Download the tools: Intel XTU (Extreme Tuning Utility) www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/17881/intel-extreme-tuning-utility-intel-xtu.html Cinebench 2024 www.maxon.net/en/cinebench HardwareMonitor (www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html) HWInfo64 (www.hwinfo.com/download/) Related videos: Is your CPU thermal throttling? kzread.info/dash/bejne/pYp5usZmh9Oedrw.html Where should you install your AIO liquid cooler? The best places tested! kzread.info/dash/bejne/o4WX27uBd9enotY.html Common Mistakes You Might be Making with Your PC Fan Setup! PC airflow tips and tricks kzread.info/dash/bejne/p4R9r9hsYLnZY9o.html Do you have a bottleneck in your gaming PC? CPU and GPU bottlenecks explored kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZ6azcWhmN2zgZM.html

@rankisdumb214

4 ай бұрын

The Intel 14900k has an AI tuning option in the Intel ETU. It's only available on the I9 14900's. Out of curiosity what bios settings do you run? Do you just run F5 recommended settings with XMP enabled? I use a Asus z790-a gaming wifi DDr5 board paired with the 13900k. What drives me nuts if the performance can vary greatly. With just a few changes like using optimized phase XMP I've been able to score as high as 24,000 on Time spy under the CPU and 31,450 on my GPU (7900 xtx). I use 3 different benchmarks. 1. CBr23. Best score 40,090 worst score 36,000 2. 3d mark. CPU all core 17,400 to 16,700. Single core 1170 to 1270. Time spy cpu score anywhere from 24,000 to 21,850 3. Intel XTU. I can score anywhere from 13,100 to 14,000 I try and use the same settings when I update my bios but I'm seing big jumps in benchmark scores! Idk why I'm losing so much performance! I've tried all kinds of different bios settings. I've tried using Intel ETU. Idk what's up but with the newest Bios my System agent voltages jumped to 1.35. it was 1.25 for the first 3 bios when my scores were higher! Idk if the extra voltage is causing the ram to to be less effective.. idk what to do, but I do prefer to get the performance I paid for. Especially since I once had it perfectly scoring 13,900 to 14,000 on the Intel XTU benchmark and 23,800 to 24,000 Time spy CPU score. All while hitting 5.7+ ghz. Getting over 200fps on Asseto Corsa Competizione. The one thing I will say is I regret buying the 7900 xtx Tiachi (white) I honestly feel my 3080ti worked better. I'm about to sell or trade it for 4070ti or super. Nvidia just seems to work better for my Sim titles

Paraphrasing, you mentioned "avoid applying undervolt every time the machine boots up" is this only when using XTU? or in general

It would be very usefull to find out the issue with the Intel ETU i get the same issue as you have. I have a Intel I7-14700KF with the Asus Rog strix Z790-H wifi motherboard. I can set the undervolt but every startup i have to set it again. I don't know exact in the bios wich setting it is to set the undervolt as i would do it in bios to override this issue. Thanks fot the help!

I just Changed my Push Pull like you had in your previous video! thank you so much

@TheProvokedPrawn

2 ай бұрын

Makes quite a difference

@PizzlesTechTime

2 ай бұрын

@@TheProvokedPrawn Yes I also added a RAM fan for the DDR5 even though it doesn't get that hot. I can only run four sticks at 5000 MHz. My p core seven is still throttling. I'm wondering if there's an air bubble in the paste. This is my first CPU install. Last editing PC was pre-built and AMD it never got too 🔥

@DETERMINOLOGY

7 күн бұрын

You have to look at specs, what case you have, whats your fan set up, What air cooler or aio you using. Is your room hot. Everything has to be thought out for the cpu temps to be raised

that did help had exhuat fans that where not performing, so took out the back fan and the one i had under GPU and all if better and repaste made a world of a difference, i don't know how to undervolt so i cant mess with that have not found a video, for people like myself to explain what each setting does and whats its for, an there's so many in today's motherboard, TY for Sharing PRO-VO

thank you thank you thank you. I have the issue of the watchdog timer never working properly (the driver update didn't do anything). Curious why this is - did anyone figure this out and get the watchdog timer to work? btw.. undervolting by -0.005 was enough to make the temp stay below 100 and stop doing the BSOD I was getting. Have lost some performance according to benchmarks and cinebench. just glad to have stopped the crashing tbh

Thank you SO much for this video....to the point, clearly explained, and just what I really really needed. Most of the other videos on YT just waffle on endlessly before getting to the point, I have wasted many hours wading through them and could have saved so many if I'd seen this one first 🙂

@TheProvokedPrawn

24 күн бұрын

Thanks. If you have an i9 then be aware of this too kzread.info/dash/bejne/gKFqyLqGZbTRZpM.html

Thank you so much for this! I think I turned AI OC on (and XMP off) by mistake, and it's keeping my CPU voltage at 1.6v and then hitting 100C.

Highly technical video that could prove to be a lifesaver for many of us who are struggling to get the best performance out of our systems. A video that demands to be watched several times on an auxilary computer while experimenting with various settings and methods explained and applying them on the main machine ! Excellent video on the subject !!!

What are your thoughts on Asus multicore enhancement? Should this be disabled potentially to help with temps? Idk if it has quite a performance hit with it being disabled. Also, do you know the part in the ASUS bios directly relating to the offset so once you find the level you like with XTU, you can then apply it on a BIOS level?

@blvzvr

3 ай бұрын

I would also like a response for these 👍🏽

@PoorBoy.22

3 ай бұрын

In the ASUS BIOS under "Ai Tweaker" you would set "Global Core SVID Voltage" to adaptive, "Offset Mode sign" to minus, then change "Offset Voltage" to whatever you prefer ( I started with .050)

@mza2001

2 ай бұрын

@@PoorBoy.22should we disable ASUs multi enhancement aswell then? Or a power limit of 90w better?

@PoorBoy.22

2 ай бұрын

@@mza2001 it's all personal preference and how your system I setup. I disabled multicore enhancement on mine but left power limit as the stock value. I was mainly going for lower Temps but some people want less power consumption.

did you manage to make the xtu tunning working without needing to apply the uv every time?. becasue then after finding the ideal tunning would be a good idea to apply those setitings on the bios and forget about it right?

@TheProvokedPrawn

Ай бұрын

Sadly not.

In the Intel XTU I have a yellow lightning bolt that says Undervolt Protection, how do I turn that off? It’s not in advanced settings

undervolting is such a clutch, i manage to take off -14c from my i5 with just a small 0.7 offset

@GD2X

Ай бұрын

Small lol. In what world is reducing 70mv considered small?

Hello, at minute 7.40 explain for the problem that does not allow you to save the settings. I have the same problem and unfortunately trying to update the drivers nothing has changed. I have an Asus Z790-E Gaming WiFi II and I9-14900K, how can I solve the problem, have you found a solution?

@mnb2189

3 ай бұрын

Yeah. My xtu doesn’t save either

Excelent vídeo thanks bud!.

@TheProvokedPrawn

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

i have a lot of issues where i need to downclock and set my wattage to 253 to keep apps & games from crashing

I did undervolt my old pc, but with my new 13700k; i just set voltage to a max of ov 1.2, and it never gets above 80c underload. I am considering doing an actual undervolt though. I just hate having to find the sweet spot, it's annoying lol.

So turn off AI overclocking and Use intel Program to Optimize?

So First I need to Disable AI Overclocking or do i keep at normal in bios ?

@DerekRAustin

3 ай бұрын

Confusingly Normal is off in the ASUS bios

Sad my 14900kf can only do -0.030v undervolting, -0.035 then cinebench r24 freezes

I tend to stick to using the higher-end stock-clocked AMD 65W CPU's that natively run cooler, & then ditch the stock AMD single 96mm Wraith Fan cooler that comes with it for something more robust. I recently paired a Ryzen 9 7900 12C/24T CPU with a DEEPCOOL AK620 Digital CPU cooler (twin tower heatsinks w/2 120mm fans) so that it stay as cool as is possible in a good air-cool build. No need to overclock. overheat & overstress components if you buy & match the right hardware for the right resolution target (1440p in my case). I also opted for the coolest (& most quiet) running 7800-XT GPU that I could find via online research - which is the ASUS TUF 7800-XT.

Can someone tell me how to set a 85 degree temp limit for my 14900k with a z790 Dark Hero bios?

@2:07 i was finding the Ai optimized profile was givig the cpu 1.65v everytime it would boost to 6.2GHz (14900K+z790 Strix with Hive Addon) didnt like seeing cpu get that much voltage and 100c+ did some tinkering in Digital vrm section of bios had it down to 1.39-1.45v but wasnt stable even with locking cores to 5.5GHz e-cores 4.5ghz.

Did you figure out how you got Watchdog to show as true? This seems to be the major problems with XTU and Asus mobos

@TheProvokedPrawn

4 ай бұрын

Sadly not yet

@MrSkuLLz824

2 ай бұрын

Do you think you could do a bios undervolting tutorial so people with the wachdog issue can undervolt with confidence? Theres not 1 walkthrough on youtube for ASUS mobo and I think it would bring a lot of views and help a lot of people @@TheProvokedPrawn

@MrPyroblastic

Ай бұрын

… and you will never figure out. Asus ROG motherboards favor their own overclocking methods via bios or armoury crate. Watch Dog doesn’t work on Asus ROG

so basicly intel XTU always resets when i RR my pc ?

Hi.. I need help.. the watchdog timer update thing didnt work for me! Please Help! Did you manage to find a solution? 13900k ASUS STRIX z 790 E

@GamerOmerr

2 ай бұрын

I have this problem too. If you can solve it, please post a comment.

Great video. Got an AMD Version?

@TheProvokedPrawn

5 ай бұрын

Afraid not. I don't have as much experience with AMD

@isaX5

5 ай бұрын

I wish u had an AMD version. My 5800x3d runs hot

As requested, cant get Watchdog to test positive on an ASUS Z790 MB. Have been unable to get XTU to restore after reboot, so it's basically useless. Would love to know if you ran this issue down and found a solution.

@TheProvokedPrawn

3 ай бұрын

Sadly I've not found a solution yet 😞

@thiento3675

3 ай бұрын

You can use XTU to dial in the undervolt amount then you will need to go into the BIOS to input the undervolt for it to stick. I have an ASUS Strix Z690i and use this method. Not as user friendly but it will work.

have you found a way to tick the greyed out after reboot thing? im also having the same issue and updating the watchdog didnt help at all

@TheProvokedPrawn

Ай бұрын

Sadly not.

@YellyVin

Ай бұрын

@@TheProvokedPrawn thats a bummer ig i cant use the app now coz i dont wanna ruin my cpu by undervolting it everytime i get on

@YellyVin

Ай бұрын

@@TheProvokedPrawn nvm i fixed it! i just updated my bios and it fixed it! so imma just leave it here incase anyone encounters the same problem so yeah hope it helps

mine in cinebench never got red or even past 91 so im good then not thermal throttling?

@TheProvokedPrawn

5 ай бұрын

Nice. Sounds good.

cinebench test crashes my pc 1min into it already, im starting to think having 4x 8gb memmory from with differrent timings put together with xmp isnt working as well as i thought..

@TheProvokedPrawn

4 ай бұрын

Probably not!

Try the CPU contact frame. Don't use the stock retention arm

@kasarnfla

3 ай бұрын

There is nothing wrong with the stock frame. People have been using it for over a decade with no problem. So send out bad information.

@pangeranrio0112

3 ай бұрын

@@kasarnfla watch Gamers Nexus about the contact frame. Because the stock retention arm or called stock ILM puts an uneven pressure of the CPU like just on the one side only, thus making the CPU hot

@kasarnfla

3 ай бұрын

@@pangeranrio0112 I have watch it and own the Thermal Grizzly one. You statement makes it out to be life and death, it isnt. Your cpu will do just fine with the stock frame but will benefit from the contact frame. Nobody has to go get one. Its an option. Be careful how you word things.

@kasarnfla

2 ай бұрын

@@kalzwirazrd Im not getting into a keyboard war. They work but not needed. People do all these benchmarks when in everyday use your pc will never see those temperatures. Those tools are used as marketing devices to get people to spend money on things they dont need to. If it gave you 20 fps that would be great but I never seen anything but a trivial temperature reduction that will not extend the life of any pc. If it does shows us the evidence that you have personally seen not what your being feed.....

@bougougesjeweleryworld

2 ай бұрын

Stock arm is just fine actually, the CPU bending is only a thing cause you install your CPU then screw the motherboard in causing uneven pressure, put your backplates on for a cooler if necessary, screw your motherboard in all screw holes, then install the CPU and cooler to keep the pressure locked on the motherboard

Watchdog not working for me.. Asus Z790-Plus, i7 14700kf. Maybe you can do a video on how to undervolt in the bios?

@TheProvokedPrawn

3 ай бұрын

I did one a while back but the bios is different from board to board so it can be confusing kzread.info/dash/bejne/g4pm2pp_qrG2Yc4.html

@Jigsaw2533

3 ай бұрын

@@TheProvokedPrawn Thank you this is exactly what I'm looking for! My mobo is Z790-plus so almost the same settings. But mine says: Actual VRM core voltage Global core SVID voltage Cache SVID voltage Do I just set offset on global core svid? or cache also?

My Asus has that watchdog issue, can’t click the box that for saving settings upon reboot.

@TheProvokedPrawn

3 ай бұрын

Sadly I've not found a workaround for it.

@stefancz9336

3 ай бұрын

I have the same issue 😢

I can't click on the box to bring tune back in on reboot, I'd be interested if you found a fix, thanks.

@TheProvokedPrawn

2 ай бұрын

Afraid not

How did you undervolt your cpu? My XTU (same version as yours) needs undervolt protection enabled to open in win11 and in this way I can’t undervolt

@rankisdumb214

4 ай бұрын

I was having that issue also! Turn core isolation off in your windows protection app(I forget what it's called). It's down on the right when you bring up the background programs running.. Then I uninstalled and reinstalled all my drivers and Intel ETU and it all of a sudden worked . It could also be an outdated Bios on your motherboard!

@keithbryan1001

4 ай бұрын

@@rankisdumb214drivers like gpu and cpu drivers?

@rankisdumb214

4 ай бұрын

@@keithbryan1001 no there's a little shield 🛡️ like that when you pull up the icons on the bottom right of your screen. It's the Microsoft protection app.... You can turn off core isolation in there. It's automatically off with my current Bios and Microsoft install

@rankisdumb214

4 ай бұрын

@@keithbryan1001 or just Google turn core isolation off in windows

@keithbryan1001

4 ай бұрын

@@rankisdumb214 yeah i have core isolation off and still wont let me undervolt with intel xtu

could you make and amd versioon please?

Please help with asrock z790

I have an Asus Maximus Z790 Dark Hero board and the only thing I do is to Enforce All Limits on the bios instead of setting it to Let Bios Optimize. The temperatures are around 15C lower. Please try it out. You'll see there won't be any need for extra undervolting.

@BTbr0adbandGamingChannel

5 ай бұрын

@kaanaslan_tr What do you mean force all limits in bios, I have i9 14900k and a Asus z790 e WiFi board and I'm having problems with CPU reaching too high in unreal 5 engine to where it shut /restarts my pc as the CPU looks to be getting too hot. I'm also using the new nzxt elite 360 kraken aio and h9 flow ??? Any help

@kaanaslan_tr

5 ай бұрын

I mean in the bios there is a called Asus Multicore Enhacements and in the list there are these options: - Auto - Let's Bios Optimize - Enabled - Remove All Limits - Disabled - Enforce All Limits I choose Disabled (Enforce All Limits) which will run your CPU with Intel's default values. So you'll get up to 6 GHZ speed but you'll notice the temp difference as soon as you make a test with this option. @@BTbr0adbandGamingChannel

@oleksiu8

3 ай бұрын

@@BTbr0adbandGamingChannel Hey! I had the exact same issue with 14900K and ASUS Z790 ProArt motherboard. I switched "ASUS MultiCore Enhancement" in the BIOS under Extreme Tweaker tab from "Auto - Lets BIOS Optimize" to "Disabled - Enforce All Limits". It helped me as the Unreal stopped crashing during Nanite processing. The rest of the motherboard is set to stock/auto only XMP profile 5200MHz is enabled for 4 sticks of ram in total of 128gb. All stress tests the system was passing without any problems, only Unreal was crashing. I lost some performance, but the system is working fine now.

@lolthetrol

3 ай бұрын

​@@oleksiu8So you enable xmp and everything you change is that in bios? I have the same cpu and when i enable xmp without touching anything most of my games crash after couple min or my pc freezes. But when i do a benchmark testing everything normal.

@oleksiu8

3 ай бұрын

@@lolthetrol Yes, that's it. My RAM is certified to run 5600MHz but unfortunately, I was only able to set my XMP PROFILE TO 5200 and pass the memory test without errors. I’m running 4 memory sticks from a single kit simultaneously because I need a big RAM capacity for work. 5600MHz works fine without any issues on two sticks though. I haven’t tested my PC in games but the only issue I had, was Unreal Engine crushing. Other 3D applications seemed to work fine and all CPU stress tests were passed successfully. As I mentioned earlier a simple change of this parameter in BIOS lowered the max frequencies of my CPU but everything is working great now. Have you tried a slower XMP profile? Were you doing only CPU benchmarks or RAM too?

I can't start Intel XTU if undervolt protection is disabled in bios. So I enable undervolt protection to be able to start xtu but then I can't undervolt it. It says that xtu is incompatible with vbs which is turned when undervolt protection is disabled. I'm gonna pull my hair out

@ErrorGameManiac

2 ай бұрын

Check windows defender it also has option to turn it off. I just switched it off on windows and it worked without needing to touch bios

@vanilla6519

Ай бұрын

I have the same problem.

What solved my issue was a contact frame for my 13th gen intel

watchdog timer did not work for me, tried to redownloade it but nothing :/ found some cheesy fix for it yet? ^^

@TheProvokedPrawn

5 ай бұрын

Sadly not. I am trying to get an answer from Asus and Intel. Do you have an Asus board by chance?

@gs_myteN

4 ай бұрын

yes its an asus z790 @@TheProvokedPrawn i went into bios and changed some stuff meanwhile, cap at 125w on both pl1/2 made poor perf, and now at 125/200w i hit 85-97 in path of exile haha, i also cannot undervolt it more than -0.060/70, over that = bluescreen, havent tested many other games yet, but wow/new world and cod works fine, counter strike even hits hot temps 😂

@davidg.1387

4 ай бұрын

This is a long term issue and Asus don't even acknowledge it on their own forum. My guess is it is deliberate from them as XTU basically do what more expensive Asus mobo do but for free.The only way to make it works is to reset the bios to its default and NOT touch anything. So adios XMP and so on. @@TheProvokedPrawn

@Quni2

4 ай бұрын

I'm also waiting for a fix for watchdog. Keep me posted as I will you guys. Can someone tell me if I can go right back to my same oc and undervolt when I do restart my pc or is it best to gradually do it again?

@davidg.1387

4 ай бұрын

@@Quni2 New insights ! I had to reset my bios prior to reinstall my system via a backup. I had saved my bios settings in a profile. After the process, I reloaded my settings (I didn't changed anything in the bios except reloading my settings) and now in XTU Watchdog is listed as installed o_O.

Prawn - please comb that 24 pin cable on this otherwise immaculate build :)

@TheProvokedPrawn

5 ай бұрын

stop fretting. That's not my PC, this is kzread.info/dash/bejne/and-sqiPhZjNlcY.html

I turned off Asus AI overclock and Undervolt protection, everything else default amd xmp enabled. HyperThreading Disabled. Used intels XTU AI Assist on my 14700k. P cores 5.7ghz E cores 4.4ghz Offset -0.065. And Holly cow. That bad boy never goes above 65. Hovers around 60 to 63. Kingdom Come deliverance maxed out Cyberpunk high settings+Medium raytracing+high crowed density. Skyrim(heavily modded) Helldivers.

@dimitrioskaranasios40

15 күн бұрын

What cooler did you use? Getting a 14700k and my case unfortunately doesn't support 360mm rads. Have been looking at Artic Freezer III 280mm. But everywhere I read, everyone seems to say get 360mm as a minimum for 14700k

intel xtu will not install on my pc but i have a 14900k isnt that supported

@TheProvokedPrawn

4 ай бұрын

It should install on any Intel powered PC

@y0dyb14

4 ай бұрын

@@TheProvokedPrawn that’s why I’m confused it pops up in the middle of installation saying platform not supported, windows 10 fully up to day i9-14900k

Undervolting can cause erratic usb behavior.

Picking up the 7800X3D today let’s go !!!

@TheProvokedPrawn

5 ай бұрын

enjoy!

@Upracefan

3 ай бұрын

Thats fine if you want a processor thats roughly equivalent to a 11700k for multitasking, sure it's faster for 1080p games, but who plays at 1080p?

@BLEKINGELAGET

2 ай бұрын

@@Upracefanjust about every competetive player in fps games etc

@Upracefan

2 ай бұрын

@@BLEKINGELAGET lol

Motherboards by default use the wrong settings look at your cpu datacheets!

Sinny-bench 😅

not working on 12th Gen thanks to the intel!

This can cause USB ports to fail.

@TheProvokedPrawn

3 ай бұрын

Is that right

people went from overclocking cpus to underclocking cpus LOL .. Thanks to Intel and their RND

Simple answer is intel dont have technology too create cpu processors with normal temps!! 90c, 100c is normal even with custom 2x radiators 360mm and 2x pumps and full fans speed, nothing work!!👎

yo

@TheProvokedPrawn

5 ай бұрын

hello

HELlohhhh

@TheProvokedPrawn

Ай бұрын

Heeeeellllooo

Contact frames are snake oil. I've tried 3 including the more expensive thermal grizzly. Made absolutely no difference to cores on i7 13700k.

@TheProvokedPrawn

3 ай бұрын

I think they're meant to be a long term solution, as in the idea is over time your CPU will bend with the standard mounting and then won't cool as well, but that's hard to demo in a short term test.

@HarryG88

3 ай бұрын

@@TheProvokedPrawn I've had my CPU in the stock Intel frame for over a year and judging by the consistency on core temps and thermal paste spread, the thermal grizzly CF has made so little difference, after 6 weeks I reinstalled Intel. My CPU was pre binned so maybe that's why.

@MeMyself-gf7fn

2 ай бұрын

There is also inconsistencies on coolers and even contact plates on cpus that cause it to run hotter. They all say results will vary, if you had worse contact it would help more, if it was OK before then it won't work miracles anything. It depends on your set up and they always state it, just because it wasn't that effective for you doesn't mean that is a universal result.

get me a 4090😂