KernelFactory, That was a great question and I I hope this helps! Thank you again for your question and I have lots of info on my site. There is a link to it in the description. Thanks, Joe Letendre

Thanks Tony!! I really appreciate the comment. I use the + and - also, I bring that up in another video!!

You made me smile with the 16-3/4" "big" measurement. I thought I was the only one that did that except I usually use + or - for 1/32" adjustments. I do a lot of tile and stone work and always like to see how other craftsmen do their work. Looks like you do good work!

I like the way you protected that tub! I am getting ready to do this and have just installed an expensive whirlpool tub. I am going to have to really protect that during the process. Thanks!

Thank you very much for the great comment. I am confident you can do this. I have lots of videos and there is a lot of info on my site. There is a link to it in the description below the video.

I've watched a few of these videos on other channels and this is the best one by far, step by step and done in real time with great explanation along the way. Thanks very much for taking the time to do this video, I'll check out some of your others too if they are all this good. I feel I'm ready to do it myself now. Much appreciated,.

Steve, Great comment! I understand your concern and if you use the proper insulation along with a vapor barrier, then waterproof the cement board with hydroban , you will not have any problems. I live in Minnesota and the weather is the same. Humidity is very high and drastic temperature changes are constant. We don't get 110 degrees but it get's hot. Be sure to use the best possible insulation that you can and mold will not be an issue. People have problems because they skip important steps.

thank you for the quick response. I will have plenty more questions down the road as I am forced to remodel my shower because i had some tiles cave in when I barely bumped them with my knee and discovered that the previous owner of our house remodeled the shower and only used sheet rock! and no waterproofing what so ever! so im in the process of tearing it all down and drying it out and starting from scratch. great videos!!!

This video helped me a lot. Thank you.

Thanks again Joe! I followed the link and signed up! I am going to do some insulation today.

Hey partner I just wanna say that I've seen hundreds and hundreds of videos and I have to say stay on point like you've been doing,your videos are fantastic I love them they are very very helpful thank you so very much....

Thank you very much! I guess I didn't put it together when you asked about the green board. The green is a paintable membrane(hydro ban) that I put on over the top if the cement board. I appreciate your comments!!

Great detail - like how to but the cement board against the shower base. Thanks.

KernelFactory, I did not use green board anywhere! I used cement board all throughout the shower. I always use cement board in a wet area like a shower. If use green board outside of a wet area that would be fine. For example: the walls in the bathroom that do not get wet, but it is in a damp area. I know that there claim is it's safe, but I personally only trust cement board in my tile installations. Keep in mind that when using green board, the tile is only sticking to a piece of paper.

Cement board is much more durable. It is cement all the way through and when tile is attached to it it becomes one. Most of the time if you try to take a piece of tile off a piece of cement board, the cement board will come with it. If you do the same thing with gypsum then only a layer of paper will come off. If gypsum gets wet it's not savable, where cement board can withstand water. Choose cement board, it is the right way to go!!

Thank you Steve! I think you are being smart to make sure you know that what you are doing is right. I am going to be releasing a new series on my site this week! It is on How to Tile Custom Shower from start to finish. It will include a custom shower pan. Check it out and thanks again. Of course a link to my site is in the description below the video! Please keep in touch and let me know how the install is going.

cesarN maria, Thank you for this great question! Just fill that in with thin set. You can spread it with a 6 inch taping knife or use the flat side of your trowel that you will be using when installing your tile. Just make sure that it is even with the cement board and you can use fiberglass tape to reinforce it. It also will help hold the thin set in there. Mix the thin set a little thick so it will not sag and drip out(that's what the tape will help with). Check out my site for more tips.

You set the cement board right on top of the lip of the shower or tub base? if so do you put silicone chalk in between?

Good stuff! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

Thanks again Joe! I followed the link and signed up!

Very useful, thank you!

I very much appreciate your advice! I think I might get some attic insulation, that way it wont be faced. Then cover it with the black tar paper and use the hydroban. I think Im just head-tripping it. Thanks again! Im getting closer to being ready to do the shower area, I think I will put up the green sheetrock in the rest of the bathroom first.

Very detailed and practical demo! Especially about the lip of the tub stuff. I have the same problem about the tub lip and this video gives a good solution

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

3 жыл бұрын

glad to help

I use bituthene to go over the tub lip and about 3 inches up the wall studs, Good vid!! 👍

I have a video for that on my website. You can access that from the link in the description of this video.

thetiefenbruns, I do have shower floor videos on my site and there is a link to it in the description below. The black material behind the cement board is tar paper. I don't have a video on that. It can be used for additional protection from water, but if you are using hydroban in the shower like I demonstrate in my waterproofing a shower video, you will not need the tar paper! Great questions! If you have anymore please ask.You can also ask on my site and there is a link in the description!

Great job

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

8 жыл бұрын

+wbn Thx much appreciated!

I very much appreciate your advice! I think I might get some attic insulation, that way it wont be faced. Then cover it with the black tar paper and use the hydroban. I think Im just head-tripping it. If you have a minute I'dlike to ask if you have any videos on tiling the ceiling over the shower/tub? I plan on tiling it. The ceiling over the shower has been lowered and is lower than the rest of the room

You explains good, thanks.

Thanks for the videos! I'm learning a lot.

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

5 жыл бұрын

Yw and thx

The tar paper is just an extra added protection for moisture. I like to make sure moisture will never be problem.

Nice work bro I’m getting more ideas 💡

I am redoing a laundry room with hardibacker, some suggest using a vapor barrier, should i go with that tar paper?

Thank you Sir,

Since you are putting a vapor barrier over it, it doesn't need to be paper faced. The R value is what is the most important. Your insulation will stop the hot and cold changes from from getting to the wall, which is what causes sweating, that causes mold. I am not an expert in insulation, so you check with someone on that. I am talking to you as if I was in your shoes and what would I do. I have never had a moisture problem with the methods that I am sharing with you, so I believe in it.

pretty informative video. thanks for posting. A quick question, i saw that your rested the Durarock on top of the shower base lip. When you tile the shower, did you have the tile itself overhang over the 1/4 inch base lip and did put mortar on that spot of the base lip as well . Its a shiny/ glossy surface and I didnt know if it would stick ? thanks !

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

8 жыл бұрын

+Rob Chiulli Every situation is different but what I did in this situation is I taped that joint with mesh tape and then I painted it with a waterproofing membrane. I then filled that gap with thin set. It solved a few problems for me. I was able to waterproof that area, give the thin set something to stick to and I will never have to worry about cracking. It also helps if there was ever movement in the tub. Again every situation is different. I can help you more if you need it. You can go to my website(there is a link in this video description) and find the link there to my facebook page and post some pics of your situation. I would be glad to help. Hope this helps!

gracias amigo nice and clean...

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

5 жыл бұрын

Yw Juan

Does working with an outside wall make any difference on the type of waterproofing? Question I have had different answers to, I would appreciate your advice. Thanks~Steve

I liked your video.

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

9 жыл бұрын

James Weissbach Thanks very much!

Thank you for the great question. The only thing that needs to be done that would be different is to have a vapor barrier behind the cement board. There really is not anything else that needs to be done differently. Hydroban, which is the product I use, can be used on any wall. Just to be sure about your question- are you referring to an outside wall inside the house? Even if you are talking about a wall that is outdoors hydroban will work!! This product is GREAT!!

Thanks so much for your video! What would my wall prep look like if one wall is concrete cinderblock (in an unfinished laundry room)? Would you just put the concrete board on the drywall side and just tile directly onto the cinder block side? Or do I need to make both walls uniform surface first?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. But if it is in a wet area you need to waterproof the block wall.i also would ch3ck to see how flat it is and fix if needed.

Steve, let me know if I can help anymore and if I answered your question.

7:54 thanks for the 'tight' info. so many vids say 1/8 gap

thanks man

Good no nonsense tips

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

6 жыл бұрын

+George Caraghiaur thank you!

Have you ever used Redgard? I am currently renovating our master bathroom and I plan on using hardie in conjunction with Redgard for the shower walls with a Swanstone fiberglass shower base (I installed today). I wanted to use Durock Next Gen (never used it before) because it was recommended to me for shower walls however every board at Home Depot had damaged edges exposing the mesh. When I went to pick up a few boards to put on the lumber cart they all cracked in the middle. Durock seems very brittle in comparison to hardie.

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

9 жыл бұрын

gschum1 No i have not used redguard. I have'nt heard of any failures with it so I'm sure it is fine to use.Durock can be brittle and it gets beat up at the home improvement stores. BUT....once thinset is applied it has the strength you need. I dont like hardi backer for many reasons.

Let me know if I can help with anything else Steve.

7/16” galvanized staples every four inches work wonders. We do tear off tests, holds better, install 1/3rd the time, tape it, redguard, go

I was going to tell you that actually 2 of the walls of this shower are outside walls. I added the area onto the house that the tub sits in. The reason I am very concerned about the waterproofing on those 2 outside walls is the crazy weather here in Oklahoma. It can go from just below freezing at night to 75 degrees or more in a matter of hours, add to that super-high humidity here and temps can get up to 110 degrees in summer. Mold can be a real prob.

Thanks for the video. I am using durock for my shower walls, overtop the durock I will be installing full size synthetic marble slabs instead of tile. Basically getting rid of all the grout and tile seams that leaked before. My question, is it recommended to put a vapor barrier between the studs and durock? Or should I just tape the seams?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

9 жыл бұрын

Sam Gerardi only if it is an exterior wall.

Can I use tar paper for added protection on my shower walls before I put up Durock like you did? They are interior walls but it seems quick and easy and may as well staple it up for added water proofing or is that a possible problem??

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

7 жыл бұрын

Sure but it really isn't needed! I used it for filming purposes. I was trying to hide something from the camera!!!

I love your videos Man. You're actually going to help me do my first shower and Floors upstairs for my wife. I'm following along with you on all of it. what is the black vapor barrier behind the concrete board you have there? or what would you suggest for me being in California? by the way thank you very much for taking your time to make these super helpful.

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

7 жыл бұрын

The black vapor barrier is tar paper. You don't need it. I always recommend a vapor barrier on any exterior wall no matter where you live...

Thanks

do you have any experience with a gypsum backing board? if so pros cons compared to cement backing board?

whats the black material called that you put up behind the cement board? any videos or techniques putting that material up?

Did you put green board above the cement board or take the cement board all the way to the ceiling?

What do you fill the lip with between the top of the tub and the cement board?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

10 жыл бұрын

I use hydroban then thin set. Check ou my site for more info on this, therre is a link in the description of the video.

How do you fill in the gab underneath the area where the cement board and the bath tub lip meet?

Hi. I bought hardiebacker do you think I should bring it back and get durorock or wonder board to do shower wall tile? And how much do you gap the board's from the lip of the tub. thanks

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

8 жыл бұрын

+Joey Cuts I would use durrock or wonder board cause it's easier to work with. Also ;leave an 1/8 of an inch gap between the tub and cement board.

@JoeyCappuccino

8 жыл бұрын

I ended up using the 1/2 inch hardiebacker it was the worst to cut had to use a diamond tip blade for my saw was worried about the the bonding to the board when I called hardiebacker they told me to wipe with a damp sponge hopefully won't have a problem only using 6x6 tile so there not heavy next time using the durrock liked the way you just cut right threw it.

i see that you nailed the felt paper over something else. was it drywall, plywood, or just the joists?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

6 жыл бұрын

It was the studs. That is not necessary though.

Do you have a video where you show how you filled in where the lip of the tub is?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

6 жыл бұрын

Yes on my website in my members only area. Go to sothatshowyoudothat.com and click on tile university

For a bathtub surround, where I won't be putting up a redgaurd or other water proofer over the Durock, would you primer the Durock before tiling? Or just tile right over the Durock without any primer? I ask because Versabond says primer should be used over lightweight cement, but Durock has no mention of it. My plan was to use Versabond as a thinset. I have heard of CBU's sucking moisture out of thin-set, any recommendations? Thanks!

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

8 жыл бұрын

+Bryan Boyle If you use a polymer modified, latex modified, fortied thinset there is no need for anything else. I mention all those names because different brands of thinsets use different terms. Just be sure it has a latex additive. I have never primed cement board.

@Neoplasmosis

8 жыл бұрын

SoThatsHowYouDoThat Thank you! I used Flexbond mortar (polymer-modified) and it adhered quite well without a primer. Amazing how hard it was to remove a tile that needed to be adjusted just seconds after putting it on the wall.

I'm going to replace my walls but don't want to cut up to the ceiling should I just go the height of the durock up, 5ft? then would i just cut a foot off the main side wall if I'm hanging those sideways?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

8 жыл бұрын

Yes that will be fine!

What do I use to cover the joint where the cement board and drywall meet? Thanks

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

8 жыл бұрын

+Dave Sanderson, Jr. If the tile is going to cover that joint then use tape and thin set otherwise use sheetrock joint compound so it can be sanded smoothly for paint.

where is the video that involves taping and thin setting your joints? can't seem to find it. Thank You.

How thick is the sheet rock you're using for the walls?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

10 жыл бұрын

I use a 1/2 inch cement board!

If your installation is in a shower, than watch my Waterproofing your Shower-how to tile a shower wall video. I talk about this in that video. However I am working on several videos right now and I will make sure I get that video in the near future. When taping joints I always use a fiberglass tape. I put it over the joints first, then spread a layer of thin set over that. In the shower I use a waterproofing membrane to fill most of the cracks. Let me know if you have any more questions.

How powerful (voltage) is your screwdriver?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

10 жыл бұрын

It's just a cheap drill, nothing special!

thanks for the video, very helpful! Quick question - In adidtion to tiling the shower, I plan on tiling a half wall throughout the entire bathroom about 4' high. My intention was to use durock in the shower and greenboard everywhere else in the bath. However i was told today by someone at USG that I should use durock on the half wall as well since greenboard (or anything with a paper backing) can delaminate and compromise the tile. do you agree with that or are they just trying to sell me the more expensive product?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

7 жыл бұрын

No. If its not in the shower then it doesnt need to have cement board!

How did your cement board sit even with the tip of the flange when it's a "1/2" thick?

Interesting

What material did you use for your vapor barrier??

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

8 жыл бұрын

Tar paper, but this was not an exterior wall so use plastic. That was for filming purposes

good

How much of a gap do I need to leave between my shower pan and the bottom of the backer board and does it matter which side of the board I face out?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

9 жыл бұрын

thee7thson Leave an 1/8 of an inch gap and you want the rough side of the cement board to be facing out.

How do you cover the 1/8" gap at the bottom? The tile will cover most of the gap but the grout still needs to have something behind as a backer.

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

9 жыл бұрын

Contour man Fill the gap at the bottom with caulk.

thetiefenbruns, I experience with gypsum backer board and I would not use it! I think the only reason they made this product is for easier installation. I think it is JUNK! I know there claims sound good but it really comes down to this- If you install tile on this type of backer board, the only thing you have attached your tile to is a thin piece of paper that covers the gypsum. That's it! I just think that is not good enough. So I always recommend cement board. Durock 2nd Generation is best.

Thank you Sir! Would you recomend paper faced insulation or the encapsulated in plastic insulation?

I`m using cement board to sheet my newly framed fireplace wall...there is not going to be any moisture...the firebox is electric...do you think I could use deck screws...and what length of screw are you using on 1/2" board

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

9 жыл бұрын

Stephen Hall Yes and use 1 1/4 in length

Is quarter inch cement board strong enough for walls?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

7 жыл бұрын

No it is not!!

whats the black cover in the back of the tiles called? thanks

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

8 жыл бұрын

its just a tar paper.

Did you use just drywall screws?

Just use a skill saw with a diamond blade or a a mini dremel for the really tight cuts.. Damn knives get dull quick and tend to chip away the interior stone sometimes.. Just my 2 c

What is that black paper? Is it needed. I am putting cement board on my sheetrock wall

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

9 жыл бұрын

Lenaitasi Gukisuva Its Tar paper and you do not need to use it.

@lenaitasigukisuva9343

9 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your prompt reply

Love your stuff... but it frustrates me. I am looking for stuff because the contractor is doing it wrong.

OK do you think it's OK not to use cement board to the ceiling? just up 6' and keep the dry wall & plaster the rest the way up.

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

7 жыл бұрын

If you are tiling to the ceiling then use cement board the entire way up.

Yes Sir, it is an outside wall, inside the house. I have heard that if you use a vapor barrier behind the cement board and also use the Hydroban it will cause what they refered to as a "mold sandwich" doyou think there is any truth to this?

Can i use Cement board over the wood subfloor, then the rubber membrane over that then build the cement slope?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

8 жыл бұрын

+Joseph Russo Is this for a shower?

@josephrusso4805

8 жыл бұрын

yes

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

8 жыл бұрын

+Joseph Russo No. You will need to build the showerpan either on top of a bladder or build the pan then put the membrane on top of the pan to waterproof that way. There is really a ton of info to explain and it would be better to watch. Just go to my website so thats how you do that and I have videos there that you can watch. There is a link in the description or on my channel that you can use to get there.

@josephrusso4805

8 жыл бұрын

i was going to use the cement board for added strength over the sub floor ,then build the bladder over that, so you say i don't need it

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

8 жыл бұрын

+Joseph Russo Nope not at all. If you want to give it more support then go right ahead. I would consider using a membrane on top of the pan instead of using a bladder. Much easier, cleaner, it provides an anti fracture for the tile and it prevents mold and mildew.

Whats behind the black paper, is it studs and insulation?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

9 жыл бұрын

Robert Ortega studs. The tar paper was for filming purpose only.

@robertortega2809

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks

so I'm 18 trying to help my parents fix our house. we have to remove all the walls, bathtub, everything to fix it. insulated then make it look new again. so doing so do we do this to our entire bathroom ?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

7 жыл бұрын

No only where you are going to tile.

do you have any videos of redoing the shower floor or is it pretty much the same

Can you use cement board to insulate a house?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

10 жыл бұрын

Adan Castellon Not sure what you mean exactly, but you will still need insulation behind the cement board on any exterior walls.

Why do star hanging from the bottom?? I learned to hang Sheetrock from top to bottom and isn't the same for all sheets?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

7 жыл бұрын

Sure Hector. Thx for the comment.

@montrose5paulina

7 жыл бұрын

SoThatsHowYouDoThat It was a question not a comment!! Why did I even bother.

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

7 жыл бұрын

You can do it either way Hector. I always start from the bottom.

Hello how much do I know my cost on tile Lets say is 300 sq ft I got job and I dont know how much

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

10 жыл бұрын

For labor? if yes than it also depends if it's floors or walls. You should charge anywhere between $3 a sq ft to $6 a sq ft.( and even HIGHER) It also depends where in the country you are. I charge higher rates, it really doesn't matter to me what other guys are getting.But the prices I mention above seem to be standard.

hey . . what is that black paper?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

7 жыл бұрын

Just tar paper and you don't need to use it.

tar paper? is that a trick for a vapor barrier?

Is there drywall behind the tar paper

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

4 жыл бұрын

No. But there was insulation behind there for sound.

What is the thickness of cement board on wall??

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

4 жыл бұрын

1/2 inch thick.

It's tar paper. There is no need for you to use this, it was for filming purposes that I used it.

Don't you want to cover the edge of the tub/shower tab that screws to the wall?

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

5 жыл бұрын

I Do cover the flange I use tape membrane and thinset and then I cover that with the tile

Circular saw cuts this stuff like butter. Use the correct blade and a dust mask.

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing