Capuchin monkey fairness experiment
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This was clipped out of recent TED talk given by Frans de Waal regarding moral behavior in animals. In a nut shell we get to observe reaction and response of two Capuchin monkey when they receive different reward for same type of work. www.ted.com/talks/frans_de_waa...
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Lmao the way he shakes the cage "I DEMAND JUSTICE!!!"
@longshot5866
2 жыл бұрын
That's actually a she and she's not taking anyone shit.
@plowking813
2 жыл бұрын
grapes matters
@aurazero0
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@chrism.1749
2 жыл бұрын
NO JUSTICE NO PEACE!! 🐵 🍇 🍉 🍗 👟
@hehe8948
Жыл бұрын
Haha😂
I once had a boss show this to me as an example of why we shouldn't know each others' pay. Like we both didn't just watch the same video of a person getting screwed for absolutely no reason lol. To me this is a clear argument for transparency, not against it.
@jaimemiguelquintela2550
2 жыл бұрын
Best comment here!
@hamluk_
2 жыл бұрын
@ChattyPablo no
@hamluk_
2 жыл бұрын
@ChattyPablo no
@hamluk_
2 жыл бұрын
@ChattyPablo well anyone "can" do anything. this about "should." that's not a good reason at all.
@crazykindor6439
2 жыл бұрын
I guess in the work relations we should be only concerned about what we earn related to what we do. No matter what other people earn or do. At the end, the ones who do less than what they're payed for will lose their job at some point, while the one who does more than what he earn may get some income raise at some point. I always work measuring that I MUST do the best to deserve my earnings, as a means to wether I clain an income adjust, maybe showing the possibility of leaving the enterprise, the boss answers GIVING me it. That's exactly why I earn more than my job mate do.
I like how he cocks his forearm back to through the cucumber with maximum force.
@user-yr3kd2ig2m
10 ай бұрын
"I like how he *cocks* his forearm back" - LOL.
@MrMoose233
6 ай бұрын
But he doesn't throw the rock for some reason. Like it still has hope for the grape exchange. I feel like advertisers and gambling businesses use this tactic of having an idea or instance of an exemplary winner. But through our actions we only get the "cucumber"
the way the ape tries to break the cage tho, like "DOWN WITH THE BOURGEAISIE!"
@jimmy_os
3 жыл бұрын
monke*
@renantrindade9049
2 жыл бұрын
"Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité!!!!!"
@MrDaros89
2 жыл бұрын
@@renantrindade9049 GRAAAAAPES!
@Mrjmaxted0291
2 жыл бұрын
Monkeys of all cages, unite! You have nothing to lose butt your chains!
@luminatron
2 жыл бұрын
bourgeoisie
The point is the monkey probably wouldn't react like this IF he didn't see the other monkey getting the grape. What makes me so different from the other monkey that I can't also get the grape? It's not fair. He's got a point
@mentak2593
7 ай бұрын
I suppose that’s what the experiment shows but I can also imagine being similarly frustrated with this even without the other monkey. Like if you’re correctly following the instructions and not getting the end result 😅
Monkey shaking the cage: I want to talk to my lawyer!!!!!!
HE JUST WANTS A GRAPE, IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK?
@bilingualtongue
6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I know your comment was posted a year ago, but I thought you would like to know that they have done that experiment as well. Same result. They also did an experiment with monkeys where they had monkeys give a token to someone in exchange for grapes. Later, they added another researcher who gave one or two more grapes than the other researcher and they discovered the monkeys would go to the researcher who gave out more grapes. Then, they took out the original two researchers and put in three new researchers (all of them giving out different amounts of grapes). They found that the monkeys went to the researcher who they perceived would give them more grapes and that the monkeys would get angry if they perceived they were not getting enough grapes. All these experiments are totally legitimate.
@OtaniNoAsagi
5 жыл бұрын
the bujeezis always gotta be one doesn’t there. That guy.
@doel89
5 жыл бұрын
@@jbinpo this is ti the concept of fairness not whether they could count and do math
@paull330
5 жыл бұрын
@@jbinpo It is a test of fairness, because you're giving the monkeys an unequal reward for the same work, which is unfair, which means you're testing whether or not the monkeys have an understanding of fairness in how they react to being treated unfairly.
@AnNguyen-rk5uz
4 жыл бұрын
Stupid
The monkey was like "Da fuck why the hell you giving me this shit again " lol !
I watched this for my positive psychology class when we worked on the SCARF model (The F in SCARF means fairness). I honestly would've reacted in a very similar way. Especially if chocolate was involved.
@FabulousJejmaze
2 жыл бұрын
chocolate is bad for you
@eduardochiscuet3146
2 жыл бұрын
@@FabulousJejmaze **starts trying to break out of the cage** GIB CHOCOLAT
@bmprimer7809
Жыл бұрын
you would kill 985 people to peep the horror?
@Awildyit
7 ай бұрын
@@eduardochiscuet3146remember
@germanoschefo
14 күн бұрын
i dont like chocolate but i know what you mean, deep inside we all are like this
I wonder if Jeff bezos films his workers at Amazon and laughs at them the way this crowd laughs at this monkey?
@germanoschefo
14 күн бұрын
i can imagine that xD
That's funny but also sad. I hope the cucumber monkey got plenty of grapes after the experiment.
@iRazenrak
6 ай бұрын
Generally, trial monkeys are treated very well. And in cases where they have to associate something with mistreatment, in this case delivering rocks, they make sure not to expose them to rocks afterward due to the negative association.
@hannamialik3060
28 күн бұрын
Yes, she did. I heard it in a full video.
I hate it when they get my order wrong, too.
@evanstewart4654
3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
Homo Deus sent me
@RadekSzabla
4 жыл бұрын
Brandon Austin im from poland Yuval made my day today.
@stanleynyoro3181
3 жыл бұрын
Me too now.. A bit late
@abhisheksah2961
3 жыл бұрын
I guess I am the latest one here!
@Phillip1220
3 жыл бұрын
abhishek sah me too
@proxz14
3 жыл бұрын
@@abhisheksah2961 Perhaps you are not lol
me watching this on loop before a psych final: ah. yes. studying
Sigma Rule Number 14: slap your food on the ground when experiencing inequality
If I asked for grapes and got ripped off, I'd be pissed, too.
Me at 11 PM: Ok one more video and I will go to sleep Me 4 hours later:
I first had to watch this video for one of my college psychology classes. During my last semester, I had this statistics-based class that involved computer programs to solve homework problems (SPSS, R-Studio, etc.). Coincidentally one of the assignments involved scientific data from monkeys receiving grapes at different times during experimentation. I briefly talked about this video near the end of class and everybody was laughing. They couldn't imagine how pissed the cucumber monkey was feeling after he threw it.😂
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@user-rx4uw4qq1i
4 жыл бұрын
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4 жыл бұрын
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4 жыл бұрын
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@AnNguyen-rk5uz
4 жыл бұрын
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@nguao523
4 жыл бұрын
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0:44 Alright, finally 0:48 ...oh no...you did not... Samantha wtf!
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@nguyenduyhoang3311
4 жыл бұрын
Ohma Zi-o lmao same
@linhnguyenthe4547
4 жыл бұрын
SAME
@PhucNguyen-qf7on
4 жыл бұрын
Hihi
@Lam-Shrimp
4 жыл бұрын
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@dpsgaming9185
3 жыл бұрын
Hi
Now, I understand street protest we are coded to demand fairness...
when you find out your co worker makes more for doing the same job
@inbox0000
Жыл бұрын
or does less for the same rate
I was looking for this video forever! thank you for putting it up
@AG058
2 жыл бұрын
u still alive?
You can see that we really are very close to other primates in the evolutionary tree. The way she threw the cucumber reminded me of how humans threw rotten tomatoes. The way she shook the cage was just like how someone pissed off would shake a jammed gate or door. And even how she tried to investigate what she was doing wrong by checking the rock shows intelligence and an understanding of the concept of fairness and injustice. Injustice that she was doing the same and yet was given a lesser prize and she had a sense of fairness that logically she should be receiving something of equal value.
This experiment represents only half of the concept. The complimentary experiment should be asking the first monkey to deliver 2 rocks for a red grape and then giving a red grape to the second monkey for delivering just one rock. I wonder how soon or even if the first monkey would realize they're getting paid only half of what the second monkey is getting paid. Good stuff indeed.
I can watch this video all day long
Poor monke, they’d better have given them lots of grapes after being played like that.
@suzigraham3098
5 ай бұрын
That's what I want to know!! Did the other monkey FINALLY get a grape?!?!
it's so cute to see the little monkey get angry like that
@kiwimontoya
Жыл бұрын
Notice how the other one didn't give him grape neither to counter injustice
OMFGG LOOOOOL @ WHEN IT SHAKES THE CAGE HAHAHA! I'm DYING!!!!!!!!
Who came here from Harari's book "Homo Deus"?
@krisyannuruha5147
4 жыл бұрын
I did too.. Hello
@stanleynyoro3181
3 жыл бұрын
Me
this begs the question: is morality innate?
@javigd96
2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't beg but kinda answers it. That's what the experiment is about, the concept of fairness and how inteligent animals clearly have it.
@Joe-jc5ol
2 жыл бұрын
Personal interest created morality. Personal interest if my sibling is getting grapes, I want grapes too. So my sibling or whoever it is better make room for me otherwise I will get pissed and stir up trouble. That is how and why we created fairness rules to keep the peace. In my opinion anyway.
OMG, read the transcript!
This is how Uber drivers feel. 🐒
i want to see the full experiment video
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.29 second mark is hysterical "let me at her!!!"
When AI has taken over the world they will make such funny games with us.
Now imagine being the monkey that does 3 times the work gets a piece of cucumber from which the researcher takes a bite first and then it watches the other monkey get 2 grapes for doing nothing. This is how the middle class is, maybe even worse.
@johnx140
6 ай бұрын
Lmao in what world is this true. No one gets paid for doing nothing.
@FatherFH
6 ай бұрын
@@johnx140 welcome to Canada. Some People here are paid to do drugs for free. There are programs where the govt pays for a taxi so that the guy living on welfare can go take his drugs safely. While the tax payers keep getting taxed to death. If you make too much much money you are taxed over 50% plus deductions.
I've done this with people and it is actually very interesting, give someone a 30 dollar gift then turn around and give someone else a gift worth 200 see what happens lol
@JoeMisseri
2 жыл бұрын
And....?
Comedic gold how she throws that cucumber
what if she gave both cucumber and ate the grape?
Notice how the other monkey didn't give up any of its grapes when it saw the scam?
I hope they may a longer video, this is so satisfying to watch!!?:)
@dmitryd5865
Жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. I don't know why, but watching a monkey suffering from injustice feels so good
The irony of people laughing
I want to know if the other monkey FINALLY got a grape after the experiment. FYI The monkeys are NOT kept in these "cubicles". These arw specifically for tests, and teaching. See the door behind them? After yhey are done the monkeys rejoin others in a large area of tree like branches, swings, and toys. Water is always available as well.
If a monkey knows what fair and just is, we people have become the real animals….
I looked for this after seeing it on The Soup.
You give that monkey the grape!
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When I found out my male colleague with exact same job earned way more than me.
@sidgar1
10 ай бұрын
Or me when I found out my white colleague with exact same job earned way more than me. Companies will pay you as little as they can get away with. You have to negotiate for better pay during the hiring process, or at your yearly evaluations, and if they still won't give you a raise, just walk.
It's funny the first time. The second time it's sad because these monkeys could be enjoying the wild. I hope they at least gave the first monkey a big bowl of grapes at the end!
@TheRafark
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@mentak2593
Жыл бұрын
He says in the full video that the monkeys live together in a habitat but were just caged for the experiment
"It looks like a cucumber to you, but you know what this is lady, this is BULLSHIT"
I believe they’re sentient.
Has the Capuchin had grapes prior to this? It is obvious there maybe other factors manipulating the reaction of the left one.
Ok! I understand.
This is such a random clip. I never searched for it
"Stop fucking with me Pat, I want the damn grape!"
I love our simian cousins. They share our inate sense of justice and fairness!
@atticstattic
10 ай бұрын
More like we share theirs, it's probably where we got it.
@jt7638
10 ай бұрын
@@atticstattic we are VERY distant cousins. Not descendants.
@atticstattic
10 ай бұрын
@@jt7638 Never said we were - we share a common ancestor.
Số người từ clip gian lận qua đây --->
@hatbut
4 жыл бұрын
hello đồng chí
You don't understand the context in which fairness is being used in the experiment.....
That chicks troll game is strong.
Aimed and pointed at human. Like "take this shit"... Monkey felt played.
It`s being fed cucumbers just for handing a rock back. The fact that it`s willing to throw perfectly good food away just because it wants something sweeter shows that it`s well fed. The monkeys are neither too docile or too aggressive(they`re curious about their environment and eager to work with the scientist, but also aren`t afraid to show their displeasure), so they`re not being abused. I don`t see what the problem is here. You act like they`re being tortured, rather than being fed.
@TheRafark
2 жыл бұрын
It is torture though. Subtle but torture anyway. It made me feel extremely uneasy. They’re making the monkey feel pain on purpose. That’s torture. Give the god darn monkey his friggin grape!
@dekippiesip
Жыл бұрын
@@TheRafark it's not that bad if this is just a small experiment and they freed the monkey shortly after. If these monkeys are being kept in prolonged captivity for the sake of further experiments, that would absolutely be wrong. Not only that, but it would harm the legitimacy of the research, as your monkeys diverge significantly from those in the wild.
@Alex13501
Жыл бұрын
@@TheRafark Torture would be, if they sliced its head open and poke the brain while the monkey still being conscious, that would be torture.
Monke: Get me outta this cage and lemme teach u
The other one didn't even get a grape :( Poor baby.
Mama’s last hug i read so i can find this video It’s very fun
This is the fundamental mechanism of racism. Divide people and treat both sides unequally making one side privileged and the other side deprived. Both sides will worry about each other rather than the rulers who set this up. Woke antiracists do not like this at all. They serve the rulers and dividers. To them the monkey with the grape is the oppressor, not the human treating them unfairly. Do this repeatedly and them one day remove the divider in the cage. See what happens.
@nehriim3748
11 ай бұрын
Its funny because you are fairly right. But to you the group you are mad at are "woke antiracists", instead of the billionaires that are ruining your life. You too are indoctrinated by the media that tells you to be mad about the "woke antiracists" instead of the people who basically own you like a slave. You are participating in the system you seem to despise. You are what you yourself complain about.
@thepeopleschamp9076
8 ай бұрын
You mean classism, not racism. Mainly because you can never change your race, so it wouldn't work in the scenario you imagined. Class is different.
@rupertchappelle5303
8 ай бұрын
@@thepeopleschamp9076 just try to join the ruling class, I dares you. Divide and conquer, race, class, religion, hair, language, education - all used to keep the ruling class in rule and everyone else their property. Now you hear what the racists.say about white people - just swapped variables. "the ruling class are racist, privileged and supremacist" Substitute whoever you hate for the ruling class. That's how they keep ruling us.
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She's wearing a face shield. Already knows a throw might be coming
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LOL, this is pretty much my kids exactly.
@CommunistBot
10 ай бұрын
I know this is 6 years later and they're fully grown adults by now but you shouldn't keep your kids in cages 😕
난 왜 슬프냐..
I know that feel.
Capuchins and left wing people have all in Common (they have Common Sense and stand against oppresion)
I can’t stand how humans are just laughing , like everything is just ‘entertainment’ to them … like if someone is fighting they stop and watch and record instead of getting help or trying to stop it
@hovinke
2 жыл бұрын
that might have something to do with survival instinct. Whats going on with human right now, natural selection is probably the answer. We're all the descendant of the human that have the smartest, horniest, and best survival instinct. The nature shaped us this way, that's why we're thriving.
right..
You're keeping this monkey in a box for THIS?
who's here because your professor showed it on class?
I like to see animals in captivity, and experiencing weird stuffs on them. NAO U MAD BRO ?
I want that purple stuff
You removed the funny part of the video about this being just like the Wall Street protestors! That was the best part! :-0
Lol whoever came to this video after Shahbaz Gill's interview are legends. Shahbaz Gill gave interview in which he was saying that justice is important for society.❤
0:24 "Nah i hate these food! *KOBE!"*
moral of the story, give cucumber to all your employees
FOR CHRIST"S SAKE, WHERE CAN I FIND MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Been getting cucumber my whole damn life...
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂give her a grape
^ smart man here
Yeah man !
Hi
I hope that monkey got his well deserved grape later on.
I supported free trade, I supported Wall Street Bailout, because I thought there is a pact in US when corporations and wealthy share their spoils with their workers, but I was naive since most of them proved to be greedy pigs who could never have enough. Which is too bad for them because sooner or later populous revolt from either Left or Right will clamp down on Free Trade & Wall Street and while this may not be economically efficient, people don't care about economic efficiency they care about what is fair! And the sense of fairness is so ingrained that not only humans, but other animals profoundly share it as you can see from this experiment.
Today I was face to same situation wioh 2 cats because I gave liver that cat love, other one was ungry to me and I understood that this experience has false interpretation. It's not because you give better to other one that he is hangry to you. It's only because he love the other food and he want to have it because he has now choice. He said you I want this food and throw other one to insist on. It's not about compararaison
@oonai5000
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think you got the experiment. Of course she wants the grape because she likes it. But as you can see, she only gets mad after giving back the rock, because she expects the same food as the other monkey got for giving back the rock.
GAT anyone?
@imsitting
5 жыл бұрын
OMG YES
Not shown here. Some monkeys actually refused the grape after seeing the other one getting thr cucumber. But it was a minority
@thepeopleschamp9076
8 ай бұрын
CAP.
CONTRAPOINTS
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This is the origin story of a monkey supervillain
@alexojideagu
Жыл бұрын
Mojo Jo Jo
Monkeyfortnitey_1: "Ok bro i'm gonna give you rock back" *gets cucumber* "Oh hell yeah that the spot" Monkeynedbanana_56: "I give rok to yu human" *gets grape* "Now this better than cucumber"