I am really curious what the Intel 13 will be like? Any idea if you can use double-sided NVME in either of these?

I have a Yoga slim 7 Pro with a 6800HS and integrated GPU at work and I must say, Lenovo has come a long way in product quality. It's simply an excellent daily driver. Good battery life, very light, nice screen, and very nice keyboard and Lenovo has stopped with all the junkware that they used to preinstall. I also noticed that the AMD ryzen processors also seem to have aged better than the same generation Intel CPUs.

@HDRPC

Жыл бұрын

But according to my findings Intel laptops aged more than anything else on market.

@SaphireTech

Жыл бұрын

Recently picked up a Ideapad 5 (about half the price of yours) and have to agree, pretty clean install (except for McAfee) and solid metal build. Also, the keyboard is really nice probably the best I've had on a laptop.

@patrick.771

Жыл бұрын

How is your AMD unit behaving when watching 1080p KZread? Do the fans turn on every 3-4 minutes? (Especially plugged in?)

@RogueTravel

Жыл бұрын

Wish they were as good as MacBooks though

@HDRPC

Жыл бұрын

@@RogueTravel yes soon in 2024 end or 2025 laptops with 18A node, RibbonFET transistors and power via. They will be better in performance per watt than arm chips

Thank you I have been waiting for this test.

Unable seeing into Lenovos cards I think they choose their components and software adjustments to make them perform similar: While the Intel CPU is of a newer generation, its an i7 „only“ and not the max spec version i9-12900H. The power draw would be insane, also the performance gap. So they dont want to give their suppliers and customers not too much of a gap on the Notebook Brand experience.

Wish you'd done the benchmarks in Intelligent Mode (and Extreme Mode maybe only as a bonus). That's the target use case for these devices. Running them in extreme performance mode has too many drawbacks and isn't enabled out of the box anyway.

Clear recommendations at the end are appreciated. Great video

What about comparing budget laptops? Does the CPU really make much difference in models that are under $500? I'm not looking for a video editing or gaming rig, just something for daily tasks.

@uruacufutsal1

Жыл бұрын

Anything will work for daily basis work, even chrome books lol. Just any average Ryzen or Intel Core, at least 8gb of ram (get 16 if you multitask) with a decent SSD is enough, dont need to worry much about it. Just dont get a Pentium or stuff like that lol

Hi!! I’m looking for a computer for my mom… she does office work and internet navigation mostly. No big programs and very light games (like sudoku or like older games)… would you think the dell inspiron 16 AMD Ryzen™ 7 7730U will be enough?

Very interesting results. Usually AMD has an edge on power efficiency, but it is neat to see Intel catching up. Wonder why some other AMD laptops tend to get much better results - perhaps better optimization for the processor in those models?

@pham3383

Жыл бұрын

seems like QC problem,mine asus g14 have so bad battery ,then i got another g14( get a new one is their warranty policy here) the battery life is much better,and somehow the usb speed jumped from 20 to 40gbps my friend also has the same issue with his dell alienware

@frenze1234

Жыл бұрын

I think it has something to do with the AMD + nVidia combo, an all AMD combo usually yields better battery and driver optimization.

@joelconolly5574

Жыл бұрын

It's usually like that.

@defnotatroll

Жыл бұрын

Probably because this was a ryzen 9 up against a core i7? Not an apples to apples comparison

@vmafarah9473

Жыл бұрын

AMD laptops are efficient even if it's an AMD Nvidia combo but it's the lenovos software side is making Intel better not trying on amd side. There are laptops other manufacturers who can give you better battery life on AMD model . 15 hours or more . Also Intel Quicksync lacks quality when you zoom in while Nvidia Nvenc is better.

Hey!, I am planning on buying ryzen 3 7320u on the lenovo v15 g4 but i am worried about it's temperature and longevity. What should i do??

I purchased this laptop (Yoga Slim 7 Pro X) with a AMD Ryzen 7 6800HS, 32gb RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Max-Q (4Gb, GDDR6) and Touchscreen. Battery life isn’t great, but with the 100W Power Cord my 4-cell 70Wh battery gets charged very fast. Only real downside: no HDMI-port and no fingerprint sensor. Overall: I’m extremely happy, the laptop is very quiet and is relatively light. The screen is simply lovely and with the 32Gb RAM helps a lot when multi tasking. I chose the AMD over the Intel due to price. Plus, I never had an AMD-processor laptop before and I was just curious. Note: I actually considered the 2022 13” MacBook pro but I will probably get the 16” pro later this year and I chose the Lenovo as my ‘carry-on’ laptop.

@patrick.771

Жыл бұрын

Can you tell how your slim 7 ProX behaves when you watch 1080p KZread … do the fans turn on every 3-4 minutes?

@gzarari

Жыл бұрын

@@omrupavatia7641 if you want to game ,just get a asus zephyrus 14 inch. Its cheaper with a 3060 and way faster.

@kooostia16

3 ай бұрын

@@patrick.771 bot, writing same comment

For any of you who have purchased a Lenovo Yoga with a dedicated GPU, like for example an RTX 4070, are they actually capable of gaming? I am planning on switching from my Legion 5 Pro (I5-12500, RTX 3060) to a Yoga (probably an I9-13xxx, RTX 4070). Is the 4070 in a Yoga so underwatted that it actually may be behind the RTX3060 of a Legion? Thank you in advance

If possible can you please also take a look at ryzen 7xxx and 13th gen?

@maxjames00077

Жыл бұрын

I havent seen any 7xxx yet but seen some 13th gens now in the store

Hey guys, quick question, im thinking on buying a new laptop, i can't decide between asus rog strix scar 15 (2022) and xmg neo 15 (m22), both laptops with rtx 3070 ti but strix scar with intel i9-12900H and xmg neo with amd ryzen 9 6900HX, but the whole water cooling system of xmg push me kinda towards it, what y'all suggest

@visualcalli1892

11 ай бұрын

Hello ..would like to know which one did you get or buy and how is it ....battery life ?....and which is better between the amd and Intel one

I have an AMD QL-64 processor, 2.1 Ghz, 1800 mhz FSB. It had a speed limit problem, Cod 4 was running at very slow speed with 512 mb Ati. After taking out the 2 choppers with the rockets (located at the bus), the speed increased dramatically. I checked on Cpu -z, the FSB dropped to 1700 mhz, causing the cpu speed increase.

i have an asus rog strix with ryzen 9 6900hx, when i run the cinebench r23, the clock speed is maintained at 3?3 Ghz, is that normal since even while having the pc on idle the clock speed is way over 4Ghz?

It will be interesting to see what the impact of using big.Little and chiplets in the same CPU architecture on 3nm.

Awesome review as always! Thank you!

How would under-volting these machines do in the same tests?

Are any of these laptops suitable for CAD software? like AutoCAD or ExoCAD (for dentistry)?

Brilliant, my friend. I couldn't care about these laptops at all. It's about the person talking. 1. No flashy intros 2. no loud music 3. no hyperbole 4. Immediately down to business. 5. Total business like, professional delivery, no drama - straight to facts and to the point. 99% of youtubers should pay you to learn how to present. You deserve many many more subscribers. MKBHD could learn a thing from you. Kudos!

@thraxberserker9960

Жыл бұрын

Just congratulate the man on a good video why bring another KZread into the equation that’s corny as hell

@giorgosab9986

Жыл бұрын

💀

@shroud4269

4 ай бұрын

Then why did you not only click the video but watch it long enough to form that opinion and then make a highly articulated comment like. What a weirdo

@SimplerTrades

4 ай бұрын

@@shroud4269 You ever click on a random video, and watch it. No never? I found the guys delivery and presenatation very good. ANd I complaneted him you have litle going on in your life to make such a comment.I pity you.

Sir, do you think buying Lenovo's Legion 5 2022 series is a Good idea and which one Intel or AMD?

is your Amd laptop Ryzen 9 6900HS , 32 GB RAM and RTX 3050 can it handle AFTER EFFECTS?

crazy to see the multicore difference between laptops with better cooling solutions for instance, my legion 5i pro can achieve 19000 comfortably on multicore cb23 consistently on the 12700h. The 12700h was a huge leap for intel for sure. I imagine the 13700 will be far ahead of AMD equivalent this year.

@taylorp3685

Жыл бұрын

@6heh ummm I’d love to if I knew what platform to reply on lol

@kieranlee9610

Жыл бұрын

you do realise its an i7 against something that should be against the i9 this performance for the intel laptop is amazing understanding that it is against something that should be better

Screen problem : I've got a Lenovo Yoga slim 7 Pro 16 ACH6, bought january 2022. Good screen, fast enough when on sector, but 2 USB a and 1 USB C connectors only, poor battery life and now, after just one year, the screen is starting to separate from the top case at the hinge level (right side). Lenovo tells me that this is not to be considered warranted. Has anybody had this king of dafault ?

Which one is better ryzen 3 5300U or intel i5 1155G7 for gaming I need quick answer

How can this be an apple to apple comparison if one has Ryzen 9 and the other has intel 7? And the RAM is faster on one laptop?

6900HS supports USB 4 (40 Gbps) FYI, my Asus Flow X16 has a beta BIOS out now supporting it - just waiting for final release.

what's the wallpaper in the grey model?

Bro is Lenovo legion slim 5 Ryzen 7 7840HS RTX 4060 @112k ($1350) a good choice or Lenovo legion 5i i7 14th HX series RTX 4060 @155k ($1867) where as Slim 5 has 230w adaptor & 80whr battery Display same as 5i and as for Legion 5i it has 300w adaptor & 100whr battery but only lasts 5.3hrs and Slim 5 lasts for 8hrs approx... Should I really invest over 40k ($480) on that performance what i7 14th gen offers.... Eagerly waiting for your reply 🙏🤍

I recently bought an asus s14 with an h series processor with oled screen, it runs cs go very smoothly with no lagg whatsoever. I don't know if it's available in america as i bought It in india. I am very happy with it.

The AMD version is on sale at Costco for $1100. Surprised the Intel version has an HDMI port, you'd think it would be the other way around since AMD doesn't have thunderbolt.

@Jabid21

Жыл бұрын

Seems laptop makers always find a way to nerf their AMD lineup to push the higher priced Intel models to professionals who actually need TB or HDMI. Even a USB4 port or a 20Gbps usb 3.x gen y would’ve been a better compromise for the lack of TB.

@PsychoticBacon19

Жыл бұрын

​@@Jabid21if that's the tradeoff for a lower price, that's something most of us normies would gladly take. Professionals can go pay extra and support innovation, it'll trickle down to us eventually.

@Jabid21

Жыл бұрын

@@PsychoticBacon19 oh you sweet summer child. These companies don't need money from professionals to fund innovation. All that is funding is shareholder profits. Reaganomics never really trickle down and innovation won't happen without competition. Intel was resting on its laurels for far too long until they got sucker punched by AMD and Apple.

Finally, the comparison I’ve been waiting for.

@racerex340

Жыл бұрын

The price and battery life are only parts about this comparison that was surprising. I'm not at all surprised that the Alder Lake platform had better single threaded performance, and therefore roughly 5% higher gaming performance at 1080p given the higher core clock boosting and faster memory, nor am I surprised at the Intel machine outpacing this AMD in cinebench given the 25% additional hardware threads on the Intel side. Even in closer CPU performing scenarios, given the same GPU, Intel tends to squeeze a little more out of Nvidia GPU's. The battery life makes no sense given what we've seen with other Ryzen 6000 HS and Alder lake laptops, I'm calling a poorly calibrated balanced power profile on the AMD side. I have a 6900HS in my G14 and it somehow does better in most of the benchmarks (gaming isn't fair comparison as I have a 6800), but I think Lenovo has some additional tuning to do here for power efficiency. Everything else is as expected, except for the price, that AMD laptop should be $150 cheaper with the same size SSD and amount of RAM. Either AMD is overplaying their hand, or Lenovo is trying to use the AMD system and lack of public awareness to capture additional margin per unit sold.

Pretty much confounded as to why the Legion 7 and Legion 7i weren't compared in a similar video. They both are identical in everything except the part where Legion 7 is technically an all-AMD system, so those benchmarks would have been cool to see as well.

@mariuspuiu9555

Жыл бұрын

it's the laptops he got to review.

@daltonv5206

Жыл бұрын

I've been wondering the same thing. If I ran a tech channel I'd be all over testing the same laptops with different hardware to make sure my viewers could get the best laptop that fits their needs.

Pretty good, but still previous gen. I'm waiting to see what comes this year, as both companies look promising as well.

@defnotatroll

Жыл бұрын

AMD is much more promising. 12th to 13th gen is barely an upgrade

@HDRPC

Жыл бұрын

@@defnotatroll 13 gen can perform same as 12 gen while using 1/3 power as we already seen in desktops and without changing node which is insane. Same 10nm node. You can also say it is way way faster in raw single core and multicore workloads. Huge L2 cache improvements also. It means 13900k is already performing better than 12900k(240watt) while using 65 to 80 watt. 13 gen laptops will perform a lot faster with the same power as 12 gen. Oems can lower power consumption for light weight laptops for little bit more performance but better battery life. This year meteolake is also coming with 7nm(Intel 4). New node after 12 and 13 gen.

@EntekCoffee

Жыл бұрын

@@HDRPC Very interesting. Do you have a source saying that Raptor Lake can match Alder Lake by using a third of the power? AMD did wonders too in the power efficiency department. They managed to pack 12 cores 24 threads in a package that consumes the same amount of power as 6 core CPUs. Very interesting times ahead on the CPU world.

@xmaverickhunterkx

Жыл бұрын

@@HDRPC Must be said that not all workloads work well in Intel's "big little", and all cores being the same can be beneficial. But we'll have to see the actual products.

@mastroitek

Жыл бұрын

@@HDRPC though desktop chips are pushed way past the efficiency sweet spot while mobile cpus operate around it. So I would expect a more moderate gain in efficiency.

Would I play the sims 3 on that laptop? I bought the 14-Ryzen with 16 ram and 1 TB version.

I'd get an LG Gram 17" at about 3lb (wish they offered a choice of keyboard layout though). I'm going to hold off though as I'm hoping next year they'll have an 18" 3lb oled model.

@PandaMoniumHUN

Жыл бұрын

LTT's review of the Gram said that it is pretty bad, just a heads up.

@SunsetNova

Жыл бұрын

LG will release a 19" version in 2025 best to wait for that

@boedilllard5952

Жыл бұрын

@@PandaMoniumHUN I saw it - he doesn't like the flexibility of it - which I understand but unless you are using your dell to protect you from IED's in fallujah. 95% of my customers choose lighter over bulletproof. It is just a matter of preference. Most of my customers are not 20 year old males so hauling when ass from A to H in O'hare every extra pound of luggage matters particularly when not rolling your luggage. They bring it back and forth to work each day so they opt for lighter. I'm not saying the others are bad - this is why they make vanilla and chocolate ice cream and my dad would say. I give my clients a choice of brands as I use the same image with a few driver tweaks and everybody at the different company chooses LG, except one company that gets Dell because they are less expensive.

nice to see. Starting to see a few 13th gen laptops listen here, no zen 4 yet, though. And really very few models, will be interesting to see comparisons

@maxjames00077

Жыл бұрын

Yeah same here! I'm waiting for 14th Gen tho. Since it probably will be released not too long from now (they are doing like 5 nodes in 4 years)

I think you're minimizing the thunderbolt aspect in terms of using a thin and light laptop. With a 3050 you can run a lot of professional software (for example engineering software) and having the option of a one port docking possibility is unrivaled.

@fn5k

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. This depends on the user, though. A laptop without TB is completely useless to me. Users that never dock probably don’t care. It’s still an important consideration and should have been mentioned in conclusion.

@aakashbhavsar4620

Жыл бұрын

​@@fn5k apologies! not a tech savy but if you are saying the AMD usb c 3.2 gen won't support docks? as in you can't extend it over multiple screens?

Thank you Can you tutorial how you make and edit benchmarks 05:51

the fact that AMD manage to keep up with an intel with much newer Architecture and more cores is insane. cant wait to see the R9 7000 Series

@suntzu1409

Жыл бұрын

You could generate meteor/arrow lake hopium on similar lines:: "Raptor lake can keep up with zen 4s in spite of using way older nodes and cores. Cant wait for meteor/arrow lake!!!!"

@Harryd06

Жыл бұрын

fan boy relapses he lost

@abdullahzafar4401

Жыл бұрын

@@suntzu1409 Intel's 10nm is actually more dense then TSMC 7nm, so AMD keeping up is seriously impressive and we'll where competetion goes after 2025 when Intel figures out their new fabs and amd will have to choose b/w Samsung and TSMC , cause Samsung is way ahead in nano-sheet fabs , alsjfkndfnlasjdkflnljakdsd,afn, It's all fun we'll seeee 🤣

@curiosity1331

Жыл бұрын

@@Harryd06 when you are actually an intel fanboy:

@Raderade1-pt3om

2 ай бұрын

@@curiosity1331 only people I see bitching are amd fanbois, got entire subreddits echo chambers dedicated to that

I would love to know your thoughts on the M2 MacBook Pro

I'm so much excited for the Acer Predator Helios 18 with the RTX 4080 :D

Ryzen 5 5500U vs core i5 11 gen which is better for laptop?

For the performance metrics, would have been nicer to see the power scaling as opposed to whatever Lenovo chooses for the power modes. Same for the battery life test. Would be nicer to (for example) play a game frame-capped to 30fps, and see which system did best for battery.

@ABaumstumpf

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely - you need to compare them doing the same work to see which is "better". if the performance delivered is not the same then why the hell would anybody expect the same powerdraw?

@henkholdingastate

Жыл бұрын

Unbelievable what a self-contained arogant ashhole

PSA: B&H Photo seems to have the Intel version on sale for $1150 and a used model available for $896

@kentonyc

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this, the used model is mine now lol

I would have liked to include Apple silicon in this comparison. I'm wanting to switch to Apple and I don't know if it's worth it. Now I have a Lenovo Legion 5 AMD/7 5800H + RTX 350ti and I don't know how performs my system compared to M2/M2 Pro. From everything I've seen so far they seem to be equivalent. But how will it be using graphic programs?

@maxjames00077

Жыл бұрын

I think it depends on where you live. Are you from the states? In my country a 16 inch MBP M2 starts at like 3500$. That's starting price. U want more RAM and storage? 4-5k easy. It's just too much for me. Even though i love the design and it will probably last 5 years and then i can still sell it for a good price but it's too much.

@kieranlee9610

Жыл бұрын

usually mobile intel and amd cpus will rock the apples cpu like nothing else but apple cpu is also really low powered but then again whats the point in having a laptop that cant hit its full or even its medium potential

@maxjames00077

Жыл бұрын

@@kieranlee9610 bc almost nobody uses full power for more than a brief moment of the day. And even less people need fulll power away from a desk or power outlet. Intel will probably change their chips toward more efficient and less power drawn bc of this whole believe tho. But the real nerds know that its BS

@kieranlee9610

Жыл бұрын

@@maxjames00077 defeating the point its a 45w gaming mobile cpu they both are hence the H the low powered ones are U apples cpu is ARM based it would lose to everything here except battery life what use is it when you need something powerful to crunch processes

@kieranlee9610

Жыл бұрын

@@maxjames00077 and no you'd hit full power quite alot alot more than you think for one starting up the machine opening any resource intensive app you dont turn on full power it does it automatically when it needs to

Great video man..!

It all really comes down to if you wanted the Thunderbolts or not Processors nothing game breaking anymore

I'm happy with my ideapad 5 pro 14. 7735HS qnd iGPU lasts a whole day, I charge once a day. I have experienced lags but thats me tinkering with skins 😅 and it gets hot when I connect to external monitor and charge (100W propriety charger) at the same time. Still trying to figure out how to manage it. Overall, I love my Lenovo.

I have not watched the video yet.. but last year I got the intel version of this exact laptop.. the only reason why was because in canada they were selling the amd model with only 16gb of ram and the 4800hs, where as the intel 12700h had 32gb of ram.. but i hope i didn't get screwed with my choice...

@maxjames00077

Жыл бұрын

I love my 12700 so i dont think you did :D

A lot of power in a thin chassis can also bring a lot of heat. This is why a lot of laptop owners (myself included) are big into undervolting because thermal throttling is such a problem. The more power, the more heat and bad performance. Even the best cooling solution on a laptop fails compared to a desktop. It is frustrating because you really can't take advantage of that extra power in gaming or production in a laptop due to heat. Processors are really good today, but unless you can dissipate that heat, it means nothing. It is interesting what they are able to put into laptops today, but until the thermal issue is solved, it is going to be underwhelming. Also to note. While undervolting can keep temps down, you lose performance as the tradeoff. And it seems like the Intel chips are set to thermal throttle long before you get to 95 C; actually it starts sucking at 80 C. I just can't recommend any of these gaming laptops. They just don't perform very good and if you tweak them, you will lose production ability to game and vice versa. It is all a tradeoff.

@kugelblitz7946

Жыл бұрын

how do you undervolt a 12500H, which i have in my ASUS vivobook s15 OLED

@rattpisss

Жыл бұрын

what laptop would you recommend? im currently looking for a gaming/work/everday laptop but not sure what's best

@kugelblitz7946

Жыл бұрын

@@rattpisss once look at zephyrus series.. they have high performance and good looking budget laptops and id prefer Intel version in this generation and amd in last

@MeteCanKarahasan

Жыл бұрын

If you are purchasing a laptop higher than 15w tdp, you are a nutcase.

@donquijote6030

Жыл бұрын

Great comment, and I agree. One should not have to undervolt to stop your $1k-2k laptop from throttling or pumping out vast amounts of heat.

To me it was a simple decision. AMD was cheaper, performs really well and is more efficient. Atleast it was the case with the 5500U and its competitors which I bought because of the aforementioned reasons. Seems like Intel caught up this gen and prices are screwed either way.

@b.alexandru

11 ай бұрын

I agree with you, I chose AMD because it was better than the intel counterparts like the i5 or i3, the ryzen 5 5625u had the best resoults compared to its price.

@jhadvillegas

10 ай бұрын

@@b.alexandru nah bro intel is better

@b.alexandru

10 ай бұрын

@@jhadvillegas have you seen comparisons between AMD iGPUs and intel's?

@dreadlock17

9 ай бұрын

​@@jhadvillegasnope

@WEZFYKAN

6 ай бұрын

​@@b.alexandru just a question does the generation of the CPU or GPU matter

Today i made my choice and picked the Intel version of the same model. Not easy but ur video was helpful indeed because i was choosing between the same two devices! ✌️😉

I bought my wife a Intel ThinkPad T14s and me the Ryzen edition, fan volume is terrible on the intel version, but fully feature customizable option selection and software bug stability support. The AMD side has lot more issue with some random software bug affect the laptop hardware, but is less fan noise and consumption 50 watt max, so the 65 watt charger has enough juice for it but not enough with the Intel CPU🤦‍♂.

@Titere05

Жыл бұрын

I've a ryzen thinkpad and don't have any software issues. I find it hard to believe Lenovo would ship a laptop which consumes more power than what their brick provides. Sounds sus

@ksouvenir5561

Жыл бұрын

@@Titere05 You have a couple of year old AMD ThinkPad, anything AMD is always half backed at first before fix with software update, smaller company small price to pay 😔, otherwise no company need to push update fix 🙄. Made in China 🇨🇳 Lenovo is not IBM 🇺🇸, they are allow to ship the minumum requirement charger for anything, you can max out the performance for ~5% more if you plug a 85 watt charger with Intel CPU to catch the the peak performance during high workload but the heat ♨️ came out the keyboard and the noise level you will feel it yourself.

You should have tested more on these different power levels. If Hardware unboxed testing is true, the current AMD Chips have better multi-threaded performance under 35 W and the Intel chip over 35 W. So the AMD Chip has a different Power sweet spot, thus the different configuration by the manufacturer make sense. So it would be really nice to see battery life, Cinebench and maybe one representative game with the different power modes.

@mrgee9430

Жыл бұрын

Would love to echo this sentiment! Seeing battery life under constant loads at different power levels and reaulting performance is very insightful for full system performance/efficiency to compare laptops with.

@TRX25EX

Жыл бұрын

Bro Hardware Unboxed biggest AMD Fanboys ever, they act pro but many called them out hence some companies stopped sending their stuff to them

@sharanoth

Жыл бұрын

@@TRX25EX "Hardware Unboxed biggest AMD Fanboys ever" Hardware Unboxed latest video: "AMD greedy and incompetent" You're the one who seems to be an Intel Fanboy. Classic

@longdang2681

Жыл бұрын

​@@sharanoth Having a cigarette packet read 'smoking can cause cancer' does not mean that cigarette manufacturers do not promote smoking. HUB is biased towards AMD in what they say in their opinions. Things like 4 core@1GHz is likely to perform better than 1 core@4GHz(misleadingly promoting AMD's use of more cores at that time). More recently their Q&A claiming that more L3 cache is better(misleadingly promoting the AMD hype of their upcoming 7K X3D launch). Let's see if they have anything to say about the staggered launch of the 7800X3D. It's a shame because HUB does some really good testing across single segments.

@longdang2681

Жыл бұрын

@MyAqaa I said that HUB are biased in favour of AMD, it's not the same thing as calling them a fanboy. Maybe you could explain why they insist on claiming that 4x1GHz performs better than a single 4 GHz processor?(at the time favouring AMD multicore) Or why they don't make it clear that more L3 cache only really benefits certain gamers? (So many gamers play GPU bound games where upgrading to X3D offers poor value for money versus putting the money towards a better GPU.)

I have the ryzen 7 6800hs 32gb ram 1tb storage version, in aus there is no 6900hs, and the i7 is like $400 more than the amd one, and i have had no cpu bottle necks AND the 3050 draws around 35-45w from what i've seen depending on the game and whether it is cpu intensive or not. My laptop normally hits around 75 degrees while gaming.

@chiahsun907

Жыл бұрын

And standard battery life playing videos ? My bro bought an MSI i7 and the battery life is only an hour and 15 minutes playing video. It’s just outright ridiculous as I told him not chase for some FPS that you can’t feel but have to deal with garbage battery life.

@combativesquire4234

Жыл бұрын

@@chiahsun907 I can get about 5-6h 1440p video playback at 75% brightness and 120hz, drop to 1080p and 60hz and battery is even more.

I have a Zenbook 14 q407iq Ryzen 5 4500U, Nvidia MX350, 8GB RAM. I can: edit raw photos in Lightroom, edit FHD video in Premiere with ease and possibly 4K if i lower playback resolution and I can also game at moderate settings. All of that in a laptop that weighs 1.15 Kg and has a colour accurate display. Oh and I bought the thing for 700 euros (800 really cause i upgraded to a 1TB Nvme SSD)

I was looking at a noctis 450 review on KZread. I recognises the voice. Looked at your face.. then saw your channel name 😂. How different you looked back then

Can't wait for the 2023 versions of these laptops.

At Costco in the US, the AMD version costs $1600 so if you can get it there i would choose the AMD version over intel.

I see the 6900HS version as an extremely capable business laptop with great battery life for travel without having to look for an outlet all the time. Enough performance for all your task for such a laptop.

Ryzen 6th gen, RTX 3rd gen, Intel 12th gen, ... Should we wait 2024 to get 2023 components?

Interesting, I have had a ton of issues with AMD Ryzen 7 6800U with windows 11 to the point that my laptop is not usable to the work that I do. so I am having to buy a new one. I am not sure if I should risk and get another AMD Ryzen 7 7735U or a Intel Core i7-1360P Processor same laptop but 500 dollars difference in price range.

@MeteCanKarahasan

Жыл бұрын

Would you please elaborate? I just purchased one with 5625u.

@chadabey9623

Жыл бұрын

@@MeteCanKarahasan it is in the AMD website.. AMD windows issues.. the have a whole page of it.. the issue I was having is way to technical for me to explain but basically you could not use the laptop in certain programs.. the lag between the user input and the results were really bad.. all I can related to was similar to low ram or hardware compatibility.. but I am sure it is something more complicated than that

In web page it says HDMI 2.0 not 2.1

Those thin and light laptops are really a game changer. I finally got one last year (Asus Zenbook under $1000.00) and the battery life is really great for my needs for a whole workday. I just leave my charging brick at home and travel light. It's really hard to go back to a heavier laptops that I always had.

@Big_catlaflare

Жыл бұрын

Which Zenbook did you get? I’m in the market to get a new laptop

@one_step_sideways

Жыл бұрын

@@Big_catlaflare Probably Zenbook S14 with its big 70+Wh battery. But you should certainly only buy a laptop with 16GB of RAM. What do you do on the laptop? You should primarily get laptops with Ryzen 6000 series APUs.

@NeilNTR

Жыл бұрын

@@Big_catlaflare It's "UM3402" Mine had a Ryzen 7 5825. I think the newer 2023 version have up to date cpus 7000 series. The Intel version I think is UX3402. The screen is AMOLED.

@Big_catlaflare

Жыл бұрын

Right now I have a Zenbook 14 with a Ryzen 5500u mx450 gpu with 8gb of ram, i don’t really mind if it’s intel or amd, just need more ram and good port selection

what about the ryzen and amd gpu crossover? they kinda compliment each other

My burning question is how these laptops compare simply watching KZread videos. I had a Lenovo AMD 4750U-based laptop. The problem was the inferior power management. I played around with the Windows 10 power slider and power management modes to no avail. I could get the AMD laptop to either be quiet, but permanently limited to about 1.7GHz (even single core), or the fans would spool up and it would be loud when decoding KZread videos, drowning out the sound. The power management was bad. You had to switch modes every time you wanted to watch KZread. My subsequent Lenovo Intel Tiger Lake laptop is much better. The Windows 10 power management slider essentially controls the maximum fan level. In "Better Battery" mode it is consistently quiet, yet spools up to max turbo frequency on single cores no problem. The Intel laptop is day to day useable, while the AMD was annoying. I'd really love to know how the two laptops compare in a KZread test for loudness, especially with KZread videos that use demanding codecs. Has AMD improved with the 6000 series at all? I came away with the impression that the 4000 series was unrefined. For laptops that spend much of their time in light use, it's better if Cinebench numbers are balanced with actual useability.

@learnyee

Жыл бұрын

Somehow agreed with you on the bad power management optimisation on Lenovo Laptop. I had the Yoga 6 running AMD 5700U, on average it uses about 12-15W of power on battery, vs 1st Gen Asus G14 Ryzen 7 4800HS which runs on average of 9-12W on battery, by which the G14 runs much cooler on plug-in or battery, and runs much smoother compare to the 5700U. The only good thing on the Yoga 6 vs the G14 is the form factor, weight and a relatively small USB C 45W charger instead of the bigger and heavier power brick

@dex6316

Жыл бұрын

AMD had better power management with 5000 series and even better power management with 6000 series. The 6000 series is actually insane in its ability to power manage.

@accelerator5524

Жыл бұрын

next time, just dont buy a lenovo laptop

@suntzu1409

Жыл бұрын

​@@dex6316 Its more of a windows/software problem than hardware problem

@suntzu1409

Жыл бұрын

I see excessive boosting on my 1240p as well. The fans dont ramp up, but it just wastes energy and is very unnecessary

Seeing Zen 3+ hold up against Alder Lake like this is pretty impressive. Both options look super solid.

@handlemonium

Жыл бұрын

Still no USB4 support on Ryzen 6000/7000 laptops, eh?

@alexlowe2054

Жыл бұрын

It's impressive, which generally doesn't bode well for Intel when AMD's next gen laptop chips launch in spring.

@septiancahya

Жыл бұрын

@@handlemonium I have Lenovo R5 6600U, and it support USB4, you can use e-GPU as well

@Crashed131963

Жыл бұрын

The Ryzen is 8 Core (Threads: 16) The i7 is 14Core (Threads: 20) Thats suppose to be a close comparison?

@handlemonium

Жыл бұрын

@@Crashed131963 but Intel laptop CPUs have less big P-cores so it evens out.

I think i7 to ryzen 7 would be fair or am I wrong?

For that amount of money I would expect a larger SSD 1TB seem small

If you don't need TB... get the older AMD version (5000 H series) they are way more affordable and still a nice device to own and use! My ASUS Vivobook was $900 (USD) with the 5800H, 16GB, 3050 and OLED... Have nothing to complain about (was looking at the Lenovo Slim 7 Pro - non X but was more expensive and found that a lot of users had keyboard issues).

amd tuned to be power efficient and less heat while intel is on performance while causing too much heat the problem is laptop nowadays are thinner and thinner which makes it difficult for heat dissipation.

Why would you put thread count over core count in your spec intro? The Ryzen is 8 Core (Threads: 16) The i7 is 14Core (Threads: 20) Thats suppose to be a close comparison?

They probably figured out a BIOS that will seamlessly disable P-Cores when you're unplugged and there's no load so it doesn't even draw a heck of a lot of standby power for those cores. On Eco mode or whatever it's called chances are you're only running E-Cores, just that 1) this is still a newer architecture and 2) you still have eight of them, so it doesn't end up feeling like using a Netbook with a larger screen. I think Dell figured this out first last year and I was holding out for the G15 and M15 hoping that if I ever have to take it on the go (and without the time to get it off battery life extender mode and fully charge the thing before I shove it into my backpack) I wouldn't worry too much about running out of juice while having more cache for gaming. Thanks to recent price drops though I just went with AMD+NVidia.

@cameronbosch1213

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, that's what SHOULD have been done with E-cores. The P-cores should be disabled on battery life unless tougher tasks are called upon. I mean, could the lack of that be why AMD did better in terms of battery life in 2022?

@defnotatroll

Жыл бұрын

I have one of these lenovos and the p cores do not get disabled on battery. From my experience it's actually the opposite. I checked task manager once and all the e cores were at 0% usage whilst the p cores had constant 5% or less usage

@Z020852

Жыл бұрын

@@cameronbosch1213 When Intel announced this back in early 2021 I totally thought that was how it would work, ie it'd only load up the big cores when you launch anything and run something intensive enough. At best Windows would run on one pCore but the scheduler is there to offload a lot of Windows tasks to the eCores. Then the 12th gen laptops happened and batt life still kind of sucked until that one Dell ultrabook came out. Can't even remembee which one it was and what channel did the review but they specifically said there that the pCores basically don't just draw less power when loaded, they're practically inactive it's like sleep mode. The way I understood the explanation it was like having a start-stop hybrid.

@Z020852

Жыл бұрын

@@defnotatroll So in car terms these are basically like having a hybrid that runs the gas engine on extreme eco mode, and then runs the electric engines to add power when on Hoghway or Sport Mode (or when the rear tires are slipping at lower traction scenarios). Basically a good 4cyl hybrid like the Rav4 Prime than putting an Audi 4cyl on the front axle of a Tesla so you don't get stuck in an area without a charging station.

@defnotatroll

Жыл бұрын

@@Z020852 I'm really curious as to what video you're talking about, was it an XPS 13 plus? Try and remember the channel please

What laptop should I buy for the same prize and with 14inch, Windows preferred

@alevilikvealeviler

Жыл бұрын

buy the AMD chip version, in balanced an battery-life mode it performans way better, look at the power usage on the first two minutes somewhere it is visible 15 Watts (AMD) against 35 Watts (Intel), and calculate yourself

No code compilation tests?? Only video editing benchmarks... Try running some phoronix benchmarks

Great comparison. I am frustrated by how companies still use Thunderbolt 4 and only include it on their intel machines when they could probably just as easily implement USB 4 and include the massive benefits of those ports on all the SKUs.

@shaze4497

Жыл бұрын

I think thunderbolt can only be used for Intel and Apple machines

No mention on performance on battery?

@alevilikvealeviler

Жыл бұрын

the AMD chip performans better on battery, 15 Watts and you have 50% of your performance, whilst the Intel chip requires you around 35 Watts for the same

Nice video man

The 5 star ad was great 🤣

I hate that we got not many budget, and silent laptops with amd apu only(I mean with cooling system like in laptops in this video, it should be much silent )

Which is best for long term Intel vs AMD

i have the amd one, i love it. but im dissapointed in the lack of usb 4. which has made me think of returning it somehow even though im past the return date.. i might try

@alevilikvealeviler

Жыл бұрын

i have the AMD option, not just a second I would think of returning it, ... the battery performance in battery-life mode or balanced mode is superior

@SkysTrains

Жыл бұрын

@@alevilikvealeviler yeah. I was thinking of going with the Asus amd 6800u one and use an egpu (I have a 3060) for better battery life and smaller

@aakashbhavsar4620

Жыл бұрын

what is major drawback of not having thunderbolt 4?

All I know is that my xps 15 with 12900k and 3050ti is pretty amazing. This is from a guy running 13900k and 4090 in my main pc.

Do you guys prefer R5 4500u?

stealth 15 a13v or sword?

Always the tradeoff between thin and performance. Think I'd rather got with a slightly thicker design and pay less or just get more perf for the money with a better GPU. Been sub $1000CAD laptops with 3050's lately.

I got the Dell G15 AMD RYZEN 7 - RTX 3050ti last June for 800

Performance is great for charts but if you run out of battery a whole hour before it really doesn't matter.

TL;DR: Do either of these actually use the integrated graphics card when connected to an external HDMI Display? Context: I was somewhat disappointed to hear that both of these computers have integrated GPUs, in addition to the dedicated graphics card. I had an Acer V7 laptop in the past, which had an Nvidia graphics card (model 750M). When connected to an external display, via an existing HDMI port, at 1080p resolution, with a Windows 10 operating system, this Acer laptop made no use of the Nvidia graphics card; and instead opted to use the integrated Intel GPU for the purpose of presenting video on the external TV display. Later on, I have installed the mint Linux system on this same Acer laptop. Somehow, the Linux system surprised me and was easily able to make use of the dedicated graphics card when connected through that same HDMI port to that same TV display. The video viewing experience was immensely better. But alas, I use Windows in my day today Computing experience. Ever since that experience, I have been wary of purchasing any laptop with an integrated GPU. Which seems to be a difficult thing to avoid nowadays. To the point: Does either the amd, or the intel, version of this Lenovo laptop make actual and full use of the dedicated Nvidia Graphics card, when connected to an external display? (either via the HDMI port on the intel, or via a USB to HDMI adapter, on the AMD version) Please and thank you 🍒

For me, the huge reason for the intel is the HDMI port and the two Thunderbolt ports. Interesting that you kind of glossed over that, and didn't include it in your summery of which one you would buy.

@CrongTech

Жыл бұрын

Yep. TB4 is something to consider but im kinda mixed with the hdmi as I prefer extra usb port over an hdmi port

@nicolaspaglione

Жыл бұрын

For me I really don’t have a use for tb4 but that’s probably because I only do school work and games and since I have two houses

@youknowho2541

11 ай бұрын

I have a 34" 1800R Curved USB Hub Monitor so the Thunderbolt ports were a deal sealer for me. Avoid gaming laptops and get the productivity laptops. With Dell, Lattitude line up is the move!!!

isnt this redundant considering 13th gen?

So i have 2 laptops, same price, same everything except CPU and RAM: Intel Core i7 13700h + 16gb ram VS AMD Ryzen 7 7840hs + 32gb ram, never used and, heard some bad rumors ( which i hope are not true ) and i cant decide.

How do these two laptops compare to Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro?

@popokatapetl6995

Жыл бұрын

Much better quality

@rinordardani5603

Жыл бұрын

@@popokatapetl6995 Which one?

Can AMD processor run Adobe applications?

@alevilikvealeviler

Жыл бұрын

pretty well, some algorithms do not work so efficient, but you won't notice it, if you are not on battery mode

Which is better for programming? Intel core or Ryzen?

@Hello.c612

Жыл бұрын

Intel

@paneledp

Жыл бұрын

they usually dont matter, however if youre planning to do it on the go, you should go with amd

The AMD one was on sale over Christmas for only $1299.

@alevilikvealeviler

Жыл бұрын

@@yankeewog it's AMD, the AMD chip is cheaper, way cheaper than the Intel chip, therefore you'll see more discounts on the AMD version

@chromaticvisuelle

5 ай бұрын

I missed one second hand for 448$, so sad.

hello, I need a laptop hp 13 " ; even used ; tks

which is better ASUS Vivobook 16X AMD Ryzen (8GB, 1TB) 16-Inch Laptop X1603QA-MB283W OR Asus VivoBook 16 Intel Core i5 7730U 13th Gen 16-inch FHD Laptop (16GB, 512GB) X1605YA-MB098W?