Inlay vs Marquetry

This video will show you some primary differences betwixt Inlay and marquetry. I've made two different panels...utilizing two different approaches. The inlay was created with the Shaper Origin...however, one could use a CNC, regular router...or even cut it with chisels, gouges, etc. The marquetry panel was made completely by hand...utilizing the "double-bevel marquetry technique". The end results looks very similar...but the process to get there is quite different. Pros n cons to each method.
Check out the video to see the two processes, and as always...tons of tips and tricks along the way! Below are some links of interest related to this video.
Bandsaw set up jig (KZread video)
• Perfect veneers sliced...
My "Marquetry Class 101" A complete kit containing everything you'd need to learn the double bevel technique including the tutorial on a flash drive, a deep reach fret saw, saw blades, marquetry platform, pack of veneers, drill bits, pin vise for holding drill bits, stylus, tracing paper, carbon paper, assignment drawing, and much much more! ramonvaldezfinefurniture.com/...
Wanna learn to use a belt sander? It's an extremely (and underutilized) versatile tool!
• Belt Sanders - Tips & ...
My favorite fret saw! amzn.to/3dUiEcP
A link to the awesome white pencil that I use on dark woods: amzn.to/3LVR3ED
(I may earn commissions for purchases made through these Amazon links)
My website: ramonvaldezfinefurniture.com/
Woodworking tips and tricks of all kinds at my Instagram account:
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I'm Ramon Valdez...I've been doing woodworking for several decades. I'm passionate about sharing my processes & techniques and I'll show you quick & easy solutions to many woodworking related projects. Join me on this journey as I build this channel, let me know what topics you'd like to see, and do me a huge favor and click that subscribe button! I can guarantee that you'll learn something! Click. Like. Subscribe...Learn.
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  • @CLove511
    @CLove511 Жыл бұрын

    "All the grain continues through the walnut, so that should make it look cohesive and harmonious" It's very interesting to hear stuff like this because I'm about 99% sure the customer will never notice or care about that small detail, but watching you take pride in it is watching an artist at work.

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    Жыл бұрын

    You’re correct! However, doing those little details can make a piece look beautiful…even if those specific details aren’t actually known. Much thanks.

  • @smoky5833
    @smoky5833 Жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate that you show the two methods, as not all wood workers have access to, or the money spend on the high tech equipment.

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    Жыл бұрын

    I like both methods but feel greater satisfaction doing it by hand. Anyway, thanks for checking it out!

  • @sawdustwoman
    @sawdustwoman3 жыл бұрын

    That “puhfect” was perfect. Great job on this video!

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    3 жыл бұрын

    😬 thanks Amanda!

  • @mattwilliams3456
    @mattwilliams34562 жыл бұрын

    It’s always a pleasure watching a master at work and enjoying themselves while doing it. I was just looking at the Shaper Origin a few weeks ago at Rockler but will definitely be giving the marquetry a try at some point just as an interesting skill.

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a ton! This was a fun project to try out both processes. I’ll never get away from hand cut marquetry but the Shaper has me thinking of new and much larger projects!

  • @jameswilliamson6066
    @jameswilliamson60663 жыл бұрын

    Your work is amazing, Ramon. I really enjoyed watching how the marquetry process is done. I have appreciated your contributions on the Woodworkers' Podcast as well. Thanks for posting this. I'm looking forward to making some small stumbling attempts into marquetry soon!

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the good words! Just about anything is soooo much easier to learn these days! Including Marquetry. The double bevel technique is my fav! Once you get the angle right for a good fit, then it just takes a little practice. Reach out if you have some questions.

  • @midjetville
    @midjetville2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, thanks for sharing the process!

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    2 жыл бұрын

    Truly…thanks for checking it out!

  • @viorsa8200
    @viorsa82003 жыл бұрын

    Excelente tutorial Ramón , la marquetería y las incrustaciones , elevadas al máximo nivel , muchas gracias por compartir tanta creatividad y conocimientos , un saludo cordial y por supuesto un gran like desde Narón , Galicia ( España) 😜 🤓

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    3 жыл бұрын

    ¡Siempre agradezco tus amables palabras! ¡Me lleva algo de tiempo traducir! 😆

  • @speedrrracer
    @speedrrracer3 жыл бұрын

    Such a talented woodworker -- you even speak fluent Morley!

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha ha…thanks a ton. Cheers 😬

  • @Brian-dr2yi
    @Brian-dr2yi2 жыл бұрын

    Your just on another level. Amazing

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for checking it out!

  • @cdbflynow
    @cdbflynow3 жыл бұрын

    Nice video Ramon, thanks. I am a bit surprised that the Origin result was not as tight as the marquetry one. I suppose that's because the marquetry bevel is great at hiding imperfections. Or, ...... maybe your hand cutting technique is just stupendous! Perhaps you should raise the prices on your marquetry pieces. Paul

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was surprised myself. With the research that I did (surrounding doing inlay with CNC or Shaper Origin) the overall opinion was to cut the inlay piece a thou or two smaller to allow for glue and an easier fit. Me, being stubborn and with tons of inlay experience, I made the inlay pieces a few thou BIGGER than the openings or cavities. I then back beveled the the bottom corners to allow them to slip in tightly. One has to work quickly or the glue will swell the pieces and they’ll never go in! However, even doing that there were traces of glue lines with the Shaper cut inlay. Most people won’t notice probably. But with double bevel marquetry….since the mating pieces are angled…the fit is incredible and perfectly tight! Zero gaps. I love that process! Anyway…thanks a ton.

  • @jessefurqueron5555
    @jessefurqueron5555 Жыл бұрын

    Making my way through a few of your vids 😁. Just a thought. If you ever want to upgrade your pin vise, you might want to take a look at Godhand pin vises. We do a lot of scratchbuilt models/prototypes, wood, plastic, metal etc and pin vises are a pet peave. Godhand makes two different sizes of pin vises. We’ve got ten of both sizes (dislike changing bits every few minutes). Their micro drill bits (couple of different sets) are a major step up as well. They are not cheap, but if you use a pin vise a lot and get frustrated with the typical ones available, look at Godhand. All of their tools are second to none, IMHO. Great pencils, scissors, scrapers, craft knives, pin vises; it’s literally the small simple things that can make life so much more enjoyable and efficient in the shop 😁 Not associated with Godhand or any of their resellers other than as a extremely (and I don’t use that phrase lightly) satisfied customer. As always, YMMV. Just sharing, nothing more, nothing less.

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    Жыл бұрын

    I certainly appreciate your feedback and info about the pin vises! I'll check em out...even though I've not ever had any problems with these inexpensive type. Typically, the jobber drill bit protrudes about 3/16" and it stays there. The bits in general won't get dull...they break from getting dropped! 😄 I put a ton of effort into my"Marquetry Class 101" and it may seem pricey, so I have tried hard to keep the price down. However, I am going to look up those pin vises, perhaps for myself. So thanks a ton!

  • @brenon4766
    @brenon47663 жыл бұрын

    Love the Shaper stuff!

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s such a cool and fun machine!

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s such a cool and fun machine!

  • @JonathanSchwartzColfax
    @JonathanSchwartzColfax2 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful work, very informative video. Is your buddy Randy Allen the guitar maker in Northern California? Hi supplies my high school woodshop with his offcuts, great guy

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much. And nope…my friend is a furniture maker. Different, great guy 😬

  • @Hibbing49
    @Hibbing492 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ramon, Can you tell me more about the small bits (manufacturer and part no.) you used with the Origin. Great videos!

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello…we’re outa town …will be back soon. The 1/8 “ bits I found from several places. I think Tools Today sells 1/8” shank bits. (I purchased an 1/8” collet adapter from Shaper) Also, a company called Think & Tinker sells tiny bits. Amana has some as well. If I remember I can get part numbers for you. Much thanks.

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    2 жыл бұрын

    Google search “Golden Coulee” router bits…they have a lot…Temo brand

  • @Hibbing49

    @Hibbing49

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your reply.

  • @davidbedrosian1567
    @davidbedrosian15673 жыл бұрын

    That was another great video, Ramon. You almost had me when you pulled out your handplane to level the inlaid letters :-) "What, no belt sander" I said to my computer. With the shaper origin, how much larger was the cavity than the letters? I've got a few things in mind that could use some inlay and your video has me motivated to give it a try. Thanks as always.

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha ha…yeah…I love belt sanders. 😬 I may have created a misunderstanding in the video, I’ll have to go back and check. But the letters were made LARGER than the cavity. Not by much…maybe a thou or two. All the research that I did said to do the opposite when doing inlay. “Leave yourself some room and make the inlay a few thousandths smaller”. I didn’t like that idea because all the photos that I could zoom in on didn’t look tight. Glue lines look horrible to me. So, with my insert pieces slightly larger, I back beveled the corners to allow them to start slipping into place. Then they compressed (slightly) as they went in creating a tight fit. There still were slight glue lines on one edge of the letter T. Most people wouldn’t notice. I’m looking forward to seeing what you create!

  • @davidbedrosian1567

    @davidbedrosian1567

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ramonartful thanks for that clarification Ramom. You were probably clear in your explanation but I made the assumption that the letters would be undersized. In a way, with the letters being slightly beveled, it's like you are using a bit of the marquetry technique with the inlay. I've got a few projects on the go right now so it may be a while before I give this a try. Cheers

  • @TheTranq
    @TheTranq2 жыл бұрын

    I’m very interested in getting into marquetry for my woodworking.

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    2 жыл бұрын

    Marquetry is such a huge passion of mine! It’s amazing how much it can add to a piece! I do have a course called Marquetry Class 101. In it, I have a flash drive with 4 hours of tutorial, broke down in chapters. I also provide the fretsaw, marquetry platform, veneers, drill bits and pin Vice (used to drill tiny holes) saw blades, glue…basically everything you need to get started! Check it out here: ramonvaldezfinefurniture.com/product/marquetry-class-101-full-kit/ Thanks

  • @TheTranq

    @TheTranq

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ramonartful thanks I’ll check it out. I already have a Knew Concepts fret saw but would be interested in the course. You’re not located in MN by chance are you?

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheTranq Same letters...but reversed! NM...I'm in norther New Mexico. thanks

  • @danielpatterson864
    @danielpatterson8642 жыл бұрын

    So you feel there was a better result by hand? I really hope so! It's a beautiful thing knowing that machines can't replace a talented craftsman.

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is a great question! Pros n cons, like anything else. To me, there’s something about a piece like this that’s made by hand. At first glance it may look perfect. Upon closer inspection, one could see slight deviations here n there. It’s challenging to follow a line with a blade that’s barely the thickness of three sheets of paper! Tiny! But that’s what gives it its wonderful dynamic…it’s soul. Perfectly made pieces that could be artful, but made by machine lack this trait, IMO. Although also beautiful, they don’t quite have the “life” as a piece cut by hand. The customer didn’t care how I made it…he just needed one. I sent him both of em. He said he couldn’t tell the difference! 😬 Much thanks.

  • @danielpatterson864

    @danielpatterson864

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ramonartful I totally agree. Something that is made by hand, that is almost perfect....but not quite....has a special type of beauty about it. Machine made perfection lacks soul, and the appreciation for human talent, aka a craftsman. When I look at antiques I appreciate whoever made it, and therefore care for it greater as it can't be remade the same. Beautiful stuff Ramon and thanks for the lengthy reply!

  • @geef0813
    @geef08132 жыл бұрын

    Also do you have a link to that tiny bit?

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    2 жыл бұрын

    Google search Golden Coulee or Temo. The 1/32” bit is item number 3145. Thanks

  • @geef0813

    @geef0813

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ramonartful awesome. I’ve been wanting one that small but hadn’t been successful in finding one I trusted.

  • @tonyennis1787
    @tonyennis178710 ай бұрын

    Spyderco Delica 4 is my EDC

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    10 ай бұрын

    Love Spyderco Delica. I prefer the older style (been carrying these since early nineties!) that have a thicker blade. When I first began purchasing these, they were 28 bucks 😬

  • @tonyennis1787

    @tonyennis1787

    10 ай бұрын

    @@ramonartful I got mine sometime around 2005. The blade on mine is pretty stout. It was more than $28. I have the FRN scales on mine. Sounds like you've had a few, I've only had the one I carry now.

  • @geef0813
    @geef08132 жыл бұрын

    What offset did you use?

  • @ramonartful

    @ramonartful

    2 жыл бұрын

    If I remember correctly, zero! But it could probably use .001”. I wanted a super tight fit and had to arch the pieces into place! Risky 😆