Bruuuu…. That is completely different than what I was told in Protestant land. I am in RCIA and people like Fr. Mike have helped me so much.

@ComandoWitty

Жыл бұрын

keep your head up. the enemy will try their best to twist scripture into getting you to leave the truth. As someone who went through rcia and has ever sense studied more, the arguments protestants will use are either completely out of context or misconceptions

@samueltlaczani4494

Жыл бұрын

@@ComandoWitty whats rica?

@ComandoWitty

Жыл бұрын

@@samueltlaczani4494 RCIA is an adult class for people who want to become Catholic. I went through RCIA about 2 years ago. I honestly had an amazing experience. Here you learn the basics of the Catholic faith. You learn why we believe what we believe. You learn things like why and how confession. Why Jesus did what he did. Etc. Tons of Good stuff.

@MCmclovin22

Жыл бұрын

Read the Bible don’t trust man trust Jesus

@ComandoWitty

Жыл бұрын

@@MCmclovin22 the issue wrong with that statement is is requires you to have trust in the men who have you the bible. For 300 years after Christ, we didn't have a Bible. They replied on the church Christ established to answer questions. The issue with Sola scriptura (scripture alone) is it leads to misinterpreting. It's like a kid with a math book saying "math book alone". I don't need the teacher to help me read it. Especially in these hard to understand parts.

Christ's One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church. I'm blessed 😇🙏✝️

@joshuajosephson9612

Жыл бұрын

Christ is one for all of us, catholic or baptist or evangelical , Pentecostal or Mormon. We are one cause we are praising the same God, don't we?

@joshuajosephson9612

Жыл бұрын

@Haskel well that's just sad mate, God bless ya'

@joshuajosephson9612

Жыл бұрын

@Haskel I am pentecostal, ex catholic. I was illuminated by how simple forgiveness can be in other religions and how the Catholic filosofy is simply regret and punishment, when Christ gave us total forgiveness. We just had to ask. Sorry, brother in Christ, I was hoping to get a middle point between our point of view. But you do you, and we'll meet in heaven if God deems so. Love ya', God bless

@joshuajosephson9612

Жыл бұрын

@Haskelthanks, mate. O was seriously doubting that one. English ain't my first language ya' know

@joshuajosephson9612

Жыл бұрын

@Haskel it doesn't stop them no, we have the will and the choice to do or to not do. We are free by order of God. But if we fail, as the lord says, he forgives us, but also punishes us

If God is complete and all powerful within logic and loves us, then why can't I go straight to Him for the healing the indulgences purports to provide access to? Why do I need to go to a middle man?

@kanehiro4635

Жыл бұрын

Our high priest forever is Jesus Christ, he is the only one who intercedes for us. Christ is who we must go to and not men. “The former priests, on the one hand, existed in greater numbers because they were prevented by death from continuing, but Jesus, on the other hand, because He continues forever, holds His priesthood permanently. Therefore He is able also to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. For it was fitting for us to have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens; who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself. For the Law appoints men as high priests who are weak, but the word of the oath, which came after the Law, appoints a Son, made perfect forever.” ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭7‬:‭23‬-‭28‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

@kanehiro4635

Жыл бұрын

Our middle man is God himself. Jesus Christ’s name is The Father’s. Father, Son, Holy Spirit are one and He’s the only true living God. We need Jesus Christ because He took all the sins of those who Believe in His name which is God’s name through Faith based on the Promise made to Abraham. Through that Promise there is salvation, salvation from what? Eternal separation from God (Hell) truthfully hell isn’t fire and what not, it is just void of emptiness and weeping and gnashing of teeth for all eternity because your soul will cry out to God and God will not remember you forever. Why are we separated from God? because Humanity disobeyed God and handed over the earth and everything God made for man to the Devil and now the devil not only enslaves us but separates us from God with our pointless everyday lives not knowing or seeking God because of Sin. The moment Man sinned, We were separated by ourselves because God is Holy and we are not so we no longer see Him, Know Him, Seek Him or want Him. Jesus Christ allows us to not only Choose Life, but we Choose God once more and we are sanctified, and made righteous through Faith in Him and not only that but He gives us a new heart and a new spirit that allows us to Know God, Seek God Love God, and call Him Father because we are His sons and daughter lost to Sin and separation from Him in Darkness. God not only wants to save you but wants to call us Son only if we choose Him that’s why He gave us Free will and He will not invade that otherwise God would be a Liar. God bless both of you with the opportunity to Choose Him and come to Him and remain with Him in Jesus Christ’s name Amen.

Thank you for the explanation. It's what I am longing to know for a long while. God bless you.

Could you share the Bible verse that says all this? Oh wait it’s not in the Bible that you have to pay money to the church to get out of hell

@robertajaycart3491

Жыл бұрын

They don't charge money for indulgences anymore and can you show me where Christ left us a book to read.

Egad! Did this guy seriously just say that the Church controls God's grace and who can/cannot be exposed to it?

@sawyerwhited6802

Жыл бұрын

@timflaners5017 I believe he did.

@imperatorxz

6 ай бұрын

No

Where in the bible do you get the idea that a financial transaction can right a wrong in the eyes of God?

@dominiquem1869

Жыл бұрын

In 1567 Pope Pius V canceled all grants of indulgences involving any fees or other financial transactions. Now, they’re typically granted by doing something along the lines of praying or reading the Bible for a specified time period

@alshang-yu9961

Жыл бұрын

Don't ask a catholic about the Bible reference because their doctrines are not biblical or partially twisted truth and we all know who taught them!

First, the church makes nothing possible. God does. Second, this was purgatory, which is temporary yet not in the Bible

@AthanSMaliakkal

Ай бұрын

Bible whish is temporary is not in the bible.

And how much does it cost per indulge? And how many does a person needs? And where can we purchase them?

Christ’s one Catholic, Apostolic, Holy, Universal Church.💛✝️🇻🇦

@pija9505

11 ай бұрын

That hates jews ? Oops !

Fr Mike said the trigger word, every Prottie bot comments automatically, “selling sin-free cards.” Stop reading Chick Tracts.

Only problem is its not Biblical. But when has that stopped the RCC? This worked a charm back when nobody was allowed to have a Bible eh?

@robertajaycart3491

Жыл бұрын

Show me from Scripture where Christ gave us a book to read?

@robsor85

Жыл бұрын

@@robertajaycart3491 Well Jesus was an expert on the Jewish scriptures. And who is the one talking in Revelation 1:3? Are you trying to make a case against the new testament or something? The gospels are eyewitness accounts which were inspired to be written down. Pauls writings were inspired to be written down and preserved like all the other books by God for 2000 years for us to learn from. They gel seamlessly with the old testament. The catholic church didn't like people reading Gods word for themselves because of the control they could have and the biggest jump in knowledge of God came when people risked their lives to print copies of the Bible which greatly upset the catholic church and lead to the increase in protestantism. This guy is obviously an apologist for erroneous catholic teachings and practices. So its no surprise to meet you here. You should probably read Jesus words in Mathew 7. Notice how we would have so much less of Jesus without the scriptures which speak of Him? Read His word and BELIEVE. REPENT. Follow Him not the pope.

@robertajaycart3491

Жыл бұрын

@robrob What did Christ leave us a church or a book? Being their is no table of contents in the Bible, Who decided which books in the Bible were considered infallible and how do you know which books are infallible. You say, the Catholic church didn't want people to read the Bible but how could they, the majority of people in the first 4 centuries were illiterate, they couldn't read. So now everyone has a Bible and how many Protestant churches are their now and the number keeps growing and you all fight amongst yourselves and have no unity, but yet Christ calls for this unity amongst all Christians. So it's no surprise to meet you here, your the ones trolling Catholic sites. I read his word, Christ started a church and gave his authority to his church. And before the Reformation, Christians were either Catholic or Orthodox, not Protestant. Erroneous teachings that many are found in Scripture.

@robsor85

Жыл бұрын

@@robertajaycart3491 no. You don't get to bash the Bible. Not answer what I said. And then try to take some sort of credit for the catholic church as if that justifies the heresies the catholic church has and still is responsible for. Scripture is inspired. It is given from God to whomever and whenever He sees fit for His purposes. The fact that the catholic church was involved at all at any point in time with this process should humble and instill awe and gratefulness. It was a crown that was taken off and trampled. That gift has been abused and twisted to form the catholic canon and you want to take pride in this fact? I repeat. Repent.

@robertajaycart3491

Жыл бұрын

@robrob I first prayed about it and then after the Holy Spirit led me to Catholicism. I did 10 years of research. Christ didn't leave us a Bible, he left a church, it's obvious from Scripture. So now everyone has a Bible and interprets it to each individual person sees to suit his need. Sola Scriptura or Bible alone has created nothing but division and this is the tough part, Sola Scriptura is not taught anywhere in the Bible. Especially when Christ calls for unity amongst Christians but it's Protestants who refuse unity with Catholics or unity with other Protestant groups. John 17:21 so that they may all be one, as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, that the world may believe that you sent me.m

TY for the clarification.

@Nick_Lamb

4 ай бұрын

Did you really find this satisfying?

Jesus Christ is the answer, if men take this task as theirs then Christ died for nothing; but in fact Christ is Truth and all must go to Him and not to men. “The former priests, on the one hand, existed in greater numbers because they were prevented by death from continuing, but Jesus, on the other hand, because He continues forever, holds His priesthood permanently. Therefore He is able also to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. For it was fitting for us to have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens; who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself. For the Law appoints men as high priests who are weak, but the word of the oath, which came after the Law, appoints a Son, made perfect forever.” ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭7‬:‭23‬-‭28‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

11 And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 BUT WHEN CHRIST HAD OFFERED FOR ALL TIME A SINGLE SACRIFICE FOR SINS , HE SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD , 13 waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet. 14 FOR BY A SINGLE OFFERING HE (CHRIST) HAS PERFECTED FOR ALL TIME THOSE WHO ARE BEING SANCTIFIED. 15 And the Holy Spirit also bears witness to us; for after saying, 16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws on their hearts, and write them on their minds,” 17 then he adds, “I will remember their sins and their lawless deeds no more.” 18 Where there is forgiveness of these, there is NO LONGER ANY OFFERING FOR SIN. Hebrews 10 11:18

@smartomboc

Жыл бұрын

amen

How about some scripture on that? Chapter and verse

@alshang-yu9961

Жыл бұрын

They can't do that, all they're doctrines are unbiblical.

@edmonddantes2745

Жыл бұрын

​@@alshang-yu9961 dawg we literally wrote the Bible

@matthours1783

Жыл бұрын

@@edmonddantes2745 didn’t know Moses was Roman Catholic

@edmonddantes2745

Жыл бұрын

@@matthours1783 he was, but I know youre being sarcastic. Moses wrote the books maybe, but he didnt translate and compile all of the Christian canon

@TheRobotAttack

Жыл бұрын

You’ll be waiting a long time for that verse though.

Martin Luther has entered the chat

@joshuajosephson9612

Жыл бұрын

And there's the answer @Haskel, once saved always saved. By the way @RhodieMan, 100 YEAR WAR ENTERS THE CHAT

@joshuajosephson9612

Жыл бұрын

@Haskel but didn't the primitive church did the same thing for the evangelions of the other apostles in one counsel? Doesn't the bible and the 10 commandments say that thou shall not praise any image of any sort, yet the Catholic church does it, while claiming that they don't?

@joshuajosephson9612

Жыл бұрын

Yes, maybe we said things that we shouldn't have said like comparing the Lord to feces. But people say heresy all the time here where I live, and they are practical catholic. Apostolic Catholics

@danceswithbears2521

Жыл бұрын

​@@joshuajosephson9612 How do Catholics do that?

@joshuajosephson9612

Жыл бұрын

@@danceswithbears2521 what do you mean? The part of Spaniards saying blasphemies like a day-to-day frase or what?

“Get-out-of-jail-free cards!” ☝️🤓

@Analyticalinadream

Ай бұрын

Yes, the Great Loophole :)

So you are explaining purgatory, which is never mentioned in the Bible. You also said it's biblical, so where is the verse?

@dominiquem1869

Жыл бұрын

2 Maccabees 12:41-46

@jamesboone3678

Жыл бұрын

@@dominiquem1869 that is not even a book in the bible.

@dominiquem1869

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesboone3678 It was until Protestants removed it from their bibles. Did you know that it used to be in the KJV?

@jamesboone3678

Жыл бұрын

@@dominiquem1869 playing the blame game. Jesus made it very clear there is a heaven and a hell. No in between.

@dominiquem1869

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesboone3678 I'm not blaming, I'm stating a fact that even Protestants once recognized 2 Maccabees as canonical

Jesus was and is enough. Put your faith in his finished work for you. You have nothing to bribe the Judge with.

@dominiquem1869

Жыл бұрын

In 1567 Pope Pius V canceled all grants of indulgences involving any fees or other financial transactions. Now, they’re typically granted by doing something along the lines of praying or reading the Bible for a specified time period

@alexdelosreyes6076

Жыл бұрын

Bribe my butt, we're merely paying the rightful price of our errors as much as any person who truly loves Christ and would want to be perfected. You wouldn't get it. It's complicated

@Cpnpd922

Жыл бұрын

@@alexdelosreyes6076 can you show me in scripture were it says you have anything worthy of paying with. But we all are as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness is as filthy rags... Isaiah 64:6

@alexdelosreyes6076

Жыл бұрын

@@Cpnpd922 why would I even try? You're a stubborn prot, you interpret the scriptures based on feelings. The scriptures stops serving you when it becomes logical. Why would I need to discuss?

@Cpnpd922

Жыл бұрын

@@alexdelosreyes6076 I interpret the scriptures based on the words in the scriptures. It is not hard. Don't add to or take away. Don't ignore the words by letting others interpret for you. Words have meaning so no interpretation needed.

Absolutely false. Nowhere in Gods word does it teach the practice of indulgences. The Council of Trent came up with this as an infallible teachings. The Old Testament scripture that they stake their claim on concerning indulgences come from the fact that under the Mosaic Law, a person could offer a sacrifice for their sin and they would be forgiven, however not every sin had a sacrifice. For example if by the testimony or 2 or 3 witnesses, if a man and a woman were caught committing adultery or someone was convicted of premeditated murder, they were to be executed- stoned to death there was no sacrifice or forgiveness of this sin. When Jesus Christ came to this earth, died for our sins and rose from the dead 3 days later then ascended into heaven, we were no longer under the law but under grace. That doesn’t mean we have freedom to sin but rather now an individual might find forgiveness of sin all sin if they repent and accept Christ as their savior. A murderer today, if they realize their lost state as a sinner and come to Jesus for forgiveness and salvation will indeed be forgiven of all of their sin including murder, that doesn’t mean if he is caught and convicted and sentenced to death that he won’t have to face the consequences for his actions and face mans justice for his crime. Or if a person sleeps with someone ( who they are not married to) and that person has a STD, but the person repents of it and is forgiven, they might still have to face the consequences of contracting the STD. So in short only God can choose whether or not a repentant sinner faces any temporal consequences and punishment for their sin. The church doesn’t have that authority.

@Muhbelly

Жыл бұрын

Facts👍🏼

I really want the biblical example you talked about, not to be patronizing, but out of genuine curiosity.

Thank you father mike. You are so clear in your teaching. This is soooooo true!

I’m a Protestant but this guy is SOOOO GOOOD

Grace comes only from God. Where in scripture does it say that the church has the authority to give us “access” to Gods grace?

@t_ogaming4881

Жыл бұрын

Matthew 16:18-19 "And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” There, right there Jesus gives the Authority to the Church to do these things. To literally bind and loose things not only on Earth but even im Heaven. The Church has the Authority because Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour willed it to be like that.

@Muhbelly

Жыл бұрын

@@t_ogaming4881 You didn’t exactly answer my question. In the passage you quoted, Jesus isn’t giving authority to the church to give access to Gods grace. Only God himself can offer grace.

@t_ogaming4881

Жыл бұрын

@@Muhbelly Then what did Jesus give to the Apostles. What does it mean to bind and loose something not only on Earth but also in Heaven? The Church has the literal authority of Jesus Christ, of God Himself, to do in His place what He did during His life on Earth and to decide in His place what to do, that's literally what it means to bind or to loose something. Jesus gives the Authority to forgive sins in John 20:21-23 to the Apostles something only God can apparently do, yet here they are given this ability (or better said Authority to do so). He gives them the Authority to do so many things which normally speaking only God can do like forgive sins. If Jesus gives them the Authority to do what only God can, does that not literally answer your question? That they do indeed have the Authority to do these things and so the logical conclusion is that they have the Authority to confer grace unto people, in His place as He Himself wished has willed "I WILL give you the authority...". To bind and loose things in Heaven and Earth. The Church is given the Authority to do things which normally only God can do, something the Early Church Fathers like Ignatius of Antioch, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus of Lyon, Origen, Cyprian of Carthage etc. all affirm. Seems pretty decisive to me. I'll belief in the words of the Lord and His chosen Apostles and their successors.

@Muhbelly

Жыл бұрын

@@t_ogaming4881 In this verse, Jesus is speaking directly to the apostle Peter and indirectly to the other apostles. Jesus’ words meant that Peter would have the right to enter the kingdom himself, that he would have general authority symbolized by the possession of the keys, and that preaching the gospel would be the means of opening the kingdom of heaven to all believers and shutting it against unbelievers. The book of Acts shows us this process at work. By his sermon on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:14-40), Peter opened the door of the kingdom for the first time. The expressions “bind” and “loose” were common to Jewish legal phraseology meaning to declare something forbidden or to declare it allowed. Peter and the other disciples were to continue Christ’s work on earth in preaching the gospel and declaring God’s will to men and they were armed with the same authority as He possessed. In Matthew 18:18, there is also a reference to the binding and loosing in the context of church discipline. The apostles do not usurp Christ’s lordship and authority over individual believers and their eternal destiny, but they do exercise the authority to discipline and, if necessary, excommunicate disobedient church members. When the apostles “bound” something, or forbade it on earth, they were carrying out the will of God in the matter. When they “loosed” something, or allowed it on earth, they were likewise fulfilling God’s eternal plan. In both Matthew 16:19 and 18:18, the syntax of the Greek text makes the meaning clear: “Whatever thou mayest bind upon the earth shall be having been bound in the heavens, and whatever thou mayest loose upon the earth shall be having been loosed in the heavens” (Matthew 16:19, Young’s Literal Translation). Or, as the Amplified Bible puts it, “Whatever you bind [forbid, declare to be improper and unlawful] on earth will have [already] been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose [permit, declare lawful] on earth will have [already] been loosed in heaven.” Jesus taught that the apostles had a special task on earth. Their words of authority, as recorded in the New Testament epistles, reflect God’s will for the church. When Paul declared an anathema on those who pervert the gospel, then we know that anathema was already declared in heaven (see Galatians 1:8-9). As far as grace is concerned, we can all extend grace to others; but when the word grace is used in connection with God, it takes on a more powerful meaning. Grace is God choosing to bless us rather than curse us as our sin deserves. It is His benevolence to the undeserving. Is this the kind of grace that you’re saying the church has the ability to confer upon people?

@josefg8017

Жыл бұрын

@@t_ogaming4881Thank you! To add, The same authority where our sacraments comes from. It is the Living God who does the work in the sacraments. He baptizes, confirms, annoints new priest, bind couples, forgives in confession, turn bread into Him and annoints the sick through Church. He doesn't sleep or rest in heaven. He lives and guides in His Church.

"Derp"...Errr' ummm where's the chapter and verse for this? In my KJV Bible? I'm saved by Grace Alone. Me & Jesus got it all worked out."

@Gabriel-hk4jz

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@anthonyfowler2623

Жыл бұрын

You are saved by faith alone…that’s actually not in the Bible….”You see a person is justified by works and not by faith alone” James 2:24

@Goncalo.

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonyfowler2623he was mocking protestants lol

@jamesstrader3296

Жыл бұрын

​@Anthony Fowler dude you didn't add the context to the verse, and even added things that aren't there. It's not referring to salvation, but merely that works should go with faith. Basically a person that follows Jesus should naturally endeavor to do good works. This is what is being taught in this chapter.

@christsavesreadromans1096

11 ай бұрын

Why don’t you open up your KJV Bible (which had several books removed from the original KJV 1611) to 1 Corinthians 3:15, where it plainly alludes to Purgatory. “If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” There you go, someone who is saved but only as by fire. This means fire cannot only be for the damned.

Alomst sounds like something a lawyer put together. Hes talking, but what are you really saying.

Where in the Bible are temporal and eternal sins, explained? OMG, this priest just diminished what Christ did on the cross and then added grace(s) to what Christ already paid for on the cross. This is WHY it is so important to actually READ the bible and not get an oral presentation from any priest. Christ paid for ALL of Mankind's sin on the cross past, present, and future. GOD is omnipotent, omnipresent and sovereign. HE knows what sins we will commit at any point in time because he is outside of time. GOD is in the past, present, and future timelines at the same time. This is how he can manipulate events to bring forth His kingdom and provide for us as well. When a Believer sins, all that is needed is for that person is to pray the Lord's prayer and ask for forgiveness routinely. Becoming a Christian is a life long process and it takes time to learn to be an imager of GOD. Adding things to GOD's Word is heretical. I'm glad my Great Grandparents left R.C.'s after getting into an argument with the Priest and went to the nearest local Protestant Church for better teaching on how to become a Christian and receive eternal life.

@bevious

Жыл бұрын

Oh man, the “where in the Catholic book given to the world by the Catholic Church 300 years after the Church was founded is this stuff?”

@RonA0607

Жыл бұрын

I agree, what the priest said is not Biblical. Post some scriptures brother. Its a weapon🤗 Hebrews 4:12 ESV For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. John 10:27-28 ESV Jesus said, My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. Hebrews 10:26 ESV For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

@bevious

Жыл бұрын

@@RonA0607 How do you know the Bible is the word of God- scripture? By whose authority can you know for certain that the collection of books is scripture?

@RonA0607

Жыл бұрын

@@bevious God Himself, this is the meaning of faith. Especially faith with experiences.

@bevious

Жыл бұрын

@@RonA0607 How was this revealed to you? Are you a prophet? Burning bush?

I don't need indulgences. I only need God's grace of Salvation through Christ Jesus. And it's a free gift

@marialepore4581

Жыл бұрын

No you don't and neither are Catholics obliged to gain them. It is recommended for those who wish to make repairs for the harm and hurt they have caused even if they have been forgiven. Example if you damaged someone's car you say that you are sorry but you are expected to pay to cover the cost of repairs. If you forfeit that payment then the victim can demand justice and sue you. God's justice is not one and the same as His forgiveness. We can be forgiven but justice must be rendered at some point.

@anthonyfowler2623

Жыл бұрын

You have to want it

What bible is he reading?

@Wgaither1

Жыл бұрын

He’s not

@robertajaycart3491

Жыл бұрын

Show me in Scripture where Christ gave us a book to read?

Titus3:5 He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. Philippians 3:9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith. Romans1:17 For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: “ The righteous will live by faith.” Romans 4:5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, Romans 4:6 And David speaks likewise of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him… Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus Romans 8:39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. John3:15-17 that everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.… John6:47 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. colossians1:20 and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through the blood of His cross. psalm103:10 He has not dealt with us according to our sins or repaid us according to our iniquities. psalm 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us. 2 corrin 5:19 For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation.

Babylon the great the mother of harlots

@danceswithbears2521

Жыл бұрын

Yes, pagan Rome who fornicated with Jerusalem to murder Jesus.

@hijodenoe321

Жыл бұрын

Really? How so?

@qrchris

Жыл бұрын

​@hijodenoe321 revelation 17 and 18

@hijodenoe321

Жыл бұрын

@@qrchris who is the harlot of rev 17 and 18?

@bevious

Жыл бұрын

Now now, don’t attack the Church with it’s own book. Use something else and try again.

"Our Lord hath no prolly with the thought of a jolly, but the actual execution doth require absolution."-Saint Taint Stain.

Monetizing human guilt, gotta love these centralized religions and how they funded their palaces

@dominiquem1869

Жыл бұрын

In 1567 Pope Pius V canceled all grants of indulgences involving any fees or other financial transactions. Now, they’re typically granted by doing something along the lines of praying or reading the Bible for a specified time period

@vega7865

Жыл бұрын

Of course, the Protestant reformation had a huge impact on Rome. It feels like with respect to cultural revolutions, Rome's pope can be expected to put the survival of their insitution above the religion's intellectual matter

@anthonypolonkay2681

Жыл бұрын

​@@dominiquem1869 but it was allowed before that eh. So much for the infallibility of the church, and papacy. Or is that just "doctrinal development" ? Quite peculiar that such doctrinal developments tend to coincide with large amounts of people getting fed up with a given teaching. I would think the holy spirit wouldn't change based on what sinful man happens to think at any given time.

“You can have this free, unmerited gift… but it comes at a cost.”

@catflower2018

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what Jesus said!

@xnabr7603

Жыл бұрын

@@catflower2018 oof will Jason recover from that?

@sjappiyah4071

Жыл бұрын

@@catflower2018 Don’t remember Jesus putting a financial cost on it but ok 😂

@anthonythatcherchurchilled285

Жыл бұрын

@@sjappiyah4071 Nor did the Church proper. Naturally there were some priests who did wrong and financially benefitted from the idea, but that was condemned as simony.

@sjappiyah4071

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonythatcherchurchilled285 not entirely, the church still upholds the practice of indulgence, rather after Luther embarrassed them they needed to accept the financial offerings in a non corrupt way that didn’t line their pockets. However regardless it’s still exchanging money for partial sanctification/justification. Which is still an abomination of the gospel and what Christ has done

I’m still hearing: give me money and I’ll give you salvation Edit 1) I watched the video again, let me rephrase: "Give me money and ill give you access to the [full?] grace of God" Edit 2) For further clarification, the original comment (line 1) and the first edit are practically the same if not entorely the same. Some people have commented that my edit was the right way to interpret it, but if so, it is the same thing that i originally said.

@bevious

Жыл бұрын

Get your hearing checked. It’s called confirmation bias.

@carterwoodrow4805

Жыл бұрын

​@@bevious is "temporal consequence for sin" from God like God punishes us here on earth?

@bevious

Жыл бұрын

@@carterwoodrow4805 all sin has consequences on you, your soul and others. Can’t walk away from them. Mercy for your sins cannot be separated from justice. The wrongs must be made right.

@carterwoodrow4805

Жыл бұрын

@@bevious that is true, and Jesus paid for all the wrongs of everyone who believes in him, no need for "indulgences".

@bevious

Жыл бұрын

@@carterwoodrow4805 oversimplification that glosses over uniting our sufferings with Christ, picking up our crosses and following him. 11 of his followers happily were martyred for Him and the faith. Look up redemptive suffering.

If im doing something to merit Grace, it's not Grace!

@basedzealot3680

Жыл бұрын

Yeah exactly, you aren’t doing those things to merit grace. Grace is a gift, gifts are either accepted or declined. Doing those things xyz is you saying yes and accepting those gifts

@Oatmealyum

Жыл бұрын

You arent doing anything, it just opens you up for the already gotten grace.

@xnabr7603

Жыл бұрын

@@Oatmealyum already gotten grace got it

@Oatmealyum

Жыл бұрын

@@xnabr7603 good job

I appreciate the explanation, but indulgences still boil down to "give us money, and God will be more gracious to you." I'm not convinced by this defense.

So jesus sacrifice is not enough for temporal consequences

True. What’s missing, and is probably necessary, is acknowledgment of historical abuses. Maybe the video should have set the record straight and not ignore the elephant in the room.

I don't need a church to stay in touch with God.

And this is why I am a Christian and not a catholic. Jesus paid it all! I do not need a man made system to have access to God’s grace.

@brabra3604

Жыл бұрын

Christ himself instituted the universal church through apostolic succession. It’s not man’s church it is God’s church in which he in-trusted fallible men to lead it. However throughout the millennia’s the church’s core teachings remained unchanged.

@michaelbarry1664

9 ай бұрын

The Catholic Church is in fact instituted by Jesus Christ and is therefore the only Christian church that is NOT man-made. Therefore, all other churches and religions are false and there remains One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic church.

@kirkdockter5093

9 ай бұрын

@@michaelbarry1664 please show me in scripture we’re Jesus instituted the catholic church.

@anonym0us_u5er

8 ай бұрын

@@kirkdockter5093MATTHEW 16:18 “Thou Art Peter…” If you wanna be a ‘christian’ on your own terms without Christ’s Universal (Catholic) church, good luck!!

@anonym0us_u5er

8 ай бұрын

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It’s restored in Jesus name amen ❤❤

What is the relationship between Indulgences and the building of St. Peter's Basilica? While it may not have been the only purpose of Indulgences, it is important to recognize that indulgences were abused by many within the Catholic Church, and this is the primary focus of the 95 Theses of Martin Luther.

Sounds like a prosperity gospel to me

@christsavesreadromans1096

6 ай бұрын

No, because it’s a sin to pay for indulgences.

It’s a good business model too.

@Giggidy11

Жыл бұрын

How so?

@jacobna2080

Жыл бұрын

@@Giggidy11 you there, sinner, you could pay up so you don’t go to purgatory

@Giggidy11

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobna2080 got ya. You’re referencing the misuse of those indulgences in the 15th century. Such a shame

@davidvernon3119

11 ай бұрын

@SanctusPaulus-ic5gl good point. Someone needs to bring this back. Maybe a website

The wages of sin is death

I hope Protestants can learn this lesson. They only seem to focus on the first consequence. Blessings upon all of us, especially Father Mike!

@MCmclovin22

Жыл бұрын

You literally just did what Jesus said not to do! Word for word. Congratulations buddy.

@MM22272

Жыл бұрын

@@MCmclovin22 Would you be so good to elaborate? Many thanks.

@mephisbuyeke1935

Жыл бұрын

Mathew 23:9 “And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.”

@earnyourgold

Жыл бұрын

@Russell Phelan no it isn’t. Pointing out people outright ignoring and going against the words of the very person the religion is based on is a pretty valid thing to do. These guys don’t even care. Just want to be put above others so badly that they’ll go against Scripture

@pija9505

11 ай бұрын

" call no man father " book this whole vid alledgidly based on .

So it's to buy the mercy and grace of God?????? It is simple, run to God, repent and REST knowing his sacrifice is enough for forgiveness. Why pay if we now know the Veil was torn and we now have access to God WITHOUT this. Why not just pray and offer help when needed to the person as brother/sister in Christ? Tell me how this is biblical, please take me to scripture.

@jaxfernandez3684

3 ай бұрын

No, if you watched the video instead of the short, you would learn that the act of indulgence is for strengthening one’s character and development after sin is forgiven, but has no effect on whether or not you go to heaven… the church doesn’t offer passage to heaven for money, they offer post sin therapy for spiritual strengthening similar to how you have to do exercises after surgery. Unnecessary, but they help and are beneficial to do. The church has never taught that you pay your way to heaven…

@ico9879

3 ай бұрын

I don't seem to find the complete video. Based on your comment, is the indulgences for loved ones that have passed away? If so, then what is the purpose if they have already passed away and Jesus already paid the penalty giving eternal life for those who he has adopted as his own children.

@jaxfernandez3684

3 ай бұрын

@@ico9879 no… in no part of my comment did I mention jack about people who have passed away or “paying” for their sins. The exercises or “indulgences” are for personal benefit only to be done in your free time to strengthen yourself and your moral fiber/character. Indulgence isn’t just giving alms, but it is also other acts like praying and fasting. It doesn’t matter where the money goes, whether it be to a Catholic Church or a Protestant church or a local charity, a poor person alms is alms. Prayer is important as well so as to remain in contact with our Father. Fasting reminds us to be humble and to not be attached to worldly things for the only real thing in this world is God himself. “Indulgence” is, in other words “indulging” in the acts of Christ. I indulge in the suffering he did in the desert by fasting, I give the last of my funds for the sake of a good cause (like the lady who gave her last Pennies to Christ), I indulge in my relationship with God and Christ by praying to Him. The root word is INDULGE. In other words, indulging is engaging in acts that strengthens oneself by aligning oneself with acts that Christ himself might have done, and this strength allows you to fight on and resist and run away from temptation and sin. It is the personal growth that saves one from eternal damnation by making the habit of choosing God (because in the end our acts we have done in life are the proof of whether or not we have chosen Christ) over the distractions that satan puts in our face, not the act itself. That is why simply believing in Christ isn’t enough, but to allow Christ to work through you and allowing yourself to be an agent of Christ. That is what an indulgence is. Now some idiot priests in the past may have explained it wrong, for example: “if you give Alms to the church, you are engaging in an act of indulgence, and are on the path to being saved,” can be interpreted as “pay money get to heaven.” What he actually meant to say was “the personal growth you gain by letting go of an earthly thing like money will make you stronger in the long run and enable you to choose Christ over evil things or the distractions of this world. It’s better to let go of it now when you can send if off to benefit OTHERS (not necessarily the church but perhaps other people in need) instead of holding it to oneself and becoming enslaved by excess and greed.” Indulgence is and has always been about PERSONAL GROWTH in the Catholic Church, not payment for heaven/salvation. Remember: an indulgence can be an act of prayer, or giving something up (a vice perhaps), or giving alms. The Catholic church never limited people’s ability to do any of these things or said “you can only achieve salvation through paying money” it has always been “your journey with Christ is unique, but if you work on specific attributes of yourself and make good habits, it makes the journey much easier. It doesn’t guarantee heaven, but it will make you stronger.” It is only through choosing Christ that one can be saved, but acts of indulgence strengthen one’s character by formulating habits that allow us to push away evil and accept Christ over the distractions of this world. Defending the faith is also a form of indulgence. Anything you do for God is an indulgence. It isn’t about money, it’s about habit forming. That’s what indulgence is. You can just as easily replace indulgence with “engaging in acts of Christ” as you are “indulging” in the good things he has done and opening yourself up to his influence by forcing yourself to act as he would in whatever situation you find yourself in… which can be very hard for many people. The more you indulge/exercise in doing God’s work, the easier it becomes (relatively speaking, persecution will always be there to deal with). The less you do it, the more you succumb to moral cowardice or just “live and let live” mentality or stagnation in one’s faith. It is similar to the story of the one who built his house on the foundation of stone vs sand. There are those who have tested themselves and who have fought the good fight to build a good foundation for themselves so they can become efficacious warriors for Christ, and then there are those who’s faith is built on sand: the Christians in name only, the ones who don’t follow his teachings but are mere “fans” of Jesus. You know who I’m talking about. Indulgence is an exercise in personal moral fortitude to prevent oneself from becoming weak in their faith. If you never face the fire, you will never temper your steel. If you never fight evil, you will become weak to it. Think of any act that Jesus would do… I know I know it’s corny “what would Jesus do…” but for real, in Catholic teaching, if anytime you find yourself asking this question before acting, your next act you are about to do in whatever situation you’re in is more likely than not to be a form of indulgence. That is the true definition cut and dry in Catholicism of what an Indulgence is. Not payment, growth and strengthening of character through repentance and acting as Christ would in whatever situation you find yourself in. And following Christ’s example… is the very essence of Christian belief. Therefore, indulgence (in its proper, un-perverted definition) is an essential part of Christian life (you more likely than not have already engaged in an act of indulgence. If you keep the commandments you are doing indulgence and that’s the bare minimum 😂.”

the problem with trying to convince protestants, especially in America, that indulgence is good is because we are so used to the prosperity gospel being insanely popular so every time we hear how the church institution requires a set amount of giving we assume it's another greedy prosperity gospel pastor

The Catholic Church does not have the authority or ability to “give you access” to God’s grace.

@SamScott99

10 ай бұрын

Christ gave the Holy Spirit to the church, and she has authority

Martin Luther was a Catholic Priest. Read his 95 thesis to learn what he protested against.

Not for arguments sake but for a cure to my curiosity, may I ask then where in scripture we find this temporal consequence? Yes it is logical, but in Job this is brought up by a friend of Jobs. And God condones this man for saying that what is happening to him is because of something Job did. Obviously we are not all in this situation, but it is fair to say that we differ because of sin whether it’s ours or not, and the lessening isn’t dependent on what we do but dependent on the Sovereignty of God? As when people said the blind man was blind because of his or his parents sin, and Jesus says it is not because of his sin or his parents specifically? I ask for sake of curiosity rather than argument. I’m happy to hear y’all’s thoughts on this subject!

That makes no sense, Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice. Giving indulgences does nothing. Faith in Christ is the only way, not works.

@vsetenjoyer

Жыл бұрын

James 2:17

@danceswithbears2521

Жыл бұрын

Matthew 25: 31-46. Do you have faith in God if you refuse to do what He commands you to do?

@RonA0607

Жыл бұрын

Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

@alshang-yu9961

Жыл бұрын

@@RonA0607 exactly explains why, they want to boast that they added their "good works" to the grace of God which is actually just filthy rags in God's eyes.

@RonA0607

Жыл бұрын

@@alshang-yu9961 yes, we should not be boasting about any single thing because everything comes from God, even our good works. All we can boast about is our weaknesses, like Paul. 2 Corinthians 12:10 ESV For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

Brother, when we practice indulgences, we affirm that we cleanse ourselves with our own works. Thats not biblical and 2, Jesus already made us close to Him by His blood.

Amazing how the Pope decides how much of God's grace and forgiveness get's through to God's people. I'm not Catholic but I've received all the stuff the Pope is supposedly blocking from non-Catholics getting. Is that evidence against Catholism? Or at least the infallability of the Pope? It seems to be.

I love how he's trying to soften the blow of the church robbing you

@danceswithbears2521

Жыл бұрын

How is the Church robbing me?

@CP-qn1mn

Жыл бұрын

​@@danceswithbears2521Here is the scenario played out thousands if not millions of times over the centuries. Priest- we are sorry your grandmother died, for a donation we would be happy to pray to shorten her punishment and suffering in pergatory.

@Sicilianus

Жыл бұрын

@@CP-qn1mn stipends aren’t necessary for requesting intercessory prayers

@danceswithbears2521

Жыл бұрын

@C P Except that isn't Church teaching and it wouldn't work.

Yes, there are wounds from sin. However, that healing does not occur from completing a the plenary indulgence checklist. We’re healed by our loving God who walks with us and offers us healing if we allow it.

Sola Scriptura, sola fide, sola gratia, solus Christus, soli Deo gloria!

@HodgePodgeVids1

Жыл бұрын

Scriptura and faith alone aren’t in the Bible

@joecastillo8798

Жыл бұрын

caroladams8666 Carol, Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide are Luther's invention. Grace and Christ's sacrifice is what saves humanity. Got it? I hope so.

@danceswithbears2521

Жыл бұрын

Where does the Bible state we are to follow only the Bible? Nowhere. Sola Scriptura is a man-made tradition.

@kevinkane9446

Жыл бұрын

​@@danceswithbears2521 So men come along and tell you it's okay to make statues of Mary, bow down to her and pray to her and you just accept it? God's Word is the authority not men's

@KevinSmile

Жыл бұрын

​@HodgePodgeVids1 You've just undone centuries of protestant theology with your deep and carefully thought-out argument. You are a great scholar, my friend.

Pray That I Will Have The Intention Motivation To Keep The Ten Commandments Read The Bible That The Lord Will Bless My Home Life Health

What eternal consequence did Jesus endure??? He just had a bad weekend.

Your pride in your church is on display. You try to take Gods authority for yourself, it doesn't work, the case you make for your doctrine doesn't go along with what the bible says, in fact it makes no sense. You should stop making these videos, trying to trick people in to believing your false teachings.

No it's not it's all a lie

@alexdelosreyes6076

Жыл бұрын

Why? Because you believe differently. Get out of here

@alshang-yu9961

Жыл бұрын

Indulgences then Purgatory both are not in the written Word of God and that's why they include the other extra biblical books to support their claims. God sent Jesus to be a perfect sacrifice for your sins. Scripture says, “But our High Priest (Jesus) offered himself to God as a single sacrifice for sins, good for all time. Then he sat down in the place of honor at God's right hand.” Hebrews 10:12 For By Grace Are Ye Saved Through Faith; And That Not Of Yourselves: It Is The Gift Of God: Not Of Works, Lest Any Man Should Boast - Ephesians 2:8-9

@alexdelosreyes6076

Жыл бұрын

@@alshang-yu9961 ah prots really say the darnest things. Don't celebrate the Christmas or lent ya ding dong. The Catholics made that up too. Also don't use Trinity. The Catholics made it up too. I also urge you to gather ancient manuscripts and translate them yourselves, the bible you're reading was compiled by the Catholics and was later revised by an angry German monk. It's funny why you prots are "bible know it alls" but can't study proper history.

I'm a muslim and christianity doesn't make any sense to me when it comes to jesus like why would a "god" take all humans sins instead of gods mercy, and you can pay the government (church) for your other sins (Indulgence), also when looking at the old Bible, it doesn't read as the new Bible, how can the words of god get changed ?

@robertajaycart3491

Жыл бұрын

Because Christ didn't give us book to read, he created the Catholic church and passed his authority to his church and it was Catholicism that compiled the Bible in 382.

@Majthoub

Жыл бұрын

@@robertajaycart3491 so what exactly or where are the words of god when it comes to Christianity ? Is it the bible or what do you call them ?

@robertajaycart3491

Жыл бұрын

@مجذوب - Majthoub I read the Bible and according to that Bible, Christ didn't leave a book, but left us a church and passed his authority to his church. Before the Reformation, Christians were either Catholic or Orthodox and it was a Catholic Pope who decided the canon of scripture in 382. The Catholic church is the church Christ started. I prayed about it and did the research for 10 years.

Not just cashing in then!?

@xnabr7603

Жыл бұрын

Idk i’ve been going to Mass for years and haven’t seen a single invoice…

@pija9505

11 ай бұрын

@SanctusPaulus-ic5gl eh ! Cash ?

Can none accept to pay on the behalf of the others

What other way is there to access the grace of Christ aside faith? Nothing else. Only by faith. The just shall live by faith.

He said "the church says this" not the Bible, smh

@robertajaycart3491

Жыл бұрын

Who did the first Christisns follow when their was no Bible for the first 400 years?

@michaelbarry1664

9 ай бұрын

Who first compiled the books of the Bible? The Catholic Church did.

@cantesito6043

6 ай бұрын

The first Christians didn't even had a bible

There are certainly temporal effects to sin but we are never promised the church can alleviate those. If I get HIV due to sin I can still be saved completely from the penalty of sin through faith but will experience its consequences (although in grace we are sometimes spared, although this not grace metered out by the church). This is “commonsensical” Also, very convenient they cost money

Amen ❤

In other words, it's business.

Do Catholics ignore their evil history ???

Outrageous! Indulgence was money and power motivated (To buy then a "note" to feel less guilty that is, lol). The only way we can absolve our temporary consequences for our sins is to examine carefully how Jesus Christ had done so or taught us so. Christian should know that it is given that we would go through hardships or pains because of Persecutions and From Sins. And God equipped us with intellectual intelligence, emotional intelligence which has awareness, memory, conscience, and as well as abilities and talents along with personal experiences and other people's experience and infos that are on this world and material resources. Would you think God wants us to personalize our relationship to him utilizing these. And you cannot just pay money to relieve ourselves from the consequences of our sins, this is not the gospel or doctrine or teaching of our Jesus Christ. It a man-made. It is so sad to say but it is another useless ritual of the Roman Catholics. God bless!

Pay the priest is indulgences right ? To help loved ones in hell or purgatory or both ? No thanks .

Works based is unbiblical. JESUS'S sacrifice is sufficient for ALL sin. Catholic church cannot give us access to grace. We all have access through Jesus.

Romans 6:23): "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." There consequence of sin is death.

Few ppl care about indulgences, and too complicated to explain. When apologetics goes too far

The Bible constantly talks about how no one is saved by their works and it is only by Jesus we can be saved no matter how good we think we are.

@ryanm2084

9 ай бұрын

​@SanctusPaulus-ic5glhow much money have you paid for your indulgances? I hope it saves you!

All the Protestants in the comments didn't even watch the video. Either that or they refused to listen to the important bits.

You didnt pay to obtain the grace from God, why people had to pay to obtain more grace?????????

A very deep indoctrinated catholic.

Christ life death and resurrection is sufficient to cover our sins for all time, indulgences and Mary will never be good enough to justify or satisfy Gods demand.

Big slippery slope there buddy. Dangerous line of thinking being promoted by this

@robertajaycart3491

Жыл бұрын

Not when you realize Christ did give us a book to read but a church and he passed his authority to his church.

That’s not what indulgences are. Why not tell the truth?

Teachings about indulgences are not found in the scriptures.

@xnabr7603

Жыл бұрын

Scriptures that were agreed upon to form the 73 books by who? The Catholic church?

@robertajaycart3491

Жыл бұрын

Show me where Christ left us book?

Awwwww come on You folks are masters of the convoluted

So you make a transaction out of God... This is incorrect. Please Catholics you must know the truth!!!

Isn't it IRONIC , That a Catholic Priest is lecturing us on SIN❓. The Road to Damnation is Wide ,

Where in the Bible does it talk about these two types? Wait, it doesn't because it's a doctrine that was introduced by sinful man.

@chrisstottlemeyer7545

Жыл бұрын

It's the doctrine of purgatory. A doctrine not found in the Bible. A man made doctrine.

@robertajaycart3491

Жыл бұрын

​@@chrisstottlemeyer7545 The doctrine of purgatory is found in scripture?

@robertajaycart3491

Жыл бұрын

Where in the Bible does it say that everything has to come from the Bible?

Didn't Paul rebuke the idea of winning so that we can get more of God's Grace?

How is this biblical???

@Death2Compromise

9 ай бұрын

It's not.☦️

The sacrifice of being made to be sin is when he wields the fiery sword guarding the way to the Tree of Life on the day of vengeance AS judgment. Jesus is with you always, until the end of the ages, when the sacrifice is made. Satan, Lucifer, David, the Morning Star is the cornerstone of his work of salvation. He has been here since Christ began his work as the first Adam. The way of the Lord in the desert needs to be put into context with the previous passage: Sacrifice: -Indeed, she has received from the hand of the LORD double for all her sins. (Isa 40:2 NABO) Resurrection: -Make straight in the wasteland a highway for our God! (Isa 40:3 NABO) Just as it is appointed that human beings die - be judged - appear a second time, (so also Christ) Heb 9:27-28.

How much you want?

The Catholic Church is not the arbitrator between God and man. Yeshua came and died so that He could be the arbitrator, the reconciliation between man and God. We are saved from Him, by Him, for Him.

Yet there are no Bible verses to support this argument

@robertajaycart3491

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Where does it say everything has to come from the Bible? Maybe look up John 21:25.

@TheLexGamerYoutube

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@@robertajaycart3491 Things that the Catholic church teaches are major doctrines, and major doctrines will be found in Scripture. Otherwise, Christ has left us blind and to fend for ourselves. The Bible talks about many minor things regarding doctrine. It should tell us about something like this too

@robertajaycart3491

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@TheLexGamer The interesting thing, Christ never told anyone to write any of this down. Then before the written Scriptures their was the Oral Tradition. And if you read scripture, Christ didn't leave a book, Christ passed his authority to his church. The Canon of Scripture was decided in 382 by a Pope. Many of the Apostles followed the Didache The original Bible was the Vulgate Bible. The doctrines and many of the dogmas are found in Scripture. But their is also Oral Tradition, Scripture & Tradition go hand in hand. Oral Tradition are not found in scripture like what did the early church believe and taught. Like baby baptism, the early church taught this even though is not explicit in the Bible. Then who's Bible, the Catholic Bible which has more books than the Protestant Bible, the King James Version was designed by King Henry VIi. Because he didn't like the Catholic Bible. It was Luther who took books out of the Bible.. Being their is no table of contents in the Bible, who decided which books were infallible and how do Protestants know which ones are?

Wow! What heresy.

HA! That’s funny because you know what type of Christianity provides unlimited access to gods mercy with out having to find a box? PROTESTANTS! It f***ing crazy ain’t it?

No need for this Jesus death on the cross removed the penalty of sin and death

Does the church of rome still have shares in the porn industry?? My granny would be pissed off if she knew where her weekly donations where going.

@user-si7iu7sz8o

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There is no evidence to suggest that the Roman Catholic Church has any direct involvement with the porn industry. In fact, the Catholic Church has been known to speak out against pornography and its harmful effects on individuals and society. However, there have been instances of individuals within the Catholic Church being involved in illegal or immoral activities, including some cases of sexual abuse. These incidents are not representative of the church as a whole, and the vast majority of Catholics and clergy members condemn such actions. It's important to note that the porn industry is a complex and multifaceted industry that involves many different individuals and organizations. While there may be some individuals who identify as Catholic who work in the industry, it is not accurate to say that the Catholic Church as an institution is involved in or supports the porn industry.

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What in actual hell are talking about? Your granny would probably also be pissed your wasting time leaving incoherent replies on KZread Shorts 🤣🤣

Lol right who gave you this power??? 🤣 don't need you at all. 1 Timothy 2:5 NKJV For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,James 4:7 KJVS Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.Colossians 2:18 KJVS Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,Colossians 2:18 KJVS Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,