INTERNATIONAL LB COLD START THROTTLE GOVERNED ENGINE

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This is DIRTBIKE5100 Trying to start his International Model LB engine with the help of his Father and Racer4560. It was difficult to start because the fuel line was loose and sucking air, preventing it from getting fuel suction. The temperature was over 100 degrees when they were trying to start the engine, I was glad I was handling the camera.
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  • @RamblinAround
    @RamblinAround14 жыл бұрын

    Man, that took some serious effort to get going. I sure was glad to see it finally fire up for ya. It ran real nice once they got it going.

  • @ihus9950
    @ihus99505 жыл бұрын

    Just goes to show sometimes something so simple can kick your butt. Glad they got it going 👍

  • @pearsonba350
    @pearsonba35014 жыл бұрын

    Makes you respect the classics, but appreciate the conveniences of the new engines.

  • @mathewmerkl576
    @mathewmerkl5768 жыл бұрын

    last summer I restored a model LB 3-5 Hp that was gave to me from my uncle we ran it off a separate fuel tank for a bit to see if it ran but the threads into the mixing pot were all stripped out so the same thing happened but the gravity feed helped get it started all it needed was a fuel line new push rods and rocker arms and gaskets and my uncle said the oiler wasint working but after taking everything apart we found out the oiler only works after the engine is shut off it we are still confused about it now we were able to find parts easy in the usa the engine starts up in 2-3 spins now and now im fixing up a roller mill that came with it for a little fun at our local fair great vid love seeing old machines coming back to life

  • @mattthescrapwhisperer
    @mattthescrapwhisperer Жыл бұрын

    I just stumbled across this gem from years ago. Man Little Dirt Bike was young! I have two LBs running on propane. Great little engines.

  • @805ROADKING

    @805ROADKING

    Жыл бұрын

    Everybody in the hobby starts out with an LA or LB!!☻

  • @mattthescrapwhisperer

    @mattthescrapwhisperer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@805ROADKING I have 3 😂👍

  • @bobg8378

    @bobg8378

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey Matt, what did you have to do to convert yours to propane?

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын

    yeah He learned a good lesson that day, make sure the fuel line is tight!! once he fixed that it started on first spin!!☺

  • @farmerjbird

    @farmerjbird

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good to know, yes, check all connections!

  • @scdevon
    @scdevon7 жыл бұрын

    Remember when you were a kid and you always saw old timers with missing fingers and stuff? LOL.

  • @babudas4225

    @babudas4225

    7 жыл бұрын

    babudas

  • @babudas4225

    @babudas4225

    7 жыл бұрын

    babu Das

  • @michaelhenwood4046

    @michaelhenwood4046

    6 жыл бұрын

    Usually sawyers.

  • @jimmybritt9537
    @jimmybritt95374 жыл бұрын

    Great little engine , just needs a little TLC and she'll be just fine . I got to say though my ears are still ringing from that starting handle snapping back on that flywheel 😆😅🤣👍👍🇺🇸

  • @tonywright8294
    @tonywright82945 жыл бұрын

    The old down hill trick again superb

  • @ingridgott
    @ingridgott14 жыл бұрын

    great video my friend

  • @steamwally
    @steamwally14 жыл бұрын

    When it does go it's a very sweet runner! One good trick for cold starting is to "lead the plug" electrode with a graphite pencil, usualy goes first time but you shouldn't need to do that. I know it was a loose fuel line but hey, it works.

  • @bloodreighn
    @bloodreighn8 жыл бұрын

    wow... a lot has changed in 5 years

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @RamblinAround Between the 4 of us we should have figured out the problem immediately. I mentioned early in the vid that I didn't think it was getting fuel. We found out later when we where putting it away that the fuel line was loose. Little Dirtbikes Dad noticed it when he removed the gas cup.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @sbartasek I tried hooking up a lawn tractor starter/generator up to one of my hit and miss engines but it wasn't powerfull enough. A buddy of mine does have one hooked up to one of his smaller hit and miss engines and it works fine.

  • @robertpeterson4922
    @robertpeterson492210 жыл бұрын

    Edit my last comment. Did not realize you found a loose fuel line. But LB's a really easy to flood. Glad she runs. Mine is almost restored. I've had it for 35 years or so, since I was a kid, and just got it running again. Got any spare mag points? IHC mag.

  • @Static1701
    @Static170110 жыл бұрын

    I have a friend that has one, it starts right away. Fill it with warm water to pre-heat the cylinder (It helps) we run on gas until the water starts to steam then switch to kero. Fix what it wrong with and it will run well every time. Lost skin on my knuckle a few times starting it up...

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @mbyr31 Thanks Matt!! Yeah it is a PITA, but ain't that why we all do it. Once ya figure out the problem and get them running it makes it all worth it, especially the old ones.

  • @CristianArnaldi
    @CristianArnaldi14 жыл бұрын

    exelente motor amigo, funciona muy bien, costo un poco hacerlo funcionar pero valio la pena, hermoso lo felicito.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING12 жыл бұрын

    They were used mostly by farmers who would hook them up to water pumps, compressors, cement mixers, saws and anything you could hook up to them with a belt!!☺

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @dbzgt545 Likewise Dude!! Thanks for checking us out and commenting.

  • @lejpeter
    @lejpeter10 жыл бұрын

    but to the buy that's filming.... good job for keeping these kids interested. no disrespect intended. just to the IHC company. lol. Go deere.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @steamwally They said that engine usually starts on the 1st or 2nd crank. I'm gonna try that graphite trick on my LA, I always have a hard time starting that.

  • @sbartasek
    @sbartasek14 жыл бұрын

    I don't think I could resist the temptation of using either a drill with a rubber tire mounted or a belt driven starter motor on that huge flywheel!

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING13 жыл бұрын

    @nave4pres2 Finally!! the fuel line was loose and was sucking air instead of fuel!! thanks for checkin' it out!!☺

  • @ils360
    @ils36014 жыл бұрын

    sounds strong!!

  • @motoforlyfe
    @motoforlyfe14 жыл бұрын

    @farmerphil indeed ive had it happen before but nothing happened. is this the phil off of fostertown?

  • @daveurmie2485
    @daveurmie24856 жыл бұрын

    Awesome engine got one myself just like it

  • @coffeefish
    @coffeefish14 жыл бұрын

    Sounds great.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @vidman008 Thanks Ron!! Anytime you get 4 stubborn Gearheads together something is gonna get started, even if it is 100 degrees out.☺

  • @jhonnyhalls1
    @jhonnyhalls18 жыл бұрын

    tive que assistir ate o final, pra saber se voces conseguiriam ligar o motor depois de tanto tentar,mas valew o esforço de voces.no meu pais e muito dificil conseguir um motor diesel desses,em seu pais parece ser mais facil. tambem gosto de fazer algumas gambiarras motorizadas,veja meus videos e da um joinha,valew abraço

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that thing on top is a water hopper!!☺

  • @SH1974
    @SH197411 жыл бұрын

    So You're lucky! Here in central of europe, the situation is different... I was on search for an antique Deutz or Lister or Petter engine, but the search was hard and I only found restored (and extremely expensive) ones or totally scrap (and still expensive) even replacment parts are rare and expensive, so I choosed a chinese product - wich is not as well finished, but it runs well.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mate!!☺

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @IHcubcadet Thanks, She's a real runner now!!

  • @UnitCrane514
    @UnitCrane51411 жыл бұрын

    I really like the old LB's. Did they have the removable cylinder liners???

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @SmallEngineMechanic I'm gonna try and make it Saturday.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING12 жыл бұрын

    @MrJSXU The gas line was loose causing it not to get suction, they fixed it now it starts on first spin!!☺

  • @jasongiddensviper478
    @jasongiddensviper47814 жыл бұрын

    Seems to be working well after you get her running.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @jasongiddensviper478 Yeah, they fixed the problem and now it's as good as new.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @TheCarnaldi Gracias Amigo!!☺

  • @schlusselmensch
    @schlusselmensch11 жыл бұрын

    An LB with a good mag and a reliable fuel supply will start in 3 - 6 cranks after you get the hang of it. Fuel needle out 3/4 to one turn, choke valve pressed down and give it a good spin.

  • @petejulie1000
    @petejulie10009 жыл бұрын

    I have a few of these MD engines in my collection. This is a good catch. BUT!! One should never leave the thumb wrapped around the crank handle when starting. If the engine should be improperly timed it can break the thumb off yer hand under reversing rotation on start.

  • @firenguyen517

    @firenguyen517

    6 жыл бұрын

    petejulie1000

  • @MrTerrymiff

    @MrTerrymiff

    5 жыл бұрын

    Didn't you know that blue rag prevents thumb breakages?

  • @technocncindia

    @technocncindia

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын

    Don't know!! I had one but never had one opened up!!☺

  • @triplex4286
    @triplex428612 жыл бұрын

    oh that's really cool it might make one hell of a go kart ;)

  • @gregoffenback6910
    @gregoffenback69108 жыл бұрын

    Pouring gas through the exhaust valve is a new one to me. Not saying it is a bad idea, just never thought of that before.

  • @mechanicworld6453

    @mechanicworld6453

    6 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @cletusspuckler2243

    @cletusspuckler2243

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thats would be better with spraying gas in the air intake port .I often use to spray propane in my two strokes stationnary engines when they are hard to coldstart : the engine starts on the first pull !

  • @nalvarez3505

    @nalvarez3505

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greg Offenback same here I never saw the before, learning al the time.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @ingridgott Thank You Ingrid!! ☺

  • @walterk1221
    @walterk12215 жыл бұрын

    Are looks deceiving or is that an *overhead valve* engine?

  • @triplex4286
    @triplex428612 жыл бұрын

    what was that engine used for because I've never seen anything like it

  • @gazza116
    @gazza1165 жыл бұрын

    keep on trying liked that .

  • @user-eg5qc5wg9t
    @user-eg5qc5wg9t5 жыл бұрын

    Где вы его нашли?

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @pimpinpenz fuel line was loose and it was suckin' wind!!

  • @pimpinpenz
    @pimpinpenz14 жыл бұрын

    man that thing was so hard starting! i wish they had mor of these engines in canada i can never seem to find any. what was rong with it?

  • @72fullerfire67
    @72fullerfire679 жыл бұрын

    Wow dirt bike is so young. Lol

  • @user-ic5ye9yu1o

    @user-ic5ye9yu1o

    6 жыл бұрын

    72 FullerFire

  • @rajatchauhan5501

    @rajatchauhan5501

    6 жыл бұрын

    where are these engine used

  • @balaumarin6102

    @balaumarin6102

    5 жыл бұрын

    ...

  • @gamo98
    @gamo9811 жыл бұрын

    is the motor a water cooled

  • @luisantoniomarrega1120
    @luisantoniomarrega11206 жыл бұрын

    Esse estava difícil de pegar. Rio RJ Brasil

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын

    It wasn't flooded, it wasn't getting any fuel. The fuel line was loose, as soon as they tightened the line it started right up

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Buddy!!☺

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @JDMowerGuy1998 Sure did Bobby!!! ☺

  • @steamwally
    @steamwally14 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure these old engines know who's cranking them! I let a friend start my Ruston the other day, first swing. I went to start it at a rally, it took pencil lead to make it start. It seems that either the condensor or the coil in the magneto is breaking down and will have to be replaced, a condensor is affordable at £6 but a coil is not at £100! What a bugger magneto's are.....

  • @5885ronny
    @5885ronny5 жыл бұрын

    Gut 😊 Motor top

  • @pharaohoffarts
    @pharaohoffarts10 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, definitely sound like low compression. Needs a set of rings if you could find them that size.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @handclamp Yeah, sometimes they can be real workout!!

  • @Rustbox306
    @Rustbox30611 жыл бұрын

    You should have ran it with a spray of starter fluid to see if the air/fuel mixture was indeed the problem.

  • @dadsvespa
    @dadsvespa7 жыл бұрын

    I thought the hole in the top was to be filled with water for cooling?

  • @lornaz1975

    @lornaz1975

    7 жыл бұрын

    You are correct! I hope they didn't burn it up.

  • @dadsvespa

    @dadsvespa

    7 жыл бұрын

    lornaz1975 Thanks lornaz I thought so.

  • @scdevon

    @scdevon

    7 жыл бұрын

    It is, but the engine will be fine without water for a while. There is lots of cast iron mass there that needs to heat up before the engine would be damaged. These engines don't run that hot anyway. They are a low stress design. The compression ratio on these is something like 5:1 or maybe even less.

  • @user-np8xc8ti6h
    @user-np8xc8ti6h6 жыл бұрын

    Where there's a will, there's a way!

  • @pimpinpenz
    @pimpinpenz14 жыл бұрын

    @805ROADKING lol that sucks wasted alot of engergy trying to start it

  • @nalvarez3505
    @nalvarez35056 жыл бұрын

    Yeah..... you got it

  • @mariohandyman629
    @mariohandyman6298 жыл бұрын

    DAT S A SPECIAL ENGINE,LOOK STRANGE BUT SOUND PRETY GOOD,THANK U 2 SHARE SERVANT OF GOD ,Y CHILDREN GO 2 SCHOOL INTERNET IS THE BEST SCHOOL +GOOD 4 PARENT 2,I NEVER LEARN AT SCHOOL LIKE WAT I LEARN NOW N I AM 58,SO IF I CAN LEARN SO MUCH CHILDREN CAN 2, CHILDREN R LEARNING MACHINE ,NOT ONLY THE BOYS GIRLS 2,MEN N WOMEN NEED 2 B EQUAL ,IST NOT COLOR THE PROBLEM ITS BETWEEN MEN N WOMEN. WE NEED 2 START WITH CHILDREN,IF MEN DONT RESPECT WOMEN HOW HE CAN RESPECT NATURE ,WOMEN IS NATURE.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын

    It wasn't run long enough to get hot!!☺

  • @SmallEngineMechanic
    @SmallEngineMechanic14 жыл бұрын

    Ah, nothing but fun. At about 7 min Bill is getting a little sick of the thing. You going to Jacktown this weekend?

  • @paulcat9
    @paulcat911 жыл бұрын

    If I heard that older fella say "hmmmmf! " one more bloody time..... LOL just kidding. glad you got er going. : )

  • @tartredarrow
    @tartredarrow10 жыл бұрын

    Low compression probably.

  • @SlickD217
    @SlickD2176 жыл бұрын

    Need this In a motorcycle!!!

  • @SH1974
    @SH197411 жыл бұрын

    Okay, if You think so... I would not risk it. Not with my newer Lianfa TL-170 where it's not a problem to get repair parts) and for sure not with an antique collectors engine like this one.

  • @robertpeterson4922
    @robertpeterson492210 жыл бұрын

    All that was wrong was that they flooded it. I have an LB in my shop right now. Mine will start with 1 backpull choke on, 1/2 turn on needle valve, and 1 good start pull. Away she goes every time. Except if I flood it. Then I crank like crazy like these guys. Pulling the plug on these is a small pain.

  • @DRNEGOLICIS

    @DRNEGOLICIS

    5 жыл бұрын

    is there a check valve in these for the fuel pick up? looks like it would make sense. mine looses prime then dies. i have it belted to a 1HP electric motor to find this out.

  • @daviddrumd
    @daviddrumd9 жыл бұрын

    deutz numero uno

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @rmTimW lol!! Check about 8:10 into the video. ☺

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @ils360 Once they fixed the problem, it ran like a Bear!!

  • @tiki_trash
    @tiki_trash6 жыл бұрын

    My grandparents had one of these connected to an electric generator

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @farmerphil I'll make sure the kid sees this comment, They don't realize what a kick back can do until after it happens

  • @user-oe5ug8wd3f
    @user-oe5ug8wd3f5 жыл бұрын

    Good...

  • @alimakhfud8490
    @alimakhfud84906 жыл бұрын

    gooooos aku sampek melu pegel. seng ratepak apane

  • @12799MaDeuce
    @12799MaDeuce10 жыл бұрын

    For others' reference, jump to 8:05

  • @adenspeers3389
    @adenspeers33894 жыл бұрын

    not much compression but nice compact motor

  • @PowewrdFullTutorial
    @PowewrdFullTutorial10 жыл бұрын

    injection or distribution system is not working

  • @khadijagwen
    @khadijagwen6 жыл бұрын

    Better get some water in it.

  • @zetec73
    @zetec739 жыл бұрын

    nice engine tempremental little buggers I had one and it was a sod to start everytime blew itself to pieces at a rally one day when goveners stuck open didn't last long BOOM bits flew everywere bye bye LB

  • @Newkomsan
    @Newkomsan5 жыл бұрын

    I like video old mashine

  • @tuncfreeman
    @tuncfreeman13 жыл бұрын

    8:15 WIN!

  • @user-cv2nd7mc3m
    @user-cv2nd7mc3m5 жыл бұрын

    Nou Evropa... AFRICA !!! )))

  • @moriscahyadi9179
    @moriscahyadi91796 жыл бұрын

    Drill on engine starting

  • @unom5632
    @unom56326 жыл бұрын

    Cold start?

  • @tranvu2626

    @tranvu2626

    6 жыл бұрын

    restart after many year = cold start , start with no water , no oil

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING14 жыл бұрын

    @coffeefish Thanks Fish!!

  • @imtiaguddin6047
    @imtiaguddin60476 жыл бұрын

    Very old the machine

  • @Sahajpura
    @Sahajpura6 жыл бұрын

    Wah

  • @engineprojects
    @engineprojects12 жыл бұрын

    what no water in the cooling bowl u want to brake it ?

  • @anbresalles
    @anbresalles10 жыл бұрын

    está com ponto adiantado.

  • @cuongninh7325
    @cuongninh73255 жыл бұрын

    Việt Nam 🇻🇳 6/1/2019

  • @Jim-ie6uf
    @Jim-ie6uf6 жыл бұрын

    Twitchy thing ain’t it?

  • @diegob8418
    @diegob84185 жыл бұрын

    Ciao

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