EG4 6000xp off grid inverter, install and initial review

In this video I take a first look at the new eg4 6000xp. I install the inverter and I give my initial thoughts.
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  • @GavinStoneDIY
    @GavinStoneDIY7 ай бұрын

    Affiliate link to the inverter:signaturesolar.com/eg4-6000xp-off-grid-inverter-split-phase/?gclid=CjwKCAiA6byqBhAWEiwAnGCA4BWdlINZL6n1Tn8IV_SJl2hSLS4dpiwKFPOK0L8VDzJKsAO1v6m58xoCqcAQAvD_BwE&hsa_acc=6010647758&hsa_ad=&hsa_cam=17631500090&hsa_grp=&hsa_kw=&hsa_mt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=x&hsa_tgt=&hsa_ver=3&ref=mpmddlkx6M9tPo&setCurrencyId=1&sku=1511090&PMax%3A%20Shopping_Smart_Brands&

  • @AdamDeLay07
    @AdamDeLay077 ай бұрын

    Looks like a pretty nice unit. Like you said, great for someone off-grid who doesn’t need all the hybrid features.

  • @lunatik9696
    @lunatik96966 ай бұрын

    The major factor when comparing 2-6000XP vs 1-18K is do you want to sell/ trade power to the grid. Grid tie or off grid only, 2-6000XP is less than 1/2 as costly with similar capability. I would highly recommend 1 full rack (6) of the LiFePower batteries or 2 of the new Power Pro. Another video suggested using the 6000XP as a generator input to the 18K. Interesting possibilities.

  • @rongray4118

    @rongray4118

    4 ай бұрын

    I am debating installation of 2 of these for our off grid/48v system that we need to power a 50 Amp RV.

  • @stevenfrazier8939
    @stevenfrazier89397 ай бұрын

    Great job, looking forward to more.

  • @Roll2Videos
    @Roll2Videos7 ай бұрын

    Awesome cost a cost-effective way if someone who doesn't need grid-interactive features. Some very impressive specifications. Love that the breakers are built in. All around good looking unit. Thanks Gavin 👍👍👍👍

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks! It has some neat options on the inverter menu also. Like I mentioned, you can control the fan speed. But there’s even an option to combine both mppts into one. Really interesting.

  • @Roll2Videos

    @Roll2Videos

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY Lowing the fan speed is going to reduce the Input or output?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Roll2Videos good question. I have no clue. At least not yet, I just briefly glanced at the option in the manual. This will give me something to dig into in the next week.

  • @bobcole3852
    @bobcole38527 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your opinion on this, expecting mine to be delivered soon. Glad you did the well pump, my main concern

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah so far so good on my testing. I’ll hopefully have another video out on it next week. Really nice inverter. Let me know how the install goes.

  • @JFKEOD
    @JFKEOD7 ай бұрын

    Great video! Can’t wait for more content.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching! It’s been fun so far.

  • @hendersonsobers396
    @hendersonsobers3967 ай бұрын

    Really awesome review as usual Gavin.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much. How are things working with your unit?

  • @hendersonsobers396

    @hendersonsobers396

    7 ай бұрын

    18K PV has been working without any issues. Been incredibly stable. These new units seems to be really good. Looking forward to your additional reviews. Hope you are doing well.

  • @easttexascowboy257
    @easttexascowboy2577 ай бұрын

    Looking forward to seeing more on this unit. Good video. I'm hoping to get a water well drilled sometime in the next year or two and I'm going to want it on solar and battery. It sounds like this might be the answer. At this price point I could justify putting a spare on the shelf. It would probably be in an well house or some kind of out building, so I'll have to look at the specs for temps. Maybe the EG4 Power Pro for battery since it's rated for outdoor use. Now all you need to do is get them to send you a second one so you can test it in parallel!

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah they need to send me another! Call them and put in a good word for me. 😉

  • @smcnish1droid
    @smcnish1droid5 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the great video! The short bit on how this basically gets installed answered a lot of my questions. I am new at this and I am looking at getting a system to use as a back up for my house if the grid goes down. I am trying to decide between a 18Kpv or two of these units, so a comparison would be great. Thank you again!

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Yeah I should do something on that. The shortest answer is ,both are great. But if you want any type of grid interactive features, then the 18kpv would be the best choice. Otherwise the xp’s can still utilize the grid as backup and do a great job. But there is a lot of other little stuff to consider to. I just need to get some time to do video on it.

  • @bkodra
    @bkodra7 ай бұрын

    Good video! I was wondering if you were going to review this. Looks pretty cool!

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Yeah I’ve got a feeling this is going to be an extremely popular off grid choice for people.

  • @bkodra

    @bkodra

    7 ай бұрын

    I'm sure of that. I'm very pleased with the 18Kpv I purchased and installed after speaking with you.@@GavinStoneDIY

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    @@bkodra that’s awesome! I love mine. I think I have over 7 megawatts of PV production so far on my 18kpv. It’s just a work horse.

  • @terrahillfarm
    @terrahillfarm7 ай бұрын

    I agree, at this price point this is a great value. 6000 watts split phase is perfect for a small home or cabin but pushing it for a 2000 SF home in the south, with central HVAC. Would prefer a little more headroom than 3k per phase. I’m still hoping to see a hybrid 10k split phase come out in the $2500 range maybe similar to the 10k SRNE. ☀️⚡️💡👍

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    6kw definitely wouldn’t run a home that size. We have done well with the 12kw the 18kpv provides. It runs both our hvac units and all our other appliances. We still have to pay attention to loads of course. So I would say the best bet would be to get 2 of the 6000xp’s. You’d still be around $2,800, and in the event there’s an issue and one inverter goes down, you’d still have a back up. Hybrid units typically are pricier like the 18kpv. You have lots of different grid options with those.

  • @JimLarsen108

    @JimLarsen108

    7 ай бұрын

    You can parallel these to meet your needs and having multiple units gives you redundancy if one unit goes down. That's my plan. You could buy 4 of these for the price of an 18k pv or 5 for the price of a solark 15k. Four of these gives you much more power than either of those other inverters; 32k solar input with 8 mppt's and 12k per phase (100amp per phase) AC output.

  • @thinde88
    @thinde887 ай бұрын

    Really interested in seeing these paralleled. I’m fully off grid and currently run a growatt 12k and like you said in the end of the video redundancy is a huge deal when the temps drop down to single digits and if I lost my growatt I couldn’t run the furnace and the house would freeze quick. I want backup everything for my next off grid house.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    I’m interested also. I’ve got a fellow KZreadr that’s waiting on another unit. So I’ll tag one of his videos as soon as he makes something. So far these seem like fantastic inverters.

  • @rodneyhunt
    @rodneyhunt7 ай бұрын

    Nice work!

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Looking forward to seeing your take on the 6k also.

  • @Mesabowhunter
    @Mesabowhunter7 ай бұрын

    Really looking forward to the follow up video on the 18K... ready to purchase, trying to decide between Sol Ark 15K and EG4 18K.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    I’ve been using the 18kpv off grid for close to 6 months now. It does an amazing job. I’ve put over 7 megawatts of PV through it. I would highly recommend it. I’ll go in to more detail in a couple weeks with my follow up on it.

  • @ayusraksa5749
    @ayusraksa5749Ай бұрын

    very useful. Eagerly waiting for my kit to arrive.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    Ай бұрын

    Nice! Let me know how the install goes.

  • @stevezark2152
    @stevezark21527 ай бұрын

    They are back ordered until December.. good luck getting it. I’m stilll waiting 😂

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    There was loads of interest in this inverter when it was released. They’ll be a bunch in stock soon enough I’m sure.

  • @cgutowski471
    @cgutowski4717 ай бұрын

    Great video! Any idea what the inrush is on your well pump is? Didn’t see or know where to look for the overload you mentioned.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    The overload was the 28 that flashes for like half a second on the screen. I wish I knew the startup current for the well pump. I know it’s fairly heavy, but I don’t have the stats on it.

  • @theadventuresofarenaissancman
    @theadventuresofarenaissancman7 ай бұрын

    1/4' lug is a nice fit for the battery connection.

  • @VictorRodriguez-vt1gy
    @VictorRodriguez-vt1gy5 ай бұрын

    Great tutorial

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @davidfelker6262
    @davidfelker62626 ай бұрын

    Nice informative video. Thanks! How is the unit grounded? Are you relying on the ground at your load panel? If you were connecting grid power, would you bring the neutral and ground from the grid panel?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes you’d rely on the ground from the grid panel. The unit is designed for a pass through or common neutral setup. The ground and neutral would pass through to supply your critical loads panel.

  • @ennis437
    @ennis4377 ай бұрын

    I’m interested to see how it handles dimmer switches. Has all the little flickering been resolved I would assume so but love to see it in action!

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Good point. I’ll try to add this to my next video. Id assume there isn’t any issue. This is made by a different manufacturer. But it’s definitely worth taking a look at.

  • @egkingjr
    @egkingjr4 ай бұрын

    Awesome content thank you. Looking at 6000xp to purchase for off grid. Would the minimum PV voltage of 120 V be a problem for me if I had A series array (49voc each x4) giving 200 Voc? Would I be taking a chance to lose early morning or late day watts or cloudy day watt with that 200 voc? Should I add a couple couple more panels in series to get to say 300 or will this four panel work OK with that inverter controller?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    4 ай бұрын

    It should work like that. But getting the voltage up higher would ensure you’d get the maximum amount of power available on the edges of morning and evening.

  • @InVinoVeritas.
    @InVinoVeritas.4 ай бұрын

    Great review! Did you install onto regular drywall or do they recommend using some kind of fireboard?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    4 ай бұрын

    I have a backer board behind mine. It’s what you’d use behind tile. They recommend something that has a decent fire rating. Honestly I think Sheetrock would qualify. But I haven’t looked into the fire rating for standard Sheetrock.

  • @matej.m.rejsek8537
    @matej.m.rejsek85376 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the slow, methodical walk-through of this unit. So, is it your understanding that this unit can be configured to not back-feed the grid under any circumstance? I have a house that has a wing we refer to as the 'new' addition. This area has a kitchen with a small water-heater, a den area, and a minisplit heatpump. It has it's own subpanel and it seems that this 6000xp is perfect for this application. I just don't want back feeding at times when there is excess solar production. Subscribed.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Good question. It will not back feed the grid no. That won’t be an issue. Yes it would probably work perfect for your addition. With some planning It could probably backup some of your regular house loads also in case of an outage.

  • @rv10flyer84
    @rv10flyer847 ай бұрын

    Typically we use black for L1 and red for L2. Looks good. The two 6500ex's did me in on ever buying anything EG4 again. Sticking with Schneider/Sol Ark/Midnite Solar/Morningstar or other Tier1.

  • @bkodra

    @bkodra

    7 ай бұрын

    What happened?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    I understand. Luxpower is a whole different animal then voltronics though. But Schneider and solark make a fantastic inverter. So there’s more then one way to power your house.

  • @rv10flyer84

    @rv10flyer84

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY I jumped on the band wagon in Aug 2022 before the 6500ex had been proven. I'll never buy the latest and greatest again. I want to see at least 2 yrs in the field because SS EG4 surely doesn't test them properly in house first.

  • @enricopallazzo3244

    @enricopallazzo3244

    7 ай бұрын

    @@rv10flyer84Thanks for the feedback! This unit makes a lot of sense for my cabin but as you say, that only matters if it actually works.

  • @bobcole3852
    @bobcole38524 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your insight! I had to build my power shed and after insulation will be ready to hang inverter and subpanel. I did order an additional DC disconnect to install at ground mounted panels, shoulda thought of that earlier. Do you think it matters if disconnect is located at the end or middle of the panels? Since you have St installed one string of PV, what did you install? Wattage, series, parallel...spill the beans! Thanks again for what you do to help others.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    4 ай бұрын

    As long as the disconnect for all the strings it doesn’t matter really. I have one string of 6 450w panels in series installed. But it’s fairly easy to find the right numbers for this inverter. What size is your array?

  • @bobcole3852

    @bobcole3852

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@GavinStoneDIYI havex10 Solarever 455watt panels and two of the Brightmount ground mount units that hold 4 panels each. I have called and emailed Signature Solar about getting rail extensions so I can put 5 panels on each rack but they say they don't sell parts...great that they have 10 panel minimum orders! I may have to go ahead and get a third rack and find 2 more panels but didn't want to. Our average usage is only 15-18 kwh/day and I have two of the batteries, so I thought I'd be covered. We do have grid power. Are you in Texas?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    4 ай бұрын

    @@bobcole3852 yeah I considered the bright mount also. They are an inexpensive way to mount the panels. You have 2 of the 100ah rack batteries?

  • @yankey4
    @yankey47 ай бұрын

    NICE brother. Would you mind showing more about the screen on the 18k? Thanks for sharing God Bless.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    I did show it in some other videos. It’s pretty nice. Good layout, and easy to read the stats.

  • @yankey4

    @yankey4

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY Cool thanks brother I will look around. God Bless.

  • @sammyboyde6489
    @sammyboyde64897 ай бұрын

    Nice, quick review, answered allot of questions I had, I have 2 units heading my way. I'm a bit fuzzy in the AC input connection. Do you run the ground and neutral to the same terminals in the XP where your AC out ground and neutral are connected? Where is the XP getting the neutral and ground from for 220VAC out? Dynamic, setting 26? Thanks!

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    So you’d run both neutrals to the same terminal on the unit, yes. This is a common neutral setup. Ground would only need to be connected from your main. It doesn’t need to be connected in two areas. The off grid circuit panel/ critical loads panel has a ground and neutral from your grid panel on it already.I know that may sound confusing but you don’t want to create a ground loop by connecting the incoming and outgoing ground. So in short, you create a critical loads panel. I explained briefly how to make one of them in my eg4 3k follow up review. And I left a link to a great video on how to do that. Then that gets the load power and neutral from the inverter. And the grid panel supplies the grid power, ground and neutral. I hope this helps, it sounds harder then it actually is.

  • @sammyboyde6489

    @sammyboyde6489

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY Thanks Gavin, that's what I thought. So you only need 2 hots and a neutral going to the critical loads panel and one ground going to the XP from the house mains panel. Thanks again!

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    @@sammyboyde6489 yes sir. I haven’t checked, but the manual probably shows a wiring diagram also similar to what I’m describing. Let me know how the install goes. Always like to hear feedback from people as they use the products.

  • @sammyboyde6489

    @sammyboyde6489

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY Will do, t will be a while, need to trench in the PV lines and winter is on the way...

  • @intDavid

    @intDavid

    7 ай бұрын

    @@sammyboyde6489 Or if the load center is totally independent of the main panel I think you WOULD want the ground connected from the XP to a ground bus bar in the load center (if you have a ground coming in from the main panel to the XP).

  • @davidbruce5377
    @davidbruce537711 күн бұрын

    Hi, I appreciate your videos. I have a planned 100amp panel with 3 or 4 gauge. You fit 6 but I wondered if thats the max size? Or would a lug adapter work?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    11 күн бұрын

    8 awg will work. 6 awg is actually a bit overkill for this inverter. I don’t believe 4 awg would fit in the terminals.

  • @davidbruce5377

    @davidbruce5377

    11 күн бұрын

    Thanks for your reply. Would a ferrule reducer 3 to 6work?@@GavinStoneDIY

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    11 күн бұрын

    @@davidbruce5377 possibly. But why use 4 awg? The units output 25 amps. Even with the bypass power being 50 amps 8 awg would still work.

  • @AdrianvanWijk
    @AdrianvanWijk7 ай бұрын

    A question that comes to mind regarding the WiFi setup. Are you locked in to the manufacturers server where you need an account, Or is the WiFi just available on your local network and you don't need to create an account?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    An account is required for monitoring. But you can use your local network for firmware updates.

  • @shinyprimer3459
    @shinyprimer34592 ай бұрын

    Nice video! Just got mine today. Can you get 110V from the output with no AC input connected?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    2 ай бұрын

    As long as you have solar or battery yes. It’s designed to be used off grid. So ac input isn’t a necessity.

  • @shinyprimer3459

    @shinyprimer3459

    2 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY thank you!

  • @bhbaker220
    @bhbaker2202 күн бұрын

    Did you use backer board screws to install the inverter on your wall? Did you have one screw going into a stud?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    2 күн бұрын

    I used lathe screws. But basically anything capable of holding the worker would work. I did hit a stud yes.

  • @mcrorietube
    @mcrorietube5 ай бұрын

    Great review…can I AC charge from a 15a 120v outlet?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks! You’ll need 240v to use the charge and bypass modes because the unit is split phase.

  • @user-ft1ty2mh6l
    @user-ft1ty2mh6l7 ай бұрын

    Can you tell me if either of the units (18k or 6k) balance the loads between the split phases. It's my understanding that the 18k does this but not seen anything on it. If this only did Grid Tie, I' like to do limit to home... been looking at the Sol-Ark 5k-1p-N because of this feature but it's so expensive. like twice as much as this unit... I wish Sol-Ark would come down to more competitive pricing.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Could you explain what you mean by balancing between phases? Are you referring to load balancing? The 18kpv can push 9kw on one leg. The 6000xp I think can handle nearly 4kw on one leg. Technically the 18kpv has better load balancing capabilities.

  • @JFKEOD
    @JFKEOD7 ай бұрын

    Wait! Why did you set the batteries to lead acid? I see that it works but shouldn’t it be Li-Ion? I have the same setup and my 6000xp isn’t picking up the charge level of my life Power4 batteries. Would you please explain further?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    I forgot to mention this. My eg4 LL’s V1’s need a firmware update to communicate with this inverter. That firmware isn’t out yet. But should be coming soon. So in the meantime it’s easy to just use lead acid.

  • @uselesseater5916
    @uselesseater59167 ай бұрын

    Hi! Thanks for the video! I was wondering the sizes of the cable glands that you used. I cant seem to find the sizing anywhere. Thank you!

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    The size for the knockouts on the unit? Or the specific glands I used?

  • @uselesseater5916

    @uselesseater5916

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY More so what size of glands work. I am confused with the "trade size" compared to O.D. and there is no documentation regarding hole size. It would be helpful to just point me to the 2 sizes you used here as that is all I am looking for. Thank you!

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    @@uselesseater5916 roger that. I’ll take a look at what size I used tomorrow and let you know.

  • @dangoras9152
    @dangoras91527 ай бұрын

    Im fixing to sell my outback flexware 500 and midnight controller's .. Im gonna jump up too 48v and im interested in these 6000xp. Keep us updated...

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Sure thing, I’ll keep testing. As I continue to run it through its paces, I honestly can’t believe they have the price so low. This thing is really nice.

  • @mdunbar04
    @mdunbar047 ай бұрын

    👍👍👍

  • @joetripp123
    @joetripp1237 ай бұрын

    Excellent review. I'm hoping they offer this on a Black Friday deal but it's already priced so low. Question, do you see any benefit to also putting ferrules on the load, neutral, and ground wires? Just trying to understand the logic to doing the PV wires only. Thanks.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    They could maybe offer some type of freight deal. But you really can’t tell until then. I doubt they’ll discount the actual inverter. It’s so inexpensive already for what you get. I still can’t believe what they have it priced at. On the load side typically people aren’t using fine stranded copper. In most cases you’ll use a THHN wire or an equivalent. You could add ferrules without issue. It just isn’t usually needed. On the PV wire most of it is fine stranded. Although I have had some that isn’t. And you may have some heat build up on the DC side there if connections aren’t tight.

  • @joetripp123

    @joetripp123

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY perhaps free shipping or a bundle with two EG4 LLs. I’d love that. Ah ok I missed the fine stranded part. That makes sense. Thanks.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    @@joetripp123 ferrules are so easy to add with the smaller gauges that’s it’s a good idea. Plus if you ever seen a PV connection that’s loose it can be scary. If I see any deals pop up I’ll be sure to make a community post about it. I have a feeling the 6000xp is going to be one of the most popular off grid inverters pretty soon.

  • @joetripp123

    @joetripp123

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIYI've been planning my first setup for months with your channel and others like Will's. 100% going with 48v and using a dedicated critical load panel apart from the mains (but with main feed through backup). I almost bought the EG4 3000 EHV-48 as I really only need 3kw to start. But after you add in the breakers, solar disconnect, etc it's almost as much as the 600XP - so why not just plan for split phase now... Only thing I haven't nailed down is the PV panels and size. Probably will need 2 48v batteries because I'd be limiting the 600xp's output if only one. Thanks for all the good information.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    @@joetripp123 man I’m glad to help. I remember when I first started out. Trying to decide what to go with. If you ever have any super detailed questions feel free to email me. I try to respond as soon as possible to people.

  • @motomike1197
    @motomike11977 ай бұрын

    I think i could get away with 3 of these to replace my 4- 6500's. I really like the low consumption rate and them being split phase. 👍

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    For me the 18kw with 3 of these would be perfect. I’m just a little shy of power in the summer sometimes with 12kw. If you do pull the trigger on them let me know how it goes. I’m getting some great feedback from people.

  • @motomike1197

    @motomike1197

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY I run most of my stuff with just 2 -6500s, so the 18k would work, and maybe run just one of these. Do you think I could run both off the same busbar? I now have 20- eg4 batteries running everything in " USE" mode.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    @@motomike1197 it depends on which busbar you have. As long as the busbar can handle the total amperage of 3 units you’ll be fine. If you had 4 6500’s on that busbar then I would say it can handle the load.

  • @motomike1197

    @motomike1197

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY I'm Alittle confused on the max VOC on these. They say 480v I saw the SS video with Kelly and the comments. So, if you have a 6500 with 500voc can you still use the same panel configuration on these inverters? Right now I have 8- 455w panels with 49.35 voc per PV input. That's 16 panels per inverter and I have 4 inverters. This really still isn't enough for this time of year. I need to make sure these are not 240v per PV input that would only be 4 panels per PV input. I definitely can't do that. It would cut my total number of panels in half.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    @@motomike1197 I plan on adding this to my next video. It’s 480v max voc per mppt input. I’m not sure why they continue to word it the other way. Lots of people are still confused. Essentially the same as the 6500ex inputs. They were 500v per input. The voltage mentioned in the specs will always be per input. Otherwise these would be paralleled. I hope this helps.

  • @JS-gf6uc
    @JS-gf6uc6 ай бұрын

    Gavin You have the red wire in Load #1 . Should that be the black wire?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes indeed. I don’t have grid supplying power. So technically it doesn’t matter. But yes, the black should be L1

  • @briha3142
    @briha31427 ай бұрын

    With the price of the 18Kpv at $5200, you can almost buy four of the 6000XPs, for a true 24Kpv system! I’ve got this 6000XP on order, and am now reading the manual. The 480 VOC is split between the two MPPTs, but the manual says it’ll run ‘optimally’ with 320 Volts (divided in half, for the two PV legs). And 17 Amps for each MPPT! You’ll never get close to the 4000 Watt capacity for each PV leg, due to the 240 Volt restriction, for each MPPT, sadly! The best I could figure out on the two solar legs, is going with (6) 415 Watt panels (37.75 VOC per panel, keeping below the 240 VOC limit), in series, for a total of 2490 Watts on each solar leg, (4980 total watts), because of the 240 VOC restriction per MPPT! (4000W divide by 17A comes to 235V!) If anybody else can figure out a way to get closer to the 10,000 Watt Solar max, for this Inverter, please let me know!

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Could you point to where that’s referenced in the manual? I believe the specs given are per mppt. Other then the total wattage that is. In other words each mppt is 480v, 17 amps, 4,000 watts. However they do give an option to combine the inputs in the menu.

  • @nickrhee7178
    @nickrhee71787 ай бұрын

    How does this inverter address neutral-ground bonding issue in both on and off grid modes? EG4 says "The 6000XP architecture assumes there is a single neutral-ground bond in the system. Typically, the Neutral-Ground Bond for a system will be at the first means of disconnect for the grid. However, if there is no Neutral-ground bond in the system the 6000XP can be configured to create the bond internally. Note that this is not a dynamic bond. It is always enabled or always disabled. Further information can be found in the manual." EG4 EHV3000 has dynamic NG bonding mechanism and it works for me. On-grid mode the neutral of AC output is connected to the neutral of AC input (so it is bonded in main panel) and in off-grid mode the neutral of AC output is connected to the ground of AC output (so all neutrals in sub panel are bonded in the inverter. - so NG bonding dynamically change. So my question is how 6000xp take care of N-G bonding in off-grid mode? Thanks

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    The 6000xp uses a pass through neutral setup. So in the event you have it hooked to the grid that is providing the bond even in off grid. And if you don’t have grid input then you would enable the bond in the inverter.

  • @egkingjr
    @egkingjr4 ай бұрын

    If I never plan to put grid power into this inverter, I would configure the 6000 to do neutral ground bond (sw setting ,not N PE bus jumper in 6000) and then configure my load center to be separate ground and neutral right?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah that’s how you’d do it. You could always bond it in your load center as well. But since the inverter has the option you can just use that. Either way.

  • @johnross779
    @johnross7797 ай бұрын

    What's the starting amp for the well pump . Or In rush current ? Great video.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    I wish I knew. I don’t have the exact stats on it. I wasn’t out here the day the well company installed it. I haven’t measured the startup current.

  • @johnross779

    @johnross779

    7 ай бұрын

    @GavinStoneDIY can you measure the inrush current with a clamp meter that has ability tp measure inrush current?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    @@johnross779 I’d need to invest in a fluke meter. Those are fantastic. But pricey. Maybe when my channel grows a bit more.

  • @johnross779

    @johnross779

    7 ай бұрын

    @GavinStoneDIY at harbor freight you will find a good clamp meter for under $100 dollars .

  • @sammyboyde6489
    @sammyboyde64896 ай бұрын

    Gavin, can you explain the proper way to pre-charge the inverter caps with non LL batteries? The standard Lifepower4 manual states to turn on ALL the battery breakers. The non LL batteries I have do not have a BMS switch and "turn all batteries on" seems like allot of inrush current to me?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    So do you have the lifepower4 models then? With those you would usually switch one on first. When that cycles through, it’ll make a small clicking sound and the lights turn green. After that the capacitors are all charged up. You’re safe to turn all the batteries on.

  • @sammyboyde6489

    @sammyboyde6489

    6 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY Thank You Gavin.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    @@sammyboyde6489 sure thing. Make sure to have your DC breaker on in the inverter before starting the process.

  • @sammyboyde6489

    @sammyboyde6489

    6 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY Will do.

  • @theadventuresofarenaissancman
    @theadventuresofarenaissancman7 ай бұрын

    I've tested mine up to 4,000 watt surge on a single leg.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    I saw Markus mention this also. Which is really cool. I’d like to see more info when you get the other unit hooked in parallel. Specifically how well they can handle a surge together.

  • @YaNv3
    @YaNv37 ай бұрын

    I have a doubt. For the neutral wire coming from the grid is that one connected to the same bar where the neutral going to the output is connected? That has me so confuse

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    It’s a common neutral setup. So yes, that would connect to the same bar.

  • @YaNv3

    @YaNv3

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the explanation.

  • @longtimber1
    @longtimber17 ай бұрын

    Will it output 240V PV Direct? ie. Without Battey during day?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes. I mention that in my follow up video. It will output 240v directly from solar. But the manual does mention that it may be inconsistent power due to clouds or shading.

  • @daddio7249
    @daddio72497 ай бұрын

    Too bad I got my EG4 6500EX system four months ago, these would be much better. I just now got my panels installed and need to know the torque for the PV wire screws. The manual is no help, do you torque your connections? If so how tight? I have a digital torque screw driver.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    I believe it’s .8 N.m or 7lb-in on the PV terminals for the 6500ex’s.

  • @daddio7249

    @daddio7249

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY Thanks.

  • @nickrhee7178
    @nickrhee71787 ай бұрын

    So you are able to run 3/4 HP well pump easily. I have 1 HP 300ft deep well pump, do you think this inverter will be able to run my well pump? I hope this inverter will run it. I would like to hear your opinion. Nick

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    In my opinion yes it would start the well. Keep in mind though you’ll likely have other loads running as well. Unless you have a really small cabin then it’s probably easier to just have 2 of these units.

  • @nickrhee7178

    @nickrhee7178

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY I may be better off with a separate low frequency split-phase (120/240) inverter just for the well (6kw continuous 18kw surge capable) for example Signeer 6kw. Also I have septic pump motors that need to run.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    @@nickrhee7178 I think with 2 of these you wouldn’t have an issue. An over all rating of 24kw surge. And really good idle consumption numbers.

  • @Dmkjr
    @Dmkjr7 ай бұрын

    Did not read through all the comments, but how are the fans? The 6500’s were so loud.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Definitely quieter. I’ll try to talk about this in my next video. The unit does get loud when it’s at full capacity. But the 6500’s were just always loud.

  • @Dmkjr

    @Dmkjr

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY always, always, always loud. 😩🤦‍♂️

  • @ScottieBMan
    @ScottieBMan7 ай бұрын

    What would be the minimum solar array for this unit linked with a 48v 100Ah battery? Thanks for vid.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    You’d need 2 100ah batteries to use this unit at its full capacity. Some of that would depend on the exact type of battery. But most 100 ah rack batteries can discharge at 100 amp rate. And I believe the minimum voltage is 120v for solar. So it would depend on your panels specs how many that would take. If you had sole panels in mind I could help with that.

  • @ScottieBMan

    @ScottieBMan

    7 ай бұрын

    My plan was to get one 48v 100ah EG4 LL battery for now and expand down the road. Solar panels I was looking at Canadian solar 390w I believe 36v monocrystal black panels. So think I would need at least 4 of those for now but I’m open to alternatives. Thanks for your response.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ScottieBManyeah I would use at least 5 of those solar panels. As far as the battery is concerned, 1 will work. You’ll just be capped out right around 5,000 watts of output. It’s also a bit more stress on a single battery for discharging . But the system can be scaled as you get the money. So it’ll function like that. Plus with solar input you’ll use the power directly from the sun first before it pulls on the battery.

  • @ScottieBMan

    @ScottieBMan

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIYthanks for your help, subbed man!

  • @richardthames661
    @richardthames6613 ай бұрын

    My question is how did you hook it up into the breaker box and get it from the 240 to the 120 did you have to have a transfer switch how come no one ever shows that

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    3 ай бұрын

    Your output would go to a double pole 40 or 50 amp breaker in a sub panel. That way each leg is providing power into that panel. When I get more time I will make a wiring video.

  • @richardthames661

    @richardthames661

    3 ай бұрын

    Awesome can't wait

  • @richardthames661

    @richardthames661

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm going to subscribe and turn on notifications and wait for that video

  • @jdell6250
    @jdell62506 ай бұрын

    Grid Assist/Pass Thru? If so what size main panel breaker to 1 unit?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes it has bypass. I would use a 40 amp breaker to and from the unit.

  • @ezekielchery6892
    @ezekielchery68923 ай бұрын

    Can I hook up a 18Kpv in parallel with a 6000xp?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    3 ай бұрын

    Not directly no. They don’t communicate with each other. The 6000xp could technically feed into the generator input on the 18kpv though.

  • @lkevonly
    @lkevonly7 ай бұрын

    Would 4/0 battery wires fit in that inverter?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    They would yes. That would be pretty excessive though. The 2/0 I used is really overkill even.

  • @lkevonly

    @lkevonly

    7 ай бұрын

    @GavinStoneDIY that's great to know considering they are pretty expensive. Would i need a bus bar connected to server rack battery? I plan to buy this inverter + 3 rack batteries.

  • @lkevonly
    @lkevonly7 ай бұрын

    Can you put them in parallel and run 3 phase?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    That isn’t available yet, they are testing the firmware. But it is in the works for this unit yes.

  • @lkevonly

    @lkevonly

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY nice! Can't wait to see that happening.

  • @allsolartexas
    @allsolartexas7 ай бұрын

    How’s that EG4 18K treating you?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Loving it. Still running off grid. Over 7 megawatts of PV and nearly that much in output. It’s just an awesome machine.

  • @allsolartexas

    @allsolartexas

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY great to hear. Our customers have had trouble with a few units. We’ve had to swap them out for Sol Arks. 👍🏻

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    @@allsolartexas really? What were the issues they were having?

  • @allsolartexas

    @allsolartexas

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY kzread.info/dash/bejne/f4h_r8Gqo5PcgKQ.htmlfeature=shared

  • @fakeittillyoumakeit3370
    @fakeittillyoumakeit33707 ай бұрын

    Would this struggle with my 50 amp camper?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    So technically it would supply 25 amps at 240v. That’s 6,000 watts of split phase power. So it really depends on what you’re wanting to run in the camper.

  • @myhificloud
    @myhificloud7 ай бұрын

    Inverter Questions: - Pure Sine Wave? - Low Frequency?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Good questions! Yes it’s a pure sine wave inverter. High frequency.

  • @myhificloud

    @myhificloud

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY Thank you for this information and for another great video. Your content is always helpful, methodical and provides clarity around important details that support various installation/use cases. Very much appreciated and thank you.

  • @luiscastillo861
    @luiscastillo8617 ай бұрын

    looking to but this inverter in Mexico. Any suggestions where to buy it??

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Does Signature Solar ship to Mexico? Have you clicked my link and seen if they give that as shipping option? Honestly I haven’t been asked that before.

  • @briha3142

    @briha3142

    7 ай бұрын

    Current Connected sells these EG4 6000XP units, too, but their shipping is 5x that of Sig Solar!

  • @luiscastillo861

    @luiscastillo861

    7 ай бұрын

    wow 5X!!, no way, that sig solar is that the company name?

  • @sheldon7040
    @sheldon70404 ай бұрын

    Can anyone say if the 6000xp is able to charge it's battery via grid or generator AC input with a 120vac supply? From a 120v socket if the charge current is reduced to 15 or 20 amps ? For temporary use. Does anyone know if this is possible?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    4 ай бұрын

    It’s not able to charge or operate with a 120v ac input . It would need 240v ac input.

  • @KoiAquaponics
    @KoiAquaponics5 ай бұрын

    Hi, am i corect that this unit has a battery charging voltage of 60vdc?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    A range of 42-60v I believe? I’d have to check. Were you wanting to use a diy battery?

  • @KoiAquaponics

    @KoiAquaponics

    5 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY yeah I'm interested see if it works with lifepo4 17s wiring

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    @@KoiAquaponics probably not no. It’s meant for 16s. I haven’t really seen many people using a 17s configuration.

  • @KoiAquaponics

    @KoiAquaponics

    5 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY what's the max charge voltage the system allows you to set?

  • @javiergonzalez-us5is
    @javiergonzalez-us5is7 ай бұрын

    Can I use the 6000xp with one pro wallmount eg4?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah that would work great. One pro battery is basically the equivalent of 3 rack batteries. Just a small amount less. So you’d have a good amount of storage with that setup.

  • @javiergonzalez-us5is

    @javiergonzalez-us5is

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY how about a 6500ex ?

  • @javiergonzalez-us5is

    @javiergonzalez-us5is

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY also can you do a video comparing the 6500ex and the 6000xp?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    @@javiergonzalez-us5is they would pull around the same amount of amerpage. So it would work with that as well. The 6500ex has been discontinued. So I’m not sure there would be a bunch of interest. The 6000xp so far seems like a better investment. Really nice features and a quality build. I’m still testing and looking for weak points though.

  • @sjbill1793
    @sjbill17937 ай бұрын

    Why did you set your batteries to LEAD-ACID ? Why not Lith-ion ?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    I’m still waiting on firmware for the eg4 LL V1’s. They are coming out with a firmware for the older version so I can connect communication to the 6000xp. So in the meantime I’ll just use the lead acid setting. Which means it’s just basing the charge and discharge on voltage. You can technically use the lead acid setting without any issue. It’s just nicer to have communication if possible.

  • @sjbill1793

    @sjbill1793

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY What AWG PV wire do you recommend ?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    @@sjbill1793 usually 10 awg is good for most higher voltage applications. So it does depend on how many panels you have running in series and your total amperage. If you had the stats on your panels and how many you’re going to wire I could tell you for sure. But 10 awg is usually enough.

  • @SpottedCow1604
    @SpottedCow16047 ай бұрын

    why lead acid mode?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    I was waiting on firmware for the eg4 LL V1 batteries. That way they can communicate. They sent it to me now so I’ve just got to get around to uploading it and setting up the communication.

  • @hectorvazquez9259
    @hectorvazquez92592 ай бұрын

    how fit eg4 6000xp error 020

  • @davidbruce5377
    @davidbruce537711 күн бұрын

    I have an 100amp panel with peak load of 18kw

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    10 күн бұрын

    If you’re supplying a sub panel from the grid That’s a different story. But you mentioned the inverter. Those output 25 amps. Which Doesn’t require anything near that big. How many inverters are you installing?

  • @ArthurBowen-nl4dv
    @ArthurBowen-nl4dv5 ай бұрын

    What is price?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    You could check the link on my video because it will change sometimes. I think they are $1,400 right now.

  • @zachreyhelmberger894
    @zachreyhelmberger8946 ай бұрын

    I just converted an off-grid 24V outdoor lead acid system to 48V with 6 LiFePower4 indoor batteries and an EG4 6000XP. My customer needs AC power NOW! Everything checks out with the multimeter but for the love of GOD, I cannot figure out how to turn on the INVERTER. Please GOD don't make me rip all of this out and put the 24V system back in tomorrow!!! Isn't there some way to make the inverter turn on!?!?

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    How did you attempt to start the inverter? The precharge resistors have to be used on the batteries. This can be a fairly common mistake.

  • @nerkymusselman8843
    @nerkymusselman88436 ай бұрын

    i’d really like to see someone describe these as if the viewer knows next to nothing. it doesn’t take long for all videos i’ve seen on this to go way over my head.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    I thought about this afterwards. I really need to do a step by step guide for this. It sounds more complicated then it is really.

  • @quickquote1568
    @quickquote15684 ай бұрын

    6,000 Watts of power with one of the poorest peak power ratings on the market.

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    4 ай бұрын

    Is it really one of the poorest on the market?

  • @quickquote1568

    @quickquote1568

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes, at only a 2 times continuous or 12,000 Watts, it's on the lower end of the scale for an off grid inverter. @@GavinStoneDIY

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    4 ай бұрын

    @@quickquote1568 that’s fairly standard for off grid HF inverters. So I’m not sure how that adds it to the “poorest” category.

  • @JB-xl5kg
    @JB-xl5kg7 ай бұрын

    Placed my order on Sig. Solar almost a month ago and just got notified it is now back ordered....Looks like I won't get this unit installed anytime soon:(

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    Oh man that’s not good. I saw recently that most orders will be shipped before the second week in December. So I would imagine yours will be shipped soon. Was it just the inverter or was there a battery that’s back ordered?

  • @JB-xl5kg

    @JB-xl5kg

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GavinStoneDIY I believe just the two inverters are on back order so hopefully I can at least get my new panels up and installed before we get 4' of snow hahahaha

  • @larryphillips4164
    @larryphillips41647 ай бұрын

    Need a 6000 or 8000xp for a 12v system plz. 🤪

  • @GavinStoneDIY

    @GavinStoneDIY

    7 ай бұрын

    I hear ya. 12v just isn’t efficient at that wattage really. I mean at 6kw that’s over 400 amps on your wires and bus bars. Anything above 3kw everyone is just better off going to 48v in my opinion.

  • @hectorvazquez9259
    @hectorvazquez92592 ай бұрын

    how fit eg4 6000xp error 020

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