Affiliate links Here’s links to the package I have on the wall including the conduit box. Signature solars link signaturesolar.com/eg4-wallmount-indoor-battery-280ah-51-2v-eg4-6000xp-off-grid-inverter-bundle-8000w-pv-input-6000w-output-all-in-one-solar-inverter-bndl-e0009/?ref=mpmddlkx6M9tPo Current connected’s link www.currentconnected.com/product/eg4-budget-battery-backup-kit-6000xp-inverter-wallmount-battery-kit/?ref=xhJJBPDS

Tip from a person who works in a UL 508a industrial control panel shop: for very fine strand wire, use a ferule/ring lug 1 size larger than your wire size. 2/0 fine strand = 3/0 ring lug.

One of the best videos with a diagram making even more clear for people.

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

Thank you. Although I can’t take credit for the diagram. Someone from the DIY solar forum was kind enough to send it to me for the video.

@tonyste12

Ай бұрын

@@GavinStoneDIY respect for giving dues where is do

@robthebuilder4004

22 сағат бұрын

Awesome video and Very well explain one question is how many solar panels do you have and what size are they?

Great vid! Install a bypass. If the inverter fails your critical loads will be without power!

Gavin, great job. I will be ordering this bundle soon. I plan on feeding the main panel through a breaker with a generator interlock. I will feed the grid in from above the 200 amp main breaker. There is another video out there doing that config. I will have the new ChargeVerter to charge the battery from my existing 120v generator. This config should cover all my bases. Again, great job with your videos!

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

This would be a more rare wiring setup. But yeah I’ve seen it done. Essentially making your main panel a critical loads panel. I would have to see the wiring schematic on it again. And this will work as long as your inverter/inverters can supply all your loads. Let me know how the install goes. I always like to hear from people

Using 3 in parallel to power a country store "livn Green" we use 180kwh daily 😀 so this is huge for us. Made 96kw in one day and its early April 👍.

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

Wow that is awesome!

But I don’t need any help….the colors don’t match! 😂😂😂 Great job! Lots of helpful info!

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

Haha. I left them that way just for people like yourself. There’s hope. Recovery is possible. 😉

@AdamDeLay07

Ай бұрын

@@GavinStoneDIY 🤣

Can you please make a similar video that goes over the "lightning and surge arrestors" that are now included in most signature solar off-grid bundles? Also I really love how clearly you explained things in this video, especially running the grounding wires. I've watched plenty of others videos doing similar setups but I would always come away confused how the grounding should look across the entire system.

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

Really appreciate that. I’ll try to make another surge protection video at some point. I did one on EMP shields. But I do like the midnight solar ones also. And they are definitely good to have.

Great you answered some great questions. Thank You 🤓

@GavinStoneDIY

3 күн бұрын

Glad to help!

Just installed two 6000s. Really enjoy ypur videos.

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

That’s awesome!

Talk to me a little more about that OCD treatment! ;) Nice video and something I hope will be useful in the near future.

Best explanation yet!

@GavinStoneDIY

27 күн бұрын

Really appreciate that. Hope it helps.

Thanks for another great video 🙏

Enjoyed the video. I have my 6000xp in the garage not installed just yet and my battery and conduit box arrived today so I will have this exact same setup. I currently have a manual transfer switch for some of my critical loads and will run load out to it. May need to install a second transfer switch to move more circuits over. I thought about just running load out to a breaker in main panel but know it won’t run my dryer and stove so would be a hassle to shut everything down when I wanted to use those particular circuits. Never heard of anyone using two transfer switches but should be okay to do.

Thank you for clarifying the 480vdc per mppt, even with an email to eg4 and Signaturesolar the wording of the response was a little confusing, I was 99% certain but you removed that last bit of doubt. Yes I am I do know temp. will play a part in the actual voltage transmitted. I will only be running about 320vd per string but with 2 strings, I worried I would exceed the capacity.

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

Yeah I think most the people in the actual tech field assume we can understand the lingo.😁 that’s why I try to use words like “per” and “independent”. I think it’s easier to understand

That’s exactly how I’m doing. My offgrade cabin is how you showed it. I just wanna know if I can use a 110 generator to charge the batteries if the solar’s not working or not sunny enough

Really wonderful video

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching.

Great video

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

Thank you. I really appreciate that

Thank you

Good video

Great vid as always…looking forward to more on the NHX-10K. Maybe some grid interaction features like zero export. Will the NHX be able to supply main panel without feeding anything to the grid with help from the CT’s.

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

Thanks. Yeah I don’t have that unit on my wall anymore. But I know other KZreadrs will be making content on them soon. You’d need a monitoring system to see if there’s any backfeed when it’s on self consumption mode. I didn’t test that aspect.

either painted or get treatment for your ocd. made my day🤣🤣🤣🤣

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

There’s help out there. 😁

Thanks for the video. I recently tried ferrules on 6awg/10awg wire and noticed they came loose on the dc breaker. Seemed fine while tightening, but would slip out during tug test. The plastic housing prevented the wire from being inserted fully into the breaker. Just something to watch out for. Why would eg4 choose chnt brand, are they even ul listed?

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

That’s a fairly popular brand. Most rack batteries on the market use those also.

Great video!! Hope to get same inverter/battery combo soon. Do you think/have experience of this setup running whole house to include furnace/heat pump(s)/hot water heater/well pump? Thanks!

@GavinStoneDIY

20 күн бұрын

I have the 18kpv so that’s 2 of these units worth of output. And I run my whole house on it. So yes, you can feasibly do that with 2 units. But you still have to be mindful of your loads.

@InVinoVeritas.

20 күн бұрын

@@GavinStoneDIY Getting 1 6000 ($ reasons) so I guess I can't run whole house systems but should be able to run critical loads, hopefully.

@GavinStoneDIY

20 күн бұрын

@@InVinoVeritas. exactly. 1 unit can run your critical loads. Well,fridges and freezers,microwave, lights. You’d be surprised how much 6,000 watts will run. And it’s expandable as money allows. I’m installing this same system for my brother soon. And he may add another in the future when he has more money. But for the moment this is basically a backup generator. Except gas generators you want them running the least amount possible. And these units you always want them running and saving you money.

Great video. I have some questions. If I have 2 (or more) 6000xp in parallel, do I need a separate breaker in the main panel to supply grid power to each 6000xp? If I have 2 of the 6000xp inverters in parallel can I connect my 240v 30a pure sine wave inverter generator to just one of the 6000xps? Thanks for taking the time to encourage and share knowledge with some solar newbies!

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

So I prefer separate breakers. But you can also combine inputs and outputs of both inverters. It just takes more work. I like to have a dedicated disconnect to each inverter. With the generator feed you would need to supply power to both inverters. So you’d need to split the output of the generator. Or turn off one inverter when using generator. It’s honestly easier to use the chargeveter in these cases.

@Michelle-pg3hz

Ай бұрын

@@GavinStoneDIY Thanks, that helps us plan things out

Good call on metal conduit for the pv wires. Do you happen to know if using two pv feeds, do they have to be identical watts and amperage, or can they be different?

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

They are independent inputs. So they can be different wattage without any issues.

@booterone1

Ай бұрын

@@GavinStoneDIY I am a new subscriber and thanks for the quick reply. I will be watching future videos on the 6000XP

I noticed in this video around 23:10 you didn't show or speak about the neutrals associated with each circuit being moved. Although the diagram 4:28 shows the neutral being tied together via the 6000 XP. I understand that the neutrals can stays in the main panel but you should make mention of them being left there and why that is so.

@GavinStoneDIY

27 күн бұрын

The neutral does get transferred over. But it gets transferred within the grid input. So when you add power from the grid panel to your XP for bypass power, it will also be supplying the neutral and ground. So in other words, it’s one large neutral and ground coming from the grid instead of adding them from each individual circuit.

I'm just about ready to start hooking up wires, they gave me two battery cables with the battery, I'm wondering if it makes sense to use them both when connecting to the inverter?

@GavinStoneDIY

14 күн бұрын

They send two sets because the battery can be used with multiple inverter types. The inverter only needs one set of battery cables. The maximum dc amperage the inverter will pull or push is less than 120 amps. One set of those wires can carry more than 250 amps.

Gavin great video so the battery cables and the communication cable don't come in the SKU BNDL-E0009-1 bundle? thanks

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

Yes. Those come with the pro batteries themselves anytime you order them. The wiring is included in the bundle.

@justanotherdillhole7824

Ай бұрын

@@GavinStoneDIY thank you

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

@@justanotherdillhole7824 sure thing. You’d need the 2/0 lugs though like i installed on the cables. I should probably add a link to those.

@justanotherdillhole7824

Ай бұрын

@@GavinStoneDIY sounds good

Great explanation Gavin! What PV did you use for this? (How many panels and what size?)

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

Thanks. I have 2,700 watts of panels hooked to it. 6-450 watt panels. So it could definitely have a lot more PV. I’m just using the rest for my solar for the 18kpv.

I’m in California and have been thinking of powering my pool equipment with solar energy & batteries. From my main 200A panel, the pool equipment sub-panel is on 2X30A. So the setup you show here should be able to handle it and more? I have a second sub-panel with a 2X70A breaker at the main panel. It is for all the house lights with one fridge and freezer in the garage. Do I need a separate EG4 6000XP for the second sub-panel? The EG4 6000XP can only handle 50A so I don’t know if it can handle the second sub-panel (2X70A). Do I need to buy the EG4 18kpv? Thank you for any input.

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

So the actual output of the 6000 xp is 25 amps. 2 of them would output 50 amps. The inverter can bypass 50 amps though. Which is why I used that breaker size. I would probably need drawing or diagram of your setup to determine what you’d need. But keep in mind the breakers that supply a panel don’t determine its actual usage. They just protect the wire that’s attached to the breaker. So your sub panel may not use anywhere near 70 amps. Your pool equipment would likely run off one 6000xp, but you have to look at the pump to see what it uses as far as amperage.

@GioArt-TV

Ай бұрын

@@GavinStoneDIYThank you for your time. I looked at the specs on the mfg. and it said “2300W, 208-230VAC, 20AMP”. I will get a meter to get more info. on the load. Thank you again.

I have 3 6000xp and 3 powerpro coming in the couple days. How would you parallel the batteries and the inverters on the DC side

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

I would add one power pro per inverter.

@gavinstonediy - did it come w/ the 5/18 lugs? thanks!

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

No you’d have to buy those separately. I left a link below in the description to the ones I used.

Wow I brought over all my grounds and Neutrals when I installed my sub panel should they have stayed in the main panel? My inverter was shipped WITHOUT the grounding screw so it is not bonded at the inverter.

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

Which inverter are you using? The 6000 XP has a bonding option in the menu. But typically you’d bond the sub panel yourself if you’re off grid. As far as the grounds and neutrals are concerned. It depends on the inverter. If you want to carry them over to the sub panel you can do that. But I’d recommend just bringing a large gauge neutral and ground over. It’s easier than feeding individual smaller gauge wires.

@ennis437

Ай бұрын

I have the sg6548 from sungold power they told me mine shipped without the ground neutral bond screw. I’m not off grid I just basically did what you did in the video but I moved all my circuits except my stove. The grid is basically my back up . Man, I wish I would’ve known all I needed to do to be compliant was to move the hot wires I may go back in revisited because it would be so much cleaner and just set it up how you’ve got it thanks for the video that was incredibly helpful.

Hello Gavin, my wife and I were rewatching your video again and we just noticed the part about metal conduit for pv. I had heard it before, but this time it actually registered. So my question is, do I need metal conduit for pv lines just inside the house or do I need to dig up all of the grey pipe I just buried, buy metal and re-bury or actually bury the correct stuff? My wife and I very much appreciate your channel and your willingness to help out those not as knowledgeable as yourself. Thank you.

@GavinStoneDIY

5 күн бұрын

The code for metal conduit is just for indoors. You did the right thing using electrical conduit in the ditch.

@jw3515

5 күн бұрын

Thank you for your quick reply. Have a wonderful day.

Wish the amphenol was a straight connector instead of 90 degree to the inverter, I just don’t like all the bending! Thanks for the videos!

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

I think all those connectors are 90’s. Yeah I don’t like bending wire around too much. But these are super flexible. So it’s pretty easy.

Hello, thanks for the video, I wonder if you can recommend me a wire for the load 1 and 2 I mean gage , I don’t know anything about wiring and I don’t know which one to pick , thank you, affiliate links would be ok , thank you

@GavinStoneDIY

11 күн бұрын

It depends on how much amperage you want for your bypass. But the easiest thing to do is get a 40 amp double pole breaker for your input and output wiring. A big box store like Lowe’s or Home Depot will be cheaper than any affiliate links I would add on the wiring. And you’ll ask for 8 awg thhn wire. 1-red 1-black 1-white 1-green.

Thanks for the detailed walk through but I lost you at the Grid source. I needed to see how you are tied or wired to Grid. Can you show that connection on next follow-up vid .😅

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

Yeah the video was just getting so long I had to make cuts. It would be a double pole 40 or 50 amp breaker from the grid to the inverter. And the same 8 awg wire.

I am getting ready to wire up my sub panel and have a couple of qestions. AC Input from grid: I have L1 and L2 on a 40 amp 2 pole breaker going from my main breaker panel to the EG4 6000 Grid breaker. I have the ground and neutral going from the main panel to the respective buss bars in the inverter. They are bonded in the main panel. AC Output from inverter: For the AC output I have L1 and L2 going from the Load breaker in the inverter to a 40 amp 2 pole breaker in the sub panel. I have the ground and neutral going from their respective buss bars in the inverter to the sub panel ground and neutral buss bars. Does this sound correct? Also, are the 40 amp 2 pole breakers enough for this setup. I have 6 EG4LL 48 volt batteries hooked to the inverter. Thanks!

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

That sounds correct yes. You can also use 50 amp breakers since the maximum pass through amperage is actually 50 amps. But honestly most people won’t utilize that aspect. The 40 amp breakers will work great. Sounds like you’ve got it covered. Let me know how it goes.

@keithroach8493

Ай бұрын

@@GavinStoneDIY Thanks Gavin. I'll let you know. Love your channel, great information.

@keithroach8493

Ай бұрын

@@GavinStoneDIY Got everything hooked up and it is working better than expected. Thanks again.

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

@@keithroach8493 that’s great! How much solar do you have so far?

@keithroach8493

Ай бұрын

@@GavinStoneDIY Right now I have 6kw of ground mounted panels. I've only had the system running for about a month. I'm running everything except the 2 air conditioners and the dryer. Next project is a transfer switch so I can manually switch the grid to the sub panel incase of an inverter failure.

Can you clarify where the grid cable you ran to the inverter came from? I see some prople tap the2 lines from y the grid.

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

The grid supply would come from the main panel. Either a 40 or 50 amp double pole breaker. And 8 awg thhn wire. 2 hots, a neutral and a ground.

@julianjimenez4930

Ай бұрын

Thank you

What (trade size) knockouts are available on the sides of the battery box?

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

I believe they have 3/4-1-1.5-2” sized knockouts.

I heard that you said something like since it was a 240 V you need a 240 V generator to power it versus grid my question is can you use a 115 generator to power the 6000 instead of grid it’s for a cabin off grid Or do I have to buy a new generator that runs 240 if that’s the case then I need to get the 3000 because I already have 110 generators

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

You cannot use a 120v generator into the generator port no. But you can use the chargeveter at 120v. That’s honestly the best option anyway. The chargeveter can take care of your charging without needing to involve the inverter at all.

@user-om7tz8ll5r

Ай бұрын

@@GavinStoneDIY okay thanks

Question for my code needs, if my OG power system is in a dedicated structure and connected to my transfer switch like a portable generator will it still fall under governmental regulations?

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

I’m not totally positive. But I believe if it’s connected to a transfer switch or a lockout breaker you should be good to go. You do have to consider the PV though. If that’s on top of your house that would need inspections.

@Tiersmoke92555

Ай бұрын

@@GavinStoneDIY ground mount for the win. 😁

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

@@Tiersmoke92555 exactly!

If your critical load panel is powered from the grid. And the grid is down, does the battery automatically take over?

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

Yes that’s how it would work. And you have a third option of using a generator as well.

If 2 eg4 6000xp were paralleled, would you use 1 50 amp breaker from each inverter?

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

Yep. You would just add a breaker below what’s there. And L1 would be the top and L2 the bottom again.

@jw3515

Ай бұрын

Thank you. Have a great day.

Where is the six gauge cable that you bring to the breaker in the inverter connected to the grid? Can you show the other end of that cable?

@GavinStoneDIY

12 күн бұрын

I realized afterward that I left that out. That comes from the grid panel. A double pole 40 or 50 amp breaker as well.

How long will the battery run a 220 v ac unit 8000btu at night?

@GavinStoneDIY

8 күн бұрын

It’s hard to say. That would depend on how much amperage the ac unit pulls, and how often it cycles.

Thank you for sharing your diagram. From the spec sheet it seems that the inverter accepts a maximum of 480 VDC input, not per MPPT.

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

The spec sheet is correct. It just doesn’t word it as “per”. The inputs are independent. So the voltage isn’t shared between the two.

hey brother what size were those knockouts?

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

On the XP? Starting from the left, 3/4- 1.5- 3x1”- 1.5. If I’m remembering correctly.

How to gauge what size all in one inverter I need?

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

Add up all your typical daily loads. Then go from there. A lot of people have some gas appliances. So they don’t need as much inverter to handle their daily usage.

@russellkamp8923

Ай бұрын

Thank you

Do you do plumbing too?

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

😐

Can i run this inverter with a single EG4 5KW battery?

@GavinStoneDIY

2 күн бұрын

It could technically run yes. But you wouldn’t get full capacity out of the inverter with just a 100ah battery. Plus it would be pulling pretty hard on the battery. That’s why it’s recommended to have at least 200ah worth of battery for this inverter.

@oneshot_onekill4618

2 күн бұрын

@@GavinStoneDIY Thank you i appreciate the response.

Great video with just enough detail. Except for one thing. You do not show where the conduit from your main panel runs into your critical loads panel, nor how the wires are hooked up inside. Would be good to see. Thanks.

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

So the conduit would run from your main panel to the critical loads. Then the stranded wire I mentioned would hook to a corresponding breaker the same way it was in the main panel. Which is why it’s preferable to have a breaker panel with the same brand name. You can use the same breaker in the critical loads panel. So the 20 amp I removed from the main would just be swapped over to the critical loads panel and the stranded wire would hook to that. You’ve basically just lengthened the wire for your breakers is all.

"Go get treatment for your OCD." 😂😂😂😂

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

😁

I'm no electrician, and don't understand why you only run one "hot" Black wire from the grid panel to the circuit breaker you are moving to your critical load panel. Why aren't you also moving the ground, red, and neutral?.

@GavinStoneDIY

Ай бұрын

The ground and neutral are supplied by the grid input to the inverter. The red or L2 can also be moved if you have a 240v load. So for instance, your electric hot water heater would usually be a double pole 30 amp breaker, so you’d move the black and red for that circuit. Single pole breakers like lights m, would just need the one black wire moved per circuit.