC off mode does not activate fastest shifting in the latest version. Only v1.0 does so.

  • @sevyn8038
    @sevyn8038 Жыл бұрын

    What are we looking at from a normal bootmod stage 2 to adding a stage 2 or 3 tranny tune in terms of 0-60 or 1/4 mile improvements?

  • @AhmedElsayed-ox1db
    @AhmedElsayed-ox1db Жыл бұрын

    Great content as usual kev, but what about BM3 transmission tune is it more safe or XHP stg 2 for example? Just purchased BM3 license a couple of weeks ago so I’m not sure which to try

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    They don't have a trans Tune for our b58 cars. The ones they have on other cars only removes the torque limiter and doesn't have nearly as many features as xHP.

  • @GTS18
    @GTS18 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for bringing new about B58 man I really appreciate the work you do, I have one simple question, as far as I understand, bmw x40 engines comes with a different torque converter than the one in 540i, how much can I push with the stock converter before looking to upgrade to an M Performance torque converter or another one in order to make some gains, I really don understand why the 540 G30 comes with a different torque converter than the 440, 340 cars? Thank you.

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven't seen anything regarding that. I don't know of any 5 series with slipping torque converters, even with big turbos

  • @nallanw4329
    @nallanw4329 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info! Just wondered if you think xHP adds much wear and tear/could add issues with reliability and longevity at all? I know you mentioned the torque limiters stock operate well below the safe levels for the zf8.

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    With these features no. In part 2 i will talk more about the options that can

  • @yuncheng8742
    @yuncheng8742 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Kern, I really love all the videos you put out; they're very informative! I have a question, I have a 540i and it's on stage 3 XHP and stage 2 BM3. When the car shifts in comfort plus, I feel a jerk which I don't want to feel. Is there a way to have OEM settings for comfort plus and then stage 3 XHP on sport + or should I use stage 2 XHP and it should be less aggressive on comfort plus?

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    It's probably the slow shifts in comfort +. Try selecting one of the presets in the shiftmap options

  • @kevekulcsar5732
    @kevekulcsar57322 ай бұрын

    Is it normal with stage 3 that the shift on low throttle and low rpm that the shifts from 1 to 2 break my neck? Or is it just part of the aggressive experience thing?

  • @aTakoinaMako
    @aTakoinaMako Жыл бұрын

    Stage 2 was my go to, but then they removed fast manual shifting in DSC off mode in the latest version.

  • @LuizPauloDT

    @LuizPauloDT

    7 ай бұрын

    I noticed that in one of the track days earlier this year. Had to move to Stage 3

  • @yanisbondar
    @yanisbondar Жыл бұрын

    What is the current only way to get more power out of POST 06/2020 produced b58s. So like for example a 2021 m340i. And are there any companies working to figure out a way to unlock them without having to send them to femto? Its been 2 years since those b58s came out, shouldnt there be some kind of progress on figuring out a way to crack the dmes?

  • @Dan330i
    @Dan330i Жыл бұрын

    Have a 330i f30 2018 and mine is stage 2 and it’s pretty fast

  • @rossclarke10169
    @rossclarke10169 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve found recently that the custom Launch control is now working really well. Tested on Stage 2+ RWD 440i with XF8 took half a second off my 0-60 time.

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    I'll have to give it a shot 👌🏾

  • @mark-ui8lu
    @mark-ui8lu5 ай бұрын

    Can you create custom calibrations with the XHD package? So is it a software package or just a flash tool for OTS maps?

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    5 ай бұрын

    you can use it to flash custom transmission tunes, yes.

  • @ian.gomez_
    @ian.gomez_ Жыл бұрын

    One question I have always had is, how hard are these tunes on the transmission/ overall health and longevity in general? I had to flash stage 3 after installing my big turbo as stage 2 was limiting the torque pulling from 50’s and would cause a split second loss of power before picking back up.

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    Generally it isn't an issue. But some settings allow you to push the limits so you should be aware of what's happening before you go that far

  • @ian.gomez_

    @ian.gomez_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kern417 Thanks brother! Quality content as always 🙌🏽

  • @pissywilly
    @pissywilly Жыл бұрын

    I have an mhd stage 2+ 440i and run stage 2 xhp transmission tune. Stage 3 was too hard for my liking

  • @3RunnaWRLD-fp4xr

    @3RunnaWRLD-fp4xr

    11 ай бұрын

    You can just change your shifts to neutral or relaxed for softer shifts

  • @jv_f30

    @jv_f30

    6 ай бұрын

    @@3RunnaWRLD-fp4xrwhere is the option for that?

  • @BMW_DAILY

    @BMW_DAILY

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@jv_f30under shift points I believe

  • @phantom2k10

    @phantom2k10

    18 күн бұрын

    ​@@3RunnaWRLD-fp4xrbefore I installed xhp,comfort shifting in manual was relatively fast,but that all changed when I had xhp installed.Comfort shifting was almost like the zf6-slow as F.Is it possible to have the comfort shifts as normal or similar to sport and other modes?

  • @johnmccallmusic
    @johnmccallmusic Жыл бұрын

    Bro... I love your channel! So helpful. Okay, I am going to buy XHP but I need to fix my 540i first. Can you help me, please... Ever since I upgraded to the B58TU fuel pump. I can not get my car to make any aggressive pops. I use BootMod3 and running the Stage 2 plus. I have a stock exhaust, VSFR high flow downpipe, charge pipe upgrade, and K&N air filter. With that said... I could make it very loud before the new fuel pump install. Do you have any clue what might be going on? I have tried refreshing back to stock and then back to the tune. I changed the custom burbles to max and it still sounds the same. Help please. Thank you!❤

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    Not sure. I would message PTF for help addressing it. A pump doesn't do anything with burbles.

  • @o-oo-oo-o3234
    @o-oo-oo-o3234 Жыл бұрын

    Would anyone be able to speak to long term reliability? Looking to flash xHP stage 2 with either JB4 piggyback or BM3 stage 1. What kind of logging should be done to monitor ZF 8 speed performance?

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    It works great and reliability. Reading adaptations will be the best opportunity to confirm trans health

  • @kwakufordjour9568
    @kwakufordjour95689 ай бұрын

    I am yet to buy xHP just for ignition cut aka upshift farts. Can I go with stage 2 but then add ignition cut?

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    8 ай бұрын

    sure

  • @Vince370796
    @Vince370796 Жыл бұрын

    You forfot something about stage 2 vs stage 3, and this is DSC off. Manual mode is really slower in dsc off in stage 2, there's a delay between shifts and in stage 3 they are instant. That's why I went stage 3. I just turned down throttle blips to minimum in settings because they were pushing the car when braking.

  • @KurumaDesigns
    @KurumaDesigns Жыл бұрын

    Doesn’t also xhp reduce lag in manual mode? Like when you hit the paddle or shifter to gear up, there is less of a delay before the transmission shifts. I don’t have experience with xhp myself so I don’t know if this is true.

  • @bfidy8

    @bfidy8

    Жыл бұрын

    It does shift faster and harder, especially sport plus and DSC off. I'm currently on xhp stage 2

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    They modify the shift mapping so it's more sensitive and downshifts earlier

  • @mevans8646

    @mevans8646

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I have stage 3 and it’s far more responsive.

  • @SpiderGamesHard
    @SpiderGamesHard Жыл бұрын

    Once you go hybrid on the 340 I’d be interested to see what you change in the settings. While they raise the rpm a tiny bit it still goes into 8th fast at low rpms and kinda bogs you a bit if you have max torque at 3-3500rpm. Tried sportive shift map in the editor but it’s still not rly where I want it

  • @alexk4804

    @alexk4804

    Жыл бұрын

    in the options where you chose sportive you can also do custom to change when each gear shifts

  • @przemekgodzik56

    @przemekgodzik56

    Жыл бұрын

    Im also curious how hybrid turbo affects to normal daily driving with D mode, is there still enough power to drive 1200-1500rpm ?

  • @SpiderGamesHard

    @SpiderGamesHard

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alexk4804 yeah but not sure how I should go about doing that. The presets don’t add the same % to each gear and if you do it wrong it can make the car really weird to drive. If you have some settings I’d love to try em! The standard xHP shiftmaps are def made for stock turbo. Adjusting a slider with a % is hard to gauge compared to just setting an rpm Ideally in d mode, rpm would be at like 1800 while cruising but shift down with a little gas to be in the power band more and feel less sluggish. Shifting at 3k with 25-40% throttle and higher at 4-5k above 50% throttle. And hold 6th and 7th gear longer so you’re not in 8th gear at 50mph. May try sportive+ instead of sportive next

  • @SpiderGamesHard

    @SpiderGamesHard

    Жыл бұрын

    @@przemekgodzik56 depending on which hybrid mechanically they will spool different. pure800 or the smaller daw turbos can spool pretty fast while the ultra flow will spool slower. Regardless, most tuners won’t give you full boost till 3500 even if the turbo spools faster to protect the stock motor. I’ve driven my og pure800 car for a while and like to be in d mode comfort around town and cruising on the freeway. It’s not undriveable but changing the shift maps would greatly help. The standard stage 3 shiftmaps are a bit lazy imo

  • @przemekgodzik56

    @przemekgodzik56

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SpiderGamesHard Id like to take turbosystems stage 2. Its not big turbo, maximum untill 600hp. Stock turbo is crusing around 1200-1600rmp and im curious if on turbosystems stage 2 will be simmilar with daily driving or its gonna be annoying

  • @e92marr
    @e92marr Жыл бұрын

    went straight to stage 3, and my trans began overheating on very hot days after 30 min and would take a bit to overheat on cooler days, not sure if this is common or has happened to anyone or if it has to do with xhp or another issue, but any info or advice?

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    How do you know it was overheating?

  • @pedroloureiro874
    @pedroloureiro87410 ай бұрын

    I’ve bought an m2c with stage 1 (550hp/700nm) but I think without TCU tune. The other day went into limp mode and my transmission act weird,and had propulsor error in the dashboard and CEL. After 30mins started the car up and looked finês. Now I am wondering if it needs a TCU tune. Could it be hitting a torque limiter?

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    10 ай бұрын

    i suppose it's possible but not likely. you need to scan for codes in those scenarios to see what's wrong

  • @pedroloureiro874

    @pedroloureiro874

    10 ай бұрын

    @@kern417 there was errors from the transmission,it had a short circuit between the connection of engine and transmissionCU. But if it hits torque limiters shouldnt go limp mode? Also I was pushing the car hard in high revs

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    10 ай бұрын

    without the codes it's no use trying to guess. your other option is to run a log.

  • @onekind1554
    @onekind1554 Жыл бұрын

    so on WOT stage 2 and stage 3 have the same shift speed?

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    With everything else equally yes. A lot of it depends on your drive mode and transmission mode, but they have it set up to automatically go to the fastest shift mode when you're wide open throttle.

  • @Mr-ni2cc
    @Mr-ni2cc Жыл бұрын

    I'm thinking of going MHD stage 2 on my daily, should I proceed to purchase xHP? I'm not racing or doing anything like that, just want that power.

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    It's great with any tune. It just improved drivability overall. I think stage 2 is the perfect Middle ground.

  • @tristanflyRR100s
    @tristanflyRR100s Жыл бұрын

    Is their a trans tune for b46? Im running 93 octane stage 2 bootmod3 with multiple upgrades

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    This should work with b46/b48

  • @marcussilva8440
    @marcussilva8440 Жыл бұрын

    I love stage 2 with custom options Yeet

  • @tjtalford5331
    @tjtalford5331 Жыл бұрын

    I was told by my tuner not to run 3 unless built Trans. 2nd tune they wouldn't dyno it until I went back to stage 1

  • @willm2624
    @willm2624 Жыл бұрын

    Would you say stage 2 will produce the same times as stage 3? Also I’ve heard people claim that the line bump is not active 100% of the time, and that it increases the pressure as it sees that it needs it. Do you know which of those statements is true? Thanks for the content Kevin.

  • @itsdakku

    @itsdakku

    Жыл бұрын

    This comment^^^

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    with the right settings it's the same. just depends. stage 3 will put you in the fastest shifting modes more often.

  • @Echelonperformance
    @Echelonperformance Жыл бұрын

    Those of us with a90s is it worth adding sport plus thru Bimmercode with xhp or stay with ots maps

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    I think so. If it's like F30, it just combines all the fastest modes from everything, plus softened traction control to let the wheels slip a bit. It's great for performance and fun.

  • @kabir2924
    @kabir292411 ай бұрын

    Is stage 2 best for ‘18 m240i xdrive mhd stage 1 93 octane?

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    11 ай бұрын

    You have to drive them and choose the one that you prefer. One isn't necessarily better than the other, it's up to user preference.

  • @fitimio001
    @fitimio00110 ай бұрын

    🤲 Kern B58 god 🙏

  • @Musti.a09
    @Musti.a0911 ай бұрын

    Can you do stage 3 map and stage 3 trans map on a stock car? (BMW G20 320I)

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    11 ай бұрын

    What is a stage 3 map

  • @Musti.a09

    @Musti.a09

    11 ай бұрын

    Sorry the question is, will it be okey if you do a stage 3 trans tune using (xhpflashtool) on a stock car?

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @Starscream8896
    @Starscream8896 Жыл бұрын

    If I’m getting a combustion engine torque limitation active code will xhp fix this? Im on a custom e85 tune

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    If you don't have xhp then you will trigger limiters depending on how much torque the car is requesting

  • @Starscream8896

    @Starscream8896

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kern417 i got xhp stage 3 but still getting the shadow codes sadly. Will see what my tuner says

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    Is the load/boost going over target in your logs?

  • @Starscream8896

    @Starscream8896

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kern417 yeah but now it only flags the torque flag near redline (6.6k rpms) so seems to be fixed on this newest revision I got today 🤙

  • @jeffreyvd8213
    @jeffreyvd82139 ай бұрын

    do i need a specific wifi dongle or can i just buy one of Amazon? thanks for the vid

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    8 ай бұрын

    need a specific one. i recommend mhd universal it works with everything

  • @jeffreyvd8213

    @jeffreyvd8213

    8 ай бұрын

    thanks broski @@kern417

  • @alexisfigueroa7999
    @alexisfigueroa7999 Жыл бұрын

    Does it matter what stage mhd I am ? I’m currently stage 1 MHD on my 340i. Contemplating buying my dp and going stage 2 or buying xhp what’s your thought. If I go xhp is stage 2 ok whilst mhd is stage 1

  • @technopro-kz4xv

    @technopro-kz4xv

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, no need to match the stages, i’m also on Stage 1 with MHD but stage 2 with xHP on my (B58 Gen1) 440i GC and it’s awesome! Go for it, it worth the money 😉👌I’m really happy with the performance!

  • @HargunSV

    @HargunSV

    Жыл бұрын

    Currently stage 1 340i rwd, im going xhp stage 2 before i get a DP. I’ll prob end up doing some suspension work and sway bars before i go stage 2. Also gotta make sure your tire setup can put that power down. So it really depends on your goals and if you’re ready for stage 2. and a stage 2 transmission tune will work fine with a stage 1 ecu tune, you shouldn’t have to worry about matching the stages. Personally I would go with xHP tune next, it’s fairly cheap and no install required. Dp is also pretty affordable and if you already have MHD license then ur good to go whenever you pop it in.

  • @alexisfigueroa7999

    @alexisfigueroa7999

    Жыл бұрын

    @@technopro-kz4xv I used to work at bmw as a porter and would always drive the m340is and now I can say my 340i shifts and feels like an m340i now hahaha glad I took your advice

  • @alexisfigueroa7999

    @alexisfigueroa7999

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HargunSV i agreed with u about the tires and suspension your comment highly influenced me to go trans tune after all thanks bro

  • @Y.D.43210

    @Y.D.43210

    Жыл бұрын

    The one has nothing to do with the other. I had xHP Stage 3 before I even tuned the engine! So Stage 0 + Stage 3. Still plenty of advantages.

  • @ebigford34
    @ebigford34 Жыл бұрын

    xhp stage 3 works better and smoother than stage 2 with my 440i bm3 stage 2 e30 flex tune. regardless, you can change settings with any stage for torque, shift aggression, etc.

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    That's really the key. It doesn't hurt to try all the maps and just pick what you prefer. I'm still confident a lot of feedback is placebo but ultimately going with what you like will make the experience more enjoyable.

  • @lowereastsideastrologist7769
    @lowereastsideastrologist7769 Жыл бұрын

    I'm on Stage 2.... DRAG MODE.... Moderately spirited driving, - never go above 3500 RPM and it's lasted 1300 miles. Clutch adaptions look the same.

  • @ScottPC
    @ScottPC Жыл бұрын

    I’ve got stage 3 installed and really don’t find it jerky at all. Depends on user I suppose. The new M135i /M235i have the worst and harshest gear tunes I’ve ever experienced from factory. It literally lurches forward when it shifts gears 😂

  • @Y.D.43210

    @Y.D.43210

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly my point! Stage 3 is absolutely nothing in comparison!! It must be said the M135i has a different gearbox though, not ZF, but fact remains - in Sport (out of factory) it kicks you like an angry stallion!! Stage 3 is a kitten playing in comparison... so I also don't understand what jerkiness people complain about.

  • @ScottPC

    @ScottPC

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Y.D.43210 yeah I’ve heard it’s not ZF but it’s hugely more aggressive than even stage 3 XHP 😂 Could class it as stage 5 in comparison 😂

  • @F60Stunt
    @F60Stunt Жыл бұрын

    Kern Audi enemy #1

  • @ahhhh226
    @ahhhh226 Жыл бұрын

    i went straight to stage 3 and its perfect for all round driving, i love the DCT type shifting in DSC off/sport+, the manual shifts are instant its so good in comfort and sport mode the shifting is still super smooth basically like oem, but sometimes wish the sport mode had harsher shifting as i dont always want to go into sport+ or dsc to have a hoon around. oh and wonder why in comfort and sport mode manual shifting is slower than oem lol

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    Apparently they changed that in one of the updates. I never used it before now so can't really compare

  • @ahhhh226

    @ahhhh226

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kern417 I’m on 1.7 and manual upshifting in comfort and sport is quite slow

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ahhhh226 yeah same i just haven't experienced any different for frame of reference. If i want fast shifts i go to sport +

  • @MrMendez

    @MrMendez

    Жыл бұрын

    Whats your mods? im gonna be getting xhp soon and not knowing whether to go straight to stage 3 or stop at 2 (stock m340i)

  • @Y.D.43210
    @Y.D.43210 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, but one very essential detail you missed out is that the difference in shifts between Stage 2 and Stage 3 is ONLY in Sport+ / Manual, not in Sport or Comfort, which remain the same in both stages!! This is crucial for those of us who drive predominately in Comfort and Sport and use Sport+ / M (or practically S) only when really aiming and expecting maximum performance and maximum aggressiveness!! Also, maybe it is something I've read but forgotten - are you suggesting in Stage 2, shifts are faster in Sport+ compared to Sport? Do you know for sure / can you confidently feel that? IMO they are the same (faster than in Comfort, of course). Apart from that - I tried both Stage 2 and Stage 3 (starting with Stage 2). To me, Stage 3 in Sport+ / Manual is not at all as jerky as some people describe it, the shifts are harder but N O T H I N G compared to e.g. M135i's stock (!) gearbox shifts in Sport, which crack your back on every shift. And since I rarely use Sport+ (and when I do - I don't mind the extra sauce) - I stayed with Stage 3, as in Comfort and Sport it is essentially Stage 2. therefore again - it is crucial to understand that Stage 2 Comfort = Stage 3 Comfort and Stage 2 Sport = Stage 3 Sport!!

  • @bsturn

    @bsturn

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I can tell you for Stage2 that shifts are faster in Sport+ than Sport (I believe the app mentions this.) This may depend on your iDrive settings though, for me with S2NH, I can chose whether to have dampening adjusted in Sport or Sport+ only.

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    That's exactly what i said at 11:50. Maybe you missed it.

  • @Y.D.43210

    @Y.D.43210

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kern417 My bad - you do mention it there indeed, but I would have put a huge spell on it. That's the key for understanding the difference between Stage 2 and Stage 3 and for choosing a Stage. There is a common misconception that Stage 3 is "harsh" and even "dangerous" irrespective of the mode which absolutely isn't true.

  • @Y.D.43210

    @Y.D.43210

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bsturn Not sure what M Sport Brakes (S2NH) have to do with the transmission but I get your point about manually setting Sport mode. In my case Sport is with its default settings and I am not confident the shifts with Stage 2 Sport+ are any different than in Sport. Happy to be corrected. From memory xHP only say that the drive modes control the shift speeds, but that doesn't necessarily mean that there are 4 shift speed modes - in reverse order the shifts are not any softer in EcoPro than they are in Comfort.

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Y.D.43210 This is an overview video. The primary point is to show that one stage isn't designed for more power like engine tuning ots maps. They just enable different features in different settings. It doesn't make sense to harp on just one feature.

  • @WhiteBeardDetail
    @WhiteBeardDetail Жыл бұрын

    You have a discord or any other place to ask questions? Facebook group

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    search B58 Discussion on Facebook

  • @beckmarchiniak716

    @beckmarchiniak716

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kern417 is it ok to go stage 2 on stock boost?

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    yes

  • @sbeezynukka
    @sbeezynukka Жыл бұрын

    I ran stage 1 but it didn’t give me the results I wanted, 3 allowed my car to get sideways

  • @coastss

    @coastss

    2 күн бұрын

    How is the long term reliability? Im stage 2 rn but i want to go to 3. Do you think its fine on a stock transmission?

  • @sbeezynukka

    @sbeezynukka

    2 күн бұрын

    @@coastss im running it on a stock transmission too

  • @litspeed7940
    @litspeed79402 ай бұрын

    That’s what m car does in drive. Bogs down and shifts through every gear!! Why is that? I’m tuned stage 3 on car and trans

  • @KidWitDaM
    @KidWitDaM9 ай бұрын

    Do i need the map pack or just the license

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    9 ай бұрын

    Depends on what tune you want

  • @itsdakku
    @itsdakku Жыл бұрын

    Does stage 3 mess with reliability? The extra aggression kinda scares me… or should I be okay

  • @technopro-kz4xv

    @technopro-kz4xv

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it could wear quicker your gearbox… i’m on Stage 2 and believe me, that would be enough specially if you are running any stage with MHD or BM3…

  • @itsdakku

    @itsdakku

    Жыл бұрын

    @@technopro-kz4xv yeah I don’t even go into sport plus because it’s so aggressive, I’m going to tune to stage 2, it feels the best

  • @willm2624
    @willm2624 Жыл бұрын

    Oh hell no, they tried to take away my badge 😤🤬

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah bruh 🤺

  • @kennyharvey3580
    @kennyharvey3580 Жыл бұрын

    Talk about Vanos Actuators

  • @kern417

    @kern417

    Жыл бұрын

    Coming soon

  • @schumiisking
    @schumiisking Жыл бұрын

    For those of us running stock, xhp ruined my car. It took away the hard aggressive shifts of the standard factory map in Sport mode. When I then tried to revert back to factory map, it took some updated stock map from somewhere....their servers.... And not the original map from my car. So I've now forever lost the enjoyable jerky shifts in sport mode, as well as the "fart noises" on upshifts. Total disaster.

  • @socratesnotis

    @socratesnotis

    Жыл бұрын

    If you want sharp gear changes you really need to put the car in Sport+ and to go in S mode (stick to left) or manual mode. For me, the shifts are crazy fast !

  • @ganuv
    @ganuv Жыл бұрын

    I don’t know about that I had stage 2 and I think stage 3 is faster and much more fun than stage 2

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