INSIDE LOOK: Top Toys - Who are these guys and why are they selling He-Man toys?

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Scott ToyGuru Neitlich reviews a brief look at the South American toy distributor Top Toys and the influence they have had on the MOTUC toy line.

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  • @HunterKnightCustoms
    @HunterKnightCustoms4 жыл бұрын

    Great info! And thanks for featuring my custom Platino at 10:07!

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was online to show off!

  • @cruizerdave

    @cruizerdave

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good work!

  • @ScareglowSkull
    @ScareglowSkull2 жыл бұрын

    Also being from Argentina, let me tell you that when Fuerza T was released and massive retailed they were a frowned upon by most collectors and pegwarmed for a while

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is really interesting! Thank you for the hands on the ground info

  • @Canoby
    @Canoby3 жыл бұрын

    I really like these guys. I could see them as being background characters in MOTU

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cant disagree but for legal reason likely no to see them again.

  • @Canoby

    @Canoby

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spectorcreative1872 Yeah I can't blame the law taking types from shooting that down all things considered. Too bad they didn't get permission to put those toys out. That was some inspired reuse/slight retooling of available molds

  • @chrisj2991

    @chrisj2991

    3 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't Mattel technically "acquire" these characters since they were produced illegally using their character designs and licensed molds? Top Toys didnt actually purchase their own molds, they were Mattel's originals. After Estrela of Brazil was done producing their MOTU line they sent the molds to Top Toys as per their agreement with Mattel- thats why when Mattel put out the anniversary line in the late 90s they had to recast some parts from vintage production figures to make new molds because the originals were "lost" in Argentina according to Top Toys, and any other secondary molds had been sent to Leo toys of India...... Same thing happened with Hasbro and GI Joe- the beloved 1985 Snake Eyes has never been replicated because the mold is still in Brazil and couldn't be located. Thats why we have like a million different 84 Firefly repaints but zero 85 Snake Eyes. Same with version 1 Destro- his mold was lost in Argentina.

  • @Canoby

    @Canoby

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chrisj2991 See Scott’s response to my question

  • @TREW24

    @TREW24

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol, he-man's the background character now

  • @ivane5110
    @ivane51103 жыл бұрын

    I love the varients that came out of South America! This almost tops Capitan Rayo. Reminds me of customizing early GI Joes just by head and limb swaps

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    I loved doing that too!

  • @happiaxxident
    @happiaxxident2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the vid and wow - those customs are beautiful!

  • @vansnakenstein5149
    @vansnakenstein51493 жыл бұрын

    I remember seeing these figures at a mall dollar store in southern Illinois several years ago.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Man you should have bought em all up. They go for big bucks now I hear

  • @JCetto.2612
    @JCetto.26124 жыл бұрын

    That's what happened with G.I.Joe and the Plastirama in Argentina and Estrela in Brazil... Owned the molds and created their own figure inside the G.I.Joe universe. Heck! Even Hasbro updated those figures in the 25th anniversary International figures sub-line... This is what happened here in Perú with Drago and X-4... Huge oversized transformers Bootlegs made by Plasticos HUDE. Really cool video! Thank you for this blast from the past!

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not sure, I'll have to do some more research

  • @chrisj2991

    @chrisj2991

    3 жыл бұрын

    Estrela in Brazil created close to 40+ unique GI Joe figures for their country. Some stand outs are the Tiger Force Airtight & Shipwreck, Cobra de Aco (Snake Eyes head chromed out on a black and yellow Flash body with that nice cobra logo on his chest!), Cobra Invasor (version 1 Snake Eyes with a silver cobra logo chest stamp- yes, Snake Eyes was a bad guy in Brazil!), and they even released some vehicle drivers MOC with unique artwork like Overlord and Destro version 2. Estrela also produced figures for the US market- Slaughters Marauders, Heavy Metal, the mail order version of Quick Kick, etc... While Plastirama of Argentina did not have as many unique releases, some that they did put out are standouts of the GI Joe line worldwide and the most sought after- just google the "Argen 7"- Cobra Mortal will blow your mind! Then theres also the Red repaint of Storm Shadow named 'Satan' and the black repaint named 'Ninja-Ku'!

  • @JCetto.2612

    @JCetto.2612

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chrisj2991 of course! Estrela (Brazil) and Plastirama (Argentina) created lots of original characters that Hasbro re-realeased as part of the International Heroes sub-line in the 25th anniversary! That was the whole point of my comment... Good to see there's people who still remember that!

  • @JurassicRod
    @JurassicRod4 жыл бұрын

    Cy-Chop always looked like a fuerza-t design.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, he kinda did

  • @brunosipavicius7867
    @brunosipavicius78673 жыл бұрын

    I loved them. Cheers from São Paulo, Brazil. In Brazil the company that distributed hasbro, kennel and Mattel toys in 1980's was Estrela (star)-if I'm not wrong.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm not 100% up on all of these companies but I think you are right

  • @loveandlightning4877
    @loveandlightning48774 жыл бұрын

    Some of those customs are fantastic! Great video 😁

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not customs. Illegal part use!

  • @JamesChessman
    @JamesChessman3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, it was great seeing these mash-ups for the first time!!

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Crazy stuff right?

  • @JamesChessman

    @JamesChessman

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spectorcreative1872 Yeah this video is a blast! I love it that MOTU has mysterious unknown forms, like this!

  • @Beedo_Sookcool
    @Beedo_Sookcool4 жыл бұрын

    Shame. I would've loved MOTUC versions of these guys.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Many have said that!

  • @ryansargent661
    @ryansargent6613 жыл бұрын

    Great video! It looks like I can grab some of the extra Origins figures and make some customs of these. Further supporting the new line ( while the big money goes to filling holes in the classics line, lol)

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    If only. But hey Mattel is out there!

  • @chrisj2991
    @chrisj29913 жыл бұрын

    "Black Blood" Mosquitor is a myth. They were all red blood just the formula they used for the first run of them oxidizes turning the red to a black or even brownish color. An unintended variant. Theres a video by 'Madhunter' who interviews the creators of Top Toys and they discuss the variants and the Fuerza-T bootlegs and how that line basically ran them out of business. Now all that Top Toys does these days is translate board games into Spanish. Just make sure to turn the subtitles on, definitely a video worth watching! 😉 There was going to be a second wave of Fuerza-T as well. You can find images of the prototypes by googling. Wish they happened, there was a really cool Skeletor who was red with green tinted clear limbs and gold armor!

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    A myth? Like Unicorns and cows?

  • @Cyril29a

    @Cyril29a

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@spectorcreative1872 Those aren't mythical. Have you never had Unicorn steak? It tastes great and a few hours later you poop rainbows

  • @culeroconnor1686
    @culeroconnor16864 жыл бұрын

    Funy how people in the states think america is the name of their own country. The name of your country is United states. Argentina is also America as well as many other countries

  • @xxMorgen_Ronny_Doy

    @xxMorgen_Ronny_Doy

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol so true

  • @omegator6893

    @omegator6893

    4 жыл бұрын

    South America

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    I prefer Vespuchi land myself.

  • @coleccionandofigurasdeaccion
    @coleccionandofigurasdeaccion4 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Just to add something, when you say distributor, are you saying that they only repacked the toys? Top Toys actually made many lines of figures, with mold from Mattel and Kenner, but made in Argentina, as far as a know. That's where some color variants and other stuff came. For example some (I'm not sure is all) Kenner vintage SW figures has no peg holes because they used another type of mold/manufacturing process.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes they actually made the toys for Mattel and Kenner

  • @kronoman
    @kronoman3 жыл бұрын

    Hi ! Great video! Just some more info> Carnivor has the Stratos armor (but not the wings, even if they are on the card art), Felinor has the regular version with Skeletor armor, and a variant with Mer Man armor (golden). The Faker you show with the make up is not a Top Toys , but a Leo Toys from India, the Faker of Argentina is just blue, no make up and no orange staff or loincloth. Cheers!

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good points on specifics! Such an odd/fun mix and match of parts

  • @MonstersOfTheUniverse
    @MonstersOfTheUniverse3 жыл бұрын

    Nice video! This is interesting! I’ve never heard of this line! I would approach the pronunciation of Fuerza probably as : FWER-sah

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    My ability to pronounce is limited

  • @AntiDecepticonCampaign
    @AntiDecepticonCampaign3 жыл бұрын

    Very cool, the amazing impact He-MAN echoes in eternity.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    It never ends really!

  • @nujevad28
    @nujevad282 жыл бұрын

    With how customizable the Origins line is, recreating these would be a blast.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh I know right!

  • @shtdaprdtr
    @shtdaprdtr2 жыл бұрын

    Aside from distribution problems, the main reason top toys produced MOTU figures in the 80s was because a lot of south American governments didn't allow imports or foreign companies to occupy any space in their countries...toys could only be produced by native manufacturers...so Mattel got by by giving them molds

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice info!

  • @ZeroAnalogy
    @ZeroAnalogy2 жыл бұрын

    I had yet to discover the Spector Creative channel until late summer of 2020 after this video was released. It is great to visit these gems after becoming a fan of the channel. Your recording sounded like it improved. Was it a newer microphone or perhaps sound deadening in what passes for a studio?

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    OH yes I got a much better mike since the early vides!

  • @Mighty-VizioN
    @Mighty-VizioN2 жыл бұрын

    It seems like the whole purpose of origins is so that we can create these figures that was bootlegs and fan customs. We have almost everything we need to create these figures within Motu origins. No need for recasting and minimal painting required. The original origins He-Man head sculpt works great for Platino, the main hero of this line. And if you can custom cast pieces yourself. This will be easy. All of us who took advantage of the Moto origins clearance will have a project to work on.

  • @PozerAdultRacingTeam
    @PozerAdultRacingTeam3 жыл бұрын

    Those are some cool figures. Wow.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Creative, but not licensed or legal!

  • @stevengerou7914
    @stevengerou79143 жыл бұрын

    I shop in a lot of odd market for things like this. Fuerza-T is not the only one doing this with He-Man molds, and TF as well, some of them completely compatible with there combiner connections even if the rest isn't available. Like the helicopter from the Protectabots. The He-Man ones I've seen them over and over in Dollar Tree and even occasionally in Wal-Mart next to the 100th concept if not mold rip-offs of G. I. joe.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is amazing how much this happens. And a lot of companies just let it go oddly.

  • @pledgestone
    @pledgestone3 жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoy! Feel free to share with friends on social media. It helps!

  • @MiKeMiDNiTe-77
    @MiKeMiDNiTe-773 жыл бұрын

    Love the Techno guy.. these guys are wild

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Crazy stuff right!

  • @superermac55
    @superermac553 жыл бұрын

    Man i love the Fuerza-t stuff. Had made my own customs out of fodder vintage parts I have

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    This was truly a wacky line.

  • @superermac55

    @superermac55

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spectorcreative1872 it truly was. But that wackiness has its charm

  • @stephanbasener4808
    @stephanbasener48084 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. They would have been nice MOTUC figures indead.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    4 жыл бұрын

    There are always customs!

  • @mangamegs
    @mangamegs3 жыл бұрын

    You got any info on remco and their motu copycat lines? Thank you for these. Informative and entertaining.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have that video in mind to put together soon!

  • @DaiAtlus79
    @DaiAtlus793 жыл бұрын

    11:45 - would love to own that figure!!!

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Many would!

  • @obsoleteworlds
    @obsoleteworlds3 жыл бұрын

    Never say never. If you'd told me in the 80's that I'd be playing licensed Giana Sisters games on Nintendo platforms in 2020 I wouldn't have believed it either.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its true. Amazing how the universe can manifest.

  • @nowwac6028
    @nowwac60283 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting content. By the way have you heard about the new toyline Power-Con intends to developp next year ? Fans are supposed to use polls to shape this line from start to finish. The convention itself supporting exclusively He-Man & She-Ra I couldn't help myself but seeing some sort of official un-offcial MOTU knock-off line with Mattel's blessing. Anyways, thanks for generating more and more constructive debates around our beloved brand. PS: Didn't know you could speak french ! OnlyOneSkeletor

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    No I had not heard of that power con line. Mattel is doing this in conjunction with Power con? I started learning French when I worked for Jada and Ent Earth. Each had a 1.5 hour commute each way and I wanted to maximize my time!

  • @nowwac6028

    @nowwac6028

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spectorcreative1872 Je te reconnais bien là: optimisation en toute chose ! :) Quant à la ligne lancée prochainement par Power-Con, en réalité, il n'est nullement fait mention de Motu(c) tout restant encore à définir par la seule volonté des fans et du poids des sondages affiliés. Mais de la manière dont a réagi l'intéressé (JVS3) via le forum, il est clair que cette opération vise à démontrer, dans un premier temps du moins, la capacité qu'aurait la convention à répondre à l'éventualité du retour de la gamme Classics en usant de son réseau, si la question venait à se poser de nouveau. Mattel étant à mon sens, plus prompt à déléguer en la personne de Val Staples que Super7 à ce jour. Aux vues des évènements récents en tous cas. J'adjoins le lien en question, il te suffira de faire défiler le curseur une fois sur place, c'est en bas de page. Bonne lecture ! Tony Hoffmann aka OnlyOneSkeletor thepower-con.com/

  • @MrMark-hm9lk
    @MrMark-hm9lk3 жыл бұрын

    Cool piece of motu history.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed. An odd piece if that, but a piece none the same

  • @killshacklefoot
    @killshacklefoot2 жыл бұрын

    I might have missed something. But why did the company that made Fuezra T figures have the vintage? Molds

  • @ADAM_COLLECTS

    @ADAM_COLLECTS

    4 ай бұрын

    because; mattel, Hasbro, Kenner, etc, would send samples of the tools to Top Toys so they could make the molds themselves and thusly produce the toys and then made these 20 years later

  • @elextrano7597
    @elextrano75972 жыл бұрын

    Omg i missed this videos. People realy love He man in latino america if you market it well.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    That they do. Big Jim too

  • @rolandkatsuragi
    @rolandkatsuragi3 жыл бұрын

    Well with modular feature of Origins, I think it would be pretty easy to recreate those counterfeit characters.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Easy yes, but legally likely not.

  • @DrethNET
    @DrethNET3 жыл бұрын

    How did I miss this video?! By the way the line's name translates to T-Force Defenders of the Earth. Kinda alluring more towards G-Force Guardians of Space than MOTU.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't know? But there are many cool older videos to see!

  • @robd1329
    @robd13293 жыл бұрын

    ...this was a very intresting upload! Once you got to the part of showing the Fuerza T figures...i laughed outload! Those are some crazyyy madeup bootleg figures! Im curious if kids outside the U.S. actually collected these.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are indeed!

  • @marcosnajera7384
    @marcosnajera73844 жыл бұрын

    GOD THAM TOY GURU ! You could of use any of the fuerza figures and name it spector and be one of the coolest figured in the line.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well I do my best

  • @markofthebeast6447
    @markofthebeast64473 жыл бұрын

    Argentina is part of America if you didn’t know

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, and America (South and North) is named for Vespuci Americana who was the first to "discover" South America and both continents were named for him.

  • @elextrano7597
    @elextrano75972 жыл бұрын

    10:30 thats sounds like a legal nigthmere. But yea they are cool xD rigth now i just want to get Sun man when if comes out. I was asking for him and i want it so will get it. But i would love to get a Pantano

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    indeed

  • @FedePunx
    @FedePunx4 жыл бұрын

    I have to say that kkk (cobra khan camuflado) is not a variant, its a character created by top toys!

  • @Rocket1377

    @Rocket1377

    4 жыл бұрын

    Originally that was true, but currently (according his MOTU Classics bio) he is just an upgraded version of Kobra Khan.

  • @FedePunx

    @FedePunx

    4 жыл бұрын

    Adam Harris yes, i was wrong skeletor gave kk the power of camuflage

  • @FedePunx

    @FedePunx

    4 жыл бұрын

    But its not a variant as we know as collectors

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes but in Classics it became a variant of the character

  • @FedePunx

    @FedePunx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spector Creative besides that, really cool video and great info 🙂

  • @mjbeezer
    @mjbeezer4 жыл бұрын

    I thought the Faker was Leo Faker from India?

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is a different release

  • @mjbeezer

    @mjbeezer

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spectorcreative1872 oh! Ok

  • @JamesWilliams-ge4gq

    @JamesWilliams-ge4gq

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your right the picture shown is the leo india version as he had a black mask.. The top toys was a normal hard head. Also the top toys faker did not come with the skeletor orange armour.. Only india leos did. You can find out more from me on Facebook motu jamez

  • @firesoulrocker
    @firesoulrocker2 жыл бұрын

    I saw them years ago. Just thought ripe offs. Was looking at the time. Man wow.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    Right?

  • @firesoulrocker

    @firesoulrocker

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@spectorcreative1872 i was at a huge swapmeet flea market.

  • @Mr.Reckless
    @Mr.Reckless3 жыл бұрын

    I have a question are these top toys collectibles just like the Mattel action figures in the United States?

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    The official ones were more or less the same. A few figures had some color differences and package changes but 90% the same. They were licensed. At least the MOTU stuff was. Not the Ferraza T items that illegally used the tools.

  • @Mr.Reckless

    @Mr.Reckless

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spectorcreative1872 I been a huge MOTU fan and I never saw these action figures. But I like them. Thank you for replying to my question.

  • @artbythecoco
    @artbythecoco3 жыл бұрын

    Mattel should take a page from Japanese gunpla and just come out with some kind of build-a-figure-ish line of character parts and accessories. After watching this, I kinda want to buy a bunch of MOTU guys and kitbash my own characters.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Origins works like that to a degree. At least what I have heard.

  • @Mattmurdockk431
    @Mattmurdockk4312 жыл бұрын

    BIOS on the card are full of typos. Really funny.😅

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    I imagine they are

  • @somarriba333
    @somarriba3333 жыл бұрын

    Well. Good thing the MOTU Origins have swappable parts.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good thing!

  • @Jose_creative_TV
    @Jose_creative_TV Жыл бұрын

    imagine they add this in origins like the rulers of the sun did

  • @scottmefford6917
    @scottmefford69173 жыл бұрын

    I think a better staff accessory for Plantino would have been either the one for Evil-Lyn or The Sorceress.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well I don't think Top Toys was looking into anything beyond how can we do this cheap and without Mattel noticing!

  • @AustynSN

    @AustynSN

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spectorcreative1872 Giving your main villain the same iconic power staff as the main villain of the line you're kind of stealing from will get noticed.

  • @essex4515
    @essex45153 жыл бұрын

    Would Super 7 have been able to make them? On the back of Slamurai's box it looked like Felinor in the shadows. Always had me thinking....

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    I highly doubt anyone would. Legal issues and all

  • @jzachery
    @jzachery4 жыл бұрын

    I am still ACHING for these in Classics!!!

  • @Beedo_Sookcool

    @Beedo_Sookcool

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to get to them, too. But maybe in a couple of years, after I've managed to save up, first. ;)

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Many are.

  • @gsmadmax100
    @gsmadmax1003 жыл бұрын

    is 3d printing lowering tooling cost yet?

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    See here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lnVt18SIdq60YJs.html

  • @Despondencymusic
    @Despondencymusic3 жыл бұрын

    What could Top Toys legally do with those molds? Would it have been possible to modify them enough to make toys that didn't resemble the MOTU characters? Did they make this side toy line at the same time that they were producing MOTU? I know you said 2003.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nothing, Without a license they were not suppose to use them

  • @user-do2ev2hr7h
    @user-do2ev2hr7h3 жыл бұрын

    Apologies if I missed it in a previous video, but what makes a figure like Camo Khan different from these as far as being able to be produced in a line like classics?

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Camo Kahn was approved by Mattel as part of Top Toys MOTU releases. The Ferraza T figures released in 2000 were not.

  • @rbl3d
    @rbl3d3 жыл бұрын

    It's unclear what really happened between Toptoys and Mattel. I saw a video with Toptoys employees who claimed that Mattel's lawyers couldn't do anything to them, because at that time they sold 200X and not vintage. Still others say that Mattel stopped production of the "Fuerza-T".

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    In the end it was a mess

  • @AustynSN
    @AustynSN3 жыл бұрын

    Part of me understands why Mattel didn't allow this since it could in theory would take from retool combinations available to them. On the other hand, had they worked out some sort of licensing kickback deal, they could have ended up with a bit more money for no work, and maybe even a few new characters for the main line. Maybe just say that all of the Fuerza-T characters were from a different planet in the MOtUniverse. More characters, no work needed.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    While you are right in theory, I think the points that go against this are the fact that it sets a bad precedent AND its the whole "is the juice worth the squeeze". Will potential sales be worth all the work to make this work. ;-)

  • @mikeweaver6532
    @mikeweaver65323 жыл бұрын

    Wow! I would have thought if they bought the tooling and as long as the characters were NOT MOTU I don't see why they couldn't keep doing it.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nope, just on loan. ;-)

  • @sitoudien9816
    @sitoudien98163 жыл бұрын

    Can you explain why Mattel sold Max Steele only in central and south America? Some of their awesome 12 inch villians came from someone's perverted nightmares.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Retailers in the US were not interested. Max Steel has a much larger fan base south of the border due to the heritage of 12" toys and the Big Jim line.

  • @TheCrabbyArchives
    @TheCrabbyArchives3 жыл бұрын

    Tekno looking like Robocop crossed with The Tick

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha!

  • @masterfarr8265
    @masterfarr82652 жыл бұрын

    maybe we'll get them in origins

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well they did make sun man

  • @marcolindo1645
    @marcolindo16453 жыл бұрын

    Good video but that Faker is Leo India not Top Toys

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I messed up on that detail.

  • @syadkir
    @syadkir3 жыл бұрын

    Wait a minute!!! These then are the shady bad guys on the box art of Origins' Battle Cat!!!

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not sure that is what they are going for. I'll look next time I see it in store

  • @dwitefry4157
    @dwitefry41572 жыл бұрын

    OK, so you've said a couple of times (yes I've just found this video, I'm sorry) that Mattel 'would never' make something like Fuerza-T and you say it like it's an obvious thing, but (and maybe it's just me, I am capable of being quite thick) I don't get exactly why: is it becasue Mattel don't own the characters? Is it because it would somehow 'go back' on them shutting Fuerza-T down and/or mean Top Toys (or others) could get away with the 'use old tools for a self-owned IP' concept? Is it just an ideological thing? Why would Mattel never even entertain the concept?

  • @elextrano7597
    @elextrano75972 жыл бұрын

    Ok there are 2 Factions Scorpio ala Evil warrior a bunch of mutantants that eat people and T force from the remanents of a post apocaliptic Earth i presume. The heros are The T Force a from by a nordic cyborg warrior (Platino) , a Japaniece martial artist of many styles (Shidoshi), a Greek atlete (Titano) and a Usa misterius Cyborg (Tekkno). Also the Staff of Destructor is Alive and is the Chosen one of Evil eldrish gods... Neat xD they would fit rigth in on motu... Pantano (it can be transtaled to Swamp man or Just Swamp) Looks the coolest

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    points taken!

  • @elextrano7597

    @elextrano7597

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@spectorcreative1872 Ok now for the Bad guys ... There are 2 factions of Monsters (They translate to underworld warriors) Escorpius faction Destructor/Destroller: Leader of the Group destroys every thing thats crosses his way. His fangs are strong as steel. Caravrius his living staff has the power of his dark gods. They can see in the dark. Pantano/Marsh or Marsh-Man:it lives in the swamps, sea and Quiqsand (He can swim in sand). He can eat ... ( I will not translate that). He made his weapons and armor using bones of sea creaturea. I can de in the dark even in the sea... (So yea he is like an evil and cool otter) Aracnos Carnivor: Leader of the faction, he is and inteligent and bestial at yhe same time his jetpack lets him fly in the sky and move in caves. He realy likes uncooked meat (may be he is demon royalty) he can see in the dark and is a silent hunter Felinor: Mutant Feline (may be he is an army builder). Dangerus and vampiric, it hunts its victims from far away just to get close and dring their blood. He can see in the dark All the villans eyes (and Tekno) glow in the dark

  • @alejandrotarazona5359
    @alejandrotarazona53593 жыл бұрын

    Hearing gringos saying "fuuerza ti" is always funny

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Guilty as charged. My french is pretty good though.

  • @RetroActionUK
    @RetroActionUK2 жыл бұрын

    Christmas Modulok?! Santa Claws. Using the tooling of Masters of the Universe (1982-1987) for a toyline? Not a great idea.

  • @Mattmurdockk431
    @Mattmurdockk4312 жыл бұрын

    Reading the BIOS on the card. For some reason, all the baddies seem to have night vision or some sort of augmented visual capability. Really weird touch. The texts emphasize it a lot.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    Everyone should have night vision standard

  • @aaronwood8012
    @aaronwood80123 жыл бұрын

    Very similar things happens with Kenner super powers

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    True!

  • @jzachery
    @jzachery4 жыл бұрын

    Do you think with the state of things today that Super7 could do them?

  • @coleccionandofigurasdeaccion

    @coleccionandofigurasdeaccion

    4 жыл бұрын

    Super7 can't do more MOTU lines, their Snake Mountain is the last.

  • @wayneepoo

    @wayneepoo

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@coleccionandofigurasdeaccion These technically wouldn't be MOTU as Scott mentioned in the video. However, I would imagine Super7 would not want to press their luck and make these and make Mattel mad.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Considering Super 7 no longer has the MOTU license, no.

  • @cruizerdave
    @cruizerdave3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe this is a dumb question ... On the subject of tooling. if you sell it to some other company, is it gone forever? Or are there multiple copies of tools used to make toys? Is every 80s He Man stamped out from the very same mold tool? Or were there hundreds of them making the same plastic barbarian, so you could sell some to Top Toys and still have the production capacity to make them for yourself again?

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    The tools were not sold to Top Toys, they were licensed to them to use on a specific project (making He-Man toys). They did not have the right to use them for other things.

  • @cruizerdave

    @cruizerdave

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spectorcreative1872 So do they keep tools forever? And if they’re licensed out, how do you get them back?

  • @Studiothirtyfivephoto
    @Studiothirtyfivephoto2 жыл бұрын

    Dude. lol . That faker is by Leo in India. NOT top toys. The Leo Faker is arguably the most sought variant that exists. Its probably at this point the most expensive complete. Top Toys released Faker too. But those are completely different. The first release Top Toys Faker had a soft head (marked taiwan!) and looks very similar to a standard Taiwan figure. The second releases were hard head (similar to Malaysia Faker) and the last releases also hard head but with bigger body, and more muscular, longer legs.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    Point taken! See tomorrow's video for more on this

  • @scottandrewhutchins
    @scottandrewhutchins2 жыл бұрын

    I believe it's pronounced "fwertsa," but that might be more of an Italian pronunciation.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m sure I am mispronouncing it!

  • @garymichael6899
    @garymichael68993 жыл бұрын

    But, if they sold them the tooling but not the rights to make motu figures, what else could they do with it? (Besides make their own figures? ) I guess that wasn’t Mattel’s (or whoever the seller was) problem...

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    After there license to use it was over it should have been destroyed.

  • @sunnydutta6568
    @sunnydutta65682 жыл бұрын

    I am from india, i have faker action figure, n faker has also sceletor belt peace, in india

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup, that is Leo Toys Faker!

  • @heisenbat
    @heisenbat2 жыл бұрын

    Fuerza-T translates to "Force-T" or "T-Force". Also, Platino is a Latino 😆

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    Noted with thanks

  • @CaptainArrrgh
    @CaptainArrrgh3 жыл бұрын

    Were all the popes from Europe before?

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Except for the Space Pope

  • @davidmorris5561
    @davidmorris55613 жыл бұрын

    Foo-Err Za Tee

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Got it

  • @shtdaprdtr
    @shtdaprdtr2 жыл бұрын

    The faker you mentioned was not Top Toys...it was Leo in India

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    Point taken!

  • @anthonybernero9720
    @anthonybernero97202 жыл бұрын

    Foo-air-za

  • @justinmohan7103
    @justinmohan71033 жыл бұрын

    The Fuerza T stuff looks cool. Too bad.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Too bad indeed.

  • @davecargill1356
    @davecargill13563 жыл бұрын

    You know something is really wrong when these rip offs are worth more than the original MOTU lines they were nicked from

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Reality is not without a sense of irony

  • @ScareglowSkull
    @ScareglowSkull2 жыл бұрын

    Hey the faker you mention was made in India not Top Toys in Argentina! It’s called Leo Faker.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup. And coming in Origins at Power Con

  • @M.fjones
    @M.fjones2 жыл бұрын

    Faker is from India not Argentina

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    2 жыл бұрын

    Point taken!

  • @FedePunx
    @FedePunx4 жыл бұрын

    Faker its from india not argentina

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I made a mistake on that.

  • @patclau006

    @patclau006

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spectorcreative1872 we had Faker in Argentina too

  • @VJFranzK
    @VJFranzK2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting! Wouldn't it be pronounced "FWHERE-zah"? = force

  • @adrionjones
    @adrionjones4 жыл бұрын

    These were abominations. Lol. I think I am the only guy glad these were never made into Classics.

  • @spectorcreative1872

    @spectorcreative1872

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oddly lots of people wanted them!

  • @SonnyDlicious
    @SonnyDlicious2 жыл бұрын

    Enjoy your videos. But this one really annoyed me the way you were utilizing your editing. What's with the scrolling up and down in super close? Some characters we barely got a glimpse of. Half the reason why your audience watches these is because they like to see the toys. Let's get some proper shots or find a way to backup your pictures or keep them still or something. Got to give you a thumbs down on this one

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