To be fair to these folks (not something I'll say often), "Attention Dialled into a Higher Dimension" is a pretty good description for what my ADHD feels like... I'm not unfocused, I'm just focused _extremely hard_ on something completely unrelated to the conversation, like "the genetics of cat fur colour" or "the history of the violin"

@robin8404

Жыл бұрын

@@double-star lemme put it this way: if it feels normal for you, you might have ADHD lmao

@Radhaun

Жыл бұрын

In all fairness, the genetics of cat fur color is really interesting (pigmentation genetics is really interesting in general)

@widgie161

Жыл бұрын

@Robin lol the genetics of cat fur color is a thing my buddy with ADHD also knows a LOT about

@vickimaroney800

Жыл бұрын

My daughter is a cat fur colour genetics person too!

@Albinojackrussel

Жыл бұрын

Personally my fav variant of ADHD was AC/DC - Attention Control Deficit Conundrum

My brother was labeled as being a special needs student, held back, and not allowed to do anything for himself while I was labeled a gifted child and did all the “spooky little psychic” things that made people think there was LITERALLY something supernatural about me…. Turns out we BOTH have Aspergers, and are basically exactly as smart and as skilled as each other. I was just SLIGHTLY better at masking to socialize…. And under UNBELIEVABLE pressure not to fuck it up by being “weird”….

Never heard about indigo children, but when i was a child i was convinced that i was an alien and would be happier living in another planet

@Ember_Green

3 жыл бұрын

Hard same!

@sysye

3 жыл бұрын

Same!

@moondragon3753

Жыл бұрын

I have actually created my own galaxy and even traveled to one of the planets.... I thought I was going crazy. Everyone around me was telling me I had schizophrenia because I started seeing and hearing things more vividly and feeling like they were in this plain of existence. I became paranoid thinking the men in black were after me .... And I know it sounds silly but there's a whole explanation but that means telling the whole tramatic story as to how all this happened. But I have always heard voices and seen things. I never really tell anyone because I'm afraid to get locked up....

@bethanythatsme

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@hackidreemurr

5 ай бұрын

Bruh when I was a child, I thought that I was H*tler in my previous life and now must pay for my atrocities by experiencing discrimination as a marginalized person. I luckily withdrew that thought for a while, until I made MBTI my temporary special interest. I'm an INFJ and guess who's also INFJ: H*tler. That what got me thinking more about this theory again, but I now don't care who I have been in my previous life, or whether or not it's true. I have humanitarian values and I'm doing much to make the world a better place, or at least to create a safer space for marginalized people like me.

Thank you for this! I have C-PTSD from my childhood and a big part of that was constantly being told that my sensory processing disorder was indicative of *higher abilities*. The adults around me constantly put me through torture so that I could demonstrate how ✨special✨ I was.

@Ember_Green

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this - I'm so happy you found something in it 😊

@khazermashkes2316

2 жыл бұрын

I am so sorry they did that to you! That is abuse under the guise of lifting you up.

@marnenotmarnie259

Жыл бұрын

that's horrible. hope you're doing okay

My mom calls me a crystal child and calls herself an indigo child. Meanwhile I've been investigating a possible history of undiagnosed autism within my family, and hope to get an official diagnostic process underway for myself. I don't know what will come of it, or if I really am autistic, but I'm glad I know this indigo child stuff is just ableism filtered through new age lingo. Edit/Update: Yep. I got the 'tism. I believe in magic, btw, but it's always good to be critical of the biases and misinformation being spread by people.

Neurodivergence, latent dysphoria, alienation from moving around a lot, and being alternately told you're "highly gifted" and "very special" or written off as difficult and possibly crazy are one heck of a cocktail for a small child to swallow. I was for some time convinced I was an alien, at others that I had a phantom snout and tail like a wolf. And those are just the endearing quirks rather than the embarrassing, gross stuff. My parents at least were understanding about my weirdness, but I think my mom in particular unwittingly pressured me to be, as you say, some world-saving genius, even if she settled ultimately on just supporting my interests and telling me to go to college. Still, it wasn't great! Oh, also, not realising that many other people can't visualise things to photographic detail while awake and thinking that stuff like benign closed-eye hallucinations and visual snow are basically normal or, in the latter case, plain old eye problems was… not obviously problematic in communicating with others, but explains some subtle discrepancies in how I've always seen things and how other people do, methinks.

@Ember_Green

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment! I'm happy that so many people are relating to this!

@ConvincingPeople

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ember_Green It's eye-opening and comforting to know that others have gone through these things and understand and that there is an explanation to be had. I ultimately found friendship with people who got it and me even when their own experiences and ways of thinking are in some respects very different from my own, which is a lot luckier than some, and I am grateful for it every day.

@fralanasko2900

Жыл бұрын

.... the fantom wolf tail and ears and wings.....

When I was getting diagnosed I said to my mental health nurse that it felt like everyone was on a network that I wasn't apart of

@Markkain777

2 жыл бұрын

This, ive always felt like somehow everyone had an unspoken language between eachother of subtext I couldn't understand, exept for when I was talking with other neurodivergent people who actually for once felt like we were on the same wave length, people act like autistic people struggle with communication but I believe we just communicate differently, ive never really wondered why a neurodivergent person was stressed or upset because to me I saw/experienced the things that led to them displaying distress and the people who caused the least amount of social stress to me also turned out to be neurodivergent (or at least I'm fairly certain they are now that I know more about ADHD and ASD) Little things like knowing when it's time to have quiet time or understanding when someone needs to go have a break from the noise/group/ event and not taking it personally.

@heedmydemands

Жыл бұрын

That is such a succinct way of putting it, I like it.

@mammoneymelon

Жыл бұрын

@@Markkain777 neurodivergent people absolutely communicate differently, not worse. i think because we often share the experience of being misunderstood, we tend to be able to communicate more clearly with each other and are much more willing to take each other's words at face value instead of constantly talking in code. ex: if i have a neurotypical friend who says they don't want to talk to anyone, i probably have to figure out if they mean it or if it's some weird test they're doing. but if i have a neurodivergent friend who says they don't want to talk to anyone, i can just say "alright, lmk if that changes" because they're probably just overwhelmed or hyperfocused on something else. the best way i can explain it is as if neurotypical (mainly allistic) people have a big manual or script to life that the rest of us never received, so when they talk in code they automatically understand each other but we have to try to figure it all out through trial and error. life is a cold read and no one gave me the script lmao

Fun Fact: The therapist I saw before my current one kept "joking" that I "must be an alien or something". This same therapist also considered themselves an advocate for Autistic people, knew that I'm Autistic _and_ have unreality issues, and also thought that vaccines gave their younger sibling Autism even though that is 100% not how it works and what she described was probably brain damage compounding on preexisting stuff. She also decided to silent treatment me when I wouldn't say "yes" to things she insisted were true about me as a person in our last session! Big yikes! When Allistic and NT people act like _this,_ no wonder the idea of being a changeling child or an alien seems so plausible. I'd 100% rather have a fae realm or another planet to return to to not have to worry about dealing with people like that than be a human. Then I'd at least know for sure that there are others who would be able to understand me when I speak.

@lolly9804

Жыл бұрын

I had an apparently rainbow friendly therapist insist on me pursuing relationships/marriage with opposite sex partners. I assume she thought rainbow meant 'let me lowkey try conversion therapy on sad gays'.

@cronchyskull

Жыл бұрын

Didn't they recon that the changeling myth actually came from neuroatypical children?

"The power of positive thinking" really did a number on my developing neurodivergent mind. I felt deeply ashamed that I hadn't been able to envision my way out of the challenges I faced in the NT world. I wanted so badly to no longer be a problem and to just fit in. I did so much research into trying to "fix" me before being diagnosed in my 40s. Thank you for your channel and thank you to all who share in the comments.

@Bexstarartist

Жыл бұрын

Toxic positivity is an issue

This…so much this. My mom thought (probably still thinks) I’m psychic and was a beacon for spirits as a kid. I did seem to “know” things I shouldn’t have and freaked out adults around me but I know now it’s due to my autism NOT some supernatural force. I was terrified spirits were coming into my room, trying to communicate with me. It was a nightmare. It felt like I was cursed. Still do…but for different reasons.

@Ember_Green

2 жыл бұрын

Omg I completely relate to being afraid at night, worried the spirits would come for a chat. My mum said I could tell them to leave & they would, but like, I'd rather not be haunted in the first place, thanks very much! 😅 Happy you liked the video!

I was thankfully never labeled as a “new kid”, but I was labeled as gifted and consequently never received help at school for my ADHD. I was told to just focus more, including when difficulties with school contributed to suicidal ideation. I am glad that I went to community college instead of a more prestigious school because it helped me adapt to learning at a better pace for me.

This is just me before my autism diagnosis. :)) I was always eccentric looking person with lots of special interests and hyperfixations. One day, a middle class new agey type women from the social circle around me at that time approached me and told me I am an indigo child (but I was in my late teens) explained to me what indigo child is, told me people like me on a special mission, meant for some higher purpose, that made too much sense to me at that time because I was always different and admired/hated because of my classical autistic traits. Then I was ran into all the new age knowledge and devoured all the information I could reach from the calculations/interpretations of the personal astrological natal charts to the holistic healing to the occult knowledges etc. (following the whole rabbit hole). Then after some time people started to gather around me for some reason and asking my advise/guidance on some of their personal lives, treating me some sort of special being. That was my cue for questioning what is going on around me and in my life. I isolated myself from almost everyone and distanced myself from these people. I even did not need to read too much of debunking arguments about all the new age stuff, because it was pretty obvious, but my personal conclusion was all those middle-class people, living in the cities, yearning for the nature, alienated from their work, from their fellow human beings, from their communities, were wishing/hoping something special/higher, just for trying to making some sense for all the nonsense, injustice and violence in our world. Like all your work so far, this one too was a great work, but this video especially special to me because it made me discover a kindred spirit. Thank you just for existing, dear Mica.

@Ember_Green

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you so much for that comment! I can't believe so many people are relating so strongly with something I thought would be pretty niche. Well done for staying strong in the face of becoming a potential guru! 💜

@eshiboo

3 жыл бұрын

This is so close to my experience as well, and exactly like you did I isolated myself from everyone and have been afraid of "new age" ever since.

Wow this video took a turn. I've had a few close friends have spiritual experiences, and I obv trust their accounts of what they're experiencing, so I've been attempting to account for that in my understanding of "wtf is out there?" This also comes with a lot of, "I'm envious because I want special powers, too. Why do my friends get them and I don't? Am I not ND enough?" But hearing your explanations of why you experienced those things validates a thing that has been in the back of my mind this whole time: sometimes we just pick up on shit and guess correctly. I don't have to incorporate this into my worldview! This makes my life a lot easier.

@Ember_Green

2 жыл бұрын

i'm so happy my video could help!

I'm glad my parents were very down to earth because I might have ended up with a lot of these labels hoisted on me otherwise. I was also too "behaviorally challenged" for most adults to consider me gifted, having a hot temper and being often unwilling to take instructions made my teachers and parents angry, not excited to have an "indigo child".

My names Indigo, I’m 15 I’m an undiagnosed autistic girl well currently going through the diagnostic process. I fit all of the supposed qualities of an indigo child and I grew up in quite a spiritual family both me and my mum practice witchcraft, growing up people would always ask my mum if she named me because of this (she didn’t know anything about it) or give her books about it. I don’t think any of these things I’ve experienced have helped me at all a few years ago I thought I was an indigo child from people telling me about it online at this point I’d just like people to shut up and get proper health support that I’ve lacked my whole life.

@heedmydemands

Жыл бұрын

I hope you're doing ok

I’ve never heard of Indigo Children but in high school I probably would have believed that I was one. Good video.

@Ember_Green

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@heedmydemands

Жыл бұрын

I hadn't heard of them till I learned about autism, I first heard of them on a video by yosamdysam

“I only came across this concept a couple of years ago.” *me sitting here having been raised on this bullshit* “...Lucky Bastard!” I genuinely enjoyed this video, very well done.

The phone thing happened to me too! Happened most often with landlines or early cellphones. I hear a very similar sound when I’m close to incandescent lights that are dimmed (not at full brightness).

I've been told I'm a crystal, starseed and elf. I'm just autistic. Lol

@Ember_Green

3 жыл бұрын

Omg Elf, that's a new one on me. 😅🧝‍♀️

So much this! It is frustrating because I'm glad their kids will be treated better but it's still a complete mess for so many reasons you've highlighted.

YES I've thought about this before, so glad to see a deep dive. It's messed up how this idea is filled with issues but it's still more affirming than the mainstream ABA ideas. Re: autistics will save us, I read The Walking Dead comic lately and in letters at the end of each issue the writer confirmed that one character was autistic and the "most important" for rebuilding civilization or something like that. and its like uhhh yeah okay no pressure lol You mention the witch past self- I had an ancestor outside of Salem who died in a Cambridge prison after being accused of witchcraft, and I wonder (given my family history) if she was just ND. Could be an interesting thing to investigate.......

@Ember_Green

3 жыл бұрын

Omg if I knew that about my ancestry I'd be spending all my time & money on archive access 😅 Happy that this one is going down well, I was nervous as I completely understand the draw & didn't want to upset anyone!

@Emileigggggh

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ember_Green Oh yeah, I think you nailed it-- I wasn't called an indigo child but I was one of those "gifted" 90s kids and I feel like the expectations gave me a standard I couldn't live up to, especially considering all my other disabilities. And I think it made me want to mask more in a lot of ways, because I was terrified of having to swap that gifted label for "special," (which was reduced to the r word in some peer groups) knowing how those kids were treated and seeing a false dichotomy between that and "gifted."

you're one of my favorite youtubers. brilliant! I would say the potential for these children to be crippled by the inevitable disappointment their potential narcissism could cause under those types of circumstances could be devastating. it is definitely something that could destroy their relationship to their passions.

@Ember_Green

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, I always appreciate your comments. It's always somehow more sad to me when kind intentions have bad consequences & I truly feel bad for some of those kids. 😕

@arasharfa

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ember_Green I agree wholeheartedly, I think you made an incredible job at describing the root issues in the most compassionate and concrete way. I was amazed at the level of detail you managed to act like the people you describe, so when you revealed the other way of describing the same thing at the end, you could not have built a more solid argument. masterful.

@arasharfa

3 жыл бұрын

i'd like to clarify that my use of the word narcissism is in no way used like it normally is online. I do not accuse people suffering from narcissism to be bad people. It is one of the worst personality disorders a person can suffer from, as it is rooted in a profoundly fragile self image, and while most people would disagree, i do believe they deserve our compassion and understanding. i was myself diagnosed with narcissistic tendencies and just admitting it is most of the battle, and it has led me into a much happier path. I just thought I'd clarify this so people don't automatically assume I mean parents of indigo children are the source of all evil or something. narcissism does not equal bad. ok, im done :)

man when i was a kid i always knew i was "different" and a lot of the time the people around me characterized me as an alien and/or robot i still love the concept of aliens and very heavily identify with them, but i also know for a fact that the reason i do is because i had to embrace the idea that i wasn't "normal" in order to survive

@heedmydemands

Жыл бұрын

I identify a lot more with being a robot than an alien. Like I was not creative and robotic in the way I act. I would regurgitate information word for word

@mammoneymelon

Жыл бұрын

@@heedmydemands i can relate to that as well. it got the nickname "walking dictionary" because i would explain concepts the same way a dictionary or textbook would. i'm also apparently hard to read if i don't over express myself. i feel like a lot of autistic people related to nonhuman concepts as kids (and sometimes adults) because our natural traits get characterized as unnatural/abnormal

I feel like this really ties in with the stuff I've been learning about youth liberation. We underestimate children's capacities for understanding so much. There are so many mismatches between our stereotypes of children and the way young humans actually be. Like- adults have had so much conditioning by the time they have kids that they trip TF out when kids show uninhibited capacities for imagination, learning, and attunement to their environment.

I had not commented about this video when first watching it, but your impersonation of my sister at the beginning is very vivid... Jokes aside, this helped me understand her a lot. I was wondering how two autistic siblings could end up with such different world views and ways of thinking. This has been a massive key !

@Ember_Green

3 жыл бұрын

that's such a lovely comment - it's important to understand these things as well as challenge them & I'm so happy that it helped you understand your sister a bit better :D

What I'm getting from this is: ND children that are brought up in an environment where they have the material resources to freely explore their abilities and interests: "special, magical, otherworldly" ND children that brought up in an environment where their caregivers are putting all or most of their energy into simply surviving and don't have the opportunity to flourish: "weird, awkward, freaks"

@Ember_Green

Жыл бұрын

I guess that's true in cases, although I can't say I was "brought up in an environment with the material resources to freely explore my abilities or interests" - I lived with my single mum who was very much putting all her energy into survival, she just wanted to think I was magic, when really, I was suffering. But this kind of thinking does certainly stem from middle class Californians, the ideas themselves come from a place of privilege, but they have spread far beyond.

Nice work! Really interesting topic! (side note, I'm also jealous of how cool and purple-y your purple hair is. I dyed mine purple from a box awhile back and it was nowhere near as vibrant!)

@Ember_Green

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers dude! (Arctic Fox Purple Rain 😊)

What amazing work! This is the first Ponderful video essay I've watched and I so glad I found this channel. I was born in the early 70s and awareness and knowledge surrounding autism was almost non-existent. My parents were never wealthy or progressive enough to ever get introduced to the Indigo children movement, but I was part of the inaugural class of the Ayn Rand and Libertarian fever dream of "gifted" education. It didn't go well. I became aware of the Indigo children thing after my schooling, but I don't think I would have been drawn into it because I was painfully, deeply aware that even though I was very alien and different, I was also very cognizant of the fact that I would never be destined for great things or be able to solve the world's problems. Finally, after over 40 years of alienation, I've finally unpacked enough of my identity and where I find meaning in myself and life (trans, queer, autistic, leftist, atheist) that I think I can finally bring enough insight and unique perspective to the table to actually really help people (as I've been told many times in group therapy), I know I would be too overwhelmed to reach a wide audience. Fun fact, my favorite part of the experience of watching this video was rocking to aid my focus and catching Micah rocking to almost the same rhythm as she was talking.

Excellent video. I've been familiar with term of Indigo children for a while because my mother introduced me to this concept while I was still a teenager. To be fair, though, up until my mid 20s I was fascinated by occult and strange, from A.C.Clarke's "Mysterious Worlds" to Erich von Däniken's books about ancient Egyptian architecture and alien technology. These days though, I'm more into quantum mechanics, general relativity and particle physics and the world seems more fascinating and wonderous than I could ever have imagined. I'm still into vampires an werewolves though. I've read entire Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles and I'm not apologizing for it.

@Ember_Green

3 жыл бұрын

never apologize. i will still watch anything with witches in it.

I had that same experience with afterimages while practicing qigong! Anyway. fantastic video! Great great great rhythm of thought provoking humor and well explained facts, in a crescendo that reaches profound moral insight. I really enjoyed the juxtaposition of the indigo child and the recovered hippie. I often experience a similar dialog between my “scientist” self and my “shaman” self. Even if I was not caught in the web of the indigo business myself, I had a friend who was. I remember one time that I phoned his home and his mother answered, and she started explaining to me about telepathy, completely out of nowhere, and told me that my friend was gone to "talk to the trees", and that his issues with her were because she too had the gift for telepathy, but she was “denying herself”. Eventually, he grew out of that, but his mother didn’t. Since then, I started to dislike the new age movement, and how it monetizes on ignorance (both of theology/mythology/religion and of science) by selling comfort placebos and cult-like titles.

@Ember_Green

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for the comment! it was a bit of an experiment with the format, so i'm glad people like it! i was well immersed in new ageyness for a while & have a lot to say on the topic, especially the capitalistic & imperialistic nature of many new age industries, so watch this space :D

Its things like this that remind me about how people who used to make "predictions" about the future, such as Nostradamus and his wild claims with specific dates, is someone doing free association, writing it all down, and a few centuries of people finding events to correlate with those "predictions" to "prove" they were right.

Yep, definitely felt like I'm different as a kid. Never got in, very low emotional expressiveness.. and mom was and still is into spirituality. I was told I'm indigo but I never really cared. Why should people who don't know me tell me who I am? I always knew who I was, and so I knew that all these spiritual people mom dragged me to were making stuff up. I couldn't say to an adult that they're liars, so I remained silent. And as years go on, mom gets more and more radicalised. Every conspiracy theory is 100% true to get. Sad, seeing her shift from nature-loving into immigrant-hating. It's just bizarre..

I think a hidden casualty here might be the sibilings of so called "indigo children". Imagine growing up being told that your brother or sister is super special and you're just ordinary... like day in day out.

"A strong desire for needs to be met"... Oh wow, I'm such a visionary to want my existence to be accommodated.

i'm getting convinced that this channel was made specifically for me i would sweep for cameras, but I'm really interested in what other incredibly personally relevant thing you can make a half hour essay on

That is SO EERIE. My mother vehemently denies that I could be autistic. But she read multiple books about Indigo Children when I was a kid and told me I was one. She KNEW on some level, but she'd rather see it as some pseudoscientific mumbo-jumbo than as neurodivergency. The while description of childhood here is EXACTLY like my own. Right down to the "i was burned as a witch in a past life" (for me it was because I was a lesbian nun). I definitely have to bring this up during my diagnosis sessions. The coolest thing is that I had a dream where what I thought to be an angel called me "indigo" and I woke up and I was like "oh my god, that's what that was!!! It makes perfect sense! Wrong planate syndrome! My mother KNEW!". Sometimes it's pretty wild what our brains can do lol

Fantastic empathetic perspective on starseeds. I can picture an actual believer watching this video to the end, so this is a welcome step up. Excellent point on how we shouldn't literally alienate neurodivergent kids by telling them they are aliens

Thank you for this!❤ very well said!

My parents didn't think I was an indigo child or anything like that but I can remember them talking and saying that I was magical and other worldly and that I was going to do big things when I was older. Turned out I was just autistic :D

I've been diagnosed as "intellectually gifted" at 9, and always hated the term. I'd been struggling for years at that point to fit with other kids my age, and being given that label was a huge burden on me that just made things worse. In France, the formula "gifted" ("surdoué") has fallen out of fashion in the last few years, and the most commonly used formula nowadays is "high intellectual potential" (haut potentiel intellectuel"), and I'm very happy about it. I can't imagine how damaging, both emotionnaly and socially, it can be to be labeled as having supernatural abilities as a child.

This needs to reach more people. Thank you for making this.

🤯 I needed to see this video.

This isn't the point at all, but that lighting makes your eyes so vivid? They're so pretty! (Like, always pretty, but particularly in that lighting.) Also, this is pretty interesting for me because I hadn't actually known... much of this? But it's not really a direction that I tend to study.

@Ember_Green

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the complement 😊

I am so happy I found your channel.

@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023

Жыл бұрын

* waves * from the South Coast (Espoo)

This was such a great video! I had never heard of Indigo Children before!

@Ember_Green

2 жыл бұрын

thank you!

My mother is really into this stuff and always called me an indigo child growing up and I did get diagnosed with autism and adhd as an adult lol

❤ loved this subject, you rock

The intro to this video reminds me of the time I felt like I was a smaller version of myself living inside my head and that moving my regular body felt like I was piloting a giant robot version of myself.

Between this and our old chum Philippa, I'm convinced you're a rather excellent actress!

@Ember_Green

3 жыл бұрын

☺ thank you!

I am a fellow recovering hippie, and I totally thought I was an indigo child from middle school to 20. It never crossed my mind that I might find another autistic online talking about this kind of thing. I would love to hear more from you about new age belief because I'm still trying to process my feelings about it and you're articulating things I haven't had words for yet. Knowing more about where this woo-woo stuff comes from is really helpful for that, I think. Great video, thanks for all your hard work

18:37 I wasn't prepared for that READ!! 🤣 he was sitting on that one for a while, for sure. Waiting for the perfect opportunity to use it

When I first learnt about visual static. I was like, "oh that makes way more sense that being gifted with the ability to see auras". As the static was haphazard, and never matched what the hippy books all seemed to claim. Like when people were smiling the shift in shadow across their face would make their eyes look like near black empty sockets, rather than them glowing purple or yellow.

Wow @ 26:00 I finally hear what that is for the first time! Kinda wanna cry, hard. It's easy for me to see the deepest images of anything, an offhand always been that way. I look around, find such vivid beauty, when in that kind of environment. I can do my safe place if needed, it calms me. The feelings I witness from others are also felt, maybe too much. The crying, perhaps delight, it of course depends doesn't it. I take memories and can form my ideal place, set my scene and deescalate. Though, if there are loud noises, shouts of anger, machines, animals or other external disturbance, the effort is sabotaged.

Really interesting about the Closed Eye Hallucinations. When I was very young and was watching something scary like Star Trek (hey the aliens were scary to a little kid!) or Doctor Who I would screw my eyes shut and put my hands over them but I would still be seeing the show, I was just reinacting it in my imagination but it looked just like the show was being beamed into my head

I remember this video it was good, feels sad seeing you moved some videos away, I liked them because you talked about health in some of them. Tetris I've played it, I usually play Super Mario, also liked Banjo-Kazooie.

@Ember_Green

Жыл бұрын

I took some down for different reasons, I might remake some of them, and I changed the thumbnails & titles on others. I'm just trying to make the channel look nicer for new subs, and do SEO stuff :)

My favourite thing my mom did that definitely never had any long-term psychological effects on me was tell me that im special and psychic and gifted and smart and amazing and talented...and then never listened to a single thing I ever said and treated her opinion as correct and necessary 100% of the time. How am I supposed to save the world if I can't convince my mom that genetically modified food is literally all food and not poison.

Some of my stuff can look very psychic to others or feel inspired because the bulk of the processing from pattern to words is subliminal and generally faster than others, and when it occurs to me consciously it occurs full-formed. And it is a trait shared since childhood with Autistic truth-telling and secret-revealing and other violations of social codes in saying things that others don't. As a child it was prodigious and could startle adults. I was driven to call out adult hypocrisies.

Much love 🕉️♥️

@47riley47

2 жыл бұрын

Post viewing comment, and I loved it! You touched on almost every problem I have with the spiritual movement in how they "go too far" for lack of a better term. I wish people would rethink their ideas of "indigos" or whatever, because I believe if people truly saw themselves and everyone else as starseeds then that could foster a oneness in people and hopefully more peace etc etc Extra edit: I truly hope more videos like this get put out so we can have discussions on what self actualization actually would mean for EVERYONE not just the privileged

the key thing tho. I do that so much. I do suddenly just know where the thing I have been looking for is. probably a combo of a not great working memory with a wonderful long term one

i was told by my horseback riding teacher that i was an indigo child. now im autistic

Funny, a family member once told me I was an indigo child, but when I told them I was autistic, they just laughed

26:05 there's a name for those things you see when yer eyes are closed? there are some people who DON'T see those??? my life is a lie, i just always assumed everyone sees swirling patterns of colour when they close their eyes- i used to watch them as a kid till i got so used to them i basically ignored them, what in the heck??? i even have near-aphantasia! whattttt!!!!

You do look so otherworldly in this

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I thought that everyone had closed eye hallucinations.

i like the undertone of marxist analysis in the commentary

I was raised in the new age community and spent over a decade working as a professional psychic before being diagnosed with ASD. I'm a skeptic now.

28:30 Eh... will you allow me to help you help yourself describe seeing "energy fields"? Your description is very accurate there, and here's the funny bit: While you are describing what you see, you're trying to draw a picture of your words in the air next to you, and until that moment, the viewer is focused on your face. I can guarantee you that about 99% of your viewers who were following your hand while you were explaining it saw the outline of your face and hair over the wall in the background 🤣 It's almost as if you are drawing a ghost of yourself and making her appear :p And literally anyone can see it and rewind and make it happen again and even let your outline move around on and outside the screen. The image is latent response in the nerves on your retina, so wherever you look, it's there. So, for anyone who wants to "experience seeing energy fields", just go to around 27:00 and watch Ponderful's face while she talks and then follow her hand while she's explaining quite well what is happening: it's a burnt in image with relatively high contrast in your eyes that is superimposed over the background. We often see it happen even when we're not looking at something different but are slightly shifting our focus around someone's face or around an object. In such a case you can see the burnt in contrast outlines shimmering on and around the object or person you're looking at. The higher the contrast, the faster it happens and the easier it's noticeable. And another fun fact that some people might have noticed is that you can actually see rainbow colours around sharp edges. The easiest example I can find are curtains or the window frame while the sun is shining outside. Right on the edge you can see colours. While your eye shifts around you will also see the burnt in contrast of the window frame and the light outside. And you may notice that in the light part you see colours. That is also true for outlines of people and other objects, but on a window frame it's nice and still and you can see it just next to the frame fairly well. The reason for this, as someone might have guessed is actually gravity. The light ever so slightly bends around even relatively small objects, and different wavelengths will bend slightly more or slightly less, giving this rainbow effect around literally everything you see. I think the shorter wavelengths bend more, but that's just a guess based on longer wavelengths potentially being further away from an edge for longer, especially if the wavelength is longer than an edge is wide. The sharper the edge, the easier it is to see. The fuzzier the edge, the more different tiny rainbows are mixed, making it less visible or even perfectly white to your brain.

Commenting before watching this, feeling semi-anxious for some reason, because my mother would tell me I wasn't an indigo child, but something like it. (I don't remember the term she used...)

@jaesynn2015

2 жыл бұрын

Okay, post-viewing comment. That hit home in a way I was not prepared for. Thank you so much for sharing your experiences with this. It took a while into the interview for me to know for sure that it was (semi) farcical, because my mom embodies all that is new age, and everything you were saying I could hear her say. I almost stumbled down the path of a crystal or rainbow child (it was one of those that she called me), because it made my... divergence... feel purposeful, good. It's like you said, it both nurtures the neurodivergent child while placing an immense burden on them.

@Ember_Green

2 жыл бұрын

I'm happy that you found it worthwhile in the end 😊 I was very almost that person, so this was an exploration of myself too. It seems that more people than I thought can relate.

From what I can tell, autistic and other neurodivergent individuals have been magic literally for longer than we've been neurodivergent. The changeling stories are well known, as are the associations between autistic people and robots. This has also made me think about other disabilities and how they've been filtered through the lens of the fantastical. The most obvious example to me would be dwarfs. Dwarfs do exist for real; they are people with "dwarfism," and they share a name with a fantasy race that they likely inspired with the only distinction being that Tolkien decided to change the fantasy race's plural form to "dwarves." For mental disabilities, I've become half convinced that the standard portrayal of the modern pixie is actually an ADHD stereotype. Ultimately, this "indigo" stuff is just giving a new name to an old concept.

@Albinojackrussel

Жыл бұрын

It's worth noting that mythological dwarves are not consistently sized. Some are short, but others are not. Hell it's dwarves holding up the sky. They can't be short or we'd all be bashing our heads on it. And modern dwarves are an invention of Tolkien, taking some features of older dwarf myths, and also (according to Tolkien himself), Jewish people. The modern witch idea actually also has it's roots in medieval anti semitism. (Green skin, pointy hats, large noses and an association with magic/the devil) Meanwhile changelings don't just have their roots in autistic kids (almost certainly not ADHD), but also TBI's, schizophrenia, bipolar and any other seemingly sudden onset mental or physical health disorder.

To be fair, as an autistic person, I too look at ABA in horror

I remember wondering if I was an alien when I was a kid

PoV: "Your improv prompt is, you are an undiagnosed schizophrenic. Please describe your lived experience." Imagine this being your introduction to the channel though.

@Ember_Green

3 ай бұрын

Omg that wasn’t improv 😭 thanks for the engagement though! Oh and that’s called “a video” it’s not my whole channel. Happy to help.

So...the 20th century equivalent of neurodivergent people being interpreted as having access to the divine or spiritual planes (oracles, shaman, etc.)

I wonder, do any of you have this weird thing where you have really clear vivid visuel imagination, yet somehow faces are never really correct or even consistant, like they being shure they change whenever you are not focusing on them?

Can one relate a 100% to this and not be neuro-divergent? I ask because I share a lot of the struggles of neuro-divergent people, but don’t seem to have or do things that are seen as core symptoms. I have been screened for both autism and ADHD, and those screenings came back ”highly unlikely”, but something is obviously up since I can’t deal with life and other people the way it seems most people do, and it’s not just depression.

@Ember_Green

2 жыл бұрын

i couldn't give you a sure answer on that but would only say that autism & adhd are only two kinds of neurodivergence. there are dozens of other things under that umbrella. if you can, speak to someone with the expertise needed to give you answers.

@thebeaside

Жыл бұрын

Def look into other things. Yeah potentially other neurodivergence but also like personality disorders can show up on a spectrum and depending on type definitely affect ability to cope with life. Also I don’t know you so take out with a bunch of salt, but like life is hard to cope with and even without any kind of diagnosable difference can just be rough. Like a lot of neurotypical people with stable mental health struggle to cope with life and don’t ever feel like they have their shit together, they’re just usually better at hiding it. Being able to diagnose and potentially treat or better manage any mental illness or function differences is helpful for sure, but a lot of progress can be made by accepting the chaotic ride that is life and finding ways to make it work for you. You don’t have to be normal or do things normal or meet anyone else’s expectations for hope you live your life, it just has to work for you, so investigate what fills your life and what drains it and try to find ways to balance it out to you are able to take care of your needs but have a life that is mangeable and feels okay. Feeling great all the time is unrealistic, having it all is unrealistic, live imperfectly and make room for the good stuff and don’t be too hard on yourself. Hope this didn’t sound too preachy or positive psychology, I’ve just had 32 years of learning this shit the hard way and it’s only really starting to sink in now.

Genuinely thought in my preteens that I was an indigo child starseed alien dragon spirit that got "misplaced" on Earth. Nope, just ADHD and most likely autism.

@fraktaalimuoto

7 ай бұрын

​@@jailizcordero21I am autistic and also a practitioner ritual and mediation practices of esoteric Buddhism. I think one can be both autistic and spiritually sensitive. E.g. I think my autism has benefits in terms of my mediation practice. But that is how it can be with neurodivergence in general: there are benefits and disadvantages.

Mayb thats why i enjoy the channel of ocean keltoi, and aliakai, that are like nore pagans, ight agains the lolklish natsee elements and geerally chill. Also its a really good balance o calling bs out, but in a nice way. And with fun dry humor. But the balance of yeah spirituality n belies can be good and help and part o lie. and you still have to filter out the, they cal the esoteric often grifft or, other , flufybunny. But also resopectful nore pagan, that are also very antifash. and chill. And pretty openminded whyeve people are here to learn. What i want to say is pretty good to really see that, ah i can be open to ther being stuf and spirituality an religion, an th same time be sceptical of stuff that , and on guard.Becaue the is ao much bs there, and i mean legit grift esoteric and cult Ther i a balance of being respectful o belie and , being sceptical. Good channel to anyone interested even remorely in norse stuff too. and greek. An ocean keltoi is part of a sceptic group thats really progreive inclusive more about cult education stu and so. and deprogramming unny, progressiv stuf. But also he a norse pagan is part and that odd. But i want to say, you can hav a spiritual and sceptic side i man hat work great together.

Hey, I meet all those criteria (whike my IQ was high, Ill ignore the criteria)!

🤣🤣🙏

same tbh

My mom cast a demon out of me. Twice. The first time it didn’t work because the demon gave me supernatural strength and I (who had weight lifting class) was able to get away from my mother (who hasn’t exercised since she was a teen). I can hear things others can’t, am very sensitive to the sun and hate godly(lacy) clothes. I also tried to fit in with the other weirdos as school and dressed in black. So you see, she had no other choice. I’m better now that no longer have anything to do with her.

I do feel other people's energy - good or bad. But I don't see it as a super power but a curse

Wait is that real? Are you constantly hight? I cant tell

@pietpanzerpanzer5335

2 жыл бұрын

Oh nvm started paniking at 5 min but you only explain at min 8

@pietpanzerpanzer5335

2 жыл бұрын

Haha i am star children. Red star children. *soviet theme starts playing

@pietpanzerpanzer5335

2 жыл бұрын

Wait whyi feel that last part lol

Reiki has nothing to do with 3rd eye belief... chakras originated in India, Reiki in Japan... these masters are no masters of anything

My mom said I was a “Crystal child” when I was young because I could accurately “predict” the sex of babies in the womb. Like every single time. Without any failure rate. She would parade me in front of her pregnant church friends as a parlor trick of sorts. Once I became pregnant myself for the first time, I figured out how I was able to do it: Hormones. I could feel heightened aggression (positive **and** negative aggression) with my amab babies, and heightened emotional dysregulation with my afab babies. No trick, just hormonal “intuition” And yes, I’m autistic, but I wasn’t diagnosed as a child because of the prejudice against afab kids being diagnosed correctly by old white doctors who still think autism is something that only affects “boys”

Indigo children is bs but I want to tell you that just because things are explainable doesnt mean that you cant still take spiritual meaning from them.

@Ember_Green

2 жыл бұрын

I know. I did so for most of my life. It was remarkably easy to convince myself that all that stuff had spiritual meaning. I regularly went to spiritualist church with my mum & for a long time, even convinced myself that I had spirit guides who would definitely let me know if I was making a bad decision or putting myself in danger. Long story short, that...isn't a good move. I barely survived. It's only in the past 5 years or so that I have realised the truth & have no interest in returning. Thanks tho.

Indigo is new age and the law of attraction please be careful this stuff is dangerous

It's demons. Divination and familiar spirits. She need deliverance . The Lord Jesus Christ spirit the Holy Ghost will deliver it she repent!

@Ember_Green

2 жыл бұрын

still can't tell if this comment is sarcasm or not lol

@Bexstarartist

Жыл бұрын

@@Ember_Green it probably isn’t sarcasm. This is what my biological mother believes and told me all the time as a child. It was very damaging.

Ahhhhhh finally someone besides me is saying this!!!