In 2017, we met up again with Ironhead Studio to talk about the making of Hela's jaw-dropping costume from Thor: Ragnarok. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aIqct8GNZJmZo7g.html

That's appalling he didn't get a screen credit. Quite often caterers and assistants get a credit, where as creatives who shape the look of the film get none. In some weird karma, the movie isn't getting the best reception, so I hope this guy gets the credit he deserves for the aesthetics of the piece

@danjo3012

8 жыл бұрын

Shame. It's an awesome movie.

@jetvoidweller

8 жыл бұрын

+Danjo Fett It's a fun movie. I wouldn't say its bad, but it is far from amazing.

@PCBSLC

8 жыл бұрын

+JurassicCollectables I'd imagine that screen credits are handled like compensation. I know that's why most other workers even get a credit. Their unions have gained the credit by contract. Even actors negotiate how they are credited along with their pay. Still a shame that his studio wasn't mentioned as the costume design was probably the best part of that movie!

@BlimpMcGee

8 жыл бұрын

+JurassicCollectables So true

@TheBLT883

8 жыл бұрын

+JurassicCollectables what movie you guys talking about?

That fucking apocalypse jesus why couldnt fox make him look like that

@persistall

8 жыл бұрын

+NightOwl Promotions As a child watching apocalypse on Xmen and comicbooks I envisioned him looking this way if he ever made film. Now I'm disappointed. I may wait for this movie to come out on DVD.

@REaDComicsau

Жыл бұрын

Marvel Studios definitely would if they do him.

Ughhhh....His Apocalypse design is so perfect

@TheSweetestCurse

8 жыл бұрын

too bad they didn't use it :/

@adamgarcia7192

8 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@gamesAVALetsPlays

8 жыл бұрын

+TheSweetestCurse Crying about it again ? Get over it

@TheSweetestCurse

8 жыл бұрын

Andi X what's worse, complaining about a shitty design or bitching over an internet comment?

@trufantom21

8 жыл бұрын

TheSweetestCurse lol

Tested, you guys need to do more with this guy, get into his studio, see his build and design process.

@SurrogateMerville

8 жыл бұрын

+Stephen Morrish (PendragonUK) I second this notion! Please, I'de love to see how he and his team work!

@Swatches

8 жыл бұрын

+Stephen Morrish (PendragonUK) Completely agree, would love to see more videos about Ironhead studios and their processes.

@vanklaasdraws8270

8 жыл бұрын

+Stephen Morrish (PendragonUK) Yep, Make him one of the Tested Family.

@Dennild

8 жыл бұрын

+Stephen Morrish (PendragonUK) Gonna be hard he probably have tons of NDA in the shop

@comicsarmory742

8 жыл бұрын

yes

this video was so fucken awesome. that dude is the man. 20 YEARS freelance and he never gave up. thats incredible. i really hope this blows up on reddit and he gets the credit he deserves.

@cwoherem

8 жыл бұрын

+SlevinTheBlade gotta give you a like there! Agreed, the amount of work put in is just astounding!

Its insane to me that he didn't get credit for his work. The lord of the rings dvd/bluerays had hours of footage of Weta workshop from every apartment, honoring their work and skill.

@HoldFastFilms

8 жыл бұрын

+Ender Running I mean, right? Especially these days when studios like to brag how they employed tens of thousand of people in the production ... shame on them!

@HoldFastFilms

8 жыл бұрын

***** How in the hell is one supposed to build up a resume and career if you are never to show any of your work? That's insane!

@carlosbovia6813

Жыл бұрын

Well, he is proudly mexican, so they just kind of say f*ck it... nobody cares..

@filmgoblin5016

7 ай бұрын

@@HoldFastFilmshe technically still can by showing the actual work he’s done and putting in references from other people. That’s how and why he still keeps getting work cus he still gets credit just not official screen credit.

This is the kind of man who deserves all the recognition he can get. Just listening to him you can tell how passionate he is. Now I'm also pissed off that he doesn't get screen credit in movies when he's one of the primary driving forces

@carlosbovia6813

Жыл бұрын

Well, he is proudly mexican, so they just kind of say f*ck it... nobody cares..

how does he not get screen credit, while caterers get screen credit??

@TheWheezingSeeker

8 жыл бұрын

right

@ragerodracir

8 жыл бұрын

+truantray Because you can't eat helmets.

@edmundrimando7130

8 жыл бұрын

+Rager Helmer 😂

@PoorMansGuidetoMovies

8 жыл бұрын

I'm sure Zack Snyder gave himself all the credit.

@AlutaShade

8 жыл бұрын

Not with that attitude you can't.

Yup, his apocalypse is vastly superior, they were stupid not to choose him.

@iceomistar4302

3 жыл бұрын

And more comic accurate too

This guy will blow up in this scene. I can't believe he has had work not credited in full feature films. That's a joke.

@samanthalebeau4268

8 жыл бұрын

+sample text It's criminal that he is not getting credit in movies. His work is beyond phenomenal. Absolutely amazing talent. Not that the Batman costume isn't just incredible (cuz it IS), but that Apocalypse is freaking PERFECT. And, I must also say, great job by the interviewer. Asked really solid questions, was knowledgeable, and kept the viewer interested by steering the conversation the right direction. Well done, all around :)

@dodgyb2001

8 жыл бұрын

+sample text He is so ripped off, his work is what makes a lot of these characters. Always when you hear the actor talking, they almost always say "as soon as you put on the costume, that gets you into the mindset". Incredible work which should get more credit.

@Sorakasharri

8 жыл бұрын

+Mike Green same thing happens in design fields where you cant say you work on certain projects cause as part of the terms working for them.

they didn't gave the guy credits in the movie? how? why?

@wFrost

8 жыл бұрын

+Anton Ligaard Siem Still not justified just because they "Forgot"

@bragr_

8 жыл бұрын

+Dimitri Bitu Well this is a wild ass guess, but considering that I frequently see prop companies in the credits for movies, I'm guessing that he didn't get that in his contract with the studios. Whether that's because he couldn't get it, or he is just not good at negotiation, I can't tell. Either way he seems pretty butthurt for a guy that seems to be getting plenty of work, so clearly the right people have heard of his work.

@MadnessRealm

8 жыл бұрын

+bragr1 "Either way he seems pretty butthurt for a guy that seems to be getting plenty of work, so clearly the right people have heard of his work." I think it's that, from the point of view of an artist, having someone use your work without crediting you is a bit like that person claiming to be the one who made it. Sure it's not the end of the world when it's a quick drawing that no one cared about, but when you put a lot of work into it, it's good to get that recognition, that when people think of xyz, they think of you.

@DSDMovies

8 жыл бұрын

+Charzey Only a hack feels that way. These guys are artists.

@GuyWithAnAmazingHat

8 жыл бұрын

+Charzey How much is a 'shit load' of money? Let's say, you mean becoming a millionaire, which is practically impossible for any artist in the film industry who isn't an actor, director or producer. In fact most artists get paid less than office jobs and freelancers don't have a stable income, a single commission takes a huge amount of time and effort and you'll have to start looking for another one quickly before you run out of money. And to get that next job, you need to be credited and recognised. To an artist, credit is everything, it is more important than money. To get money and more importantly, remain motivated, you need recognition, which comes with creditation.

Fox fucked up, his version of Apocalypse is way better than the one in the trailers.

@alphajames33

8 жыл бұрын

Much better. And completely faithfull representation of the comics look.

@MizuMark

8 жыл бұрын

totally agreed this would have looked absolutely mind blowingly unreal to have seen in the new movie

@calvin4912

8 жыл бұрын

I agree, this version looks awesome

@davidhoggan5376

8 жыл бұрын

+Veo Yah, totally! The film version is really weak. When will the studios learn to stay faithful to the materials they are sourcing.

@fredde88888888

8 жыл бұрын

+Veo you are soo right, this version is thousands time better

How many people can actually put on their resume that they've designed a real space suit that will be used in space! That's crazy!

That Black Panther helmet looks frikkin' amazing, it's a piece of art, truly something made for a King ;) 6:45

@2kosher

5 жыл бұрын

like the inscriptions mean something to an ancient tribe.

Goddamn this guy worked on some amazing projects and quite casually mentions he also designed a spacesuit. Hats off to him, definitely deserves a lot more credit.

His Apocalypse looks so much better than the one they went for in the new movie, although I wonder if it would have been a lot tougher to act in.

So damn cool to me that he/they worked on Bicentennial Man.

@tested

8 жыл бұрын

+Video Sage so did Adam!

@JurassicCollectables

8 жыл бұрын

+Tested great movie

@ConradLarsonGaming

8 жыл бұрын

+Tested Why am I not surprised XD Damn good job.

@awesomo660

8 жыл бұрын

Didn't expect you here

Wow I can't believe he didn't get credit... The costumes from BvS were INCREDIBLE.

@T3MPL3TillIdIe

8 жыл бұрын

great costumes #ironheadstudio

@bkniight522

8 жыл бұрын

+Sam A fuck the batman vs superman credit did u see that apocalypse... holy shit.....

that black panther helmet is fucking art. its a beautiful helmet

Saw Civil War yesterday, black panther looks so cool

@cryphofobia7450

8 жыл бұрын

Me too, ikr!

@leonarduskrisna4588

8 жыл бұрын

No one die on civil war And that disappointment

@leonarduskrisna4588

8 жыл бұрын

Rumlow not included

@megamaxmax4

8 жыл бұрын

+Ronnie Lockett You know Civil War doesn't come out until the 5th, right?

@manuelramirez8520

8 жыл бұрын

+megamaxmax4 some places already out

This guy is pure artist, really genius.

That Apocalypse is so much better.

@thebrothersthre3987

8 жыл бұрын

+Talha Masood AGREED!

@silax

8 жыл бұрын

+Talha Masood yeah, he nailed it.

@kwaaaa

8 жыл бұрын

+Talha Masood The movie version looks like an Ivan Ooze reject, lol.

@thebrothersthre3987

8 жыл бұрын

+kwa Singer makes good movies but his costumes suck, usually.

@PainandMotivation

8 жыл бұрын

+Talha Masood Yeah I know. Marvel wanted a never before Apocalypse.

This man deserves more attention.

They need to make a Black Panther motorcycle helmet that's DOT approved

@daviong03

8 жыл бұрын

Hell yea I'd definitely drop bills on that!

They should've won the Apocalypse costume contract.

@AceGamingCentral

8 жыл бұрын

+John Suarilla Thats how I have always pictured Apocalypse since the early 90's cartoons. It looks way better.

@the.gentlemanrogue

8 жыл бұрын

He made the sculpt after he lost the bid. If they presented both designs then I'm sure he would've won. The other company forked over more cash to create something of lesser authenticity. Typical Hollywood.

@gamesAVALetsPlays

8 жыл бұрын

+LegionGameNet What if they just liked the other design, doesn't mean it's cheap

@bvanhaun

8 жыл бұрын

+John Suarilla It's Bryan Singer. He doesn't want any of the costumes to be comic book accurate.

@legopieface

8 жыл бұрын

+billjohn Stop it with that mob mentality. The dude prefers "tactical" suits in some cases, however if you watch First Class or even just search images of Xmen Apocalypse you can see the classic look. Nightcrawler, Psylocke, Storm, Magneto, and Archangel are all extremely influenced by comics.

As an artist that made props for a music video, I feel his feels. I was told BY the producer that I couldn't take credit for it. I am actually STILL pissed about that.

@DaedalusProps

8 жыл бұрын

***** Pretty much.

@lemongoat2480

8 жыл бұрын

+DemonWeasel1990 Did you sign a document that said you couldn't? Otherwise, I'd say I made it.

@DaedalusProps

8 жыл бұрын

Lemon Goat Didn't sign shit actually. It was an impromptu gig. Didn't sign an NDA or contract of any sort.

@IGarrettI

8 жыл бұрын

+DemonWeasel1990 next time have them sign a property deal, basics of freelance

@lemongoat2480

8 жыл бұрын

DemonWeasel1990 Then I guess there is nothing they could legally do to you. So you could run around saying what you want.

That Apocalypse design is a million times better than what they put in the movie.

@Justinhondroulis1

8 жыл бұрын

+Kris Cross By far! This was what I was wanting Apocalypse to look like. Sometimes Hollywood gets it right and sometimes they get it wrong. I think this time it was a fail. This true comic version should have been used instead, smh...

@Justinhondroulis1

8 жыл бұрын

+reversedouche Yeah, I just finished watching the movie and a different/classic look for Apocalypse would have been WAY better! maybe they'll learn from this mistake.

@swimmingagainsttheti

7 жыл бұрын

I actually prefer the film version better. Yes this design is more accurate to the comics. But I love the film version. They really incoprated the Egyptian culture in that design.

That apocalypse is so much better looking then then the Ivan Ooze one my goodness.

how the hell do you build important costume pieces for billion dollars movies and not get screen credit

@barryallen7083

8 жыл бұрын

Hollywood for u

@ryansizemore5064

8 жыл бұрын

+john smitty glad to know about this man. really should be listed prominently in the credits. including the studio name. word of mouth wil carry this guy though. glad he is getting more exposure either way.

@royalfrog850

8 жыл бұрын

+john smitty intellectual property, contracting terms

@clarencezer

8 жыл бұрын

+john smitty You won't believe the amount of artist that are behind the scenes in movies.

@5054560anything

7 жыл бұрын

If you are working as an artist you can sign over your rights to the work and don't have to be given credit. as a result you make more money because *insert artists name* is not attached to the work. this happens in allot of collaborative efforts. the reason you get more money is because they want to buy the rights to the artwork that you are making so that the artist cant sell replicas/ reproductions. as a result once the artist steps away they wont always give him/her credit for the work. I don't know if this is 100% true for props but I know in the 2d arts world it is 100% true and id assume it carries over. if you want credit your not making the extra bank. I was advised while getting my degree that in an instance like this you can put on your resume that you worked with blah on blah and explain what you'd done but posting on a website or showcasing is something you'd ask for permission to do because *again* you sold the rights to the work.

i have to admit his Apocalypse looks way better then the shitty looking version that FOX went with.

@ever6

8 жыл бұрын

+The Sharingan Hell yeah this dude is the shit I like his apocalypse oh well blame it on fox

@AhLadiesman217

8 жыл бұрын

exactly

@teolarrea

8 жыл бұрын

+The Sharingan I think that he is Thanos not Apocalypse.

@AhLadiesman217

8 жыл бұрын

Nah man that was Apocalypse

The Black Panther head is amazing!

What the hell? This work is amazing? Its criminal to not get recognition for just beautiful and meticulous work!

damn i want to see that space suit

@alphaadhito

7 жыл бұрын

Quentin It comes in various colors as Gwyne said

That Black Panther helmet is awesome.

Say what you will about the story, TRON LEGACY was so damn pretty. Everything looked so cohesive too. Also, Ironhead needed to do Apocalypse. This one is better.

@ceciladams4882

8 жыл бұрын

AGREEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!...

Stayed through the Civil War credits...they were credited.

@wilsanchez78

8 жыл бұрын

I don't think he was referring to the Captain America Civil War movie. I believe he was referring the Batman V Superman movie as far as not being credited is concerned.

@WushuEric

8 жыл бұрын

+wilsanchez78 another way dc fucks up

@sotolongo9838

8 жыл бұрын

+WushuEric and thats why the movie is not going that well

I think it's an absolute travesty not to give this man the credit he deserves. He's made some of the most amazing helmets and costumes for decades and a big reason why these movies have done so well. Say what you want about the Batman vs Superman and Avengers movies but the costumes are badass

Norm is really getting better at doing these interviews. Im glad.

@Tapionski

8 жыл бұрын

+JohnDoe Agree. His early interviews he was so awkward almost cringe worthy.

his apocalypse looks so much better than how it is in the movie

That black panther helmet is flawless!

@d_money707

8 жыл бұрын

The black panther helmet is the best one.

@REaDComicsau

8 жыл бұрын

Civil war is the one

@Art3ga

6 жыл бұрын

New one sucks, tbh

his apocalypse is amazing!

interviewer is good, has good questions and you can see the delight on jose's face at some of the questions. this is how an interview should be done, good job.

I love Jordu Schell sneaking a peak in at 5:29

This guy is so pissed he didn't get screen cred... I mean who wouldn't be :(

So this is the guy who made the Daft Punk helmets! Respect!

All studio should listen to this guy for every movie

So he was responsible for the "Bat nipple"? These helmets are amazing! So cool.

@two-face1041

8 жыл бұрын

No The costume designer he just build it

@ironhide465

8 жыл бұрын

+Dan Kowcun No.... that would be the director -_-

@Gerald5000

8 жыл бұрын

+Dan Kowcun Look at his Apocalypse.. I doubt he was totally cool with the Bat-nipples Joel Schumacher wanted.

That APOCALYPSE looks waaaay better!!! How the hell did they not pick his?!

@AramisHall

8 жыл бұрын

+Ted Chiasson They wanted someone cheaper and it looks like that is what they got.

@tchiasson10

8 жыл бұрын

+Aramis Hall Horrible. I wish Singer was more true to the comics. I know he's a fan of the TV series but the comics are like gospel.

Did he just say "designed a spacesuit for SpaceX"?!! OMG i love this guy.

This apocalypse looks so much more amazing than the screen used one they went with. Sucks

The black panther helmet was probably the best prop I've ever seen, so cool

Thanks Mr. Fernandez for helping bring some of my child hood characters to life .

6:54 The Black Panther helmet looks incredible !!!!!! >> The detail and design is AMAZING!!

This guys work is absolute perfection Jesus Christ look at that black panther helmet and apocalypse design just wow that looks so amazing

Now THAT is Apocalypse.

Please do more with this man and his amazing company @tested!

My Favorites are the Panther helmet and Apocalypse Wow

@docmorrell

8 жыл бұрын

+Mixey The Black Panther helmet was amazing.

Jordu Schell 5:30 wanders into shot. That's awesome! :)

This is a phenomenal interview. The interviewer did a wonderful job. He had insightful questions and was able to talk about the hero paradigm without letting the costumes take a back seat to the movies. I am super impressed.

I just finished watching a recent episode of the Flash, and Jose reminds me a lot of Dr. Wells "Harry";s character. Intelligent, and the way he speaks... lol

@IndyStudios

8 жыл бұрын

I can see that

if these guys made the black panther suit, ku fucking dos

@joseph123747

8 жыл бұрын

Ikr, the Black Panther suit looks dope af

I like the fact that on both sides the questions and answers were so in depth and it felt more like a conversation than an interview.

Jordu Schell at 5:20

@bmarra14

8 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@IGarrettI

8 жыл бұрын

i had a feeling he will be there

@thedon008

8 жыл бұрын

+John Doe Hah. Nice. I hope they got an interview with him too.

@ageng.raditya

8 жыл бұрын

hahaha... doing stuff

The costumes he mentioned in BvS were great! Glad he's promoting his work and getting credit.

@therupoe

8 жыл бұрын

That Daredevil helmet is badass! I think I like it better than the one they chose.

Dooood!! Dat Apocalypse bust!. Shame this dude didn't get the job for it. That looks way better than the current look for Apocalypse.

So this is the guy designing the suits of SpaceX. Man they gonna look like super heroes in space! Awesome :)

This was a great interview, Norm! Love how excited and informed you were as the interviewer -- glad he's been showcased on Tested, now!

Dem Tron helmets, mmm, I wants one.

@7:38 If they could have pulled off that Apocalypse look for the movie, that would've been amazing. Movie's almost here!

I love this guy, so blunt, confident and proud of his work, every artist should be credited for their work.

Incredible, I can never get bored looking at those suites and masks and stuff like this.

How the heck does this guy (Ironhead) not get film credit for his work? Seriously it was too much trouble squeezing his name between the 100 caterers and gophers? I mean that batman helmet was so impressive it set the tone for all the trailers and really the attitude of the entire movie. Look at this guys work! Holy crap!

@khameronevans

8 жыл бұрын

To be honest... You couldn't be more right.

@javiercardenas9987

8 жыл бұрын

reading between the lines of the interview, it seems a matter of intelectual property, the studios will take credit for the gear so they can make toys, etc

@octpod3923

8 жыл бұрын

because he's Latino

@zainshaikh527

6 жыл бұрын

Javier Cardenas Exactly, licensing and then royalties keep these guys from the real cut and money. There's a reason why accredited guys other than WETA are not enterprising and selling this work as genuine replicas. All companies need to follow precedent. I suppose it could cut the price for collectors too. Doubt it since comic book companies take huge cuts, even more than actors for certain statues or them bring involved in measurements

Apocalypse looks bad ass and intimidating

this dude's amazing! black panther helmet has got to be one of the best helmet in modern cinema. it looks freaken awesome.

This guy reminds me of Harrison Wells from Flash.

This man is the real MVP.

This guy is very talented he definitely deserves more credit.

that guy is amazing, props dude. and he was willing to answer all your questions in detail. He is rightfully confident in his craft

wow! this was an outstanding interview! the interviewer had so much enthusiasm, knew his stuff. and that guys company with his attitude is going to continue to soar! thanks for this.

Wish they would have focused a bit on those Daft Punk helmets. Only caught a glimpse for just a moment.

@Bhuddlez

8 жыл бұрын

+Brian Fisher Was thinking the same thing!

@NeptraK

8 жыл бұрын

+Beau Huddleston seriously!!!! The whole time, I'm like, "talk about the damn Daft Punk helmets!!"

damn I wish they used this apocalypse

I'm happy that KZread recommended this video for me, and I didn't know he has done so much work in some of my favorite movies. He needs to get his due recognition.

Wow!!! Guys, I really appreciate you bringing this interview with Ironhead studios... Had no idea of the efforts that goes into making this stuff... Waiting for more interviews/videos of other studios as well...

This dude designed Spacex's spacesuit.. Wow.

This guy is awesome! No bullshit and pure passion. Love it.

Unbelievable that an amazing talented person like this that pretty much is the FACE OF THE MOVIES gets no credit! Without his (and his company's) designs the movies wouldn't have the effect that they do! I had no idea who they were and what they did, but I'm glad I do now. Thanks for shedding some light on this amazing talent Tested.

The black panther helmet is AMAZING, awesome details, and IRONHEAD should definitely be more known for all those fantastic movies they worked in.

Wow, the actual Apocalypse that we all recognize, yet they make him look like Ivan Oooze from power rangers....FUCK!

@MegaEssj408

8 жыл бұрын

+TOBI OBITO Ivan oooze was a great man!

what a great interview great job Norm

wow, I've never even thought about who makes the costumes in movies. it's good to see Tested giving these guys exposure and hopefully they'll get the recognition they deserve

What an amazing craftsman this guy is. Hopefully he gets more credit when he's involved. I also love that Jordu Schell is in the background admiring his stuff. Great artists are always pulled towards each other. Well done!

That apocalypse looks so much better

Black Panther ... O MY GOOOOD It's freaking perfect.

@kylebatu8734

8 жыл бұрын

+Retro radio it couldn't get any better

Thanks for this interview Tested and Norm! What a cool guy.

Thank you Tested for covering this amazing artist! I love Jose Fernandez's work!! I hope he gets the recognition he deserves or perhaps Warner Bros. will have him design the Justice League & give him proper credit. I also hope he designs the other BVS statues for Sideshow Collectibles ;)

I bet Fox regrets not getting this guy to design Apocalypse...

@zaiddiaz3811

8 жыл бұрын

Nah....they are too sober on money they are making

Apocalypse looks fucking GREAT!

I’d love to see his team go through the whole process of that Black Panther helmet!! 3D printing, filling, sanding, molding, casting and painting. Anyone that’s 3D printed that helmet knows just how detailed that thing is and how difficult it is to not lose detail during the process!! Such amazing work!!!

The props look amazing, always enjoyed helmet props and the methods going into it; Fantastic work.