Unequal payment for the same job. Two dogs tested in the Clever Dog Lab at VETMEDUNI Vienna, Austria.
Жүктеу.....
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@kingo_friver2 жыл бұрын
Hope he could get over this severe traumatic event and doing well.
@user-eu2qv6ht1r
2 жыл бұрын
We call it life.
@highkey_steeze2 жыл бұрын
That’s deep, I think most animals posses this level of thinking and comprehension, he even gave it a 2nd try hoping to get lucky before he said F it I’m not doing this crap for nothing.
@Davidnumber23
2 жыл бұрын
yeah he aint no mug 😆
@andiecox16202 жыл бұрын
I need to see the part where the dog gets all the snacks he missed out on
@robertjensen1048
Жыл бұрын
Sadly, not only did he not get all those snacks, but a week after this was taken he was hit by a car and died.
@jesterc.6763
Жыл бұрын
@@robertjensen1048 lol. 😢
@toxicmasculine77
Ай бұрын
😂😂
@andiecox1620
Ай бұрын
You bastard!!!! You bastard, nooooooo@@robertjensen1048
@tau5663 жыл бұрын
So dogs like humans don't like to be treated unfairly.
@lion25354 жыл бұрын
he aint working for free thats for sure
@suwan19863 жыл бұрын
you can't say work like a dog anymore, even dog know its value
@zemtek4206 ай бұрын
End mistake giving a dog a treat after not complying with a request, but I understand what she was trying to do is make the end a positive experience for the dog so I commend her in that regard. I would just wait a minute or 2 or just do a different command and then treat to end the session on a positive note.
@ideabank.2 жыл бұрын
I am more curious if she gives the dog at the left 2 pieces but gives the dog at the right 1 piece
@brideofallunquietthings7992
2 жыл бұрын
Here is something similar. kzread.info/dash/bejne/n5mdt5iNqNzZc8o.html
@sunshinesweetlove..8066
2 жыл бұрын
She didn’t give the dog on the right any treats so it decided to protest and lay down. 😂
@EroticOnion23
8 ай бұрын
@@sunshinesweetlove..8066 he's saying they should do a different experiment
@zemtek420
6 ай бұрын
@ideabank. I might have to try this with our dogs.
@yassersalamaa4 жыл бұрын
He is like " naaaah it does not worth it "
@litote92 жыл бұрын
After going on strike, the dog later formed a trade union and picketed the lab.
@bobafeet1234Ай бұрын
Amazing! Dogs understand the meaning of life... nothing is fair.
@nuclearguitar7792 жыл бұрын
The dog finally said I ain't working for free!
@RobertitoF13 жыл бұрын
But we would also need to see how long the dog persists when they are both unrewarded in order to determine if it's related to inequality. It could just be that the dog loses interest when there's no food, which is my experience with dogs.
@coldbacon4869
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that this experiment has been done over and over and with dogs too, pretty much just shows it’s a “fairness” thing imo
@noamto
3 жыл бұрын
@@coldbacon4869 It was? How do you know?
@coldbacon4869
3 жыл бұрын
@@noamto this isn’t the first iteration of this test. It’s pretty old. Just look up fairness test in animals and you can it done before.
@coldbacon4869
3 жыл бұрын
@@noamto now that I remember it was done with monkeys and I believe when the same test was done, the monkey who didn’t get the same treat as the other monkey threw it back and tried to reach for the other one.
@AnalyseThiswithIO
3 жыл бұрын
Would have been better if the 'untreated' dog growled or lashed out at the 'treat giver' or the recipient. That would have been a better evidence.
@johnrudloff6331 Жыл бұрын
That’s how I feel. Dog on right.
@Tijaayy2 жыл бұрын
imagine if the time after she stopped she would've got one but she quit too early
@richardgolden43152 жыл бұрын
"Nope, I am good, not treat, no tricks"
@roger_isaksson2 жыл бұрын
Wut, no goodies for me? Imma chill… 🤣👍
@sanahaskuranage80712 жыл бұрын
My dog would have started arguing
@zemtek420
6 ай бұрын
Must be a relative of my Ruby Doo. lmao
@d-rockpain42502 жыл бұрын
what if a pack of dogs have independant measurable tasks throughout the week, and 1st place gets a bonus? Will the dogs compete for the bonus?
@sheky275
2 жыл бұрын
No
@lightcircles9962 жыл бұрын
she is a submissive dog, not protesting. very sweet. If this was an Alpha female she would bark.
@Adrian-tl8lo2 жыл бұрын
"... bro what" - The dog probably
@Darkyahweh2 жыл бұрын
Someone explain my dogs. He just goes after his sister if she gets anything. I give same treats but he is bigger.
@NatureBoyMickFlair2 жыл бұрын
0:43 Pretty sure that's the dog equivalent of: "You got me fucked up!"
@runnyhunny7862 жыл бұрын
Yep, dogs will sulk or ignore you, just like kids do.
@robertjensen10482 жыл бұрын
They left out part where the angry one snuck into her room late at night and ate her.
@yukers
2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@paullee15212 жыл бұрын
Aside, from what it shows in these dogs... are you trying to send a bigger message? Or is it simply, that a dog won't do something unless there is food involved.
@hungryallmylife2 жыл бұрын
Poor pupper
@actualpicofmybrain84822 жыл бұрын
GIVE SAD BOI TREATS
@MohamedRamadan-qt2ld4 жыл бұрын
اللي جاي من الدحيح ؟؟ 😂
@tomelder23582 жыл бұрын
Dirty pool! :-)
@tom32941462 жыл бұрын
I can't be the only one thinking she looks exactly like the girl from Snake Discovery right? is it her?
@Fritbjorn10 ай бұрын
awe, I so don't mind this experiment on monkeys but doing it on dogs is just mean.
@Davidnumber232 жыл бұрын
took his ball home
@MudRogue2 жыл бұрын
To the dog not getting the treats, I think you need to hire a lawyer. It is obvious you are being discriminated against.
@I_am_milan3 жыл бұрын
You can't even pull it on a dog 🥴
@koochamonster2 жыл бұрын
yeah great, that dog has PTSD now
@TinkerTailorSoldier12 жыл бұрын
You owe me back pay!
@JohnDoe-fn6zd2 жыл бұрын
Unequal treatment and expected reactions
@FreeAssange3 жыл бұрын
Isn't that more like "extinction"? In the classical conditioning sense?
@AxelZaore
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Involves extinction in the sense that the response is no longer elicited because of the lack of reinforcement.
@hughjanus71762 жыл бұрын
What if one dog founds Amazon and the other dog is just a line worker there? Will he accept unequal payments then?
@CoderDmitri
Жыл бұрын
lol... you do realise that Amazon, and many other companies like Atlassian for example, ran at a loss for 20 years straight... ANY MORON can set up a business that loses millions per year and eventually will become a monopoly because ALL other business, who (HAD TO MAKE PROFIT) were wiped out by the Mr Amazon, who was supplied with infinite amounts of money... The world is made By The Rich, For the Rich... ALL of this BS, about them starting 'poor' is total BS, because they need to sell books and movies, so they use the classic 'heroes journey' to make it appealing to the middle class... Check out Atlassian corp, AirBnB, DataDog, Uber, Lyft, SquareSpace, Many Pharams - ALL have not made a single cent in profit for the past 2 DECADES... Yet, their founders are Billionaires and live in mansion... YET, I have to pay back my shitty 'fake holiday loan' which I used for investing into a stock market when it was good... and I can NOT burrow more, till I repay my previous one... ANYONE can do what Amazon, Atlassian, Tesla did... as long as you are 'in the club' that gives you access to the money printer... so do NOT give me this Amazon Success Bull Sht!!!
@yukers2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't she give her some dog treats at the end of the experiment and praise her instead of taking the bowl of food away. That's just mentally cruel.
@obrien1982byron2 жыл бұрын
Man I can't stand to see dogs suffer in any way even this small infringement makes me feel bad for the dog on the right.
@LonewolfyXD2 жыл бұрын
Humans already understand dogs so I just knocked it off because humans shouldn't be treating dogs like this.
@ryder112jane2 жыл бұрын
Why isn’t she giving the dog on the right treats
@deetin36582 жыл бұрын
That's so mean
@dustintacohands11072 жыл бұрын
0:34 you jerk I trusted you again
@drained117711 ай бұрын
Theres a monkey version. He goes bat shit crazy, similar to a human.
@musicnoob64582 жыл бұрын
Hmm.. this test seems to be flawed. The dog isn't getting rewarded at all. So is the dog really reacting to inequality or is it just reacting to not getting rewarded for it's behavior.
@Davidnumber23
2 жыл бұрын
it knows its inequality ( out of order in dog language) because its watching the other get fed the rewards that it wouldn't know about if it wasn't.
@musicnoob6458
2 жыл бұрын
@@Davidnumber23 doesn't mean the dog sees it as inequality.
@Davidnumber23
2 жыл бұрын
@@musicnoob6458 until you share your knowledge of dog language we will never know.
@musicnoob6458
2 жыл бұрын
@@Davidnumber23 since you're so knowledgeable about dog language that obligation falls on you buddy. If you are interested in some education watch the same experiment done on two monkey's. That is a much more conveniencing experiment.
@Davidnumber23
2 жыл бұрын
@@musicnoob6458 I think people with brains who saw things like the monkey vid wayy wayyy back would read it as you being the one talking with dogs oh dog whisperer, you just lost context like you lost your mind on the internet. Now stop being a tool with your "conveniencing"
@sergiosanchez37342 жыл бұрын
Hommie don't play.
@MrScoobydoo122 жыл бұрын
That Dogs smarter than most people
@rahul20002 жыл бұрын
dhokha
@maxdemontbron97202 жыл бұрын
Scientists can be so cruel
@desiguy552 жыл бұрын
thats also like unfairness in the USA except people being rewarded never earned it.
@Jagar_Tharn
Жыл бұрын
Yeah man. Remember this post when automation takes your final job and you are forced to take handouts to live.
@tomsimpson53172 жыл бұрын
Thats mean
@MsRoadtoRiches4 жыл бұрын
The dog is right. WTF is this shit?
@k225 Жыл бұрын
FAULTY TEST! The dog would lose interest and stop complying, even without seeing the other dog get rewards. All this shows is that the dog decided the human was unreliable - nothing to do with any sense of fairness or inequality. There are other experiments about how dogs understand pointing and stop responding to individuals who point at nothing, but continue to respond to trustworthy people and novel people with no reputation for being unreliable.
@TinToeTimmyTime
Жыл бұрын
You first teach them with treats but once learned and adapted a command will be followed once given w/o the expectation of immediate reward. A trained adult dog will follow a learned command dozens of times over. She did it three times before the dog stopped participating and laid down In exasperation. (And yes, dogs can be irritated) Dogs are intelligent, sentient beings. That live in family bonded hierarchical packs and work alongside humans in many complex tasks requiring obedience, attentiveness, and initiative. There’s nothing faulty about this test. They could have started with showing each dog alone, following a command repeatedly then moving to the inequality… but it’s unnecessary. We know how dogs behave bc we bred them to behave that way.
@zemtek420
6 ай бұрын
@@TinToeTimmyTime actually you are both right. This is definitely a faulty test and dogs do learn who is trustworthy and who is not. How ever you are absolutely correct dogs are very smart and are very intune with human emotion. I have been teaching dogs for over 30 years. My own Ruby Doo knows over 60 service dog commands, 20 objects and 5 rooms by name. A better way to perform this experiment is to one day give treats next day dont give treats and see how many times before that dog says screw it. Do this for a couple weeks for each dog. Now you will have a baseline for each dog for this part of the experiment in the video to actually show dogs do not like unequality.
@Vulpes_Inculta3 жыл бұрын
That's your dogs so called "unconditional love" for you peta freaks. XD
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Hope he could get over this severe traumatic event and doing well.
@user-eu2qv6ht1r
2 жыл бұрын
We call it life.
That’s deep, I think most animals posses this level of thinking and comprehension, he even gave it a 2nd try hoping to get lucky before he said F it I’m not doing this crap for nothing.
@Davidnumber23
2 жыл бұрын
yeah he aint no mug 😆
I need to see the part where the dog gets all the snacks he missed out on
@robertjensen1048
Жыл бұрын
Sadly, not only did he not get all those snacks, but a week after this was taken he was hit by a car and died.
@jesterc.6763
Жыл бұрын
@@robertjensen1048 lol. 😢
@toxicmasculine77
Ай бұрын
😂😂
@andiecox1620
Ай бұрын
You bastard!!!! You bastard, nooooooo@@robertjensen1048
So dogs like humans don't like to be treated unfairly.
he aint working for free thats for sure
you can't say work like a dog anymore, even dog know its value
End mistake giving a dog a treat after not complying with a request, but I understand what she was trying to do is make the end a positive experience for the dog so I commend her in that regard. I would just wait a minute or 2 or just do a different command and then treat to end the session on a positive note.
I am more curious if she gives the dog at the left 2 pieces but gives the dog at the right 1 piece
@brideofallunquietthings7992
2 жыл бұрын
Here is something similar. kzread.info/dash/bejne/n5mdt5iNqNzZc8o.html
@sunshinesweetlove..8066
2 жыл бұрын
She didn’t give the dog on the right any treats so it decided to protest and lay down. 😂
@EroticOnion23
8 ай бұрын
@@sunshinesweetlove..8066 he's saying they should do a different experiment
@zemtek420
6 ай бұрын
@ideabank. I might have to try this with our dogs.
He is like " naaaah it does not worth it "
After going on strike, the dog later formed a trade union and picketed the lab.
Amazing! Dogs understand the meaning of life... nothing is fair.
The dog finally said I ain't working for free!
But we would also need to see how long the dog persists when they are both unrewarded in order to determine if it's related to inequality. It could just be that the dog loses interest when there's no food, which is my experience with dogs.
@coldbacon4869
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that this experiment has been done over and over and with dogs too, pretty much just shows it’s a “fairness” thing imo
@noamto
3 жыл бұрын
@@coldbacon4869 It was? How do you know?
@coldbacon4869
3 жыл бұрын
@@noamto this isn’t the first iteration of this test. It’s pretty old. Just look up fairness test in animals and you can it done before.
@coldbacon4869
3 жыл бұрын
@@noamto now that I remember it was done with monkeys and I believe when the same test was done, the monkey who didn’t get the same treat as the other monkey threw it back and tried to reach for the other one.
@AnalyseThiswithIO
3 жыл бұрын
Would have been better if the 'untreated' dog growled or lashed out at the 'treat giver' or the recipient. That would have been a better evidence.
That’s how I feel. Dog on right.
imagine if the time after she stopped she would've got one but she quit too early
"Nope, I am good, not treat, no tricks"
Wut, no goodies for me? Imma chill… 🤣👍
My dog would have started arguing
@zemtek420
6 ай бұрын
Must be a relative of my Ruby Doo. lmao
what if a pack of dogs have independant measurable tasks throughout the week, and 1st place gets a bonus? Will the dogs compete for the bonus?
@sheky275
2 жыл бұрын
No
she is a submissive dog, not protesting. very sweet. If this was an Alpha female she would bark.
"... bro what" - The dog probably
Someone explain my dogs. He just goes after his sister if she gets anything. I give same treats but he is bigger.
0:43 Pretty sure that's the dog equivalent of: "You got me fucked up!"
Yep, dogs will sulk or ignore you, just like kids do.
They left out part where the angry one snuck into her room late at night and ate her.
@yukers
2 жыл бұрын
🤣
Aside, from what it shows in these dogs... are you trying to send a bigger message? Or is it simply, that a dog won't do something unless there is food involved.
Poor pupper
GIVE SAD BOI TREATS
اللي جاي من الدحيح ؟؟ 😂
Dirty pool! :-)
I can't be the only one thinking she looks exactly like the girl from Snake Discovery right? is it her?
awe, I so don't mind this experiment on monkeys but doing it on dogs is just mean.
took his ball home
To the dog not getting the treats, I think you need to hire a lawyer. It is obvious you are being discriminated against.
You can't even pull it on a dog 🥴
yeah great, that dog has PTSD now
You owe me back pay!
Unequal treatment and expected reactions
Isn't that more like "extinction"? In the classical conditioning sense?
@AxelZaore
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Involves extinction in the sense that the response is no longer elicited because of the lack of reinforcement.
What if one dog founds Amazon and the other dog is just a line worker there? Will he accept unequal payments then?
@CoderDmitri
Жыл бұрын
lol... you do realise that Amazon, and many other companies like Atlassian for example, ran at a loss for 20 years straight... ANY MORON can set up a business that loses millions per year and eventually will become a monopoly because ALL other business, who (HAD TO MAKE PROFIT) were wiped out by the Mr Amazon, who was supplied with infinite amounts of money... The world is made By The Rich, For the Rich... ALL of this BS, about them starting 'poor' is total BS, because they need to sell books and movies, so they use the classic 'heroes journey' to make it appealing to the middle class... Check out Atlassian corp, AirBnB, DataDog, Uber, Lyft, SquareSpace, Many Pharams - ALL have not made a single cent in profit for the past 2 DECADES... Yet, their founders are Billionaires and live in mansion... YET, I have to pay back my shitty 'fake holiday loan' which I used for investing into a stock market when it was good... and I can NOT burrow more, till I repay my previous one... ANYONE can do what Amazon, Atlassian, Tesla did... as long as you are 'in the club' that gives you access to the money printer... so do NOT give me this Amazon Success Bull Sht!!!
Why didn't she give her some dog treats at the end of the experiment and praise her instead of taking the bowl of food away. That's just mentally cruel.
Man I can't stand to see dogs suffer in any way even this small infringement makes me feel bad for the dog on the right.
Humans already understand dogs so I just knocked it off because humans shouldn't be treating dogs like this.
Why isn’t she giving the dog on the right treats
That's so mean
0:34 you jerk I trusted you again
Theres a monkey version. He goes bat shit crazy, similar to a human.
Hmm.. this test seems to be flawed. The dog isn't getting rewarded at all. So is the dog really reacting to inequality or is it just reacting to not getting rewarded for it's behavior.
@Davidnumber23
2 жыл бұрын
it knows its inequality ( out of order in dog language) because its watching the other get fed the rewards that it wouldn't know about if it wasn't.
@musicnoob6458
2 жыл бұрын
@@Davidnumber23 doesn't mean the dog sees it as inequality.
@Davidnumber23
2 жыл бұрын
@@musicnoob6458 until you share your knowledge of dog language we will never know.
@musicnoob6458
2 жыл бұрын
@@Davidnumber23 since you're so knowledgeable about dog language that obligation falls on you buddy. If you are interested in some education watch the same experiment done on two monkey's. That is a much more conveniencing experiment.
@Davidnumber23
2 жыл бұрын
@@musicnoob6458 I think people with brains who saw things like the monkey vid wayy wayyy back would read it as you being the one talking with dogs oh dog whisperer, you just lost context like you lost your mind on the internet. Now stop being a tool with your "conveniencing"
Hommie don't play.
That Dogs smarter than most people
dhokha
Scientists can be so cruel
thats also like unfairness in the USA except people being rewarded never earned it.
@Jagar_Tharn
Жыл бұрын
Yeah man. Remember this post when automation takes your final job and you are forced to take handouts to live.
Thats mean
The dog is right. WTF is this shit?
FAULTY TEST! The dog would lose interest and stop complying, even without seeing the other dog get rewards. All this shows is that the dog decided the human was unreliable - nothing to do with any sense of fairness or inequality. There are other experiments about how dogs understand pointing and stop responding to individuals who point at nothing, but continue to respond to trustworthy people and novel people with no reputation for being unreliable.
@TinToeTimmyTime
Жыл бұрын
You first teach them with treats but once learned and adapted a command will be followed once given w/o the expectation of immediate reward. A trained adult dog will follow a learned command dozens of times over. She did it three times before the dog stopped participating and laid down In exasperation. (And yes, dogs can be irritated) Dogs are intelligent, sentient beings. That live in family bonded hierarchical packs and work alongside humans in many complex tasks requiring obedience, attentiveness, and initiative. There’s nothing faulty about this test. They could have started with showing each dog alone, following a command repeatedly then moving to the inequality… but it’s unnecessary. We know how dogs behave bc we bred them to behave that way.
@zemtek420
6 ай бұрын
@@TinToeTimmyTime actually you are both right. This is definitely a faulty test and dogs do learn who is trustworthy and who is not. How ever you are absolutely correct dogs are very smart and are very intune with human emotion. I have been teaching dogs for over 30 years. My own Ruby Doo knows over 60 service dog commands, 20 objects and 5 rooms by name. A better way to perform this experiment is to one day give treats next day dont give treats and see how many times before that dog says screw it. Do this for a couple weeks for each dog. Now you will have a baseline for each dog for this part of the experiment in the video to actually show dogs do not like unequality.
That's your dogs so called "unconditional love" for you peta freaks. XD