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@jinsu0504

4 ай бұрын

in korea instead of those yellow bars, they installed automatically opening screen doors, to prevent suicdal attempts...but its too expensive...the us just signed a 54 million dollar migrant aid progrram, there 80 billion going to ukraine and israel.....we're a big spender with little to no money in our pockets lol...

@SherlockOhms119

4 ай бұрын

Well he did say it has a modern gangway.

@georgevavoulis4758

4 ай бұрын

WRONG !!! TTC transit in Toronto has this openeded trains on Yonge University line

@MichaelLauzon1976

4 ай бұрын

Looks similar with minor variations to Toronto's TTC subway cars that they got around 10 years ago...!

@SimonCU

4 ай бұрын

Americans are impressed ... People in China are laughing.... No wonder Americans are jealous of China.

0:56 Last time I checked, Toronto was still in North America… they’ve had articulated open gangway subway cars for 10+ yrs 😂

@chadsmo

4 ай бұрын

And the sky train in Vancouver which is the only public train I’ve ever rode. I just thought they were all like that. Going to NYC in June and being in a closed off car will be very strange.

@AbimaelLopez-hz3qq

4 ай бұрын

@@chadsmoand hawaii has one one

@Dnttou0497

3 ай бұрын

@@AbimaelLopez-hz3qq Hawaii isn’t in North America.

@aero.l

3 ай бұрын

We've had it for 37 years in Singapore..

@spiralofhope

3 ай бұрын

@@aero.l TIL Singapore is in North America.

0:57 This is the only train in north america to have ganways Toronto rocket has left the chat

@christopherkotsopoulos701

4 ай бұрын

beat me to it. we've had open gangway subway trains here for more than 10 years

@dylankeith2833

4 ай бұрын

Honolulu’s new rail line also has open gangways.

@onshisan

4 ай бұрын

Came here to say this, too. I wonder if there was some “broken telephone” going on there… is there something else about the gangway that’s unique?

@georgegamesandvlogs

4 ай бұрын

youre wrong cuz america is the only country that matters smh

@ms9001

4 ай бұрын

he has been living in a cave forever.

Montreal's subway system has had similar types of trains in service since 2016 and it now represents the majority model of the metro's rolling stock. Because Montreal's subway system is 100% underground, subway surfing has never been an issue.

@michaelsukhu3607

4 ай бұрын

When did Toronto get the open gangway cars? Well before this one in NYC. Obviously this guy hasn't traveled to any other subway system.

@jpp7783

4 ай бұрын

Toronto’s trains (on its busiest line, anyway) have been like this since about 2012 or 2014.

@HotBranch

4 ай бұрын

@@michaelsukhu3607 No need to crap on @HereBeBarr for not knowing the public transit systems in other cities in North America. He's an excellent resource of all things NYC. I don't know when the TTC started with the current style of trains as my last time on the TTC was in 2007. Rather than diss someone, try adding information. It's more polite and helpful.

@noahpettersson3385

4 ай бұрын

New York seems to be so far behind European cities,in Stockholm Sweden we have had these carriages in operation for well over ten years now,with cameras,with the destination signs on the train and platform barriers

@HotBranch

4 ай бұрын

@@noahpettersson3385 Arguably, a 120 year old system that's been treated mostly with an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" attitude, will result in a lag that grows exponentially as technology advances and it's even worse with such an expansive system. I was surprised when MTA Metro cards started being used, as Montreal's system had already been using a similar system many years prior. And none of these issues even begin to touch on where various countries prioritize their infrastructure and the impact that has on mass transit modernization.

Looks like the Hong Kong MTR trains from the 1990s. Good job NYC. Hope they roll this out to all trains ASAP! Love it

@M4TTYN

4 ай бұрын

It'll take forever to get to the main lines and won't slow down crime really.

@Mightymorphinpowerbottoms

4 ай бұрын

@@M4TTYNthank you! Somebody with some sense.

@Sevenfold120

3 ай бұрын

@@Mightymorphinpowerbottoms Obviously, it wont eliminate crime but its still literally better and I dont think anyone is honestly claiming it will eliminate crime. Cameras are better than no cameras. Guards watching it can immediately sent a cop or guard to the train at the next stop. Open gangways are in most modern train cars so its bout time New York upgraded their trains.

@RealCristiano

2 ай бұрын

@@M4TTYN ah, so lets not do anything and whine about crime all day while doing nothing about the issue

Definitely not the first train in North America. Toronto has the accordion patches and a completely open trains.

@Sink9K

4 ай бұрын

so does montreal

@junvarc

4 ай бұрын

Mexico City has had them for more than a decade

@taule

4 ай бұрын

so does Vancouver

@RigoStar

4 ай бұрын

My 4 favourite North American cities in one post. Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal , Mexico City. 😅

@cardenasr.2898

4 ай бұрын

Guadalajara's Line 3 also has those, you can walk from one end of the train to the other, really spacious trains

Cameras don't matter if the criminals are released time and time again.😂

@ceasarandrepont1243

4 ай бұрын

Plus, the criminals could wear masks.

@Americanbadashh

4 ай бұрын

It's more so that majority of crimes will go unsolved.

@KB-ke3fi

4 ай бұрын

Or if they're illegals...

@unconventionalideas5683

4 ай бұрын

That doesn’t happen too much in NYC. That happens more in SF, and that is often because of under-resourcing than anything else.

@ceasarandrepont1243

4 ай бұрын

@@unconventionalideas5683 Sorry, your comment is not true. I live here in New York City and the crime is out of control. The biggest problem is D.S. Bragg not prosecuting these felons because of D.E.I. and not reporting these crimes. Look, what's happening within our subways, the illegal, the aliens, and with the shelter system. What rock are you living under?

Asia systems have had these features for decades. plus more

@dadunce7273

4 ай бұрын

I know right? It’s way better and some Americans are complaining about the change…🤦‍♂️

@Yutani_Crayven

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, not even just Asia. The surveillance state notwithstanding, these are very basic features that have been used all over the world for decades, indeed.

@commuterjack

3 ай бұрын

Yeah! Hell, even Canada has these, not as widespread as it is in other countries though of course.

@god_when333

3 ай бұрын

America is that way behind in these things. They literally are a third world country in a gucci belt😂

@travisgames6383

9 күн бұрын

I don't know about "Asia systems" but the MTA is running trains nearly every 10 minutes to 472 stations 24/7 across a city that in some areas can be really shitty and still mantain it pretty well

Lol Toronto has had open subways that you can go car to car in for like 10 years.

I love how he says "first in America" but Canada has had open cars for years!

@ilsavv

4 ай бұрын

There is no point in comparing Canada to the retarded USA.

@TrueMT7

4 ай бұрын

And The Netherlands SINCE THE START!

@AbimaelLopez-hz3qq

4 ай бұрын

@@TrueMT7and Hawaii has them too

@rodmunch69

4 ай бұрын

Canada is not a real country.

@commuterjack

3 ай бұрын

Perhaps he meant the USA?

This isn't going to stop any crime in NYC subways. Particularly when Alvin Bragg is the criminal's greatest ally and keeps them on the streets.

@alt777-in9lw

4 ай бұрын

Best comment.

@MrKjenningsiii

4 ай бұрын

He's your DA? Damn...

@AnthonyOldhandGarcia

4 ай бұрын

It's like Harvel Dent siding with the Joker in Gotham City.

@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766

4 ай бұрын

They stop subway surfing and have fancy digital ads and green lights 😂😂😂😂😂 wtf

@marcus79nyc

4 ай бұрын

Alvin Bragg has orders to keep the criminals on the street...

As a tourist I appreciate knowing where I am and where my stop is in the lineup. This is a significant improvement over the last scary time I road the subway.

We had this in Toronto for awhile, good to see you're now up to speed New York.

NYC needs a BUKELE solution.

that woman at around 0:09 is wrong lol, toronto already has open gangway trains 😂

@yk_anfly

4 ай бұрын

im still happy that the mta has these cars now, its a great addition and i hope they get more!

@HereBeBarr

4 ай бұрын

That was the governor 😂

@elliectroncake

4 ай бұрын

for 12+ years, too!

@siewheilou399

3 ай бұрын

from 0:02 ~ 0:07, another typical Yankee who lives in early 20th century but thinks that The USA is in the 21st century.

@BLACKSTA361

3 ай бұрын

​@@elliectroncakecool. Cities in europe and asia have hsd it longer than ive been alive

As a Texan kiddo, I have a strong affection for NYC and a deep admiration for the city itself. However, every time I've visited and encountered some of the aggressive and insane characters on the subway, my anxiety shoots through the roof.

@DasNordlicht91

4 ай бұрын

On my subway trips when I visited New York two months ago, I just generally kept to myself and put on my airpods to tune out some of the more “vocal” people on the subways.

@thecalamitysanta6927

4 ай бұрын

same I love NYC so much, but I hate times square, one time a dude dressed as elmo was following me right behind my back uncomfortably close, and there was some dude trying to sell me CDs in the west 4th station (unsuprisingly) he cornered me and was getting real close, I knew it was a scam, so I said I had to go and then he started screaming at me and calling me racist. One thing I've learned in new york: JUST. KEEP. WALKING.

@kjwworldwide

4 ай бұрын

As a New Yorker who lived here most of his life, I can't wait to leave. The quality of life is very low here

@CrabMan2539

4 ай бұрын

@amitysanta6927 Heh the end of that comment reminds me of a time I was visiting NYC in 2017. We weren't exactly in NY when this happened since we were staying in a hotel in Newark since it was cheaper to sleep there and use NJT over a hotel in NY but we were at Newark Penn Station heading back to our hotel (I was 13 at the time with my dad) and some dude asks us for money. We ignore him and he gets louder (doesn't start coming after us but gets louder) until he eventually goes "Thanks Donald Trump!" I learned from that to just ignore what insults strangers yell out at you for not complying with whatever they say because it doesn't really matter.

@Tom-nd1fs

4 ай бұрын

It's a shit hole. I never bother visiting. I would rather visit clean cities like Tokyo, Seoul, or Hong Kong. Edit: I grew up in NYC. I now live in Orlando. I haven't visited in 10 years.

One of the things that I enjoyed about my recent visit to Paris was how wide and well-lit the subway stations were. Yes, some of the more touristy lines have those glass safety panels.

@linuswittstrom4917

4 ай бұрын

Hello! I live in paris and I hate the metro.. dirty, dangerous and almost like a maze.. the newer stations are much more pleasant I agree. But the old ones and all the tunnels in chatelet ect is horrible

@cmandersontenor

4 ай бұрын

@@linuswittstrom4917 I’m so sorry. It was my first time there and the only experiences that I can compare it to are NYC and Chicago. I just felt that the platforms were wider and, despite being underground, had decent lighting. It can be quite a maze.

@linuswittstrom4917

3 ай бұрын

@@cmandersontenor i have never been to the U.S. Do you think that there is less homless ppl in the metro in paris? Or cleaner than U.S? I plan on going to U.S maybe.

@KyrilPG

3 ай бұрын

​@@linuswittstrom4917 ​ Gosh... once again a French self-hater convinced that he lives in a hell hole... Paris metro isn't particularly dangerous, far less than the ones in North America. Chatelet is gigantic and was revamped fairly recently. It's pretty good now and the busiest underground exchange station in the world outside of Asia. I love the Paris metro and have lived in Paris for 40+ years. I've also traveled a lot and if you find Paris metro horrible, you'll hate NYC's subway : ceilings are low, it's often quite dark and the ride is can be quite bumpy. You need to travel, really. ..

Crime surveillance works as deterrent only if there are actual consequences to the criminal activities. With current state of things large number of crimes go unpunished simply because DA is not willing to prosecute. You can put 50 cameras in each car and surveil all you want but it will not change a thing as long as criminals are protected.

London tube user here: the biggest benefit of the open trains is the lowered overcrowding. The complaints people have made are just nimbyism though. Those sliding doors are very rare in London. I can only think of a handful of stations that have them.

@JaguarProJoe

4 ай бұрын

They aren't rare, they cover the entire central section of the Elizabeth line and sections of the Jubilee line and could be implemented in other lines with NTFL

@ruk2023--

4 ай бұрын

So that's less than 20% of all underground tube stations then. What would you consider a rare amount? This seems a very strange thing to get bent out of shape about@@JaguarProJoe

@JaguarProJoe

4 ай бұрын

@@ruk2023-- Oh sorry I didn't mean to come off that way I usually would consider rare to be like 1 or 2 stations, especially since the stations they are in aren't really under-used

@ruk2023--

4 ай бұрын

@@JaguarProJoe shall we compromise and call them uncommon?

@AL5520

4 ай бұрын

​@@JaguarProJoeThe Elizabeth line is not an part of the underground.

The open gangway will allow the bullets to travel even farther once they start flying. 😢😂

@TheRailLeaguer

4 ай бұрын

That’s not how it works.

@savethehumans7460

4 ай бұрын

At least they will have a camera and AI to record it. Instead of issuing conceal and carry licenses.

@benjaminahisrael611

4 ай бұрын

Finally someone that makes sense. Same thing I said. It's a set up

@KatieHuni

4 ай бұрын

Not really, I don’t think the bullet would travel that far because of gravity being played in here, and plus I don’t think the person that’s shooting can get a direct shot in the gangways and ends up hitting the sides of the train or even the bars

@unconventionalideas5683

4 ай бұрын

That’s very, very rare on the Subway nowadays.

I had seen those connected open cars in other countries many years ago. Those barriers in front of the tracks you showed are not that great. They only block some areas. I love that in some countries in Asia, the whole area of the tracks is blocked and it opens only when the train has stopped. I wish they had those in the US. It prevents people from being shoved into the tracks, and also suicides.

@billf4429

4 ай бұрын

I hate to say it, but NYC is old and behind the times when it comes to the subway systems.

@ClaireandNanami

4 ай бұрын

@@billf4429 Not just NYC, but likely the US in general

@Neville60001

4 ай бұрын

It also prevents garbage from being thrown onto the tracks.

@Neville60001

4 ай бұрын

@@ClaireandNanami, there are parts of the United States that have good public transit; don't pat attention to the disaster whores on KZread that love to point out the shortcoming of public transit because 'it's not Europe/Scandinavia/Southeast Asia'.

@xr6lad

4 ай бұрын

It also makes air conditioning of stations a better reality as the platform areas are sealed with air only escaping when the doors open.

If you just kept the criminals in jail you wouldn't have this big problem 80% are repeat offenders

Its not the only one in North America. Toronto has had open subway trains for years.

this was very informative! thanks bro will ride that new train next time 🙏

I was waiting for the Queens-bound E at 42nd street when suddenly the new C train pulled up, so I said the hell with it and took it one stop north. It was quite the thrill ride

How about keeping criminals out of the system and keeping them in jail? NY JUDGES LETTING THE CRIMINALS OUT.

@Ben-jq5oo

4 ай бұрын

All sentences end. Violent offenders are not incarcerated indefinitely. What this type of offender needs is intensive justice rehabilitation/the opportunity to meet and hear their victim(s) if the victim agrees; also compulsory ongoing psych assessment, anger management group therapy and drug rehabilitation if appropriate. The issue is that this increases prison costs hugely. A challenge now compounded by the current move to privatise prisons which then become businesses… Prisons have always failed both offenders and their victims by simply incarcerating offenders before dumping them back into society, many having gained no insight or ability to control their public behaviour.

The biggest annoyance not mentioned of these open cars will be the nonstop breakdancing panhandling. Maybe the NYPD Dance Team can perform on the trains?

@TheRailLeaguer

4 ай бұрын

The Open Gangway trains actually mitigate the problems you mention since it’s easier to escape from them.

@yuukisama2001

3 ай бұрын

I know what you mean. But if there was a way to utilize them to certain areas to do that then it's fine. Like 34th Street. I'd rather have that than what has been happening.

@newday8545

3 ай бұрын

When i saw the gangways, i immediately had the horrible thought of showtime going on for infinite ,like a bad psychedelic trip on your way home from work.

@yuukisama2001

3 ай бұрын

@@newday8545 Yeah but they do that anyway going car to car. You do know that some cities do have open cars. I live in Newark, there is no street performers in the cars. I've only seen it maybe once. Even the pandhandling seemed to stop. I don't know why. PATH systems are closed car that you can walk through. Light rail is open gateway. Amtrak and NJT are open gateway. LIRR systems are open gateway. I mean we already have subways where they took out seats just to have a full area to stand. But I do get what you mean. The only way to stop it is to have officers say you can't do it and relegate it to either Times Square or 34th St. That's how it was in the days and that's where it should go not on the subway.

@newday8545

3 ай бұрын

@@yuukisama2001 i meant more of the hilarity of seeing multiple showtimes going on at the same time lol and how annoying and crazy that would be.

First of its kind in North America? Toronto have had these types of trains for more than a few years now.

@marquisdadon

4 ай бұрын

I think they're made in canada

@FreshJordans507

4 ай бұрын

It's just banter, mate. Us americans like to pretend that Canada is irrelevant. Its sort of our thing.

@chrisdraughn5941

4 ай бұрын

Any time you hear the claim, “first” be very skeptical. More often than not, it’s inaccurate.

@Neville60001

4 ай бұрын

@@marquisdadon, these are Kawasaki trains made in Japan, IIRC.

@marquisdadon

4 ай бұрын

@@Neville60001 thanks for the info

These "innovations" have been standard in East Asian subway systems in China, Japan, and Korea for 15 years. They also have full platform screen doors to block people from being pushed. You can make the subways super modern all you want. It's not going to stop the crazy/weird people from riding them. If you want less crime, you need to live in a society with consequences for antisocial behavior. And also you need an education system that teaches people to behave properly, both of which the US doesn't really have.

@dubreil07

4 ай бұрын

New York City trains aren’t uniform so having screen doors is impractical for now. Only the number lines could have them and the L train since it’s runs solo

@ilsavv

4 ай бұрын

@@dubreil07 What a diverse society! Nothing is uniform.

every new yorker knows to avoid that one empty subway car. with this new setup, the entire train will be too smelly to ride.

@TheRailLeaguer

4 ай бұрын

That’s not how any of this works.

@JerryThomas-fg9ms

4 ай бұрын

@@TheRailLeaguer assuming you're actually a new yorker who knows what i'm talking about, explain how the smell of piss and sh!t from one car will not permeate throughout the entire train. if you're not from NY, then know your role and shut your mouth because you have no idea what my original comment was about.

@shadowslayer9988

4 ай бұрын

​​@@JerryThomas-fg9msReal internet tuff guy ain't you 🤡 😂😂😂😂

@jaydenphilbertmunipals9089

4 ай бұрын

I've ridden this model and it had a homeless person on it. There was stink in that specific car but only for a couple of minutes after the guy left due to the ventilation. And it didn't even spread through the entire car.

@TheRailLeaguer

4 ай бұрын

@@jaydenphilbertmunipals9089 You beat me right to it. Not to mention that the Open Gangway cars do allow for one to easily escape from the person in question easily.

Great video, Jon, and good coverage. Stay safe!

@HereBeBarr

4 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

George Jetson would be proud of this technology! I really like the openness of the cars! There is just one thing though, are there any improvements for the visually impaired? Overall very nice update.

These cars remind me of the Beijing and Seoul subways. This is much nicer.

Train in Japan Implemented all features 20 years ago. They have advertising TV, free Wi-Fi, and outlet in train. They also have automatic barrier door on every platform.

New York City, ain’t Japan. We can blame the MTA, but also the ignorance of all of us messes up the subway experience for each other!

@kwbaby4297

4 ай бұрын

That part

Montreal have exactly the same since 2016. We had same questions at beginning but it turn that very handy to be able to walk throughout the entire train.

Sadly, technology can't fix people. Too many of the people who needs the subway (if it close, they wouldn't be able to move around) don't want to pay for it thinking the "government"/State has to pay for it.They need to start treating the subway like you would treat your car: pay your fare!

@fabijans5440

4 ай бұрын

What do you mean?! The state is here to pay for its infrastucture! And do you really want to put more cars on the road by making other modes of transit more expensive?

We've introduced an open carriage metro like this in Sydney the last few years (and still expanding) and it feels so eery too use! Just seeing all the way down the next carriage and the one after and seeing so many people takes adjusting too. We're very accustomed to double decker suburban trains here and the open layout + having one level trains takes to time to get used too but it's great. And so modern.

Used several metro trains like these in Europe and was in NY last week. I prefer the open vehicles. Feels less crowded.

The R211T’s aren’t the first subway cars in North America to have open gangways, both the Toronto Rocket’s of the Toronto subway and the MPM-10’s of the Montreal Metro entered service in the early 2010’s with fully open gangway trains, followed by the ART Mark III’s on the Vancouver Skytrain in the mid-2010’s. On top of that, the Mexico City Metro has had open gangway trains since 2005.

@dubreil07

4 ай бұрын

She’s probably meant USA

@cycloid2326

4 ай бұрын

@@dubreil07 Continental US, the Hawaiian’s got open gangway trains first.

@Peter-mj6lz

4 ай бұрын

Tbh I have read NY subways actually had the first open ended gangway cars but they weren't practical at the time of service.

Thank you for making this video Jon ! I'm looking forward to my fifth visit to the Big Apple!

Those corners on the platform barriers is a hazard in waiting.

@xr6lad

4 ай бұрын

Only for the stupid .

Yes I was on the new train Monday so clean a breath of fresh air

Thanks for this video John! I can't wait to make my first visit to NYC!

@newyoricanlevitenyrican9592

4 ай бұрын

When you do come to NYC, make sure to do the following, be aware of your surroundings at all times, avoid solitary areas, don't carry cash, make sure to carry some form of protection, trust no one, don't make eye contact with strangers, don't walk around flashing fancy jewelry...

@tomives3298

4 ай бұрын

Thank you, I'm a fairly big bloke with a bald head but I will definitely heed this advice@@newyoricanlevitenyrican9592

@xr6lad

4 ай бұрын

@@newyoricanlevitenyrican9592lol. All things I had no problems about so sounds very exaggerated.

@newyoricanlevitenyrican9592

4 ай бұрын

@@xr6lad practical advice coming from a current resident of NYC, is not an exaggeration...

@alt777-in9lw

4 ай бұрын

@@newyoricanlevitenyrican9592 In other word.........stay home!

Loving the new cars! Hadn't heard about them. Thanks for posting.

Iam surprised New York has not got trains like this in 2024.

I’ve lived in NY my entire life and I can personally say people evade fares because the system is just not worth it, overpriced, dirty, rat infested, barely any safety, and what small changes we get move slower than molasses, while the price hikes continue regardlessly. While the MTA constantly cries about annual losses they take in billions, and are too busy enriching themselves versus actually innovating the system to the degree of other countries. The city’s corruption has no bounds, and just to lay a quarter mile of track in the city, is in the tens of millions which is ridiculous compared to what other countries do for fractions of our budgets. Even these new models are dated by at least 15 years with exception of the camera system, which should have been a given at least a decade ago as security systems are drastically cheap. Even cameras off network but constantly recording as a backup to daily activity would have been better than waiting for a system that is accesible in real time, and that’s only now being discussed. Compare what the city has given to incoming migrants already and ask yourself what the train system would look like if they received that money.

@benjaminahisrael611

4 ай бұрын

Right I'm a new yorker of 37 years and I noticed when the city stopped fining ppl for break laws like when Giuliani and Bloomberg was mayor or hell stated to break loose. I remember the days of ppl getting tickets for placing their bag on the empty seat preventing others to sit or spiting gum on the ground this was early 2000s

This didn't age to well. Look what happened this morning to the man killed by the 3 that are running loose 😳

I randomly got on one last night! Is very impressed. We are so far behind other countries in nice subway trains. It's about time!

I literally just visited NYC for the first time last week, and found the hardest thing about the subway trains was not knowing what stations were coming up next (you can barely understand or make out what the announcements on the trains are saying) and where they are headed. Most other subway systems have digital signs saying what station is next, but not NYC. and when you try to look outside the windows you can't always see what stop you're at. It's terrible! Also the maps that are few and far between on the trains, are generic and don't show if you're on an "express" train and not stopping at all stops etc. It's a nightmare for tourists (and I'm pretty savvy in subway systems having travelled to europe (paris, rome etc) and London and sydney and Tokyo, and they were all fairly easy to navigate.

This isn’t the only train in North America like this 💀 Toronto had these open gangways for years

Amsterdam and Rotterdam (Netherlands) have bedn like this for 40 years! SINCE THE START! I cannot believe how nyc is soo far behind.

Love your subway videos, Jon! You gotta give us more!

John I love your video! Super informative, interesting and lots of great update information! If and when I get back to New York, I’d love to hire you to be my tour guide!

@cindee1794

4 ай бұрын

I would also love to hire him as a personal tour guide, but he doesn't do that. Yet...

The sliding door setup solves the most problems. Good example is the Airtrain in JFK to Jamaica etc. The argument that things cost money is a boring argument, and the argument that America's infrastructure, and NYC's subway system in particular, needs an upgrading is no longer an argument.

@eriklakeland3857

4 ай бұрын

With that said, cost control is a serious issue and if NYC transit can’t get that under control, there’s no hope to actually modernizing the existing system - let alone getting desperately needed expansions.

@MagellanandGreyhound

4 ай бұрын

@@eriklakeland3857 agreed. No one at any level seems to understand this or get it under control. Just us plebs 😉

i love this channel, i visited in august and it helped a lot

Thank you for bringing us some good news about New York! Love these new trains with all the cameras.

Very nice to know that they have surveillance cameras on a few of the new york city subway trains!

I actually rode the train recently. I was very impressed. It was very spacious inside. As far as the door for the inner portion, it has it's good and bad. You might have to see a lot of people, but I can actually not be locked in a car either without risking falling on tracks is good too. Very spacious on the inside, and you felt a sense of more relaxing on the ride. The cameras is a plus. The train line is a rough one, trust.

I love that hes so excited about this even tho this has been the norm in europe for decades

@bigblackron

4 ай бұрын

because those systems were built decades ago. this system was built a century ago. its easier when your starting with a fresh slate.

@philippemilne951

4 ай бұрын

@bigblackron except that most European subway systems were built at the same time if not before the NYC subway, and before most other North American subway systems

@bigblackron

4 ай бұрын

@@philippemilne951 London is definitely older, but most European metros were built after WWII. Transit in the US is generally trash, but the NYC subway looks old bc it is old. These narratives of euro-superiority just serve to hide an ugly fact; Governments in the US have intentionally underfunded transit for decades to undermine social equality. Besides, compared to east Asian transit... well I dont even need to finish that sentence.

Love that idea of green lighting around the doors. On the London underground an announcement is made to tell you which side.

I also find the London Subway to be the best, so fast, so organized, so clean and safe.

Really enjoyable and a massive step forward

Thank for sharing ❤

You would love the trains in Tokyo if you like this train.

Great video. Actually, the subway trains in Toronto have the open gangway.

I think fully open walk thru trains are the way to go. One police officer can guard the entire train it’s also better for reducing overcrowding as people can spread out along the whole train. End cars tend to be less busy than centre cars, but if it’s all open then people can spread out more. Not sure if I agree with the 15 second delay at emergency exits, because in a real emergency every second counts.

Still yet to ride one of those, great walkthrough!

@HereBeBarr

4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

It's about time. NYC should be a leader in innovation and technology . And the NYC subway should be part of that.

@ilsavv

4 ай бұрын

NYC has fallen too far behind many Asian and European countries. It will take decades to catch up, especially now, that tax money are pouring out for anything but American needs.

As a native New Yorker, the door side indicators are my favorite thing. I always second guess myself even in stations I know well, so now I'll know for certain!

The nyc subway us still 25 years behind Asia Tourists should be warned to avoid bad stops (most of brookyn and the bronx) Also when tourists or non locals come to astoria, they should be warned not to get off the train as astoria is not for them😊😊

@goldthegoldenpenguin326

4 ай бұрын

the bronx aint bad what you talking about and astoria is a nice place but its not like top tier level for tourists

@guydreamr

4 ай бұрын

Avoiding most of Brooklyn? Are you stuck in the 70s?

I started watching this assuming it was a parody. Didn’t realize they were sincere!!

I rode the new train a few days ago, its pretty neat

Hong Kong's MTR (Mass Transit Railway) is thirty years ahead of NYC when it comes to commuting trains and foolproof protection of commuters from the train tracks. The system works superbly.

I love the new look and upgrade to the train!

What's the point of cameras when criminals aren't even prosecuted, even when there's cell phone footage? Maybe so they can continue charging the good samaritans?

I would disagree with your claim that NYC as the first walk through carriages in North America México City also has connecting carriages on one of their metro lines for almost 10 years now.

Let’s hope 🤞

Our train systems in montreal with the STM have this for a long time

The easy solution to reducing subway shovings is to remind riders to stay back from the edge of the platform (e.g. 10 feet) until the train comes to a stop. This will also allow the passengers to exit faster and allow the entering passengers unrestricted access to the doors. Installing a barrier just encourages people to lean against them and start congesting the edge of the platform.

It's like watching KZread in ages past. At least New York is kind of catching up, but there's still a lot to criticise. For one, make the fire exit gate sound an automatic alarm when used, and don't have it directly adjacent to the turnstiles.

Toronto Canada has had these trains for years, Great idea!!

Love your videos! But Toronto been had this style of subway trains as well as Montreal 😉

Toronto’s entire subway car fleet has had almost all these features for years. Welcome to the 21st century, New York.

Cameras are not necessary as you can count on your fellow passengers to take selfies if you get killed.

@dsxa918

4 ай бұрын

Police are not necessary because two guys from Reddit are putting cans of ravioli in socks and swinging

This new subway car reminds me of Montreal's new Azur subways cars. They're great.

it's still jawdroppingly shocking how the lifeline of NYC was left to deteriorate to this state when the rest of the world has left it in the dust. dont get me wrong, won't stop using it when visiting, it is a novelty afterall. but i cant imagine having to depend on this system on a daily basis for work and living, especially after having experienced the Singaporean and HK networks.

Thanks. This was helpful.

London has had the open gangway for years lol, especially for the C stock

3:35 - I like all those complaints. I'm from Berlin where we've had completely walkable subway trains for almost 30 years, but it's only thanks to New Yorkers that I now understand how lucky I've been not to be burned alive in one of the daily subway car fires.

Bad idea with this open pathway inside the train as a new yorker of 37 years the closed door ways protected you from the drama in the other car. Now they are making it easier for the erratic person to have free access to the whole train . If there is a shooting the bullet can hit more ppl. The thing with London they are more relax and law abiding than nyc. They just get in the train and go where they have to go. I only saw one bigger on the london underground and he was respectful and not erratic. They follow rules. Now since gentrification and de balsio and the lax rules new comers are just doing what the hell they want I remember nyc in the late 90s and early 2000s and ppl were well behaved because of all the fines Giuliani and Bloomberg was giving out for literally everything lol

The Sea Beach (N train) used to have a pass thru walkway connecting cars the entire train. It was a pivoting unit (not doors) that could be turned for passing from car to car or turned to block access. It was boss. I'm old enough to remember subway cars with exposed fans (very safe, not), bare light bulbs, porcelain handholds and wicker seats. A token cost fifteen cents when I was a kid. Did you know that transit light bulbs had a reverse thread to prevent riders from stealing bulbs to use at home?

Love how you're celebrating something most transit systems in the country have had for over 15 years.

Those trains with all those features we have in Hannover and other cities in Germany since over 15 years.

Been all over the world, this is quite the standard and if not less than in many countries.

These changes are telling & reflect all of the problems of NYC. Much happier in Westchester where I can let my guard down

Toronto has had all of these features on its subway cars for years: gangways, next stop, which side to exit, cameras, etc. Perhaps these new cars came from when Andy Byford went to NYCTA from TTC. I was surprised NYC hadn't had these things yet.

I'd say NYC is behind from my POV like in Singapore, Korea, Japan, some parts of Europe, but this gives me hope that NYC is finally modernizing like the rest of the world. Also, in some countries they have each car connected like the accordian way but have a door to separate the cars still.

Watching the other cars shift and sway when going around the tight turns was spooky as heck. Can't believe they managed to get the open gangways working lol.

@TheRailLeaguer

4 ай бұрын

This is what years of collecting data produces.

Make a booth that has 2 doors and where you have to step inside to scan your card, and then the backdoor closes before the front one opens. You can't beat that!