Get Geforce 6200 PCI since it has support from Windows 95 to Windows 8, which is quite a huge range of OS support.

@Jurtaani

4 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I love about Nvidia. Most often when looking at older mid 2000's or early 2010's era business laptops, other hardware is more than ready and powerful enough to run windows 10. But because Intel has dropped the driver support for the motherboard, those computers don't have working display drivers. Meanwhile my cheap hp pavilion dv6732eo laptop with it's defective Nvidia m8400gs gpu, still has working drivers for windows 10. So even though those 8xxx and 9xxx mobile gpu's were basically ticking time bombs, that without reflowing them once per 2 years would stop working. If you have one of those still working, while not actually no longer supported, it still can boot and support it's every feature in latest version of windows 10. Not bad for a laptop that basically teached me, that anything with hp is worth keeping far FAR away from anyone who you care about.

@RWL2012

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jurtaani*taught

@liliwinnt6

4 жыл бұрын

i use 9300GE PCI-E on my downloading PC to save the power, the gpu was GTX980 when i play games on it

@thatcoolgamer9348

4 жыл бұрын

Yess

@fa-alma8222

4 жыл бұрын

Install Windows 7 on EGA Video Card

Windows 7 ❤️

@MrSamadolfo

4 жыл бұрын

😒👍 Hell Yeah

@alexisnik19911

4 жыл бұрын

@M-2 Hydra me too

@MrSamadolfo

4 жыл бұрын

@M-2 Hydra 😎👍 me too

@FlyboyHelosim

4 жыл бұрын

Windows 7 master race! 7️⃣💪

@bokexd3173

3 жыл бұрын

Yey

I knew it was going to work. I have a P3 and 512mb of ram and has Windows 7 on it. It was a lite version because I wasn't sure if it would work, but here you are installing full Windows 7. TL:DR, thanks for the video.

@yeatstan

4 жыл бұрын

Dollar Deal Tech What if he used a usb dvd drive?

@Adrian-re9fh

4 жыл бұрын

What lite version did you install on that pent3 ? I have a system like yours but with 640MB of RAM.

@dollardealtech768

4 жыл бұрын

@@Adrian-re9fh Tiny7

This video proves what I have been saying for years- Windows 7 will run on nearly anything lol. I have an old HP Livestrong laptop from 2004 that's running Windows 7 just fine with 2GB RAM, a 1.8 ghz single core AMD Turion CPU, and a 60GB SSD. Before that I had an old Sony Vaio from around the same time with a 1.6 ghz single core Pentium, 512MB of RAM, and an 80GB hard drive. That thing was far from fast, but it was still totally usable and stable until the motherboard died.

@ananas4872

Жыл бұрын

Is it just me it does every vaio laptop die from motherboard issues. Had one too and it died the same way.

I was messing with similar problems 20 years ago. I think the problem why the CDs didn't boot is the UDF file system that your images are in. UDF was more common for DVDs. It was possible to burn UDF CDs, but that was a rather uncommon thing to do and it probably confused the PC at some point.

8:11 You thought about transferring the Windows 7 iso to the hard drive using a USB via windows vista, then mount the iso with a lightweight software like WinCDEMU, and continue with the installation on the new partition

I have been waiting for this so long!

I adore the idea of having 1 pc go through all the ages. Cool!

@RWL2012

4 жыл бұрын

he should totally do DOS, Win 1, Win 2, Win 3, Win 3.1, WinNT 3.1, WinNT 3.5, WinNT 3.51, Win 95, WinNT 4, Win95 OSR2, Win 98, Win98 SE, Win Me, Win 2000, Win XP, Win Vista, Win 7 and the first dev preview of Win 8!

@redstonegod296

2 жыл бұрын

@@RWL2012 And the betas

@someidiot4311

Жыл бұрын

@@RWL2012 skip the versions that are just named NT version num.

Wohoo this is the video I've been waiting for!

If installing Windows 7 from the GUI setup fails, do this: - Make a WinPE CD image - Boot into that from the USB drive using PLOP boot manager - Use command line utilities to dump an image to the hard drive (diskpart and DISM) Also, try increasing the FSB (front side bus) speed to get the processor speed up to 800Mhz. On your board, this requires setting the appropriate jumpers.

Playing a DVD movie with. $ 5 pc ? & Bluetooth

@HouseCzechowski

4 жыл бұрын

It will work. without any problems.

@laurinneff4304

4 жыл бұрын

Ronald Jankowski Not necessarily. Maybe it's not fast enough to decode DVD

@Pasi123

4 жыл бұрын

If it has hardware decoding then it will play just fine

@Reziac

4 жыл бұрын

I used my P3-500 (768mb RAM) to watch DVDs all the time. It did pretty much suck up all the CPU, but worked fine.

@DamirMaatar

4 жыл бұрын

Playing a 4k HDR HEVC movie

our window 98 machine (very similar to this one) had a dvd drive.

@guilhermekfwst

4 жыл бұрын

that was a big thing at that time

@RWL2012

4 жыл бұрын

@@guilhermekfwst Pentium IIs with DVD-ROM came with an MPEG card as the CPU was too slow for DVD Video playback!

@Eastahtata

4 жыл бұрын

I remember the sample DVD they included with purchase of the machine.. The quality of the videos on it was not that good lol. Good times

@laharl2k

4 жыл бұрын

I have booted off of dvd drives on K5/K6. That PIII shouldnt have any problem.

@uvenarbulis1724

4 жыл бұрын

because you added one

Just a note, it would be worth investing into some re-writable DVDs, being able to format them and put something else on them is extremely useful for computer projects involving ISOs

@MichaelMJD

4 жыл бұрын

I actually purchased some rewritable CDs to use!

I love this series make more my dude :)

Awesome video,Michael!

@MichaelMJD

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Oh, I'm definitely trying this with mine.

Wow lol best vid ever big like man i like experimental tehnology videos! Omg big like and nice!

Again great video 👍

@MichaelMJD

4 жыл бұрын

thank you!

Its never a classic mjd video without him running into problems

@the_ejumper_0804

9 ай бұрын

Fr

Michael great video! I would have used PLOP Boot Manager and been done with it.

You should try to hackintosh it with a old version of macOS.

@Reziac

4 жыл бұрын

Old versions of MacOS require a Motorola CPU. I'm not sure it can be done on a non-Intel CPU or before OSX. (I have 10.8 on a Dell 9010 -- everything worked out of the box except the NIC.) But would be interesting to see the attempt... try one of the early Niresh builds, I think 10.4 is the earliest. If it does run, it'll probably take a good 15 minutes or more to load setup (it took about that long when I tried it on a 2GHz system -- at first I thought it was hung).

@bledlbledlbledl

4 жыл бұрын

@@Reziac I used to run OS8 under Fusion under MS-DOS on a Pentium2...

@foxy6670gaming

4 жыл бұрын

OS X Leopard might work..?

@kathrynradonich3982

4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t work OSX for intel requires sse2

@pankoza

3 жыл бұрын

rhapsody dr2 is a beta of os x 10.0 and has version for x86

MJD I been a subscriber for a long time and I love your $5 windows 95 pc videos, thismorning I found someone threw away 2 PC crt monitors and a AST Advantage 9314 windows 95 pc, I cleaned it out and checked for anything missing and everything was intact and it booted right into windows 95 those times were gold back then, you’ve inspired me, Thankyou. P.S is there anything I need to know when working with this old rig,

@WolfMan8930

2 жыл бұрын

Mjd one more thing, I found that the CD-ROM drive is a exact version of yours but, I cannot get the cd motor to spin, the cd tray pops out but there is no scanning of the disk or spinning of the disk and windows 95 says there is no disk in the tray, what can I do, I don’t want to break it

The storage upgrade video would be fun. These videos have helped so much. What kind of DVD drive did you pick? I'm curious to see what you may make of trying to find bios updates for the thing.

@MichaelMJD

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’ll have another video on Friday of me attempting to upgrade the bios. I just purchased a generic OEM DVD drive. I believe it was pulled out of an old system.

If the motherboard has jumpers you need to set the frontside bus speed required by the cpu. If there are no jumpers have a look through the bios setup to see if there is a toggle value for the speed between 100 and 133 MHz. Hope this helps increase the speed of your win 98 machine.

Very nice! I was able to get windows seven professional and 32 bit installed on a dell Inspiron 9300 from 2005. It has 2 GB of RAM an Intel Pentium M7 80 clocked at 2.26, Bluetooth, and a 250 GB ID E western digital blue. It’s not going to win any speed records but, it runs, and Microsoft security essentials is still downloading definition updates. I did not have nearly the same difficulties with getting that installed. Using the Dell OS recovery tool I downloaded a Windows 7 32 bit professional ISO, mounted it onto a thumb drive, and installed using the one time boot menu. Took an entire weekend to download all of the Windows 7 updates however! Even through a 100 Mbps ethernet connection

Enjoying this series with the $5 PC. Let's get all the goodies to make this the best potato it can be!

You can fix the resolution issue by installing the xp driver. (XDDM) Run the setup in XP compatibility mode. Setup should run fine but if it does fail it should have still copied to the driver folder in windows. After that go to device manager then manually install the driver. I've done this on my Dell dimension 2400. With the Intel 845g graphics. Hope this helps! This works for Vista and windows 7!

Finally you have listened to me:-)

Will Miss you windows 7 ❤️

Good trick to install OS’es without using DVD’s: 1) Divide the intended hard drive into two partitions- a ~5gb partition, and the remaining space in another partition 2) Extract the ISO onto the 5gb partition 3)Boot from the hard drive, should load installation as normal and allow you to install to the other partition If you don’t have an OS, plug the hard drive into another PC and do the same thing. Hope this helps, it should also reduce install time by quite a bit. I’ve had to do this on a few occasions lol 👍

I miss windows 7 and its simplicity whenever I see such videos! I still have my old Athlon x2 3600 PC with 2 GB RAM and 256 GB graphics card; It's hooked to my TV and I use it to play some retro games like NFS MW! good times!

@KoopaKid660

Жыл бұрын

256GB graphics card sounds extreme for just playing old games

windows 7 is perhaps the most stable version of windows, absolutely love it

@alvzcizzler

Жыл бұрын

It's a more stable version of Vista for sure, all though Vista with SP2 and updates is probably just as stable, Windows 7 was a rebrand of Vista for the most part, that said the Windows 7 on the video is a lighter version of Win7

@etz80808yy

Жыл бұрын

@@alvzcizzler Yes, Vista is pretty stable too. I had Vista for a long time before getting a new PC

THANK U MICHAEL FOR SEEING MY COMMENT AND USING MY IDEA😻😻

You would probably run hiren's boot cd/mini xp and use winntsetup tool to install/copy win7 setup files onto hdd and a reboot would start straight to phase 2.

I have a suggestion: Can you try out installing a modern Linux distribution like Debian or Slackware, but instead of installing a DE at first, you do a minimal install and then install a lightweight window manager like Openbox or IceWM. And the some lightweight programs like Dillo and Links2 for web browsers.

The fact it runs faster then my windows 7 laptop is scary

Definitely do a video using a Compact flash for Hard drive, that will be interesting AND useful thanks in advance

Very cool. And how’s the speed

I haven't seen to the end yet but I'm at 7:42. I noticed it showed UDF when you were in windows. UDF is the DVD file system format. CDs use ISO-9660 file systems. It could be that the CD ROM just can't figure out what to do, or the bios does not have a way to understand a UDF boot sector from a CD?

Xubuntu or arch running on xfce desktop would breathe new life into that computer

Since Vista have picked up your WiFi adapter you should even be able to mount iso on your main computer and share contents through the network and run setup directly from SMB share

Pretty awesome

Hey Michael. I know this isn't what you asked for in the video, but you could maybe try out some other Linux distro on this PC, like for example Tiny Core Linux, Linux Lite OR maybe even something that uses the i3 (or similiar) window manager?

Try installing gentoo

Love windows 7

The eternal 98 PC is more capable than I thought it would be

Those vista ui stuff be looking real thicc.

@ Michael MJD You should add a video card to that PC and disable the onboard graphics.

@MichaelMJD

4 жыл бұрын

It’s definitely a possibility!

To get work the animations of windows media center on this pc you must have graphic drivers installed

yaaayyy windows 7

😒👍 Windows 7 FTW, try Tiny 7 it mite run better, its similar it fits on one CD 🙂🐢

@fran5678can

4 жыл бұрын

He saw that

@fran5678can

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrSamadolfo not welcome btw

You could also try windows 7 starter

I Had a Few Of These Running Win2k with Slightly Upgraded Ram and I Think 512 Meg NVidea Cards as CAD Machines When I worked in Nashville

@RWL2012

4 жыл бұрын

lol more VRAM than system RAM...?

Try to make a live Windows 10 or 8 installation using WinToUSB on a flash drive or external hard drive. Then use the Plop boot manager to boot into USB/ external flash drive containg the live Win10/Win8.1/Win8 installation.

I just realized I have this exact PC

You could have used the window 7 upgrade tool inside the .iso even without a usb. Just extra the iso files and then run it as a normal application

Ik I'm late, but could you try running Lubuntu and see how it fairs as an everyday computer.

Now after you install a GPU and ssd try to install geforce now.

@Eray2007

3 жыл бұрын

Yessss

You should use CD-RW disks. GPU recommended: Riva or Voodoo.

@VectraQS

4 жыл бұрын

Can confirm, CD-RW disks are where it's at. Dual-booted Windows 2000 and XP on the same PC using only one CD-RW disk to install both. Though I'm not sure if the old drive in this Gateway supports them.

@RWL2012

4 жыл бұрын

90W PSU...

also there is a graphics card that u need for this!! Zotac geforce gt 610 PCI. It will probably be hard to find and expensive but it will run aero effects and should work in most older pc's with no agp or pci-e!

I was able to install Windows 7 Starter on 256 MB of RAM through Windows 7 PE. I manually extracted the WIM archive from the command prompt. It took a while, but it actually worked! Easily my dumbest computing accomplishment! 😂

I loved how Windows XP guy's head was shaking at 13:41

Try to install ReactOS

It can't work with win8 and win10 because of the missing PAE/NX, who are specific instructions for the processor. You can patch it but it's very difficult because the tools to do this are unfindable

Could you install lubuntu and try doing some modern tasks?

Could you go over how to install USB 3.0 drivers to windows 7/windows 7 installation, please? Thanks!

Would you install a Linux distro? Maybe something like Debian which is 32 bit compatible and has a net installer you can burn on a CD

Strange how Windows 7 super lite didn't work for you. I have it burned to a CD and it boots and installs just as normal

I've had a few pc's where they wouldn't boot from the win7 image i have and the way I worked around it was by booting into the already installed os and running the setup.exe and over-riding the os

Bob staring into my soul as usual

you could use dism to install windows 7+ on partition and use bcdedit like easybcd to set multi boot

Pleaae do a GPU upgrade. Nothing crazy, but I believe with your PCI slot, you could get something new enough for drivers for 7, but I doubt anything new enough for Windows Aero, but that might kill the PC even if it works.

Even an ancient P233 with DOS can use a DVD drive. BIOS may only see it as a CD, but makes no difference. Even the ancient DOS OakCD driver works fine. Did you check jumpers on the new drive? Anyway, pretty cool to see it running Win7 so well. For a GPU, look for a Matrox G200 (comes in PCI and AGP) -- that was the default video card for Gateways of that era that used a VGA card. 8mb cards are common, 16mb less so. Very reliable vidcard and period-correct.

@RWL2012

4 жыл бұрын

...but will it run on the 90W PSU...?

@Reziac

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe, maybe not. With an SSD instead of a spinny, that would take considerable load off the PSU. But the onboard chip might well be a G200, as that was Gateway's default for a long time, either as a card or onboard. (Dell still puts a G200 in their servers; very reliable chip.) In which case, really not much point in a separate GPU. There may be a video RAM setting in the BIOS.

Isn't the ideal Windows for this PC the "Windows Essentials for Legacy PCs", which you made a video a long time ago but in a virtual machine?

@MichaelMJD

4 жыл бұрын

Yes you could say that! I actually did install FLP on this computer in an older video.

Plop bootloader doesn't support writing if I remember correctly. It can only read and load the files and cannot write to the USB Drive

I know I'm a bit late, but you should try to install Windows Thin PC, it's a official stripped down version of Windows 7 made for legacy hardware (like this 5$ PC) and should work much better and faster than the regular version of Windows 7.

We heart Windows 7

Why not run windows 7 usb installer from within vista and do an in place upgrade?

You should try running Minecraft: Education Edition (the minimum supported version of Minecraft Bedrock Edition for Windows) on this

If you only have 512mb you can install home premium. My old laptop had 512 with 7 home premium

Wonder how reliable the optical drive is on this pc.

Why didn't you just copy all the contents of the standard Windows 7 ISO (on the USB drive) to the hard disk and just run setup and select "Custom Install" so as to not upgrade Vista? It worked for me in a similar scenario

14:23 this error also comes up when you make a vm with windows 7 on VMware workstation without changing the settings a little bit

Niceeeeeee

I wonder if the $5 Windows 98 computer can run Windows Server 2003 or Temple OS.

A video I wanted to see all the way from the beginning of the $5 98 PC! Thanks for the theme and keep up the great work! Some notes to the video: 1. You could've tried to use PLOP and try to boot from that CD/DVD... has worked for me before. 2. You can also use PLOP to boot of USB drives if your PC doesn't support USB Boot! 3. Use Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool from Microsoft to burn DVDs and USBs. Also works for CDs! Anyways, great video.

@MichaelMJD

4 жыл бұрын

I mentioned in the video that using Plop to boot this machine off of a USB didn't work for both Vista and 7. It loaded up but it froze when it was loading files. I have been able to do this with Linux images though. I will have to try to use Plop to boot of a DVD now that I have the drive, didn't think of that at the time haha. Thanks for the tip!

You could use Windows 7 Starter instead of 7 Super Lite but still very cool

Try installing windows longhorn on the 5$ windows 98 Pc

@MichaelMJD

4 жыл бұрын

That would be interesting! Since Vista works I assume Longhorn would work too but it would still be pretty neat to see how it runs on this computer! Thanks for the suggestion.

@anthonyalonzo2731

4 жыл бұрын

Your welcome 😁

@computelion6393

4 жыл бұрын

What about Chicago or Whistler?

Install Windows 10 on this

@uwu_peter

4 жыл бұрын

Thats not going to work because the cpu is to weak

@MATAM29

4 жыл бұрын

Use Windows 10 Extreme Lite by Bob Pony, duh

@uwu_peter

4 жыл бұрын

@@MATAM29 Windows 8 and higher requires newer CPU instruction support. Even if you have the worlds smallest and litest Windows 10 it's never going to work.

@RWL2012

4 жыл бұрын

I think the Pentium III doesn't support a new enough version of the SSE instruction, and also lacks the "virtualisation" one Windows 8/10 ask for. Oldest CPUs for 8/10 are Athlon 64, newer Pentium 4s, and (laptop only) some Pentium Ms Whereas Vista/7 only require an ACPI compliant PC, so only require a real Pentium II or some clone Pentium Is (XP doesn't require ACPI, so works on a real Pentium I)

@RWL2012

4 жыл бұрын

Absolute newest OS for this PC is the first dev preview of Windows 8.

You can run the installer without restarting. Just go to sources, and then, the setup.exe. You could have saved alot of time.

Windows 7😢❤

Sounds like the Windows 7 Experience release.. a guy that did under 700mb win7 releases.

1:11 While 1 GB is the officially stated minimum for Windows 7 32 bit, the thing is, the installer doesn't actually check, and will still install on only 512 MB.

In the setup, a few years ago I put 312 ram on a machine and tried to install 7 and it said that the minimum was 512 ram

I'm interested in running Outlook Express on win 7 or win 10...?

That Cpu can address more than 512mb of ram, you need to get a bios update. There will be no GPU for that motherboard that will support Areo. However you can download, Win Transparency, Gadgets, and winflip, from other third parties, that would make that windows 7 behave like it was installed a newer machine, those programs also work in WinXp as well, or for windows Xp you can just download a 'Win7 Transformation pack' (Try Google) from a third party site. I've been using one for years. P.S. I was screaming just install it in windows. lol

Could you also try Windows XP on it? Just an normal version like RTM, SP1, SP2 and SP3.

@MichaelMJD

4 жыл бұрын

I did in another video actually! Is the one called “pushing the 98 PC to its limits”

@aldwinpanny10

4 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelMJD Could you also try Windows 3.1, Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000, Windows NT 3.x on this computer?

Why didn't you use Rufus , It works by inserting the iso image and then putting it in a USB drive so it turns into a bootable USB drive

I have an acer aspire one which comes preinstalled with windows can say the experience is horrible with 1gb of ram so i took out the keyboard and installed 2gb (maximum of ram it can handle lol)

Windows 8 after?

@RWL2012

4 жыл бұрын

I think the Pentium III doesn't support a new enough version of the SSE instruction, and also lacks the "virtualisation" one Windows 8/10 ask for. Oldest CPUs for 8/10 are Athlon 64, newer Pentium 4s, and (laptop only) some Pentium Ms Whereas Vista/7 only require an ACPI compliant PC, so only require a real Pentium II or some clone Pentium Is (XP doesn't require ACPI, so works on a real Pentium I)

@RWL2012

4 жыл бұрын

​@adam moustAgain, Windows 8 requires at least two CPU instructions the Pentium III doesn't have. The first dev preview of 8 will work, but that's it...

@EneaX6

4 жыл бұрын

adam moust what the heck do you mean

@Eray2007

3 жыл бұрын

I wish my cpu had virtualization for a vm