Independents in the Modern Watch Industry with Moser, De Bethune, and MB&F | WatchBox Talks

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Tim Mosso hosts a panel of some of independent watchmaking’s most respected names to talk about the state of the industry. He is joined by Edouard Meylan of H. Moser & Cie., Maximilian Büsser of MB&F, and Pierre Jacques of De Bethune to tackle the triumphs and challenges their independent watch companies face as the industry continues to evolve.
The panel touches on a variety of subjects and how they navigate being both watchmakers and marketers. They discuss the advent of social media, the importance of watch auctions, the growing market of China, and the experience of winning a GPHG award. They also talk about their favorite recent watches, such as the H. Moser & Cie. Streamliner collection, MB&F's Perpetual Calendar and the BLVGARI Octo Finissimo.
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  • @davidhouston8017
    @davidhouston80172 жыл бұрын

    Bravo Tim! You’ve surpassed the awesome series of interviews from the last Dubai Watch Week, and I didn’t believe that was possible. Great panel, great questions and great job as host! Please put off law school for at least another decade 🙏👍⚡️

  • @theJade
    @theJade2 жыл бұрын

    "If you love watches, I don't think it's an issue." Favorite response of the interview. There are so many options outside of the hype watches!

  • @juandiegobuendia3031
    @juandiegobuendia30312 жыл бұрын

    4 GODS of the industry, representing everything that is right about watchmaking

  • @stickshifter8
    @stickshifter82 жыл бұрын

    Great job Tim, excellent interview. These three gentlemen were sincere, transparent and did not deflect questions. That speaks a lot to the integrity of their brands and products. Omega’s CEO has a lot to learn from these guys.

  • @dannysimenauer5745
    @dannysimenauer57452 жыл бұрын

    Congrats to Tim for getting these three independent CEO's together for a candid conversation. Enjoyed the insight on the watch industry and what they like/didn't like from each one. I was glad that the the CEO's recognized that their watches are going to mainly the high spenders, and not giving new customers a chance to buy their brands. Unfortunately, I did not hear a solution, but the first step is to recognize there is a problem.

  • @matthewcotton19
    @matthewcotton192 жыл бұрын

    This is one of the best conversations I've heard about anything in a long time.

  • @paulw5397
    @paulw53972 жыл бұрын

    Hi Tim, thank you for asking the question about Brexit. As a UK watch enthusiast it is making things difficult. I actually received a new Moser yesterday, but what should have taken three months took eight months due to Customs. No fault of either Moser or the retailer. I hope that brands like Moser have the patience to carry on shipping stock in this direction.

  • @jimmillett9224
    @jimmillett92242 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant and insightful interview. Tim now needs to be given an even larger audience on Netflix etc

  • @RunningFast
    @RunningFast2 жыл бұрын

    Well, that was awesome, thanks Tim & WB! Max always steals the show with his eloquence but Pierre had a killer powerful closing statement, love it.

  • @hunterphan5506
    @hunterphan55062 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Tim does such a wonderful job interviewing these three brilliant gentlemen. Can you imagine having a De Bethune, an H Moser and an MB&F in your watch collection?

  • @Joe-xo3xy
    @Joe-xo3xy2 жыл бұрын

    Tim and his question regarding dress watches- Unfortunately, I am going to take a shot at new media today, new media being the internet; So many inlfuencers have started this trend of getting a dress watch, wacking it on a casual strap and calling it an every day watch. This strategy of trying to make dress watches more casual to appeal to the younger market is a double edged sword because it is beginning to kill the dress watch genre and I do not think that it is as simple as Max has mentioned ''if you are a watch lover and collector, you will purchase a great product". If the dress watch genre is to stay alive which I sure hope it does because as a young watch collector at 40, I still love the romantic nature of owning a delicate Cartier, a delicate Patek Calatrava and so on. Therefore, retail partners need to educate, I hope to have the opportunity to educate because I do feel the need to have a beautiful dress watch that I could hand over to a loved one. It is up to partners like Tim to not just sell the experience but to understand the need for doing so, I feel a need to do so and as such, it will be much easier for me to sell the idea.

  • @matteociancio
    @matteociancio2 жыл бұрын

    What a trio !!! Amazing interview thanks Tim!! MB is phenomenal

  • @erikmemo
    @erikmemo2 жыл бұрын

    OMG 😱 Tim! Great, your best interview ever ! Absolutely loved this video. Thanks for putting together these three future Giants of High Horology

  • @salmana4239
    @salmana42392 жыл бұрын

    Greetings from Dubai Thank you for one of the best watch related videos on the independents.

  • @herbmerced7780
    @herbmerced77802 жыл бұрын

    What a great interview….great stuff

  • @knutvonheim3838
    @knutvonheim38382 жыл бұрын

    Great episode! Highly appreciate the format, questions, and fantastic guests! A most excellent and insightful show! Thank you and congratulations!

  • @davidhouston8017
    @davidhouston80172 жыл бұрын

    Bravo Tim! Your interviews at the last Dubai Watch Week were awesome, but you’ve upped the bar. Great panel, great questions (your preparation was duly noted) and super job moderating. Please put off law school for at least another decade! 🙏👍⚡️

  • @kenflip

    @kenflip

    2 жыл бұрын

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    @kenflip

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @hegid2317
    @hegid23172 жыл бұрын

    Very insightful ! Thank you guys.

  • @bke008
    @bke0085 ай бұрын

    privileged conversation to hear. thanks again tim!

  • @FirestormAA
    @FirestormAA2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome interview Tim! Love H.Moser & Cie, been on their brands for the passed coming 4yrs. Own them & loving them!!!! Back than when I mentioned Moser to my watch frnzs they will go.... 'what is that'.... kind of look. lol

  • @richardteevan4480
    @richardteevan44802 жыл бұрын

    Tim one One of your best interviews. Keep ‘em coming, great relevant questions

  • @awakim
    @awakim2 жыл бұрын

    That was a great discussion.

  • @ShnallBen
    @ShnallBen2 жыл бұрын

    Great interview Tim, it was a pleasure listening to this conversation

  • @tockingwatches2377
    @tockingwatches23772 жыл бұрын

    Great interview. As a small business owner, I can certainly relate to the learning curve and humbling ups and downs of entrepreneurship.

  • @shamaldass241
    @shamaldass2412 жыл бұрын

    This was a fantastic panel...and great interviewing work to finish on the lessons from failure that anchor current success. Also good to know they know who those damn flippers are!!!

  • @Moe90rules
    @Moe90rules2 жыл бұрын

    Tim, great stuff as always. Huge congrats getting those 3 legends together for an interview. Question: any chance you can go into Lang & Heyne at some stage? Talk about their history, their line-up, do an interview, or something else?

  • @barrylattuca5352
    @barrylattuca53522 жыл бұрын

    That was a great interview. The last question was must watch KZread. Many people will look at them and only see their present day success. But, the journey is much more interesting. The bottom line, never give up. I am glad they didn’t.

  • @Joe-xo3xy
    @Joe-xo3xy2 жыл бұрын

    my advice to the independents; In order to be even more successful, please try to give us more transparency into your brands, there is a reason independents have a flock of new collectors regardless of the new flipping market and this is due to transparency and the ability to connect with a brand. I have criticized the main stream brands of sort of being virtual and faceless, there is no one we can connect with in terms of the main stream brands, no designers , no creators. Therefore, I think to boost your (independent brands) success levels, do not be afraid to open up your doors to clients as well as publicizing it on the internet! It is very well needed in the current virtual environment we face today, it helps give further tangibility to you brands; It is a strategy you guys won't regret. DO videos introducing intimate moments or members of the brands and even day visits for existing consumers as well as prospective clients

  • @jolness1
    @jolness12 жыл бұрын

    Oh man! I am *so* excited for this.

  • @davidjb3671
    @davidjb36712 жыл бұрын

    It's rare to see the relentlessly positive Edouard Meylan throwing a bit of shade on a competitor (Bulgari), though no doubt an honest and heartfelt comment. I consider both the Streamliner and Octo as the newest sports-elegant icons and bought both, but I wear the Streamliner more often.

  • @asif9326
    @asif93262 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Tim.

  • @mramed8448
    @mramed84482 жыл бұрын

    Great episode...

  • @robin2thek
    @robin2thek2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video!

  • @bubbabrannan5915
    @bubbabrannan59152 жыл бұрын

    Excellent dialogue.... 🥃🥃🥃

  • @MrPolowu
    @MrPolowu2 жыл бұрын

    FANTIMTIC!

  • @shindilal3311
    @shindilal33112 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant !

  • @RedloxBeats
    @RedloxBeats2 жыл бұрын

    Edouard Meylan is a very smart guy

  • @standardh_
    @standardh_2 жыл бұрын

    Great job Tim. Have you gotten your De Bethune yet?? :)

  • @johnlacroix1639
    @johnlacroix16392 жыл бұрын

    WOW very interesting super kool ,1st class great info.,,, AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot ,keep up the great work.

  • @aaron2709
    @aaron27092 жыл бұрын

    Quadruple class act.

  • @gelmibson883
    @gelmibson8832 жыл бұрын

    Wooooo!

  • @brysoga
    @brysoga2 жыл бұрын

    I live in the UK and I bought my Moser streamliner direct from Moser online services, I paid them inclusive of VAT and they shipped me the watch direct from Switzerland. Dead simple!! @Ed Meylan if you follow the AP house route please don't be as pretentious as them. I've never felt so unwelcome as when I walked into the Madrid AP house

  • @jaredcoffin3907
    @jaredcoffin39072 жыл бұрын

    Very good stuff.

  • @johnchan7544
    @johnchan75442 жыл бұрын

    Ironic that this interview hosted by a reseller who tries to corner the mkt of certain independents like fpj and DB in attempt to control prices

  • @benficaM8888
    @benficaM88882 жыл бұрын

    wtf this is like an allstar line up, all in one video.

  • @user-fi5fr9us2t
    @user-fi5fr9us2t2 жыл бұрын

    It's nice to see and listen to this conversation, but in essence the whole watch industry just follows the Rolex way! From sells channels, to " finding they're identity". Rolex is king for a reason! De Berthune needs to work on the ergonomics, Moser needs to add the minute markers on the dials, and MB&f, make the dome thinner. Nevertheless, good luck to all!

  • @Panthers1521
    @Panthers15212 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, Get rid of the sunglasses.

  • @miazoi7891
    @miazoi78912 жыл бұрын

    It’s interesting because all three gentlemen dislike flippers yet Tim‘s business relies on flippers…. I guess free press is good press…

  • @jolness1

    @jolness1

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean maybe for Rolex but there is a difference between someone choosing to sell a watch after a few years (or longer) versus buying it just to sell it. I am too damn sentimental to sell my watches but even so, I wouldn't consider someone choosing to sell a watch after a flipper. Especially when they lose money, that's a bad business model lol.

  • @mikekane9213
    @mikekane92132 жыл бұрын

    I didn't have to pay for this? Sweet.

  • @VWatchie
    @VWatchie2 жыл бұрын

    Why the sunglasses? It draws too much attention and it’s silly. I’m out!

  • @jolness1

    @jolness1

    2 жыл бұрын

    You must be new here haha. That is Tim's look and has been for many years. I would say even if it bothers you that much, worth overlooking for the breadth of knowledge and the quality of his interviewing skills.

  • @ivanmejia6843

    @ivanmejia6843

    2 жыл бұрын

    Seeing Tim without sunglasses is like seeing Jack Nicholson without sunglasses. Something just feels wrong if they are not there.

  • @cordeliashamy4948
    @cordeliashamy49482 жыл бұрын

    The hypocrisy is stunning. It seems watch brands object to "flippers" despite making their margins, because their own inability to meet market demand is driving prices up. On the other hand, when the same piece gets auctioned, they appear to relish the sky high prices being attained. Somewhere along the way, these brands appear to have forgotten that they sell a discretionary and unessential item. Nowadays, they insist on who can buy their product, when they can buy them, at what price they can buy them, and when it comes to resale, if the customer can sell the product, when, to whom and at what price. It's beyond ridiculous and demonstrates the sheer arrogance that's permeated the watch industry. It's plain disappointing to see such stalwarts of the industry participating in this folly. As a watch lover, the current climate has completely killed my passion for this hobby.

  • @leemoore974
    @leemoore9742 жыл бұрын

    Respect. Best YT views provider -> Promo>SM!!

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