Installing the Chains on the Mini 4WD Trophy Truck Project - Part 4
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Today we are starting a new chain driven 4WD project. In this video we get everything laid out and start working on building the frame. we get the front A-arms built and tacked into place and also decide where the seats are going to go.
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You build really nice things man… there are some other YT’ers out there building quality stuff like GHPC, but the fact that you do everything alone really deserves a lot of respect and proves you are very talented! Keep up the good work Chris!
@fred-san
Жыл бұрын
Donn DIY !!!!!!!!!!
@306GokartsCustomBuilds
Жыл бұрын
💯 man ..do what you enjoy.
@Rattus-Norvegicus
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, I do think Ethan does 99% of the fabrication for GHP. But their style is different, Chris definitely shows more in his videos, which I prefer, which comes across as more mature content. GHP is more of a "Boys Gone Wild" kinda vibe and they HARD focus on marketing.
@petermulders1501
Жыл бұрын
I come here to see engineering and fabrication, totally different audience to GHPC where they're like a bunch of cowboys building cool stuff meant to last one video
@generalshepherd4824
Жыл бұрын
Dont look very reliable .. Above 10 mph.
Design it, build it, break it, do it again, learn. I have been in the tool and die, mold making and machining industry for over 50 years. You’re doing a fine job! Keep up the good work. When you demonstrate what works and what doesn’t work, everyone learns.
I'd love to see you make this thing have doors. It would be so much easier to get in and out of! You can also have the sides much higher for side protection that way.
@dawsongiardino2802
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, would be nice
I used to watch this channel a few years ago when me and my neighborhood friends were building dirtbikes and go karts in high school, crazy that i stumbled upon it now and am addicted to these videos. Absolutely fascinating to see some of your lathe and machine work. Might have to invest in some machines for my shop!
I'd say yes to adding the door just to challenge yourself. Like you said at the end: you have fun building stuff over just adding parts on, and this would be your first time adding doors to a project
@newbornlog2789
Жыл бұрын
Yeah what he said keep the hits rolling
I do like the fact that the drive sprocket is on the same plane as the suspension pivot point. It keeps the chain tension equal throughout the suspension travel. This definitely keeps the chains happy, and in turn it will last much longer.
@CATech1138
Жыл бұрын
No anti squat reaction though
Protip: you would save yourself a ton of time to productize some components and make them into self as series production. You could still make different frames etc but use some ready made components that take time. Just having the same tools set up and then make ten or 20 instead of two saves a lot time.
to get the sprocket close to centered, you could use your tailstock to press against the chuck, roughly centering the bore to the tailstock (around 5 minutes in)
It's good you keep challenging yourself making your parts. It's what has made you where you are today with your skill level.
Gull wing or scissor doors would be cool, also a nice challenge. 👍
I’d say adding doors is definitely a good idea just for ease of access in general, in addition to being safer/easier to get out of in case of a roll over. Also, on the last video I saw a comment about possible running the seats in a slightly more leaned back position in order to be able to drop the heigh of the roof a little bit. Absolutely no idea how practical or comfortable that would be for you but I think dropping the roof at least a little would make it proportionally closer to the look of a trophy truck. The build looks killer so far though!
I never realized how much chains have been used all through out history. They scare me at high speeds haha, hopefully you make a good tunnel cover! Love the builds man
@play4dayzproductions347
Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with motorcycle engines, but you should use manual transmissions, and differentials :D
@tinkerne-round4079
Жыл бұрын
I remember a story about a land speed record holder having one snap and kill him. I think the car was called bluebird? It's been a while since I watched the story.
@tujuprojects
Жыл бұрын
Even the road graders use them in back wheels where the forces are biggest.
@jaded2424
Жыл бұрын
@@tinkerne-round4079 Parry Thomas was kill 1927 it was thought that he was killed by a chain but apparently that wasn't the cause. Here's the link if you are interested. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._G._Parry-Thomas
@rbmcstore2497
Жыл бұрын
@@tinkerne-round4079 If I remember rightly there was one that used a chain drive but it was something like a 24L aeroplane engine, apparently he looked to see what the noise was and it decapitated him. It was on a beach in England. Many years ago (1920s if I remember right), chains have come a very long way since also he is using a bike engine, it's got no where near the torque or power, also it runs much smoother, as long as its maintained it should be fine, I would however question the quality of the Chinese chain (I'd use a DID zvmx-x) also the length of the front chain could be a concern, a very slight bit of wear on all those links would create a huge amount of slack, it would also need guides to stop it slapping. 👍
I been here since the beginning and I gotta say I have questioned your methods but you always figure it. Plus your skills have improved tremendously. The slight interference fit of machined parts is proof compared to the lack of it previously. Nice work. Love seeing the progress
Awesome work! You build it your own way and we will keep watching it! Thank you for the great content and most of all thank you for your hard work! A build like this is a labor of love and you can’t complain about love
He doesn't do car stuff. He does what he does and that's why we watch.
@titityytyler01
Жыл бұрын
I do not know who u are and why
I like that Chris always does challenging projects and increasing his skills. Watch any other channel out there, and you'll see how rare he really is.
Honesty I’ve always wondered why you made nearly everything from scratch. Now that I know, I feel that is pretty darn admirable! Ultimately for me, I love seeing you build, so if it means there is more to build, than that just means more content to watch. Keep up the fantastic work!
Absolutely think you should do the doors idea… as for the chain thing, the first atv’s were exclusively chain driven. There’s many utv’s that use chain drive still, while not a speed daemon by any means, Argos use very complex chain drive set ups. Builds looking good!
things man… there are some other YT’ers out there building quality stuff like GHPC, but the fact that you do everything alone really deserves a lot of respect and proves you are very talented! Keep up the good work Chris
I love the fab that you do. It is amazing to see you make something out of a pile of steel into a really cool off roading machine! I also like it when you take us with you so we can see your creations out in the wild. Thank you for sharing you work with us!
Just keep having fun with your projects and we will enjoy watching. What you do is creative and many times outside of the normal way we tend to think witch is how invention works! Keep up the great work and we will be here to watch and enjoy your crazy mind.
I kind of had a feeling that's how you were going to lock and unlock for the front spool. It works well and all things considered, simple and reliable.
@Addison0526
Жыл бұрын
@@mostlymotorized i don’t think it would pop out of gear at all. If anything, it would shear the pins off before popping out.
It would be sweet to see you do a project history where you pull out and showcase all your builds on the channel, you’ve got so many I’m sure there are people that have forgot about some of your builds, personally my favorite build is your snowmobile go cart because I ride snowmobiles and know a lot about them
@deezematz
Жыл бұрын
That would be a good video to do. I agree
@Ghryst
Жыл бұрын
no one likes re-runs, just go back and watch the videos again, he has them well-organised in playlists on his channel
@jackfulton6696
Жыл бұрын
@@Ghryst why the hate? And I didn’t say re run, I said a show case, and it seems like other people agree with me that they would like to see that, if you don’t like the idea, then don’t watch the video if he makes one like that.
@Ghryst
Жыл бұрын
@@jackfulton6696 hate? i dont fear re-runs, im not rerunphobic, your imaginations are just that and false hate-accusations are despicable, Mr Smollet. of course most people agree with you, because the mode average IQ of the public is well below the statistical median average.
@jackfulton6696
Жыл бұрын
@@Ghryst you didn’t like my idea, and felt the need to reply saying no one wants to see what I suggested, even though other people agree with me, and now your claiming that people who want to see his old builds again have a low IQ, that sounds like hate to me
Do some simple removable doors like on a Jeep Wrangler, I think you'll appreciate them a lot. The build is coming along great
You have some exceptional skills for a young man. With the limited amount of space you have to work in and the tools you have, you create some amazing machines! Thanks again for the awesome video man!
I love watching been watching for a long long time seen the progress overall in design, build and quality keep getting better and love the fact you create from scratch as much as you can 👌
Plenty of people on KZread use bolt on stuff (boring) that’s why people like myself, love to watch your content! That’s because everything is custom to the next level! All created using brain power and experience! Keep it up dude! And we’ll done!
@ratherBweldingChris
Жыл бұрын
Exactly!! Thanks man!
@eriknulty6392
Жыл бұрын
@@ratherBweldingChris i would highly recommend boxing the A-arms and trailing arms with some sheet metal. maybe 1/8th or 1/4 inch. Adds a ton of strength for the weight. looks badass too.
Chains are actually very efficient in power transfer. Noise can be an issue. Your methods a good that is the content I’m looking for. All for the engineering and problem solving. Bolting parts together is for 12 year old kids. 12 year old kids having fun, learning and growing skills. On your dog build I would drill the pin holes through all plates at the same time then on the female side open up the back side for engagement play. This would be to have positive power transfer across all pins at the same time. Making them separately any variance in clearance has to wear in or the pins have to bend until contact is equally distributed across all pins. Not saying the way you did it isn’t right end result would be the same. Awesome work!
You like the challenge, do half doors! Less of a squeeze if you get hurt in the thing getting out!
I love the concept. I really like all things mechanical and there is just something cool about chains
This build (and documentation of the build) is really great. Thanks for taking the time and care to make this series. I also love the multi-purpose grinder/ hammer at 15:30
I've been around fab work my whole life building roll cages for race cars and all that as a kid and still today I couldn't build one and get every angle perfect by myself it takes some serious skill to do. I love you're work it's just amazing.
I just love the simplicity of your videos, and don't get me started on the music you use🤩🤩😍
Good lord that front chain looks terrifying!
great execution! would definitively encase the crash boxes and waterproof the entire trans tunnel. Without that, the selector forks will have issues with foreign objects or rust and wear quickly. With rollers or sliders you definitively can make the center trans tunnel structural and integrate the chain in the structure with two tubes. That loooong chain will be the cooling system itself, dragging the oil back and forth from each end, giving it room to cool without any external feature, besides an atmosphere vent (and a balancing pipe of some sort linking both cases, so oil wont pool on one side only, like a gravity return, where the oil sloshing forward when braking, flows in the link pipe, returning oil to the rear and vice versa). sealing would be fairly easy, two automotive oil seals on each side of the "boxes" and the boxes being very simplified differential cases, with bolted on sides. anyhow, encasing the chain is a big thing with this project. it will reduce friction losses, links will be cooler and the gears wont wear quite as quickly. also allows you to oil quench the gears to harden them without fear of a foreign object breaking them.
I dont think you really need to explain yourself on the "why chain drive" Chris. I think you've already proven that the mid-shaft chain drive system is really practical. Also, the reason I watch your channel is because of your talent at machining & building most from scratch. Also that you're not doing something that every other youtuber is doing. Your creations are truly unique. Dont ever loose that bro.
Well done. More amazing work. I look forward to seeing your new videos as they come out. Don't worry about the sceptics, without them we wouldn't have the daring. I would love to see how you make doors for this. I feel that if you are debating it, it is for a reason and you should go with it. They would have a really secure latching/locking mechanism and probably be 'part' of the frame to give it structure. Perhaps a pros and cons list is in order... Keep up the great work. Look forward to the next one.
You skill on the lathe , tig ..etc is really fun to watch , Im a newbie too lathe now couple years in , and your work on a lathe is helping me learn some new tricks forsure .thanks for sharing your work .
My only concern would be the 4 bearings on 1 shaft, once the frame flexes a little you will either start to warp shaft and break eventually or bearing will go bad
Hey , I just keep watching your videos from France , I am only 24 but you make me want to achieve my objectives . Have a garage at home with all the tools I need to build stuff as well as you do . Allready a mecanic industrial technicien , I just keep learning things with you . Thank’s a lot ❤
Always awesome to see your ingenuity and fearless approach. Thanks.
Thanks for taking the time to explain your logic on using chain drive setups on your builds! I've often wondered why you tend to steer away from shaft drive systems.
Keep up the good work. I love all the custom built builds. Cant wait to see the fully built.
Angle grinder hammer 🔨! Haha love it. Great build!
I like the way you do things! ONe of the reasons for watching your channel is the fact that you build most everything. KEEP DOING WHAT YOU HAVE A PASSION FOR AND PEOPLE WILL COME!! I think doors that also are frame/frame support would be awesome, and a whole lot easier in/out.
What you do, Chris, is amazing! I've been following you for a long time, and I applaud your growth, quality, and consistency! You are truly inspirational, and I encourage you to do exactly what makes you happy in your shop on your channel 😊 God bless you 🙏
Have you ever looked at making your own 1:1 "differential" using the spider gears from a truck or car differential and making the case and other parts? By making a 1:1 unit a driveshaft should spin alot slower making the presision less critical and allowing you to keep the gearing of the transmission simple. And you would be able to make it much smaller then a full diff from a truck or car.
This is an amazing series!! Keep it up!!
Your engineering skills are up there with the best of the bunch, I love the "take my own road" approach, being a woodworking guy I absolutely get that and its fun. One thing I cringed about is where you removed the metal bars form the CNC and then hitting it with the cordless grinder - respect the tools man and they will in turn respect you much more. Keep up the work and love to see the end results.
Don’t listen to the negative commenters. Just keep doing your thing. As long as you are getting them built and having fun doing it, then u are killing it.
Chris, project is coming along great. For the center chain, the idler/tensioner should be on the top side, because the pull load is on the bottom side. Further, for chain guides, I’d look at making them out of UHMW, a type of plastic that can easily be worked, but should resist wear from the chain passing over it. Last, you didn’t mention the sprocket ratios. I’m hoping your 17T to front sprocket matches your rear ratio. Keep up the great work.
@jlucasound
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Yes, yes and yes!! 😀
@gregholloway2656
Жыл бұрын
@@jlucasound thanks man. I seem to remember a company I worked for, 35 years ago, using UHMW for this application. I’ve used UHMW for other things recently, and it seems suitable. I don’t think Chris’ creations see enough miles to really wear something like this out anyway.
You can make a plate to go on the router base, or even an enclosure to mount the router in, to make more flat area to put your work on, making the process easier and more accurate. Like the use of the cordless grinderhammer by the way.
@jlucasound
Жыл бұрын
I see! Then it would be anchored by the body of the router, so it will be more secure. Make an enclosure with a block of two by four screwed to the bottom. That way you can still clamp it in the vice and stick it on a shelf when you are not using it. 😃
Thank You for saying why your going with Chain in this build! Ok good!! 👍🏻👍🏻💯
I enjoy watching u turn things on your Lathe you make it look so easy
Thanks for filming Chris. 👍😁
Use a stainless mesh on the slats to stop the dross grabbing. And spray the mesh with some spray grease or anything to stop it sticking 🤩
I like the door idea. In my head, I’d say a drop down door. Opposite of gull wing. Love you style of having fun and doing what you want. Don’t listen to S talkers!
Nicely done. I enjoy watching and learning about how you choose to build your projects.
I would love to see a mini crawler (not a rock bouncer), could use driveshafts and a transfer case to keep the engine up front. I think it would be amazing! Also solid front and rear axles with coilovers.
Thasnk you for explaining why you prefer to work with chain drive systems over shaft driven systems (though I had motorbike shafts in my head rather than car driveshafts). Your explaination makes perfect sense to me (I happen to prefer making things over buying them too!)
You are the BEST, Thank you, for your's teaching us. God bless you.
I love the way you build your stuff because that's what makes you different from everyone else and to me your builds are fantastic and your channel is very sweet. Keep up the great work there's alot of us that love to see how you're going to be putting the next parts together. God Bless you and your family. 🙏🙏💯💪👍👍👌
This is my favorite sunday channel.
I’m following you quite a long time from you don’t have any perfect and complete tools/equipments with normal type of camera until now i see the progress you made impressed me. Your video not boring to watch clear explanations and we learn together.. keep it up man.. you are unique.. Btw I’m from Malaysia ❤
Just cannot wait to see how this rear end works!! Great work!
Man its going be awesome, and as long as your having fun, with what you are doing with motorcycle engine. its amazing to see how far you came from when you first started.
You are one hell of a machinist mate. It's great to see you taking a piece of rusty stock and turn it into a precision component.
Great job look forward to the completion
A thought for the plasma cutter set up, put a mesh or "chicken wire" style shelf 6 inches below the cutting surface to catch the pieces as they fall. you won't have to bend over as much to grab them and the over-spray of the cutter can pass through to the bottom
that 4x4 chain drive reminds me of a Terra Jet, but with suspension. Great work!
Turning out great!! Can’t wait to see the finished project!!! Building a cross kart with a 600cc two stoke!!
You're doing almost exactly what i wanted to build except the rear axles. I agree on chain and motorcycle engine. Roll cage and all that.
Just add stubby half or third height doors to ease access. This leaves some solid side frame for strength. Keep up the great work!
Very cool. Loved watching you machine those parts from stock material. 👍
Bloody awesome, you keep doing what you love to build , I really enjoy your craftsmanship 👍👍
27:30 You can put each chain inside a pvc pipe, than put the pvc pipes inside of an oval exhaust pipe to run the length between the sprockets. The pvc will be your sliders and prevent the chains from hitting or slapping, with the oval pipe being your chain guard and mount. You can make a tensioner at the front and rear with a pair of sprockets that ride the top and bottom of the chain that are adjusted together to guide the chains into and out of the pipe.
@liamfoley4452
Жыл бұрын
Sounds good in theory but PCV when exposed to the elements for extended periods of time will become extremely brittle and it will more or less explode once it gets to cold or ages in the elements. He’d be better off getting some blocks of plastic used for dirt bike/four wheeler chain sliders and make his own where necessary
Yo! Stumbled across your feed today! Needless to say after a few hours watching....Damn Brother! You are killing it! Now..... I gotta watch all your others!
Im so exited for this series!
I love how your machining skills improved over the years, you made some cool projects and I’m sure more are to come
Good job Chris, yes do doors. Make the doors raise up to open like a Tesla but also not to complicated and part of the cage structure. Bad Ass engineering. 😊👍🏻
Dude that’s awesome! Can’t wait to see it run
Awesome work as always, thanks for your content! Build the doors!
I hear you and applaud you sticking to what you enjoy! If you ever want to depart from motorcycle and snow machine engines, please consider small diesels like a Perkins 3-cyl or other small diesel.
It's going to be like driving around with the front brakes on in 2wd
Loving what you're doing man ,don't listen to people asking why you don't do it this way or that. Do it the way you please and have the most fun with. 🤟🏽
I love your creativity so keep doing what your doing.
It's gonna be HEAVY!!
I agree with you on using chains, I had a push bike with a speedo that I bought for it, and clocked the speedo as in distance wise, plus two years before fitting the speedo, and absolutely no chain issues, ok so wasn't as abusive as offroading, but as long as the chain isn't able to pick up stones and chippings to get caught in the cogs, then chains are close to as reliable as driveshafts, as long as running true and straight, and annual oiling at bear minimum.
Doors for sure. Have fun with it and challenge yourself! Love the work dude
Nice project!! Also, nice DeWalt hammer!
Y’all need sawtooth shaped slats for your plasma table might help. Cool build so far
@nutwiss
Жыл бұрын
Yup - that's exactly the problem. I'd be surprised if the arc droid doesn't come with CNC templates for these to cut itself.
You’re an inspiration! Thank you and keep the great work!
In joy your project got to make it fun to make and if something breaks you can make it better then before keep up the good work 😎👍
Keep doing the things you do the way you do! It's the reason why I'm subscribed!
You make some really amazing stuff, yes too the doors and maybe some removable Perspex windows ? So you can use it all year round, so you can remove doors and windows in the hot weather and put them back on for winter 🥶 so you don’t freeze to death and stay somewhat dry and warm? On the plus side of using the motorcycle engines you can also use the wiring harness to run lights a dashboard, then you got power to weight ratio and the ability to change the gearing/sprockets are all cheaper than it would be to change gear ratios in car gearing. Anyway you know all this stuff already….keep the awesome builds coming…..maybe get it street legal so you can really get the use of all your hard work 👍 you are a true craftsman 👏👏👏
That's a lot of chains spinning at high RPM, but I'm loving the project. Well done.
Since you have the arcdroid, use it to cut the parts for its own table! Make a "sawtooth" design for the table so the part only sits on tiny peaks in the lateral bars. It's what the pro tables come with. I actually found the teeth were too short and the slab was still sticking so I made some hugely long teeth for the plate to rest on
You are definitely up there with other top builders on KZread. Looking good Chris.
No, don’t change it ☺️👍🏽 you’re doing a good job. I love what you do. I do similar but with no equipment lol.😅👍🏽
This episode was cooler yet, you have done some awesome machining,