Irish/Gaelic Monks in Iceland, The Faroe Islands and the Scottish Isles

We all know the Norse Vikings discovered Iceland in the middle of the 9th century, but how many of you knew that they were not the first to set foot on earth's 18th largest island? Irish or Scots-Irish monks are likely to have resided on Iceland as hermits seeking to follow in the footsteps of the Desert Fathers. They were the "Papar" referenced by the Icelandic Sagas Íslendingabók and Landnámabók, and though they were chased out by their new neighbours, their legacy can still be found by those who look.
An extra little bit of info on the Irish in Iceland following the newest research and archaeology:
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Пікірлер: 304

  • @AvailableUsernameTed
    @AvailableUsernameTed6 жыл бұрын

    It was a typo on the map that changed Ireland to Iceland. This caused the monks to be dropped off in the wrong place. As a result the Abbott banned ink fights in the rectory.

  • @kilgen28

    @kilgen28

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pipe2DevNull Maybe that should be “typo” in quotation marks. Unless these guys had an early typewriter. Also, the ink fights were in the scriptorium not the rectory. But minor technicality. Love the idea if the possibility. Thanks for the post.

  • @ggff3761

    @ggff3761

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pipe2DevNull no such thing as scotch Irish monks lad sorry to tell you that term refers to Scottish settlers who came to Ireland to replace the native Irish

  • @Nozylatten

    @Nozylatten

    6 жыл бұрын

    I am Scottish :)

  • @ErikBramsen
    @ErikBramsen6 жыл бұрын

    I lived on the Faroe Islands for a few years, and they look markedly different from Scandinavians and Icelanders, a lot of them displaying a strikingly Celtic phenotype: black hair, blue eyes and porcelain skin.

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    I would love to visit both at some point and film on location. Maybe one day I can save enough add revenue to see the people there for myself

  • @MajesticSkywhale

    @MajesticSkywhale

    6 жыл бұрын

    History With Hilbert I'm going to Iceland next year and I'm going to drive the whole ring road. Hmu if you wanna come, there's room

  • @MartieD

    @MartieD

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think Icelanders look quite Scandinavian, although I havent seen too many of them

  • @thundercliff93

    @thundercliff93

    6 жыл бұрын

    The505Guys perhaps Björk may have some influence from Saami descended North Norwegians Some medieval skeletal remains from Iceland show similar adaptations to people living in the Arctic regions like the Inuit and Saami

  • @massiveferguson9466

    @massiveferguson9466

    5 жыл бұрын

    Icelanders have a significant ancestral genetic component from places like Scotland/Ireland.This would have come from their slaves of course ,but also all the women that Norse would have intermarried with in those places, before some of them or their descendants moved on to Iceland.Their biggest genetic component is of course from Western Scandinavia.

  • @seanolaocha940
    @seanolaocha9404 жыл бұрын

    Fiseán iontach ar fad is ea é a Hilbert! It's great to see a channel that features some Irish content, unfortunately there aren't too many on KZread that do but you really make up for it!

  • @belobrdo1344
    @belobrdo13446 жыл бұрын

    I believe this is what also inspired the legends of "Hy-Brasil", an island that was put on maps somewhere west of ireland all the way up until around the 16-1700s. It was said to be inhabited by monks as well.

  • @sean668

    @sean668

    6 жыл бұрын

    Monks, and giant black rabbits. And a magician.

  • @willempasterkamp862

    @willempasterkamp862

    2 ай бұрын

    likely from Yggdrasil, old norse centric tree of the Cosmos, kind of an Atlantis or primal egg where the world was formed from. Wodan/odin killing a snake/Hydra ( a 7 headed headed water-dragon ) and creating the world from her body. sil = soul , the belly button or centre.

  • @TheModernHermeticist
    @TheModernHermeticist6 жыл бұрын

    That's awesome, I had no idea... and this is my jam...

  • @TienShanKush
    @TienShanKush6 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I rememeber reading about these gaelic hermits on Iceland a while ago, it's very interesting to hear more about them.

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    Garçon de poisson Glad you liked the video!

  • @zacharyjensen7661
    @zacharyjensen76616 жыл бұрын

    "And of course later on you get things like Saint Brendan with his voyages which could be an interesting topic for a future video" Do it.

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha we'll see what the poll results come out as :)

  • @sachemofboston3649

    @sachemofboston3649

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@historywithhilbert146 did you ever do it?

  • @papadoc711
    @papadoc7116 жыл бұрын

    Mon the Irish monks! Great video Hilbert...Poustina! X) lol

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    papadoc711 Haha cheers man!

  • @ggff3761

    @ggff3761

    6 жыл бұрын

    papadoc711 tiocfaidh ar la

  • @robertfletcher3421
    @robertfletcher34216 жыл бұрын

    This is such great history. Thanks.

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    Robert Fletcher Thanks for watching!

  • @crowsbaneful
    @crowsbaneful6 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to think this episode of history was like a prequel to Father Ted.

  • @NorthworthySagasStories

    @NorthworthySagasStories

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @ennisanderson2719
    @ennisanderson27196 жыл бұрын

    Great video ! I really enjoyed it. I hope you do more about the Irish and their wayward monks. That's a period little discussed but one I'd like to know more about.

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm planning to do a couple more in the future :)

  • @thundercliff93
    @thundercliff936 жыл бұрын

    Faroe islanders are also of Norsk Gaelic origin

  • @malvolio12345
    @malvolio123456 жыл бұрын

    Greetings from Iceland Hilbert! I really love that you focus on this island-country's history recently in your videos. Maybe you can also do one about the Icelandic Sagas which is an amazing Universe in its own. Keep up this awesome work, thank you very much!

  • @NorthworthySagasStories
    @NorthworthySagasStories6 жыл бұрын

    Very cool video and I enjoyed this with some really great detail. Thanks for making & sharing this History With Hilbert.

  • @gustavovillegas5909
    @gustavovillegas59096 жыл бұрын

    Your channel is the best, keep it up dude :)

  • @christopherellis2663
    @christopherellis26636 жыл бұрын

    You did this well, considering how little information survived. Tonsures look good. Thank you.

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    Christopher Ellis Thanks very much, I'm glad you're watching all the new videos!

  • @jmalko9152
    @jmalko91525 жыл бұрын

    Informative, thank you!

  • @HS-su3cf
    @HS-su3cf6 жыл бұрын

    I'm Papar the Sailor Monk.

  • @savioblanc

    @savioblanc

    6 жыл бұрын

    H S you need more likes hue hue hue

  • @maaan8494

    @maaan8494

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi papar well done for settling Iceland before the scandiwegians

  • @stefanatliorvaldsson3563
    @stefanatliorvaldsson35636 жыл бұрын

    the Irish are a big part of iceland history mostly as slaves (but today we do not have slaves we have the Polish ) p.s. my friend call me Irish because i have red hair, great video

  • @enqrbit

    @enqrbit

    6 жыл бұрын

    Stefán Atli Þorvaldsson aah the poles. They are everywhere, haha.

  • @stefanatliorvaldsson3563

    @stefanatliorvaldsson3563

    6 жыл бұрын

    not in Greenland

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    Interesting stuff man!

  • @collinwhelen7973

    @collinwhelen7973

    6 жыл бұрын

    There ethnicity in Iceland Scandinavian British Irish but there language a form of old Norse I’m a Swede so. I liked it when I found out one of us went to iceland

  • @user-se8mi2io1v

    @user-se8mi2io1v

    6 жыл бұрын

    And we, Poles, are even happy to replace your slaves. What a weird nation those Poles are, aren't they?

  • @me_meyou_youus_us
    @me_meyou_youus_us6 жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @jamessheehy2752
    @jamessheehy27526 жыл бұрын

    Also another great video

  • @theophilus5752
    @theophilus57526 жыл бұрын

    So glad I found this channel. Another video idea perhaps might be done on the colonial holdings of the Netherlands? (Or just focusing on one or two main locales)

  • @ZeldaZonk-zt8fr
    @ZeldaZonk-zt8fr5 жыл бұрын

    Un vrai plaisir, très instructif, super pédagogique 🇨🇵💃

  • @WardMcCarthy51
    @WardMcCarthy5129 күн бұрын

    Great stuff, thank you!

  • @WardMcCarthy51
    @WardMcCarthy5129 күн бұрын

    Great stuff... thank you!

  • @GlanderBrondurg
    @GlanderBrondurg6 жыл бұрын

    I heard a story from a history professor (I can't back this up with any source myself, but I'm sure this can be found from reliable sources) that it was common for monks in Ireland to take a small boat and fill it with food to simply voyage on the Atlantic Ocean in a manner like tossing bottles in the sea to trace sea currents. These monks would live at sea and put their lives into the hands of God to deliver them to some distant shore wherever the sea currents took them. Undoubtedly many of them simply died at sea, but several of them did come ashore at places all along the coast of Europe even going as far south as Morocco and Azores Islands and even landing in various Scandinavian lands too. France happens to have several monasteries near the coast that seem to have some sort of Irish link to their founding. The thought is that this kind of voyage also may have led to Irish monks traveling to Iceland and possibly even North America in the 7th or 8th Century. It would be interesting to see how many of these "leap of faith" voyages in the ocean might have been successful?

  • @meanders9221

    @meanders9221

    6 жыл бұрын

    Some similarities to Fijian/Polynesian settlement of far-flung Pacific islands, though the long-voyage Polynesians undoubtedly had different motivations (whatever they may have been??). I've read that many of them died at sea too.

  • @AudieHolland

    @AudieHolland

    5 жыл бұрын

    *Saint Brendan of Clonfert*

  • @goon143
    @goon1436 жыл бұрын

    You are on it Hilbert.Excellent video my dude you deserve a mince pie.

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    goon143 Thanks man, I will nab one tonight ;)

  • @averilwootton7857
    @averilwootton78573 жыл бұрын

    I went to the Faroes ( with a CU college travel grant) in 1965 and spent a month on Suderoy . There found an excavation near the southern tip , possibly at Lopra, the foundations of a small building about the size of a sheep fold. It was thought to be pre-Viking, possibly the remains of an Irish monk's cell.

  • @thehobbit1654
    @thehobbit16546 жыл бұрын

    Who needs school when you have these kind of videos

  • @chiron14pl
    @chiron14pl3 жыл бұрын

    Nice vid. I missed hearing a few bars of "Het Wilhelmus" LOL

  • @MM-qd4lh
    @MM-qd4lh5 жыл бұрын

    Hilbert, would love for you to turn your keen eye to the isle of Skye. I would particularly appreciate your take on the story of Aonghus Mhairtainn (Angus of the Storms) b. 1532 (I'm a 22nd generation descendent of his; my Nana told us the stories of Angus and our family when we were young. I assumed most families knew their history until I was in college:-) While ultimately part of the MacDonalds Lords of the Isles, the Martins of Skye married into both the MacDonalds and their predecessors and rivals, the MacLeods, but always retained their independce from both. Thank you for all your work in producing such informative and interesting videos.

  • @magnus00125
    @magnus001252 жыл бұрын

    I am Danish and my sister took a myheritage test that showed she was at least 30% celtic. Our mother's parents are Faroese so... maybe

  • @MiloManning05

    @MiloManning05

    Жыл бұрын

    Celt peoples went directly to Scandinavia aswell

  • @LordJordanXVII
    @LordJordanXVII Жыл бұрын

    Your Orkland and Shetley spoonerism got me.

  • @antonyslack1
    @antonyslack16 жыл бұрын

    I love all things Norse I'm a massive Heathen myself and I love place names. I fell in love with place names during my Medieval history degree.

  • @shanemalloy7493

    @shanemalloy7493

    5 жыл бұрын

    Antony Slack you're a pussy ok siss

  • @brendanbethlehem999
    @brendanbethlehem9996 жыл бұрын

    Pleast do St Brendan as a video!!

  • @adhamhmacconchobhair7565
    @adhamhmacconchobhair75653 жыл бұрын

    Im Irish and have scottish-Icelandic heritage, this is actually really interesting

  • @mattaffenit9898
    @mattaffenit98986 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a video on Grutte Pier Gerlofs Donia. Such a sadly small number of people seems to know about him and his epicness.

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    That one is definitely on my list so don't you worry ;)

  • @Gew219
    @Gew2196 жыл бұрын

    The interesting think I found from this video is that word for desert in Polish - "pustynia" - also commes from "poustinia"! I always thought it commes from the word for empty -"pusty" - and it made perfect sense to me, but it turn out that the etymology is far more interesting.

  • @Rovarin
    @Rovarin5 жыл бұрын

    The modern spelling for those Faroese locations would be Paparøkur, Vestmannahavn (abbreviated to Vestmanna) and I can't find any place that rings a bell for Papurshílsur, but I suspect it would be Papurshálsur or something to that effect. It is also suspected that the island of Mykines is derived from a Gaelic word, as well as the many different places that have some variation of 'ærgi' in them. Also Faroe or Faeroe is an Anglification of the Danish Færø, which is their name for Føroyar (from Fár and oyar meaning Sheep and Islands).

  • @joelm33
    @joelm336 жыл бұрын

    Please do an in-depth video about the viking discovery of america

  • @adamender9092
    @adamender90923 жыл бұрын

    Wait so if the Norse didn't invade Iceland and the Faroe islands, Irish would have developed into 2 more Gaelic languages like how it did in Scotland and the isle of man? And they would be Celtic nations?? Woah

  • @geremynakhone826
    @geremynakhone8266 жыл бұрын

    absolutely amazing content as usual, could you cover topics on southern Europe like moorish Spain and califate Sicily?

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you asked ;)

  • @mathiasneergaard6992

    @mathiasneergaard6992

    6 жыл бұрын

    I would love some videos on muslims/north africans and normans in southern italy

  • @garyodriscoll7988

    @garyodriscoll7988

    6 жыл бұрын

    Skellig Michael... Im from the nearest Port to Skellig Michael, Portmagee, ("Magee" was a smuggler, around the time of Niall of the nine hostages!) Take a look at some breath taking beauty, (The Skellig Rock wil be featuring in the new Star Wars movie) kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKarw6uTnrmXiqQ.html

  • @fuzzydunlop7928

    @fuzzydunlop7928

    6 жыл бұрын

    The imprint on the culture, at least the food, remains, though. So I doubt "any" remaining Siculo-Muslims were expelled. Perhaps converted. It's deceptively hard to drive out 100% of a cultural group. Much easier to change them, though.

  • @royperkins3851

    @royperkins3851

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah let's here about the last time Islam tried to take over Europe! And got their arses kicked back from whence they came!

  • @upandawaygames
    @upandawaygames6 жыл бұрын

    not sure that's the way to pronounce Poustinia.

  • @stefanveljkovic8891

    @stefanveljkovic8891

    4 жыл бұрын

    In Serbian language we say Pustinja

  • @nkor7569
    @nkor75696 жыл бұрын

    Love from Hungary, Hilbert!

  • @hieronyma_
    @hieronyma_6 жыл бұрын

    a good video

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @tireachan6178
    @tireachan61785 жыл бұрын

    Nice pronunciation of currach!

  • @roylandmaines299
    @roylandmaines2996 жыл бұрын

    My God your videos are enjoyable

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @williamcooke5627
    @williamcooke56276 жыл бұрын

    There are *hints* in Norse tradition that the 'papar' might have also reached Greenland ahead of the Norsemen. And a few Norse sources even speak of a country near Vinland with a colony of Irish monks, called 'Greater Ireland' or 'The Land of the White (i.e. white-robed) Men'.

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oh really? I've read the ones in Íslendingabók that mentioned those on Iceland but never about the others!

  • @seandegidon4672

    @seandegidon4672

    6 жыл бұрын

    The tale of St. Brendan's journey is more plausible than most Irish myth, but probably beyond proof. If there are only a few scattered etchings from far-northern skelligs that lasted generations, what can one expect from a scouting mission on the wind and sea-battered coast of Labrador?

  • @Rovarin

    @Rovarin

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@historywithhilbert146 The only people, at least in the sources I'm familiar with, that were in Greenland prior to the Greenlanders (the Norse dudes), were a population of the Dorset culture, but they are suspected to have either left or died off before Norse settlement, maybe not, but they were located in the north of Greenland, while the Norse settlers were in the south - and it is highly unlikely that they ever came into contact with one another. Then around the 1200s the Thule people (the ancestors of the Greenland Inuit people that live there now) arrived and they also stayed mostly in the north, but started to spread out as the years went by. The Greenlanders died out or left shortly after 1410 which is when the last documented interaction took place. The Greenland settlements were lost or forgotten. The Dano-Norwegian Archbishop Erik Valkendorf did contemplate sending an expedition to Greenland in the 1500s to reach the New World, but must have apparently changed his mind. It wasn't until the 1700s that any sort of search for the Greenlanders was to take place, by the Dano-Norwegian priest Hans Egede (from Norway and, if I recall correctly, funded by the trading companies in Bergen) traveled with an expedition to Greenland to bring the Lutheran Reformation to the Catholic Greenlanders - they didn't find any Norsemen there, but they did find some Inuit people... and then they colonized the island for the Norwegian part of the Dano-Norwegian realm (it didn't go that well financially, so it got handed over to the trading companies of Copenhagen, but the colony as well as the West Nordic lands of Iceland and the Faroe Islands were considered to belong to (in their own roundabout ways) the Norwegian crown.... that is to say until the Treaty of Kiel messed everything up).

  • @billysbilbolag2050
    @billysbilbolag20506 жыл бұрын

    Do you make these in PowerPoint? Because they bare striking similarity to my presentations (practically animated movies) that I make for school

  • @martijn9568
    @martijn95686 жыл бұрын

    Could you make videos about steppe people, Huns, Mongols etc....

  • @Joseph-mf3yi

    @Joseph-mf3yi

    6 жыл бұрын

    Or older steppe people like the the ones idk the name of that killed Cyrus the great

  • @PennyAfNorberg
    @PennyAfNorberg6 жыл бұрын

    But in the norse vid you tell about escaped trälar who was irish and killed in vestmannaeyland, is that the sign that there where irish Munchs there or is that the reason for the names?

  • @vickypedias
    @vickypedias6 жыл бұрын

    Pustinya- Пустиня- is how you say desert bulgarian as well!

  • @brimstned420

    @brimstned420

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm *a little* late but same in polish "pustynia"

  • @klartemedia7469
    @klartemedia74692 ай бұрын

    In Shetland we have several papar sites: papey litla (now known as papa little) papey stóra (now papa stour) Pape geo Papil geo Papa And 4 places named Papil

  • @kristinolavsson5853
    @kristinolavsson58536 жыл бұрын

    To the place-names in the Faroe Islands, I think you made some minor mistakes. The first name is Paparók, not Paparík. which means The cliff of the papar. Second is Vestmannahavn, not Vestmannahøvn. Which means The harbor for the village of Vestmanna. Where Vestmanna means westmen. The third is Papurshálsur, not Papurshílsur. Which means The pass ( as in a pass between two mountains) of the papar.

  • @Sean_rooney
    @Sean_rooney4 жыл бұрын

    I find it very hard to distinguish how you pronounce ireland from how you pronounce island

  • @rasmusn.e.m1064
    @rasmusn.e.m10646 жыл бұрын

    Faroese is not worse than Danish! xD Even though the phonology has shifted away from the orthography, it's still way closer in sound to the other North Germanic languages (especially western dialects of Norwegian) than Danish is. The existence of Gøtudansk is a good example of that.

  • @MartieD

    @MartieD

    6 жыл бұрын

    I am mainland Scandinavian and I can understand maybe 75% of written Faroese without ever having studied it (although it takes a while to figure out the meaning of some words) Icelandic is more difficult though.

  • @rasmusn.e.m1064

    @rasmusn.e.m1064

    6 жыл бұрын

    MartieD Me too, though I am Danish, so you can drop those percentages by around 25.

  • @MartieD

    @MartieD

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ranâ Onety You probably understand more than the average Swede though. My understanding of Faroese is mainly thanks to my knowledge of Norwegian, mixed with a bit of a talent of figuring out the meaning of words by vomparing them to other words.

  • @DeviousWizard

    @DeviousWizard

    6 жыл бұрын

    Farose person here. Usually have no trouble understanding the neghboring tongues, but Icelandic is by far the trickiest one. And Gøtudanskt really helped during childhood, in learning danish spelling and pronounciation. :D

  • @wastehazey6468

    @wastehazey6468

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DeviousWizard Danish resembles Norwegian and Swedish, and we learn Danish in school. Only logical that Icelandic is harder for us to understand.

  • @stephfahey1101
    @stephfahey11015 жыл бұрын

    Should have gone to the Sub Artic region of Canada for a desert. Back in 9th century A.D it still would have been far colder than today as it was still recovering from the last Great Ice Age. Maybe even the Northern Prairie Region of Canada lol. Even in present day -30 C is common especially with wind chill. Still a desert as its void of vegetation and gets little rain/snow.

  • @fuzzydunlop7928
    @fuzzydunlop79286 жыл бұрын

    "Hey Paddy, why ya come here to Iceland?" "To get away from all the fookin' British!"

  • @julianshepherd2038

    @julianshepherd2038

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Irish had occupied western Scotland not other way round

  • @shanekonarson
    @shanekonarson5 жыл бұрын

    A brother seamus !!! The dude “ what’s that an Irish monk “ lol the dude abides

  • @mrsmith9031
    @mrsmith90314 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant Video. This is tlike the Island of Brasil myths,

  • @raleighburner1589
    @raleighburner15894 жыл бұрын

    Irish monks in the sixth century educated Europe during the dark ages after the fall of the Roman empire the small island of Ireland is probably the most important country in the world at that time in fact without Ireland Europe might not have achieved anything also 5 thousand years ago in co Meath Ireland they have tomb called newgrange which pre data the pyramids

  • @alangervasis

    @alangervasis

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very true..Irish monks really helped in preserving old important manuscripts and spread the monastic literary tradition and literacy thoughout western europe by setting monastic schools. St. Columbanus is one such example.

  • @ktdoty9921
    @ktdoty99216 жыл бұрын

    I know this is unrelated to the video above, but do you speak Dutch fluently?

  • @Gew219

    @Gew219

    6 жыл бұрын

    KT Doty He *is* Dutch mate

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes I do :)

  • @jamessheehy2752
    @jamessheehy27526 жыл бұрын

    I must go to Iceland

  • @jonaw.2153
    @jonaw.21536 жыл бұрын

    The North or the Northern North?

  • @simondijkstra7769
    @simondijkstra77696 жыл бұрын

    Another video :) i have to be carefull not to get an Hilbert overload

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    Simon Dijkstra Hahaha only until Christmas then it'll be 1-2 videos a week

  • @simondijkstra7769

    @simondijkstra7769

    6 жыл бұрын

    Just keep them coming, we can always start Hilbert Anonimous if it gets to much

  • @jovanweismiller7114
    @jovanweismiller71146 жыл бұрын

    First of all, the concepts of White and Red Martyrdom are not exclusive to Celtic Christianity. They are common concepts throughout the Apostolic Churches. The Desert Fathers did not call themselves that. It is a term of later years for St Anthony the Great and other monks and hermits of the Theban Desert. And, regarding the word 'Poustinia, I highly doubt that the Irish monks of the period spoke Russian! Poustinia is a Russian Orthodox concept, and it means a small sparsely furnished cabin or room where one goes to pray and fast alone in the presence of God. It does, however come from the Russian word for desert, so you got that right. Sorry, Hilbert, I thoroughly enjoy your videos, but I coukldn't let these points pass.

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's fair enough that it wasn't just in Celtic Christianity as there are plenty of examples of Roman Christians going out and doing the same, although the Irish are particularly famous for their White Martyrdom as it took them to places like the Faroe Islands, Iceland, Africa, Southern France and possibly even America. "Pousitinia" is an older concept and probably came into Russian because of the Orthodox Church and in some way by the Greeks. With the case of calling this "pousitinia," this was only adopted later to describe the actions of earlier monks based on the actions of Russian ones of a later period. Thanks for watching and your continued support!

  • @alexanderrittersporn2975
    @alexanderrittersporn29756 жыл бұрын

    Pre-Christian Irish oral tradition also tells of mystical lands to the north… Maybe the Irish knowledge of Iceland predates the Christian voyages

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    I mean it's possible but then lots of cultures have the "mystical land that rises from the sea in those northern waters" kind-of-land :P

  • @shanekonarson

    @shanekonarson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Farley Mowett wrote a book called the Alban quest. Which talks about the the Gaels Sailing West when they were pagan and ending up in North America. Very similar to the Norse voyage by Leif ERikson ! Interest book worth a read

  • @thundercliff93
    @thundercliff936 жыл бұрын

    Geneticists also discovered a unique mitochondrial connection between Hebridean and Icelandic women suggesting they took part in the settlement Not sure if those would have been Pictish or Gaelic women

  • @thundercliff93

    @thundercliff93

    6 жыл бұрын

    History With Hilbert the book Landnám Íslands by Gunnar Karlsson estimates 40 % of the male settlers of Iceland were unmarried landless Norsemen who went to northern Britain to become Vikings. Some of them probably married local women or had mistresses. But there would also have been purely Norwegian families settling in Iceland as well

  • @massiveferguson9466

    @massiveferguson9466

    5 жыл бұрын

    History With Hilbert Norse males in Scotland /Ireland would have intermarried with local women(as well as having local slaves).It's unlikely that Norse males would ever have had enough Scandinavian women to go round especially in thecesrly days of their overseas settlementd.

  • @massiveferguson9466

    @massiveferguson9466

    5 жыл бұрын

    History With Hilbert Norse males in Scotland /Ireland would have intermarried with local women(as well as having local slaves).It's unlikely that Norse males would ever have had enough Scandinavian women to go round especially in the early days of their overseas settlements.

  • @vestty5802

    @vestty5802

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Síofra Loughlin what’s your obsession with sex slaves? Many were just wives of Norse men. Slavery was common practice in both norse and Gaelic culture in those days

  • @vestty5802

    @vestty5802

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Síofra Loughlin true many were slaves. But you realize in places like Dublin Normal marriages happened between Norse settlers and Irish women, them or their offspring them move to Iceland.

  • @cuchulainn7294
    @cuchulainn72946 жыл бұрын

    UNITE IRELAND

  • @henrydavid8994
    @henrydavid89944 жыл бұрын

    my favorite islands, orkland and shetney 😂

  • @hrolfureyj
    @hrolfureyj6 жыл бұрын

    there were at least 3 attempts to inhabit Iceland before Ingólfur Arnarsson settled in ca 874

  • @zeusnitch
    @zeusnitch6 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if they eat mango Shetney in Orkland....never heard mention of it from Tolkien

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    Rub it in why don't you! xD

  • @AxelThorKolbeinsson
    @AxelThorKolbeinsson6 жыл бұрын

    Vestmannaeyjar was named after slaves who fled there following a murder and uprising... They were all killed there.

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    Axel Þór Kolbeinsson That's another explanation for it :)

  • @massiveferguson9466

    @massiveferguson9466

    5 жыл бұрын

    Vestmenn in Old Norse meant "West men" or Irish because they lay to the west of where the Old Norse were. Gaelic slaves killed their owner and fled to the islands named after them ,where they were slaughtered.

  • @olafur2463

    @olafur2463

    3 жыл бұрын

    @G D Pren www.irishcentral.com/roots/genealogy/dna-vikings-irish-slaves-iceland It's the opposite

  • @rikardsandberg9566
    @rikardsandberg95666 жыл бұрын

    Isn't the dutch word for desert from proto-germanic *wōstinjō, and thus a cognate to the german "Wüste"?

  • @sean668

    @sean668

    6 жыл бұрын

    Is it related to the English root word "Waste" as in "Wasteland", as well?

  • @ArturdeSousaRocha

    @ArturdeSousaRocha

    6 жыл бұрын

    That "poustinia" thing is strangely similar to Polish "pustynia" (desert) which comes from "pusty" (empty) and thus could be read as "emptiness" or "void". False cognates or what?

  • @iKrivetko

    @iKrivetko

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, "waste" is the English variant. I wonder if that root is somehow related to the slavic *poust which is also used to describe empty/barren things (poustinia literally means desert in Russian and other slavic languages). I wasn't yet able to find any data that would prove or disprove that hypothesis, but the resemblance is definitely uncanny.

  • @sean668

    @sean668

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's definitely something to consider. At first I was thinking "well 'p' and 'w' are very different from eachother", but in Latin the word is "Vastus". "V/F" and "P/B" trade off a lot between languages (like Latin "pes" and German "fuss"). You might very well be onto something here.

  • @iKrivetko

    @iKrivetko

    6 жыл бұрын

    Germanic consonant shifts are very regular and are described by Grimm's Law, so theoretically they'd need to be poust/foust or goust/woust to be related, but I'm no professional linguist, so there might be something that I don't know of. I haven't found any proper etymology of the *poust root yet, so who knows.

  • @androane
    @androane6 жыл бұрын

    Hiw did the monks know that there's a terrestrial land to the north? how could they know they are not going on a suicidal mission by risking to die on the seas?

  • @columbannon9134
    @columbannon91346 жыл бұрын

    The Irish Monks had idea`s that there was land across the Ocean, and set off different times and soon later had found a route to it by going to the Western Isles in Scotland then to the Faeroe Islands which the Irish had called Sheep Island, then sailed to Iceland. Some monks had settled their while it was St Brendan and some monks sailed on and landed in North America just before 600 A.D. It was later when the Vikings had landed in Iceland that they found out about the New land that lay in the West.

  • @magnusorn7313

    @magnusorn7313

    4 жыл бұрын

    except st brendans voyage left no archeological footprints

  • @YuliaHadassahK
    @YuliaHadassahK6 жыл бұрын

    Shetney, where's that again? 😁

  • @YtheMain
    @YtheMain6 жыл бұрын

    Nice informative video once again, Hilbert. Not too fond of the music though, to be honest. It's too present which made it distracting to me. Otherwise, keep up the good work! Groeten uit Nederland.

  • @holliebrooke7327
    @holliebrooke73276 жыл бұрын

    who else thought it said ireland in the thumbnail

  • @vikingsailorboy
    @vikingsailorboy6 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. Poušť is how you say desert in Czech

  • @Skallagrimur1
    @Skallagrimur16 жыл бұрын

    Vestmannaeyjar is named after irish slaves which were killed there by the first settler Ingólfur Arnarsson and there are places on vestmannaeyjar which are named after said slaves such as duftþekja

  • @massiveferguson9466

    @massiveferguson9466

    5 жыл бұрын

    Never Unprepared The Battle of Clontarf was a struggle between Brian Boru 's forces(Irish and as he controlled Limerick and Waterford,probably Norse as well) against the King of Leinster and his Irish,the Hiberno-Norse of Dublin and outside vikings from Orkney and the isle of Man. It was Irish against Irish and Norse.A struggle between two competing dynasties for control of the island and the high kingship(traditionally the nominal high king was drawn from the southern O'Neill king of Leinster). Boru was like an upstart who had gained the high kingship and after his death at Clontarf his family lost control of it. Vikings took many slaves in Ireland through raiding.I presume Irish had slaves of their own at this time either Irish or foreign(they certainly had centuries before).

  • @newslayer
    @newslayer6 жыл бұрын

    if Irish monks were on Iceland who carried them

  • @Mateo-oq7ui

    @Mateo-oq7ui

    6 жыл бұрын

    Boats?

  • @enqrbit

    @enqrbit

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mateo G. de A. Nope. Everyone knows that the first boat was created back in 1998

  • @eimhingalvin8864

    @eimhingalvin8864

    6 жыл бұрын

    newslayer3351 you do realise the irish where the original raider bane of Northern and Western Europe long before the nose had ever began viking expodition the irish where raiding the coast of Britain France and even as fás South as spain andeast as modern day north Germany 😂 Niall of the nine hostages Irish High King had hostages from 9 kingdoms 4 Irish kingdoms, Scotland, frankia England(roman Britain as it fell apart) , Spain and the saxon kingdoms in Northern Germany 😊

  • @garyodriscoll7988

    @garyodriscoll7988

    6 жыл бұрын

    I always thought the ginger gene game to Ireland via the Vikings? Are you saying it went from Ireland to Norway...... then back again to Ireland?

  • @thenextshenanigantownandth4393

    @thenextshenanigantownandth4393

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thats right people have a wrong view of the vikings especially in ireland they were getting slaughtered left and right by the irish .

  • @charlesstuart7290
    @charlesstuart72904 жыл бұрын

    There was a fictional movie with two monks on the Iceland shore discussing philosophy.

  • @andreiferariu
    @andreiferariu6 жыл бұрын

    The word for nothingness ( desert, kinda ) in romanian is Pustiu. We've pretty much kept the word.

  • @gog_magpie
    @gog_magpie6 жыл бұрын

    I thought i heard Popeye Meiri at 5:31 😅

  • @iKrivetko
    @iKrivetko6 жыл бұрын

    Poustinia is actually a slavic word that means desert, e.g. "пустыня" in Russian. Some words end up in the weirdest places.

  • @toxicgump
    @toxicgump6 жыл бұрын

    Do a video on the Irish famine!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @user-se8mi2io1v
    @user-se8mi2io1v6 жыл бұрын

    You have made a mistake, Hilbert. Poustinia is actually a Slavic term which was never used in Gaelic Christianity. It has clear Slavic etymology(from the root "pust", which means "empty", like in modern Polish pustynia - desert, pustka - the feeling of emptiness; Russian пустой - empty; and so on and so on). That term was used in Slavic Orthodox culture(in Russia, Bulgaria, etc.). Greeks and the Western Church used the term derived from the Greek word ἐρημία for those type of ascetic practices. For example, in modern Polish(cause Poland is obviously a Catholic nation) the monks who seek solitude are called "eremici"("eremita" in singular).

  • @serjorahmormont6124
    @serjorahmormont61246 жыл бұрын

    Is there any Viking archeology/lore about the Jan Mayen island? If I remember correctly there was a Irish monk (?) who thought to have discovered hell because of the fire of the volcano on the island. But if the Vikings regularly sailed to Iceland and possibly have seen Svalbard at some point as well (not verified I think), it is not too unlikely to should also have seen Jan Mayen on their voyages.

  • @historywithhilbert146

    @historywithhilbert146

    6 жыл бұрын

    serjorah mormont I've heard something similar about it yes :)

  • @joeytje50
    @joeytje503 жыл бұрын

    0:47 I don't believe you. Woestijn more likely comes from the word "Woestenij", going by internet sources, which makes a lot more sense. Also, the internet says Poustinia comes from Russian пустыня (pronounced "poustinia" as well), and even though I couldn't find any internet sources about the link between Proto-germanic "wōstenja" and this proto slavic "pustyni", I do think there's probably some link since it's basically a single consonant-shift and a single vowel-shift away from eachother.

  • @kristadisgumundsdottir3658
    @kristadisgumundsdottir36586 жыл бұрын

    Paparökur is actually Papar-ökur not Papa-rökur and ökur means field where you can plant crops.

  • @robertdavie1866
    @robertdavie18665 жыл бұрын

    So the Templar's sailing west from Scotland isn't really far fetcher

  • @alangervasis

    @alangervasis

    2 жыл бұрын

    irish monks are not templars.

  • @stefanpunct3003
    @stefanpunct3003 Жыл бұрын

    There should be mentioned that first the Celtic Christian church had other rules as for example the "main" church in rome , for exmaple monks and nuns could marry and could have children ( really !) , second there had been a long tradition of seafaring of the Irish ( at least very normal for an island people ) , if you read history books about naval history you could learn that thgere had been build vessels in the 7th century of a length of 30 meters ( wrecks had been found at the bottom of the sea around the British isles ).

  • @willempasterkamp862
    @willempasterkamp8622 ай бұрын

    thus Pop-eye the sailor just meaning old/best seafahrer/father ; Bestevaer in dutch ? what was the nickname of dutch admiral Michiel de Ruyter. And popeye originating from Drusus germanicus (ophiuchus) the traveller/seafahrer aka St. Paul. it is a weird thing that the romans build a castellum named Vindolanum at the border, the hadrian wall and centuries later we find names like Vinland (wine-land) and Frisland (cool-land) given to imaginary ? islands between britain and Iceland (Island) on a rare medieval map. Seems someone invented some names and got ideas from the dark ages. Finland also has its name from the wine-berries growing there in abundance. The wilderness, woestijn Poustinia is celestial the 40 days period when the Sun enters darkness ; the 40 days or 4 weeks of Advent (adventure) before 25 december.

  • @redgrassgirl
    @redgrassgirl6 жыл бұрын

    HI ILY

  • @ritiksinha5651
    @ritiksinha56516 жыл бұрын

    Orkney and Shetney

  • @thenextshenanigantownandth4393
    @thenextshenanigantownandth43936 жыл бұрын

    Modern sensitives aside Irish and Gaelic is the same thing, so why not just put Irish in the tittle ? the Irish were pretty good sea navigators one of the evolutions l guess of being an island, and the land of Ireland being heavily forested ( nation) nation in the classical way like how Bede describes it, meant Irish people tended to stick to the coasts and travel by sea, even Irish clans like Murphy which is the most common surname in all of the counties of Ireland means sea warrior, people tended to keep to the coast hence the popularity of the name, Irish raids ect. You should do a video on st columba and the Irish missions .

  • @thundercliff93
    @thundercliff936 жыл бұрын

    There are also some scholars who ignore the accounts of Landnáma and Íslendingabók regarding the west Norwegian origin of the settlers and instead believe they mostly came from the more northern parts of Norway like Halogaland based on similarity of some Landnám period houses to northern Norwegian houses. They also think some of them would have had some ancestry from the Saami or Lapplander people. Some skull remains from medieval Iceland show similar dental characteristics to people living in Arctic environments like the Inuit and Saami Some Norwegian anthropologist wrote an interesting essay called Finnar á Íslandi but it's in Norwegian unfortunately for Anglosaxon speakers

  • @jovanweismiller7114
    @jovanweismiller71146 жыл бұрын

    The Desert Fathers did not call themselves that. The name was given to them later by their admirers.

  • @omgpotatos1
    @omgpotatos16 жыл бұрын

    As an Irish man I actually like the westman name

  • @user-ky6vw5up9m

    @user-ky6vw5up9m

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Connacht folks think of themselves as the Westmen 😀☘️

  • @MiloManning05

    @MiloManning05

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-ky6vw5up9m they haven’t got Nordic dna