I was part of this FC. The original drama and mob did it's job very well. Sprouts who didn't know any better left to enjoy themselves elsewhere. Cult Leader Neph quit. The current FC leader is a total sweetheart and awesome person who stuck up for us all when things went down and has been de facto leader for years. She made sure Neph didn't come back to start again. I REALLY hope that this video doesn't cause people to wrongly harass a current FC that doesn't deserve it.

@brojoe44

Жыл бұрын

ur brainwashed uh oh

@peanutbutter625

Жыл бұрын

Glad to see it has a good ending!

@FIREBALLINbg

Жыл бұрын

You better spread this information as far and as wide as you can then! I was just questioning what would I do if I met someone from that FC in game if it still existed. Im not proud of what my instincts were suggesting.

@azatheeverchosen7615

Жыл бұрын

@@FIREBALLINbg Maybe you should correct your instincts, then. If your first reaction to toxicity is to throw acid on an open flame, maybe you're a part of the problem and not so above it all.

@FIREBALLINbg

Жыл бұрын

@@azatheeverchosen7615 that is literally what i said? It's not a gotcha moment?

Imagine an FC that offers nothing but asks for everything.

@baronfuath5872

2 жыл бұрын

needs to have the tag ""

@navyflyboy07

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Gul'dan offering the blood of Mannoroth to the orcs of Draenor

@ChadThorsen

Жыл бұрын

This sums it up

@cheesemuffin8129

Жыл бұрын

So basically the majority of them

@wolfwyvern3662

Жыл бұрын

Their *blessing* is enough

The leader could've just said, "We don't do savage. Period. If you want to do Savage find another FC." That FC leader gave off some major narcissistic vibes in their statements.

@Sluppie

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah this kind of behavior is really in line with a lot of other narcissistic I've had the misfortune of meeting. They don't want to deal with anything that might make them look even remotely bad, which is probably why they are so afraid of Savage content.

@ChuckSneedly

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like my experience with FFXIV in general.

@Miriam_J_

Жыл бұрын

It's crazy how power hungry this person was. Is it really that hard to just neutrally say the FC doesn't do savage? According to the posts, anyone who asked the leaders why they didn't want to do savage, the leaders would nag your ear off about their opinions on how bad they are. Like, the player didn't ask for their opinions on savage raids, so why are they so adamant about NEEDING to tell their FC players who haven't tried it yet how bad they think it is?

@emissarygw2264

Жыл бұрын

@@Miriam_J_ To be fair the leaders probably really did have awful experiences with it. I'm sure they tried it, and with how bad they are, got roasted to hell.

@Sapphear

3 ай бұрын

That's Exactly what it should have been. I did some savage while I was there, and I know its partially why he didnt like me. But you basically had to Run only at times that it didnt bother the FC, didnt try to get anyone else to join you, anything that promoted doing it at all, because he felt if you do Savage you'll become a big mean elitist. The Hypocrisy comes when I caught him day-one'ing Memoria EX and when I asked to join he at first wouldnt let me because "Oh you wouldnt know how, and I already gotta teach someone else" and only relented because I had cleared it more than he did already.

Entire cult sounds like a massive coping mechanism to justify their grey parses.

@foxdavion6865

2 жыл бұрын

Wtf dude, it is toxic nonsense like this that puts most players off raiding which btw is easy. Which is why stange FCs like this existed... because of people like you!

@secretivelife1898

2 жыл бұрын

Shhhh we try not to use those words, we like to use “bad play style”

@foxdavion6865

2 жыл бұрын

@@secretivelife1898 Nah, use em, I'd giggle when a GM puts a strike on their account for biggotry when they slip up and say it in game.

@silverdepth5111

2 жыл бұрын

you don't even know the half of it

@sempfrost1302

2 жыл бұрын

@@foxdavion6865 new to ff what’s GM stand for

Oh hey, its these guys. I love how proud they were when they finally cleared Suzaku Extreme. Unsynced and an expansion later.

@foxdavion6865

2 жыл бұрын

wait... what? I feel so embarrised clearing old content unsynced for the first time I don't want anyone knowing let alone brag about the doing so.

@ValcristRoda

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't feel ashamed, I wouldn't brag either though.

@silverdepth5111

2 жыл бұрын

I regret not recording their suzaku clear, I was in the discord watching them stream it. I was so dumbfounded by how they just barely cleared. I also found out I was the reason they stopped doing Extremes in stormblood because of me "showing off". They were sooooo bad at dps,and Neph was a garbo healer, I told neph to go dps and I would solo heal it. With an extra fucking dps, we just barely beat enrage. I literally carried them. Also while solo healing these clowns I fucking out dps'd Arc who was tanking it, if you can call that tanking. Anyway because I showed them up in front of their students they stopped doing extremes the rest of the expansion because of little ol me.

@extinctbaryonyx

2 жыл бұрын

You gotta be joking right>? Thats beyond beyond embarassing. everyone should pay some gils to not be taught/ be invited join that scuffed weirdos fc XD

@Dor_Z

2 жыл бұрын

@@silverdepth5111 a legend

holy shit i didn't think that I would see shit like this. I remember back in HW learning about the dreadwyrm cult because their leader was active in novice network during HW and SB. I never got caught in it, but I've seen some shit from it that was insane. There was this one time, this sprout was asking some questions in the novice network, and we all gave them information. The leader found out about it somehow, and she reprimanded the player for asking questions in the NN. She told them that they were only allowed to ask questions in the FC chat. This shit was WILD. I couldn't believe it happened on my server.

I smoked a savage raid and now my palms are hairy and I've gone blind

@Sluppie

2 жыл бұрын

A friend of mine did so much Savage he OD'd and now he's dead. Miss ya, guy.

In general I'd agree people shouldn't be mocked for their parses, but if someone's going to claim to be a master of job X, qualified to teach it, and then their parses on job X are all grey/green, that's worthy of ridicule.

@4thwall826

2 жыл бұрын

well, if they can do the bare minimum, which is read the tooltips, use them accordingly, keep their rotation going and clear the contents then i dont really care if they triple weave and clip or having downtime due to mechanic but trying to min-max a parsing/opti-run w/o being able to do the bare-min will tickle me a little

@StarLuminosity

2 жыл бұрын

Clears a clear. Your parses don't mean shit

@miannekahkol9556

2 жыл бұрын

@@StarLuminosity Clear's a clear, but if someone claims to be a master of their class and then demonstrably is in the bottom 10 percent of people playing that class, they're obviously wrong.

@kekw6281

2 жыл бұрын

@@StarLuminosity often a purple and up parser can cover up some lower parsing player to actually clear the content. Especially during early weeks of savage. Also, in this context- a grey parser should not call themselves a master. It's just such a joke for me when they are the bottom 25% of the recorded player gameplays. It's like a Silver LoL/Apex/Valorant player claiming to be a master at the game.

@Akister

2 жыл бұрын

@@StarLuminosity 'A clear is a clear' is fine IF you're only after a clear and barely scraping by to get it. A grey parse indicates multiple deaths, a lack of understanding/learning mechs and a poor graspof your class to an average extent. Parses pit you against the most effective players and show you where you rank. Parses do mean shit, cope

Thankfully that insane Neph leader is basically given up the position and left the FC alone by themselves. It's now run by a wonderful person whose truly caring and a great person. I genuinely hope none of this comes back to the current people there, they have something to do with those insane leaders.

@joviline7

2 жыл бұрын

At least this post has some positive feedback from what all I've been reading I am the current leader of this FC that everyone's been making fun of

@someclevername8167

2 жыл бұрын

@@joviline7 I’m sorry you’re stuck with the reputation the last leader’s actions brought. Whatever happened to them, if you know? I’m also assuming you did away with all the stupid bullshit they pulled too?

@Dor_Z

2 жыл бұрын

I am happy to hear that tbh, hope people can finally be chill and enjoy the game with everyone in that FC.

@joviline7

2 жыл бұрын

Fc leader of basically logs on maybe like once a month just to renew his house and Leadership but other than that all the current players we have right now they're sweet they're kind they are loving they're enjoying the game everyone's taking their time doing whatever they want I'm doing my Savage ultimate content on the side and I'm having a blast doing what I'm doing but with this video post it right now it's really affecting the way I feel and making me have a panic attack like another data center attacks going to attack my FC again sorry if my word seem jumper I'm using text to talk while at work

@meytrap

2 жыл бұрын

@@joviline7 no one should have a panic attack or feel stress over a game :(

I can confirm this I was once a member here and nep is a insane person he asked me to leave my static to run stuff with them and that I couldn't be with my own static when the FC needed raiders! That dude is insane I would say for sure please find another FC for the love of god don't do it together yourself!

@ShrympyRS

Жыл бұрын

Is this FC still alive?

LOL I used to be friends with them, This was a long time ago, DWA is no more they are now DWO and basically run by Jovi who is a sweetheart. I made a few long post exposing Nep's nonsense.

@nemolovesy0u

2 жыл бұрын

Where can we read them?

@silverdepth5111

2 жыл бұрын

@@nemolovesy0u Here you go r/Dreadwyrm_Academy/ I wasn't the only one slamming them on reddit I am Devoutofdarkness. There is so much stuff not even posted. Their ex-leader neph was much more insane than what the post displayed.

@nemolovesy0u

2 жыл бұрын

@@silverdepth5111 Jesus. Im glad it's better now

Oh, I remember this shit, lmao. FYI, this cult is the tip of the iceberg for giant guilds full of leaders who discourage players from proper improvement, telling them to demonize savage, etc. I know that sounds ridiculous, but I promise you, Dreadwyrm Academy is the tip of the iceberg. One of many.

@epitaphofondri2778

2 жыл бұрын

That's why I don't fucking talk to people in game

@AkWonderwaffle47

2 жыл бұрын

Any other recommendation or posts to go through? Im curious to see more since DWA was the main one I saw back in the day

@Venosyne

2 жыл бұрын

​@@vaan_ SMN is already turn brain off job now to freestyle it? Now that takes skill lmaooo

@vovo9449

2 жыл бұрын

@@epitaphofondri2778 This is why you form a static, static drama is 100 times preferable to FC drama imo

@RinTheBard

5 ай бұрын

@@vaan_late af response, that’s impressive a group not being able to clear P1s me and a group of 8 friends cleared in 6hrs of attempts. 6 of them never playing a tab target mmo before and 2 of us coming from wow. What were they having trouble with aetherial shackles? And the summoner only did ruin??? No summon bahumad,pheonix or even their primal aetherflow. That is some really impressive SMN gameplay

this has very "we demand to be taken seriously" vibes

Dreadwyrm Academy just seems like an amish challenge that ended up becoming a way of life. Shit’s wild lol

I mean, if people want to do savage content, they'll do it. No one deserves to be harassed/ridiculed for that, let alone FC members. I would like to do savage content as well, I just do not have time for it. Adult life eats up most of my time.

@silverdepth5111

2 жыл бұрын

This video doesn't even show the full insanity of Neph and Arc. I knew them and tried to stop them fool self destructing themselves then I went off on them when I got backstabbed.

@VeryProfessionalGamer

2 жыл бұрын

If you wanna do savage, pick a job/role you wanna play, watch a p1s guide so you know the mechanics, join a PF-group that says „practice“ and run it until you kill it. Continue with p2s and so on. Might be a good idea to wait till next tier though, since lockout has just been lifted. Savage ain’t THAT hard if you don’t give a crap about your parse. Do the mechanics, try to optimise your playstyle with The Balance as a ressource, and your damage should be sufficient. Check on SSS. If you have time left over, it’s enough damage.

@k9tirion927

2 жыл бұрын

This always sounds like savage is this time consuming monster when it's really not. 6/8 guys in our 2 evening static work fulltime, 2 of them have a family and the other 2 not working are mint students who still have a 50 hour/week study-load. We raid 2.5 hours an evening and took a bit under 4 months to clear pandemonium, that's it.

@joshkary5040

Жыл бұрын

@@k9tirion927 4 months is a HELL of a long time but if it’s to match player scheduling needs I get it! But to say 2.5 hours for 4 months is not a “time consuming monster” is a stretch, considering it’s typically cleared in at most a month. How many days a week did you guys go at it?

This is madness. I log in, pvp for a few hours a day and check retainers for random stuff to trade for seals, that's about as far as my effort for my own fc goes 😅

wait hang on...they expect teamwork and self sufficiency? So you have to be able to solo everything in order to join but only if you do it as a team? do they also ask for cold fires and dry water on entry?

Most power this person has ever had in their life, and it shows

There are several FCs on Aether that are similar. Dollhaus, 8-bit are two that come to mind. Leadership completely nuts, controlling. Dollhaus leader shouted at a person for using shout chat in an open map to ask people to hold a rare fate for them (I was there for that). 8-bit leader famous for harassment of guild members they didn't like, and being involved in breaking up an irl marriage for an rp relationship (I was around for that too). People are absolutely nuts sometimes.

@Lawliet...

Жыл бұрын

Was it someone elses marriage or their own? If it was their own, well good riddance to their partner, hope they found someone better. If it was someone elses then their marriage must have been f**** from the start if some dude online can manage to break it apart.

@NecoDiruo

Жыл бұрын

Yoooo I was in there for a little while when I made an alt on Aether. The first red flag was joining their disc and there was a channel explaining past drama and justifying their actions. I remember the leader saying stuff like you should meld spell speed on red mage and playing paladin for clemency in dungeons, dumb stuff like that. I got bored and left.

Oh man. I just learned about the Final Fantasy House and other cults similar to it a few months ago. I know this shit gonna be good.

@MinamiX3

Жыл бұрын

I wish I had never looked into Final Fantasy House

This is one community legend cult. I still remember their 'Master Bard' had grey parse 😂

@silverdepth5111

2 жыл бұрын

Lets not forget the skill speed melds

@syllawblood

2 жыл бұрын

"grey is OK"

@silverdepth5111

2 жыл бұрын

@@syllawblood We asked them if they used sky,sea, stone and Neph said "we don't use 3rd party tools", they didn't even know SSS was built into the game LOL

@PubstarHero

Жыл бұрын

I literally never played BRD in my life. I level skipped it, banged it out to 80 so I could raid on it and fill the phys ranged role in my static, and slapped a high green down on my first run without bothering to look up proper opener, only song timings. I bothered to look up how to play the clase and made it purp in like 2 weeks. DOes this mean I am the Godlike Bard?

Holy crap, I forgot about this stuff, some of their "top members" was like, grey parsers and was shit talking everybody, what a period of story, this FC is like, one fraction of many out there that still operating, discouraging players and savage, this shit is funny.

Great community btw

I got kicked out of an fc because I refused to change my character to male because I was a male irl and rolling a female in game, i just prefer the way females video game characters look to males. Some ff14 people are shitbat crazy

@kutlumzrak2689

2 жыл бұрын

No. Some People are bats hot crazy. This isn't ff14 specific. The entire human race has this subset of maniacs.

@Darokler

2 жыл бұрын

I do the same since i dont like most of the male glamour and most outfits just look better on femal chars in 14

@gman7497

2 жыл бұрын

@@tcan225 I've always played female characters if I have the option. They just look graceful and cool in combat and ofc sexy clothes/armors. Idk why some get hung up on it, when you think about it, it is hetero af to wanna look at a cute game characters backside for hours 😆

@foxdavion6865

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah uh, truth is unless it is an Role playing FC the leadership shouldn't care under normal conditions. I garantee there is an alterier motive behind it. The most likely case is the FC leader or staff and leader are creeps and want to figure out who is and isn't female without asking and risking getting reported for being creeps.

@insertname7325

2 жыл бұрын

@@gman7497 That's actually why some people have an issue it's the whole. "Ew you're only on that character so you can fap to them." Mentality.

Wait until they hear about Ultimate.

As someone who is apart of the current FC... We arent by any means like this. Jovi runs the show and we are just laid back and having a good time. Sadly... the name and history still follow us till this day.

@Dor_Z

2 жыл бұрын

I am sorry to hear that, what happened? did they leave because all of this?

@Solthin262

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of people quit the game or moved on. Some of us ( myself included) joined after meeting Jovi or some of the good ones left. We are not a large FC by any means. Maybe 15 active at the most. We just haven't purged the list fully. Neph logs in once a month just to keep status. They have pretty much quit.

@melissas4874

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly? I was a lead for a "community" in WoW (comparable to a CWLS) which was all about helping people overcome raid anxiety. I think these type of groups are very important honestly. And I can understand the leads saying "if you feel we are moving too slow move on", but I think the way they expressed all of this here is just bad. We had the same "rule" in our community about pace, but it was expressed more like "this is a way to teach those new to raiding. If you feel you have gotten all you can from us and feel confident going faster, we understand if you wish to leave and wish you the best." We also did NOT kick them from the community - they were welcome back any time. Because that should be the point of a group that is teaching - at some point the students will graduate and sometimes you may not even have students.

@Solthin262

2 жыл бұрын

Issue is... the teaching has to be right. It wasn't even close

@silverdepth5111

2 жыл бұрын

@@Solthin262 That sucks, I told Neph to just pass leader to Jovi. (they probably blocked me so they didn't get the message) What I'm hoping for now is that Neph doesn't see this video then kick everyone out of the FC. Neph is that crazy. They love doing revenge, they even had a group of false reporters to try and get people banned. Let me tell you how Neph's mind works, no matter how much you've helped them or been their friend they will back stab you at the slightest disagreement. There was a housing LS that focused on doing cool designs. Neph was mad at a player named Danny Dorito for telling them it was not against ToS to buy, sell trade houses(which it isn't, you can still buy, trade and sell houses because as long as the players set up a player contract and abid by those rules no ToS is broken) and I agreed with Danny. Neph stopped talking to be just because of that, how dare I agree with a fact. Neph is also a fucking hypocrite, they so against houses being traded,sold and bought yet they didn't say a damn thing when those houses were GIVEN to them. So much for "players should only obtain houses if they find it" Just be on the look out for insanity.

Oh hey, I posted that thread lmao. It's so weird watching this, just hoping I didn't say something too cringe worthy. From what I hear the FC has died out a bit, but I haven't spoken to anyone who was involved for a while now. In the end there were some pretty crazy stories regarding Neph.

@silverdepth5111

2 жыл бұрын

Oh hey are you Bezz? I think my name ingame at the time was Regis. Whats sup.

Even after all this time it’s still crazy to think a crazy cult fc like this exists, glad Xeno reacted to it.

@foxdavion6865

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but this is content from 2 years ago. Meanwhile in the real world, Billboards.

Ok, I'm Bezz the one who was being targeted by those posts on their website. Neph tried to gatekeep savage from me, and when i left he went nuclear and a friend still in dwa showed me everything he was saying about me and those posts from the DWA forum that you're showingb.I'm. The one who provided all those screenshots and made the dwa subreddit. Please stop giving life to DWA this was 2 years ago. A lot of bad shit happened to the former members. Some I'm still close with. We've all moved on but it keeps being brought back up and we all get pmed, and dragged about it.

I remember hearing about this shit Y E A R S ago! I completely forgot that this existed.

This feels like an RP FC that took itself way too seriously

Strummer, would you somehow be able to interview one of the members of the FC now? Seems like some of them have good heads on their shoulders and could maybe give everyone an insight on how they are now. I guess that'll depend on whether they'd be willing, too.

my favourite bit is how they have a tenet about being self sufficient, and then another one about being required to always help FC members (which isnt very self sufficient)

I had heard about this group back in ShadowBringers and had an alt over there that got in. They tried to say I wasn't ready to do savage despite out-dpsing Arc as a samurai and even several people on summoner. So I went and joined a static anyway. Cleared all the current content before they managed to. Came back. flexed my fancy gear. Then proceeded to lali-hop my way into a few ultimate clears as well. All the while taking a bunch of people who Arc and Neph said weren't ready and getting them through the content. with literally zero issues. So if anyone is wondering why 30-40 people left during February? Well. I took them and gave them better homes. Current leadership is solid though, No insanity to be seen. props to them for fixing the dumpster fire that it was. Edit: for clarification. I was only in the FC because I was looking for company buffs while grinding up my alt. When I tried to recruit people in the FC to do practice, they put a hard stop to it. So I told them that regardless of them saying so. I'll have a group up in PF. They then kicked me, but the damage was done and several people began to come right to my PF, and I started doing multiple runs every day for multiple groups. Mostly made from people from the cult. the amount of hypocrisy they showed was amazing. But I made a lot of good friends from those who split off.

@ralk7048

Жыл бұрын

That sounds pretty awesome. You're confident and know what you want from the game, and I think the novices in that guild gravitated to you because they unconsciously want the freedom and excitement of trying new things, and people that stayed tend to be the anxious people who don't have a lot of personality nor know what they want, and thus actually welcome the suffocating structure and rules of a despotic leader. I'm old enough now to sense the weird vibes of cult-like or insular friend-group guilds and possess the strength of character to just break away and do what I want, but a teenage me from long ago probably would have been sucked in, stuck waiting for approval that would never come. It's fortunate that the guilds in MMOs I played were usually the really laid-back ones, and because I like playing alone chasing solo-able collectibles, I guess I put myself far away from the vortex of drama like this.

I still find it so interesting how people are scared to do endgame content in this game, both savage and ultimates. People have this extreme anxiety of getting kicked off of parties or blacklisted by some for a mistake, I used to be like this too until i realized that's normal and something everyone goes through at some point. I was an awkward as fuck player who did UCoB before even doing a savage, it was hella painful at first but I managed to perfect myself and become a pretty respected person around my friends. Having anxiety on your first time is understandable, outright banning it in your FC because of some personal salt/bad experiences is just insane

@Nyeril

Жыл бұрын

I dunno man, i understand the anxiety. Ive seen so many parties where people get pissed off and disband or straight up boot people for one mistake from a god damn practice from start party. Savage and ultimate have alot more time investment tied to them than normal shit. Its not that surprising.

@handles_are_idiotic

Жыл бұрын

@@Nyeril If you do a simple mistake and the party disband you move on, that's exactly what I mentioned in my comment, everyone goes through it and people need to understand it's normal. Because mr. tilted dps over there has been doing UCoB for the past 5 months without getting his clear got pissed and booted you off the party for a simple mistake doesn't mean you're a shit player neither should you take it personally. But seeing people pay for clears or flat out avoid PF entirely just because they think getting blacklisted by someone is the end of the world, I feel like people need to relax a little bit. And this goes especially for FC's (like old DWA) who ban members or are heavily against members doing savages with anyone that isn't them, it's just stupid

@jobers5566

Жыл бұрын

Was gonna say.. I see people get kicked and BListed all the time in PF. Extremely common. Personally, I only tolerate poor performance myself in the first raid of each tier, and only for a little while before I either jump ship, or they throw out the problem.

there are cases of doom that requires esuna. dun scaith for instance. but mostly you dont use it. hell even on poison/burns most of them dont do enough damage to warrant losing the gcd to it

"You are a Healer [...]" yeah, that makes my eye twitch already

I was in a similar FC on Light. It was fun. I mean, cringe but I like cringe things. We were a dozen ppl new to the game inside that Fc. The best thing was we couldn’t use discord to communicate. We were forced to use the FC chat for everything. Then a day a dick flew on that chat. Ah, those were my golden ages. Sometimes I miss them. Then I left that cult and started to play FFXIV.

I have quit so many Guilds like that in different games in the past they are always so toxic stay away from Guilds like that which has giant forms.

I use Esuna any time I can. You're paralyze? Esuna. You're hit with poison? Esuna. You're hit with Burn? Esuna. Hell anything that looks remotely like a status effect, I use Esuna to see if I can remove it from people in my party. Esuna hasn't moved from my rotation at all, even in the later content once I realized it actually worked.

@lakie92

Жыл бұрын

You dont need to check them, just fyi. They have a white marker underneath if they can be removed.

I guess I just have terrible luck because out of the 4 fc's I've gotten into 3 of them have been weird varying levels of this culty weirdness. Gaslighting, love bombing, insane levels of control or at least attempts at it, blatant and extreme favoritism to the point of ostracizing anyone who questioned the golden ones, hostility which would be denied and/or ignored by the leaders, the list goes on.

Dreadwyrm Academy...I haven't heard that name in a long time... They aren't the whole circus, they were the entire circus industry.

I agree that Neph person sounds like they didn't know what they were talking about; however I don't think it was necessary to openly call out all the players on that website and their datacenter by name. I knew a couple of people who played in that FC and from what I was told the whole thing was a pretty traumatic event.

@raphu2272

5 ай бұрын

stfu its a game

Honestly? I got kind of turned off of savage after getting to 90 in an FC I was in. People like to say "well if you raided in WoW that doesn't mean anything here", but it actually does. It means you are willing to put in the time to learn the fights, adapt, and be responsible to other people. It's not like WoW raids have no mechanics so it means you can learn mechanics. I think FF14 players want to be respected and not viewed by WoW players as "less than", but this goes both ways. TL;DR - there are a lot of cultish FC's in this game. And yes, we cleared P1S after like 3 or 4 pulls since that fight is likely the easiest. I do love that they didn't make savage a priority, but also will pretty much dismiss people for doing them without the FC - which implies they are a priority, but in a bad way. Or maybe they are just uber-casual. I was in a WoW guild that would /gkick people who dared try a normal raid outside of the group - because they didn't want other people in the guild to be interested in it. The leads who made the unspoken rule wanted to be the only ones doing normal or higher raids.

@Sluppie

2 жыл бұрын

If you raided in WoW then you might already know that "well if you raided in WoW that doesn't mean anything here" is bullshit-talk for "I will never, ever, ever acknowledge your accomplishments or importance to the party".

Think of all the FCs out there that dream of being showcased by Xenos. Regular feature?

You remind me so much of Limit Maximum holy cow. Your laughs are almost identical (all 2 or 3 of them,) and your personalities are super similar too. If anything he's a little more laid back than you but you're both super perceptive and logical people, and you're both very strong players at a high level in your respective MMORPG raiding scenes. Crazy.

My face when I realise that I...hung out with Neph during this time period as a rando who met them during an rp cafe event. *Fear*

Some of those qoutes shaved chunks of my soul off.

"This is not a roleplay thing" ... Yes, it is. They just so serious about their school roleplay that they're in denial about it being a roleplay at all.

as someone who is a leader in a fc.... How the heck do they have time to micromanage these people?!

@crowdemon_archives

Жыл бұрын

As someone who's part of the founder-trio of an FC, I don't know either. My FC at least have multiple people running different things and people are given options to take part in them (eg. hunt trains, savage raids, alliance raids, etc.). We just let things flow lol

apparently it still exists holy moly

The tank that got pumped out from that cult would have been the type to sit in the tank stance 24/7 and nor drop/swap to dps ever. The heals will be the type that never dropped in the cleric stance even when no damage was going out. TBF it seems like a good starter point but clips the wings of their "students" who try and improve.

@Sluppie

2 жыл бұрын

The three pillars actively teach bad habits, and they go against the actual stated intent of the game. All three roles do DPS. Red roles just do more DPS than blue or green.

I kinda agree with the 3 pillars and I would have joined if they were on Phoenix but I doubt that they would take me cus I'm kinda solo playing this game not to mention that I have 5 characters and I'm a ghost member of 4 FC's

Ya know, if people can make a cult in FFXIV, I can probably get a static.

That's the most chad summoner I've seen, ngl

i could probably use some optimization with my gunbreaker fighting, but idk if i could take a gunbreaker teacher with that bio seriously.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it typically faster for a dungeon party with two ranger dps to use limit break on a long pull? I feel my runs go faster when cooldowns and limit breaks are in constant use.

That boldness. The future of asmonbold for sure.

As some6on Adamantoise I'm surprised never encountered them

imagine there reaction when a quad legends joins

Xano, Xano, Xano, that is just uncalled for. Budget Yuna. Fucking hilarious.

From the looks of it they changed their name to NightDreamDay and the Mansion is a shell of it's former self xD

Off the start i'm just like, bruh, it's just savage, there aren't hazards, it's pretty chill and fun lol

Damn these guys are nuts.

Whaaaaaat a cult thats NOT on Balmung??

Famous quote "DEEZ NUTZ". I absolutely died laughing.

this reminds me of some clan i was in back on Socom, except more extreme lmao. some weird ass shit

Yeah im not joining any FC until i get to Endwalker i just finishes ARR but i dont want to deal whit shit like this rn its to ealry

Well now I feel less conscious about my percieved faults when dpsing and tanking. At least I don’t brag when unsyncing Suzaku EX an expansion later lmfao

I'd like to know what weird thing happens on every server. Here is Adamantoise. We know Balmung 😂 I want to know about others

I know this is an older vid, but some of those points in the "pillars" were decent at least for low level play, just worded really badly as absolute rules rather then guidelines they should be, I dunno how it's in savage/unreals but in the content I normally do, LBs are typically reserved for bosses, that said it also depends on the role, melee DPS LBs are overkill and waste of a bar on trash (it's single target only), most of the time healer LBs are same (LB1 and LB2 are less effective them just spamming AoE heals IIRC and LB3 is a wipe prevention), caster and ranged are more group LBs though either to be used on trash or an add phase, still you should discuss with your group when to use that.

Neph sounds like he's probably working at a McDonalds, and he *wishes* he could be the manager but he's not good enough to get that promotion.

yooooo we can likely go to this place now that we can server travel XD .

The grey parse cult

Wow I really walked into this thinking there was some crazy shit, but I left with this video summarized by DIESOFCRINGE.

First I was like wtf is this.. now it sounds interesting 🤔

Club Hellfire!

Their flaws aside, they made great content fo xeems. Funny video!

Sounds like a group of people that have never done anything above Normal/Story content but have an insane image painted in their head of what "Savage is" and what "Raiders are", soooo like 80% of the FF14 community on Reddit cranked up to 11 😂

So on which days do they drink the punch?

@baronfuath5872

2 жыл бұрын

the last one.

@rugalbernstein5913

8 ай бұрын

The Final Days

Jeeeeeesus Christ monkaW

The leader hasn't played since before EW came out.

I mean tbh I wouldn't have a problem with the terms of the FC in the video, kinda makes sense if i finished content to go back and help others in the FC also. And if im online why would you be doing anything other than progressing your FC? If that isnt for you then dont join one or atleast one like that. sure it comes off as a tad draconian but sometimes ppl think every FC is to just rp or do whatever and some are very serious about what they do. Their rules and expectations aren't hidden, it's everywhere and tbh I respect the rigid outline. A Dreadwyrm Academy exists in almost every game if you look. Glad they are doing much better now but honestly i wouldnt join a FC like this one if i wasnt 110% about it.

....what happens if you raid in other games in this fc holy shit

As a savage raider I find it hilarious 😂

Imagine wanting to be in an FC run by baby Mussolini who wrote that insanity.

Damn, the guy that told them they are slow would have gotten their account terminated by the squeenix clown GM's in 2022

some of them have good Logs doe......

They seem reasonable...

Old video but man I swear I have seen someone on the official forums with that kind of grammar

so how do they do 24man raids?

@StitchXDHD

Жыл бұрын

With great difficulty.

This cult has the same large plot as me 😂

@Sapphear

3 ай бұрын

They Also had the Small next to it, that was just full of dolls. litterally had the yard for more striking dummies.

These people are acting like Savage is hard is just making it out to be some monster it isn't. Savage is only hard if you can't learn and grow from failure, more you play at savage level the easier it gets. All you need to do to succeed is know the fights, know where to be (situational awareness) and most of all know your class and to a lesser degree others abilities and limitations. Above all have fun with it, failure is not the end don't get weird about failing learn and try again. Savage honestly lets me experience what this game's dungeons used to be like and evey then some fights aren't even that hard as I had back then.

@Sapphear

3 ай бұрын

The whole savage thing is Basically just Neph felt people who play ffxiv to run savage are toxic and elitist and unfriendly to noobs. so no one was allowed to do the end game. I think someone got kicked after being in for like 2 days because we heard their Astro card draw timer over discord and he screamed about external tools. it was dumb and sounds like they had a bad experience and became a cult leader as an over-reaction.

This is so good that I really need to copy these rules into my own FC and wait for the chaos, this is just too funny. It really sounds like a few 13yr olds got together to make this like a little gang. I think they missed having an inclusive uniform made of hempen, maybe someone can suggest that for them.

This fc sound more like a job than a actual job lmao

Know your dps role--healers be like, "1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1...

If you're* not interested in helping us out,*

"We play the game for fun, so follow our religious tenants to the letter or we will liquidate you!"

Tanks need to hold aggro? lol..... Its not like the healer or dps can just steal aggro like the older days in dungeons. Let alone in raids, a MT exists, and so does Shirk

@mikal768

Жыл бұрын

The document is from the days when tanks can have aggro stolen I believe so…

@crowdemon_archives

Жыл бұрын

@@mikal768 So, pre-ShB or something then.

Mad because grey parses.

@Sapphear

3 ай бұрын

You can't grey parse if you dont run content.