No matter what he had done or how long he was in the “box” this is unreasonable and unacceptable punishment.

@angeloflifelight

9 ай бұрын

If he's having issues, how do they think physiological torment, sensory depravity, withholding susitence, and confinement would fix that? Even prisoners are supposed to be treated better than that, especially juveniles like the doctor mentioned.

@tdb1328

9 ай бұрын

It’s absolutely disgusting what they have done. I’m behind and catching up on the videos, but does the judge address the fact that the defense paralegal and family members are taking pictures of the prosecutors/prosecution table for some reason??

@jennifernutt1698

9 ай бұрын

Agreed. No excuse. Hope they get a taste of their own medicine and lock them up for a long time.

@onthelake2381

9 ай бұрын

Doesn't matter what spin the defense trys it doesn't make what they did ok.

@ViaMirage

9 ай бұрын

Of course the actions by the parents are completely unacceptable, which any reasonable person would not dispute. But I do think it’s very ironic that the state is arguing how awful and psychologically damaging it is to be confined to a room or be put in solitary confinement while also doing exactly that to persons that are just a couple years older or of the same age that the son is in this case if such a person was to break the law. Because once a person is found guilty of committing a crime, and is over the age of 16 (legal age of criminal responsibility in the state of Florida), the state feels it is justified to be putting people in the same kind of confinement the prosecutor argues is a criminal and causes all kinds of terrible, damaging psychological effects to a person. Therefore, they are admitting the prison system is cruel and only causes further harm to the person that is confined rather than helping such a person rehabilitate and change their behavior. 1:40:08 (prosecutor argument) Because it is not unreasonable to think - just based on his pattern of behavior - that the son in this case could commit a crime in the future and be punished in the same way his adoptive parents were punishing him. I do hope however that he gets any support he feels he needs, and that that does not happen.

When I see both husband and wife drinking water during the few hours in court and they forbid their son from drinking for long periods of time, I feel outraged. These parents are monsters; where is the compassion parents show their kids when they act their age. Feels like the husband is threatened by a male figure at home and wants to destroy him. Nothing, nothing explains treating a child this way and unfortunately the parents if incarcerated, they will be treated better than their treatment to their son.

@JJ-ls4ej

9 ай бұрын

I could not agree more. Monsters, these so called “parents”

@victoriahammond9061

9 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. They will be in a cell but they will be able to see others, have access to water, food and a toilet. All of which is far to good for them

@jonik.1931

9 ай бұрын

Why do people like this adopt in the first place¿????????

@kell_checks_in

9 ай бұрын

​@@jonik.1931Tim used to be kind of a big deal inCatholic circles. There are some disgusting pressers of him preening with Bishops about mission projects, etc. This guy's all about dominance and appearances.

@diannebutler1807

9 ай бұрын

@@kell_checks_in Wow... that's a surprise!!

Never any kind words from him to his son. Just negativity and bullying. Hey big man your going down.

@daniellereid6539

9 ай бұрын

They're prison guards.

@molliewatson

9 ай бұрын

They both don't even say I love you before locking him in. They don't love him.. so sad

@carlosdeno

9 ай бұрын

I really hope so and I hope he fears for his pathetic life every day! Vile specimens.

@babybeasimplekindofvan7035

9 ай бұрын

Yes they are going to get their own locked box but at least they get a toilet and a sink!

@cheriamour2429

9 ай бұрын

I know I wanted to cry listening to HIM yelling and swearing at this poor boy. Mean SOB.

It must suck being an adopted child in a situation like this - not only being punished, but feeling like you don't even belong anywhere or to anyone. He can't live, eat or sleep among them. Can't even eat their chocolate... If they had had a dog, I bet it would have slept in the house.

@user-es4uj2lr6h

9 ай бұрын

It’s an awful way to live and happens much more than anyone knows.

@mochabrown9097

9 ай бұрын

As you stated the kid could not eat, sleep or eat, Why does this sound so much like a containment camp? Like some sort of prison with release to do chores only.

@traveltm

9 ай бұрын

He is not the type to have a dog. It would not be able to abide by his stringent expectations and I’m sure he would beat a dog for doing dog things.

@Evanjjk

9 ай бұрын

@@user-es4uj2lr6hso true ! I am one them.

@mariecleary

9 ай бұрын

Google just how many adopted children are murdered by their " Parents "

3:36 I love how this mental health professional destroys the defense telling them on their face this child's was mirroring the defendant's aggressive behavior towards himself onto other kids at school, specifically when he grabbed a kid by the neck because that was the way his daddy did to him 🎉 bravo marvelous ❤

@geoffpoole483

9 ай бұрын

The cross-examination of the psychiatrist really backfired. The defence attorney thought he had a "gotcha moment" with the Barry Goldwater quote but that blew back in his face.

@sylvializ

9 ай бұрын

@@geoffpoole483 I think the woman attorney's approach was too aggressive and they decided that the man was going to be better, but he seemed trapped in his own elemental questions. I think that the 'blaming the victim' defense was way too risky since it's a child. If that defendant walks, people on the streets are going to be really mad about it. Keeping the psychiatrist too long on the hot chair certainly wasn't the best strategy for the defense. I loved also when he said that he had his doubts about the child's 'extreme' behavior claims since not once the child was suspended for anything and we all know schools around the nation would recur to that right away whenever there were dangerous behavioral concerns for safety reasons. Just a day in the park for the state, let's see what they come up with today!!!

@tamseguin3839

9 ай бұрын

No that's not how it works. I don't care what that specialist said people that are bullied and get hurt don't go around hurting other people. That boy was already like that evil

@tamseguin3839

9 ай бұрын

​@@sylvializjust an asumption to think every teacher and school reports every child.

@sylvializ

9 ай бұрын

@@tamseguin3839 well, the school reports were included the defense was the ones who gave it to him to reviewing them.

If every child who kicked a ball against another child, or had green sprinkles in his possession were locked up as punishment, most of the population of school children would be in maximum detention.

@cynic256

9 ай бұрын

well, lets be honest about everything, the kid did a lot more than steal sprinkles and kick a ball at another kid. but regardless, nothing he did warrants the punishment from the parents. the parents simply did not have the skills necessary to parent this child

@kitterzy

9 ай бұрын

I was locked in my room for a day without food for wetting my pants in Kindergarten. From what I understand know, it’s like the chicken and egg scenario. Fearful I’d wet my pants, it would actually happen-or I’d wet the bed. Nothing like spanking a 4 year old for wetting the bed. I hate butterfly flyswatters to this day. Takes all kinds of parents doing things for less.

@AmiRa-wj9jt

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, Lock me up because I once stole a book from my cousin and lied to her that I didn't do it. I`m a "monster" too.

@tazania7227

9 ай бұрын

Exactly, very pathetic attempt to justify this inhumane and disgusting treatment of a child. This defense lawyer is horrible and not very competent. And I’m pretty sure he’s not coming through positively to the jury.

@lkm3s

9 ай бұрын

@@kitterzy That was some really ignorant parenting. I remember my stepson was inconsolable after weeing the bed and I was telling him it was okay and he said he didn't want a spanking. "Why would I spank you?" I said "I'm pretty sure you didn't want to wake up in wet pajamas! You didn't do it on purpose.....did you?" "No" he whimpered. "right, so you won't get a spanking we'll just get you new pajamas and change your sheets. It's okay, it happens to everyone, even adults sometimes!" Then his dad told him the story about how he accidently started to wee the bed as an adult because he dreamt he was at the toilet and my son was in fits of giggles. Empathy is the key to good parenting.

He even asked the police to put him in jail rather than put him back with his “parents”. So sad what he endured. No wonder he ran away!!

@faithlove4680

9 ай бұрын

😢

It’s called cruel and unusual punishment and we treat Lifers better than these parents treated their adopted child

@babybeasimplekindofvan7035

9 ай бұрын

Death row inmates get a toilet and sink and in most prisons, a tv.

@Lyddiebits

9 ай бұрын

​@@babybeasimplekindofvan7035and that is better treatment than this child received, I agree.

want to bet "mom" takes a plea deal after this. Dispicable people, so cold

@wotiluv

9 ай бұрын

Oh no no no they think they did nothing wrong they’re so pompous grosss

@redds7777

9 ай бұрын

Is the guy sitting near Mom with glasses her attorney you think ? He seems to be taking notes and smiling at inappropriate times

@cynthiamartin2197

9 ай бұрын

@@redds7777 appears to be..

@cinloo763

9 ай бұрын

Why is mom allowed in court room?

@Rebeccaz910

9 ай бұрын

I bet she does

They hated the kid. Period.

It always amazes me that if their case is weak they will try to insult the intelligence of the professional witness

I am livid! Even listening to the defense try to justify the putting a boy in a box is making me shake in rage.

@mrs.sandracastroabadia9785

9 ай бұрын

I absolutely agree with you. It’s just unbelievable ‼️

This case is indefensible. I don’t see how a jury brings back anything less than guilty. At the end of the day nothing this kid did deserved to be isolated and locked inside of a box in the garage like this

@wotiluv

9 ай бұрын

I agree. He was offered 24 months plus probation for a plea but he turned it down. Shows how pompous he is.

@HouseOfVirgo

9 ай бұрын

Agreed. How that defense could say his behavior was warranted for that kind of discipline is beyond me. Why are we still punishing children!?

@sunitamosesesq

9 ай бұрын

@@HouseOfVirgo hi fellow virgo! Isn't it crazy that there wasn't even a room or a bed for him in that new house in FL? Yet they hired someone to build that box in the garage? Isn't that enough proof that they never intended this as a temporary punishment? This was how they intended to keep him, period. It's unbelievable.

@Maya-rt3ur

9 ай бұрын

Definitely agree

@victoriasimpson1501

9 ай бұрын

Are they trying to suggest he was a danger to the siblings? Or to the school? What is their defence?

Poor kid. She couldn’t even say good night to him. All he got was the door being locked behind her. This is heartbreaking.

Not once is there any kindness in the way they speak to him ,it's truly awful .

@debsibson7071

9 ай бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing.

@VTheYo

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely no love…not even in saying “good morning.” When no love is spoken, how in the world do they expect him to treat them with respect and love? Mind boggling.

@Lyddiebits

9 ай бұрын

It's hard to hear, they sound like they are speaking to more or less to a servant or slave, and locking the boy up. I just can't hate this enough 😡

@brendamckinley3036

9 ай бұрын

Oh sure she asked him plenty of times-"are these dirty?" Like she was hoping she didn't have to actually touch anything in that room

How come this defendant is allowed to turn back, and consult with his wife, the CO-CONSPIRATOR?!?!

@mikeandmals

8 ай бұрын

Seriously!!! They are being such a distraction! How is this being allowed?

The fact they offered him 24 minths and he put his kids thru this anyways is deplorable. No excuse whatsoever for any of this mans actions. I hope the victim takes him to the cleaners after trial also. He deserves every penny.

@stayhydrated8321

9 ай бұрын

24 months for crimes like this is insane… these cases will lead to the death of a child if not discovered.

@DanielleStarry

9 ай бұрын

@@stayhydrated8321a lot of cases aren’t taken seriously if the victim doesn’t die

@user-py6xv2er8u

9 ай бұрын

Now he’s in a mf cell !!! And she’s next !!!

This poor baby. My god. Hearing him cry, them scream at him, then him crying. No wonder why he can’t talk. This is HORRIFYING & CRIMINAL! I hope they BOTH GO TO PRISON!

These parents show no remorse, they hate this child

I absolutely love this psychiatrist!!! When he said the Drs didn't know he was living in a box! Cracked me up!! "So, you think they are mean", YES! OMG, "you didn't tell the teachers your response is going to be put him in a cell for hours at a time".

@bijanka

9 ай бұрын

I agree. I know the doctor stammered quite a bit but I thought he really hit his stride and he made me laugh involuntarily with that response.

@rebalspirit

9 ай бұрын

​@@bijankaI think the stammering was more about incredulity at the obvious questions by the prosecutor. She had a list of questions she was going to ask but she didn't listen to his answers so she repeatedly asked a question after he'd just given the exact information she asked. She's young. She'll get better. 😅

@cloudie9druoid172

8 ай бұрын

He is 💯accurate and on point, I agree with everything he’s saying

@caterinawilliams998

4 ай бұрын

​@@bijankaagree... especially when the defense lawyer didn't ask a question clearly and the doctor thought ( or maybe be pretended to) he was asked if you could have diagnosed the defended as a psychopath 😅

For every day that boy spend in that box, these scumbags need a year of isolation! The way their lawyers are pointing out every misbehaviour of the victim is sickening. He's a CHILD, a child that has been exposed to more cruelty than anyone should ever have to. He's learned aggression to be how ppl handle their grievances. The ones to blame for his misbehaviour are the ones who were ADULTS misbehaving in the same way. All children have their moments of pushing boundaries, but this child had parents teaching him NOTHING about love, compassion, kindness. Only unfairness. They really are evil, awful humanbeings. The fact they are fighting it proves they have no remorse, the fact they now force their children to go through all this, just wow..

@Mary200-61

9 ай бұрын

Oh when the parents go to prison, they will find out what it’s like to be in solitary confinement. They will be killed if put in general population! I hope they are put in GP, it would be poetic justice.

I live in Jupiter down the street from these people. Horrified when I heard this story. I hope they are both locked up for a very long time, to experience what they did to their son.

@cloudie9druoid172

8 ай бұрын

Yeap pretty sick deplorable monsters man

@caterinawilliams998

4 ай бұрын

Did you use to know them? Did you ever notice anything unusual about the family? How is the area topographically, are the houses really far from each other or there is a feeling of close friendly community...

Is it just me or is the male defense attorney literally terrible at his job

@Maya-rt3ur

9 ай бұрын

No I find him same and his smirking annoys me

@carlosdeno

9 ай бұрын

He’s trying to discredit a Professor and undermine his testimony, with respect it’s not going to happen. The man’s title alone should of told him that, he came across as a complete fool. Not his finest moment.

@lisasorce2258

9 ай бұрын

He seems clueless……

@ukguy

9 ай бұрын

Tbh he doesn't really have much chance of winning the case anyway, there is too much evidence against them.

@caterinawilliams998

4 ай бұрын

No it's not you, you are absolutely right, the male defense lawyer comes across shockingly unprepared...this professional expert witness is very competent and effective and he will crush the defense

I came into this willing to hear out the parents, but it's been the dad's lawyers that have taken me from "lets hear this out" to "ok, guilty" to now "straight to solitary you cowardly evil butthead!" Also give this kid a lifetime supply of green sprinkles!

@DanielleStarry

9 ай бұрын

All of the sprinkles!!

@ElkeSiegburg

9 ай бұрын

Hello, that is a description of exactly my inner process of opinion. Only I have no clue about what the term "green sprinkles" means. I am a German and could'nt find a proper translation. Would you please do me the favour and explain it to me? Greetings from Cologne🤗

@feyrannahunter1062

9 ай бұрын

@@ElkeSiegburg greetings. By green sprinkles I meant literally the sprinkles that go on donuts or cake in the color green. One of the "misbehaviors" the parents attorney were complaining about the boy was the he took a bottle of green sprinkles at school. They were acting like this was a horrible deed instead of a silly thing any child might do.

@cloudie9druoid172

8 ай бұрын

And he deserves a lifetime of lucky charm marshmallows

The way the mother says “good morning” is chilling. No warmth and goes right into making bed and such. It’s as if saying wishing he wasn’t there and he is a bane to her life that has to go out there and deal with her child!!!

@VTheYo

9 ай бұрын

Yes! It’s heartbreaking!

I don’t understand why this parents are allowed to be together at the same room, sharing information to recreate the case on their favor

@astaraoneill9166

9 ай бұрын

Me neither!!

@nadinedockery-green5192

9 ай бұрын

I don’t think she should be there but then again, she’ll have access to KZread.

@sallycinnamon5370

9 ай бұрын

@@nadinedockery-green5192I think it’s fine she is present. I don’t think they should be allowed to talk though.

@beachnut4449

9 ай бұрын

Nothing will ever look to be in their favor. This entire case is evil.

Who in their right might would have let this go to trial when the state offered a two year plea deal.

@vida2515

9 ай бұрын

Cos he is an Arrogant MF! That’s why…

@cindydewey9514

9 ай бұрын

I know, right?? Just in the way they talk to him they just sound like monsters.

@tawannaarmstrongivory

9 ай бұрын

A narcissist

@_introvertlife3692

9 ай бұрын

Only two years? Wow. He should have taken that

@lr8607

9 ай бұрын

Legalized gambling: roll the dice, see if you get less time after a trial.

This poor child. Hacked the firewall of the school and factory reset the computers, 👏🏻 call the GD CIA or Anonymous and let his genius mindset go to work. And get him surrounded by physicians and friends that actually care about him and his well being.

@Sallylilly1812

9 ай бұрын

Yeah and it sounds like he just reset it to play games, which is something I’d put in the realm of a typical child misbehaving if they knew how to do it. Now through the lens of it being the only thing he’s locked in a room with for 10+ hours a day? Who wouldn’t do that?

@spacesigns4561

9 ай бұрын

A great plan!

@kell_checks_in

9 ай бұрын

IKR? I'm getting Frank Abagnale vibes. (He may have swiped the Texas Instruments calculator because it had advanced math functions.)

I knew nothing of this case before I started watching it here as im from Canada. If this child is as smart as I think he is , his behaviour could have started because of boredom at school. None of the behaviour ive heard thus far constitutes being locked away. If they were so concerned with family safety why not call the police? They speak to him with so much contempt for him.

It is obvious they have zero love for this child, tons of resentment and just completely annoyed he exists in their world.

I can't believe this defense attorney is trying to say that ' stealing ' sprinkles is a reason to punish a child worse than a super max prison

@cloudie9druoid172

8 ай бұрын

They got the defence attorneys they deserve 😂😂😂 idiots

@ellenstecko2443

7 ай бұрын

Right. This defense attorney is awful

I think the therapist did a very good job in cross-examination!! Not letting the defense trip him up in his words. That was a lot of information for him to go through and he seemed to have a good recollection of all of it.👏

@user-rb8mj5ci4n

8 ай бұрын

Totally agree. The therapist is calm, collected, and answers with knowledge

Why is his wife allowed in the courtroom when she awaiting trial for the same offenses?

@jo3608

9 ай бұрын

I wondered the same thing, as I thought her case would be after the Father of the Year's case.

@LiLHarOak

9 ай бұрын

It’s a public trial…it’s no different than what we are doing 🤷‍♀️, she’s merely up close and personal vs. watching on a phone, computer or tv… I’m sure whomever is prosecuting her case (if not the same prosecutor currently trying this case) is also present or has someone present on their behalf as well…

@fanofthedog

9 ай бұрын

seems like you'd want to at least pretend to be heartbroken about the child that was your son for the most part@@LiLHarOak

@LiLHarOak

9 ай бұрын

@@fanofthedog well, unfortunately, those jurors and anyone else observing her…won’t be applicable as being a selected juror…and that *sucks* …it really *really sucks.* To be clear, I am in agreement with you, I am only stating what I would consider to be truthful. It’s unfortunate *we* get to see and observe her in this light, not a care or worry in the world, aside from what appears to be gathering every last nanobit of info that may possibly be brought against her at her own trial, to be prepared, and that’s sad. It’s a true reflection of character and i would consider going as far as saying a *silent admission of guilt* …also my own opinion. She knows she screwed…so does he.

@Maya-rt3ur

9 ай бұрын

She shouldn’t be allowed in there

that's really disgusting that he isnt' allowed access to a bathroom. with the small confined space, having his bucket for feces and urine and having no ventilation is really disgusting. no fresh air? these ppl are mental.

This defence attorney is a mess. & No matter what the child was doing/how he was acting nothing makes locking a child in a box an appropriate thing to do

The defence attempting to discredit an extremely intelligent man of very high attribute is laughable. Clutching at straws. It’s over for these two people. They have been finally found out and will now know what’s it’s like to live in a box for something they are truly guilty for!

The defense team is putting and painting the victim as big criminal who deserve to be in jail. It’s really disgusting those defendants and their attorneys have no shame !

@jenjo227

9 ай бұрын

I agree how do you look that child in the eyes and tell him his actions made it justifiable for his parents to lock him up like a death row inmate shame on those defense lawyers and those horrible parents thank god he was found before things got worse!!

What did this kid ever do to deserve his mother being so cold and dehumanising to him. This is a lesson in how to turn a child into a problem child

@tdb1328

9 ай бұрын

I don’t understand how she and her attorney are sitting there when she will be tried for this also when his case is over. I also thought she might say she’s a victim of her tyrant husband, but she’s there in support. Holding hands coming in and out. I feel terrible for their other kids who were seeing their brother in a box. The youngest wanted to go in or have him come out. Even he knew something was wrong. 😭😭😭

The defense is pathetic.

Very knowledgeable Doctor and very believable and blew the defense attorney away.

@FierceIntellect

9 ай бұрын

He was incredible!

Everybody has their electronics open. Amazing. No respect in this court.

@jerseygirl6155

9 ай бұрын

yes! I posted a comment about this. It appears the woman behind the mother took a photo of someone at the states table or area-was it the son? She should be held in contempt!

@cheriamour2429

9 ай бұрын

@@jerseygirl6155 I know! And to me, she keeps looking down, so I know she's using her phone. Dissect for court, throw her out!

@Lyddiebits

9 ай бұрын

Maybe different areas have different guidelines? Idk. They aren't hiding their electronics, this judge doesn't seem like one to allow something like this, if it isn't allowed, but idk.

I don’t think I could ever be a defense attorney … you have to completely be able to disconnect & disassociate any kind of feelings … this poor child was treated so poorly not only once in his life by his biological parents but twice and he still seems to have a very forgiving heart ♥️🙏🏼

@ananabi9910

9 ай бұрын

Prosecution all the way

@leopardprints

9 ай бұрын

I think the reason the defence attorney is faltering so much is that he knows what he's saying is absurd and indefensible.

@Justaskme781

9 ай бұрын

Do we know his biological family treated him badly? I thought they gave him up for a better life

@cloudie9druoid172

8 ай бұрын

To be fair who knows the situation of the biological parents. Just the fact that they brought him to an orphanage shows they loved him and wanted a better life for him something they clearly couldn’t give for whatever reason. But to a child unfortunately they see it as neglect and abandonment and blame themselves 😢

@leopardprints

8 ай бұрын

@@cloudie9druoid172 It was likely poverty and they were desperate. All the money spent on international adoption could be spent to support kids to stay in their families. There are charities who work to keep kids out of orphanages. But yeah, a baby will experience it as loss and abandonment. And this poor boy has experienced another abandonment, probably why he was so willing to forgive his adoptive parents. Tragic.

This man is going to regret till his dying days that he did not take the deal of two years in prison. I cannot see how the jury could come back with anything other than guilty. His deluded dream of acquittal is dashing as the trial goes on.

@Sallylilly1812

9 ай бұрын

And that judge looks READY to hand down a sentence. 😂

@Jamama4

9 ай бұрын

Agreed, he will regret having this all out in public. A two year sentence, wouldn't he be out in months?

@Sweetiepie68

9 ай бұрын

I COMPLETELY AGREE!!

@jennitsu12

9 ай бұрын

His own arrogance will make him pay 😂

@bigbananafeet8147

8 ай бұрын

It's called narcissisum

Why why did this boy not tell his teacher or someone at school? Run away go to a police station? These 2 people on trial have literally broken the spirit of this child. Why are they allowed with cell phones iPads etc in the courtroom. Absolutely DESPICABLE there is no remorse with these 2 people

@Woodman-Spare-that-tree

9 ай бұрын

Fear

@Sonogirl

9 ай бұрын

My guess is Stockholm Syndrome. Especially after hearing his testimony

@glancpa

9 ай бұрын

He did as soon as he felt he could. He ran away then went to school.

@rowmo

9 ай бұрын

​@@Sonogirlyes... omg when he said his parents simply made a mistake and it shouldnt be held against them... this after describing what he went through as dehumanizing, almost like a genocide. He now says he is apathetic to the situation... poor boy. He deserves so much help and love and care

@sallycinnamon5370

9 ай бұрын

He didn’t feel as if he deserved anything better. If you tell a child they deserve something for years…they’ll feel like they do. We heard them threat that if they heard anything bad from school he’d be home school in the box.

Prisoners who stay more than a few days in solitary literally slowly go crazy. The mother shouldn't be looking at her lawyer's phone. She looks like she's watching something that's normal. I'd be hanging my head in shame. The husband seems to only care about people seeing what he did.

@daniellereid6539

9 ай бұрын

The judge is upset, he's not going to go easy on him.

@trusttheprocess5618

9 ай бұрын

I noticed as well. Husband is just looking over at the people seated and the judge trying seeing how they react to certain things that happen

@ElizabethGrindon

9 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. I would be hanging my head in shame.

His beady little eyes giving cold stares. How is he not sinking in his chair and appalled by seeing and hearing his cruel self on video? 🤷🏼‍♀️

@djeanie4934

9 ай бұрын

His wife as well. She looks like she’s taking notes as if she’s a journalist.

@pelosishammer50

9 ай бұрын

They look like rat face ferrets. Their name is very fitting.

the cross of the psychiatrist is painful. One of the most ineffective lawyers IVE EVER WITNESSED

The therapist had a beautiful come back every time.

hope the young man has been getting counseling and gotten some loving and supporting adults.

@Cp-wo1ly

9 ай бұрын

He’s in Florida so I kind of doubt it. But I hope so

The defense gives this guy the opportunity to say “his cell” a dozen times. Witness : he was in his cell 15+ hrs Defense: Would it change your opinion if he was in overnight 10hrs or so and 3hrs during the day? Me: so approximately just 2hrs less? So you’re admitting he was in the cell 13hrs? Yikes, that is not better 😡

@kassandraahuero7962

9 ай бұрын

I was isolated by my step mom I wasn't locked up but she controlled my food and her kids got whatever food they wanted they would go out to eat and go to movies while I stayed home and cleaned I would cry as soon as they left these defense attorneys are victim blaming this poor boy he may have had ADHD or autism their is no excuse to put him in prison for these type of behavior!

@chelsearoberts9035

9 ай бұрын

Right? Like I think it’s safe to assume that no, his opinion is not changing, but that’s fine let the jury hear it again 😂

@lolalovesme2987

9 ай бұрын

@@kassandraahuero7962 I'm sorry you were treated that way. I hope life is better for you now and that your stepmonster is out of your life.

@ViaMirage

9 ай бұрын

Obviously the actions by the parents are completely unacceptable, which any reasonable person would not dispute. But I do think it’s very ironic that the state is arguing how awful and psychologically damaging it is to be confined to a room or be put in solitary confinement while also doing exactly that to persons that are just a couple years older or of the same age that the son is in this case if such a person was to break the law. Because once a person is found guilty of committing a crime, and is over the age of 16 (legal age of criminal responsibility in the state of Florida), the state feels it is justified to be putting people in the same kind of confinement the prosecutor argues is a criminal and causes all kinds of terrible, damaging psychological effects to a person. Therefore, they are admitting the prison system is cruel and only causes further harm to the person that is confined rather than helping such a person rehabilitate and change their behavior. 1:40:08 (prosecutor argument) Because it is not unreasonable to think - just based on his pattern of behavior - that the son in this case could commit a crime in the future and be punished in the same way his adoptive parents were punishing him. I do hope however that he gets any support he feels he needs, and that that does not happen.

What I don't understand, what was the parents' next step after locking him in a box, chain him up. What were they going to do once he turned 18, release this dangerous monster (per parents) to the world ? Something's not adding up with his parents' story.

@cynic256

9 ай бұрын

kick him out. many people are sent into this world after being subjected to terrible parents.

@wotiluv

9 ай бұрын

I’d like to know how the parents treated this child when he was an infant Children don’t just turn hostile for no reason.

@allabouttheshade

9 ай бұрын

I think he may have been chained up, I remember in one of the first videos he asked if he wanted the Ankle bracelets. But definitely curious what would happen when he got to legal age.

@angiedawn4579

9 ай бұрын

@@cynic256but they wouldn’t do that. They enjoyed watching him suffer…

@Sonogirl

9 ай бұрын

@@allabouttheshadeHe wasn’t chained up. I believe dad referred to getting him an ankle monitor since he kept wandering the streets at night

Top marks to the cameraman/men who are doing a great job keeping the jury off screen and the quality of the audio as well as video. Thank you Law&Crime!

@mariadavis8745

9 ай бұрын

And letting us see the defendant’s expressions.

@NoraZiehr-ei3gn

9 ай бұрын

Don't agree about the audio. Couldn't hear much of what was being said on the recording.

@yufusTheFag

9 ай бұрын

@@NoraZiehr-ei3gn I think you might be hard of hearing babes. Get your ears checked

@Mary200-61

9 ай бұрын

Kudos to the Law and Crime channel. Always impressed with their coverage.

@Ms2unique4u

9 ай бұрын

Actually, kudos should go to the judge! I’ve never seen a judge get on and stay on the attorneys like this judge did when they would walk away from the mic, which blows my mind how often it happens, but they always want to be the first to tell the witnesses to make sure THEY speak loudly into the mic! It’s like the attorneys have an allergy to the mic and try and stay away from it at all cost! I’ve watched many trials and this is ALWAYS an issue. However, in this case, the judge was on top of it and I’m incredibly thankful to him for that! This was one of the best trials as far as audio goes and the difference was 💯% due to the judge! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Hats off to the judge!! 🧢

I just cannot get my head around the fact that neither parent has shed a tear. Im sure if my worst parenting moments were recorded and shown back to me i would be an emotional mess, and i have never ever done anything like this to my children. But there have been times my children got a telling off for something that afterwards i wonder was it that extreme that it even deserved the telling off and it would play on my mind afterwards, so i just cannot fathom how they sit stoic like this kid, his feelings and the long term effects of this will or may have on him do not even matter to them. Im baffled.

They knew they were in the wrong as they kept this form of punishment a secret, moving the mattress and desk to the toddler room is an example of trying to hide evidence from police.

This is unacceptable !justice for this boy please❤️

I really like this Judge. Too bad these idiots can't have respect for him and the court and shut their phones off.

Sheesh this defense attorney. And how is Timothy allowed to talk to his wife. Don't understand that.

@AmiRa-wj9jt

9 ай бұрын

When the wife and the woman behind her were "playing" with laptops, it was the height of their rudeness. Disgusting behavior of "adults" who think they are masters of "punishing" a child in the way they think is appropriate.

I’ve watched/listened to almost 4 1/2 hours now… this defense atty needs to just give it up. He’s not getting anywhere, he’s likely annoying the jurors, and he’s digging their hole deeper. Sir, your client locked his kid in a box and treated him worse than an animal. He was wrong. Accept it and move on.

@FierceIntellect

9 ай бұрын

Right! Even the judge basically told him Wrap it up…When he asked how much longer he would be!

both are sadistic. there’s an older woman sitting in gallery behind him that i would bet is Tims mother. same mean demeanor. Poor little guy gets born in Vietnam and come here too the land of promise and opportunity to get put with these monsters. Why would you adopt a child only to treat them like you dont want them?

@maryvsun

9 ай бұрын

I was saying the same, the old blonde lady with short hair is very mean looking. She is Tracey's mom, very small lips.

I felt sad when he said they made a mistake he was trying to excuse they're cruelty

The defense attorney came in late and he's not prepared. The psychiatrist is prepared. The defense attorney discusses adhd. Putting a kid with adhd in a box would drive them crazy. I think he had attachment issues. Putting a kid with attachment disorder in solitary confinement with prison guards would make it worse. On the stand he said he was apathetic. They put him in a box so they didn't have to deal with him.

@geoffpoole483

9 ай бұрын

That was a very poor cross-examination. I think the defence tactic of blaming the victim will backfire.

@nettiea9384

9 ай бұрын

Poor guy scrambling to create a defense where there is none. Most times in cases of obvious guilt I feel bad for the defense atty. the struggle is real!!

@nettiea9384

9 ай бұрын

@@geoffpoole483agree… blaming an 11-14year old for the cruelty his parents showed him. Disgrace!

@techninja4136

9 ай бұрын

You are so right! I have ADHD and can’t even be in a room without a window; much less just sit without something to do. When the defense attorney tried to him off almost burning down the house because he messed with an outlet I had to laugh. Of course he messed with the outlet!! I was 30 and complimented my dad’s new TV - instead of thanking me for the compliment he told me not to take it apart 😂. Us ADHD kids are an inquisitive bunch.

@ukguy

9 ай бұрын

The psychiatrist said psychopathology and he tried to pretend he said psychopathy lol... totally different things.

it's sad that the son is apathetic but it is no surprise. Love wasn't unconditionally given, he deserves love. Hopefully love and therapy will turn his life around.

@hopeg8031

9 ай бұрын

I imagine the child is apathetic about most things. He had to shut off his emotions just to make it through each day or they would have caused him to go insane. I think that’s also why he has a hard time remembering things.

If any who just tunes into this trial without knowing what it’s about, listening to the defence, might assume that the child is the one on trial.

@mkm6458

9 ай бұрын

Exactly what I thought

All I have to say is If those parents truly don't see that they have done anything wrong, despicable or deplorable then they both need some severe mental help. They are sitting there in court researching and searching who knows what in an effort to keep them from being put in an 8' X 8' cell ... talk about Kharma!!!!!!

@terryellis7692

9 ай бұрын

I bet the jail cell is bigger

@cynthiamartin2197

9 ай бұрын

@@terryellis7692 and they'll have roommates to keep them company ;)

@MajorCLJ

9 ай бұрын

If they felt what they did was ok…why would they stage a bed in the room with the crib after they found the boy

If (WHEN) the Judge sentences then, I REALLY hope he does a 'Dad Lecture' prior to administering the judgment!

3:08:36 So, let me her this straight... the defense attorney is trying to claim that the treatments this boy was given didn't work which is why the parents took more extreme measures HOWEVER, THE TREATMENT PROVIDERS DIDN'T KNOW THIS HUGE MISSING PIECE… *THAT THE BOY WAS LIVING IN A BOX when he was at home?!?* MAYBE if they'd known THAT, they'd have tried treatments that addressed the fact that *THE BOY WAS LIVING IN A BOX* 📦

@lovenessrusike1884

9 ай бұрын

Very good point!!

@user-qt3my8us9s

9 ай бұрын

The looks on their faces when the therapist mentioned that was priceless!!

@sallycinnamon5370

9 ай бұрын

Seems like a lot of these diagnoses were based on the reports of the parents. They said all the right things to get an ODD diagnosis and then used it to justify worse and worse treatment.

@sarahs2288

8 ай бұрын

They’re mandatory reporters, so the boy have immediately been removed from the home. I assume his parents threatened him to not tell anyone.

I have so much contempt for these so-called parents and their lawyers, I wonder how defence council would feel if it were their kid.

Everyone is talking “no window, no light… how about NO OXYGEN?!?! Lack of quality of air for so many hours a day?!?! Wow.

@67jujub

9 ай бұрын

​@@soupnfreshHe wasn't allowed to use it unless one of the adults turned it on.

@spacesigns4561

9 ай бұрын

@@soupnfreshwell. That makes it better.

@leek-te5dx

9 ай бұрын

No he was not allowed to turn on the AC the Father said so and if he does he'll be in trouble. Ronan responded he was hot the Father through the Ring said no.

I really like this Dr.. that is testifying. He explains things very well.

@Char_43

9 ай бұрын

He's the Hero of this trial.

@cynic256

9 ай бұрын

hes definitely burying the defendant.

@daniellereid6539

9 ай бұрын

The defense attorney needs to sit down.

@DiMostra77

9 ай бұрын

This Dr ate the defense attorney up! He has him shook

@carlosdeno

9 ай бұрын

The man is a Professor and that title doesn’t come easy, he just buried the defense.

Someone needs to check the Male Defence attorney's qualifications. He is possibly the worst attorney I've ever seen!

I hate that defendant. What a monster....unbelievable.

The way the parents don’t even show any remorse is infuriating to watch!

The defence is arguing that the kid had ODD OR ADHD back in 2015, but that doesn't explain away why he was kept in a room in the dark for 16 hours a day, with nothing.

Most defense attorneys would’ve literally asked 2 questions and called it a day. Instead he kept him on the stand even longer so if The jury didn’t hear how he felt about the cell, they do now!

Is that her lawyer next to her taking notes for her trial? Seems unfair that this is allowed.

@kell_checks_in

9 ай бұрын

Since the mother won't be testifying, it doesn't matter. This is all public record already.

Defense attorneys are almost unwatchable. They’re giving me a headache lol

@sylvializ

9 ай бұрын

I said the same thing 😂 poor husband or friends she looks like there's no argument she wouldn't win ugh, despicable

BOTTOM LINE: They adopted a child who was too smart for them. They did not know how to channel his intellect. Because of his curiosity and boredom he challenged them. They are the poster children for who should NOT adopt children.

Does not matter what he did there is no reason to lock this boy in a box and not feed him properly or allow him to go to the toilet This father is a monster

@cynthiamartin2197

9 ай бұрын

so is the mother

@spacesigns4561

9 ай бұрын

Agreed.

@spacesigns4561

9 ай бұрын

@@cynthiamartin2197 Agreed.

@glancpa

9 ай бұрын

100% what did they do to the daughter to make her submissive and sit in her room reading for hours in end

I really hope Lego Head takes the stand and refers to his notes. The defense taking on a Professor was very embarrassing, not his finest moment in life. Allowing the Professor to say the word cell continuously was truly excellent.

@vayomi4536

9 ай бұрын

Lol 😆

@theresetunks9389

9 ай бұрын

Lego head I lost it 😂😂😂

@Sjcampb02

9 ай бұрын

“Lego head” is so dead on.

@keishacarter1259

9 ай бұрын

I can't wait til Lego head gets in the yard and that LEGO HEAD GETS STOMPED

@Lyddiebits

9 ай бұрын

Lego Head!!!! That is who he looks like, thank you!!!!

He should be put away to live in solitary confinement for the rest of his life with only a mattress, a desk and a couple textbooks. 😡 Sadly, no matter what his sentence is, his “son” will forever be damaged from this.💔

@cheriamour2429

9 ай бұрын

I agree wholeheartedly.

@PatricioINTP

9 ай бұрын

If I have to choose between that and the death penalty, I choose the latter.

This trial is not going very well for the defendant. He’s going to regret not taking the plea bargain. I’m glad he didn’t take it though, he deserves more than 2 years

Every time one of them furrows their eyebrows at video and looks down writing or investigating on laptop like it's a shock, I feel my carotid artery ready to blow. I was wondering what was taking them so long to admonish about all of them using electronics and that one taking pictures

I read an article that stated the son was only 8 years old when he was first placed in locked room. No wonder he got worse

I want to know more about the ankle monitor that his dad threatened him about wearing again. WTH. I hope this couple gets at least the same amount of jail time as they kept their son in.

@Lemmy827

9 ай бұрын

How would they get an ankle monitor? Do they sell them on Amazon?

@hopeg8031

9 ай бұрын

Me too! I haven’t heard anything else about that!

If they were malicious and somehow thought this was a good decision, they’d be tears hearing what kind of trauma they actually caused.

When did getting a snack become stealing ?my kids have been stealing from me ha all this time 😮

@bijanka

9 ай бұрын

Mine apparently steals from me every. single. day. after school.

@cindydewey9514

9 ай бұрын

Hahaha…. I think I am gonna go steal a snack from my refrigerator right now! These aren’t parents, they are prison guards!

@lisahere859

9 ай бұрын

Yeah stealing food. Wonder why? 😂

@67jujub

9 ай бұрын

Well crap my kids are grown adults & every time they come into my house they steal food out of the refrigerator. They have also stole laundry soap, toilet paper & paper towels. I guess my kids have been stealing most of their lives. It is a wonder they are all functioning adults that haven't been to jail.

@spacesigns4561

9 ай бұрын

@@67jujubFacts. My grown children do the same. And 1 is a cardiologist, 1 an Aeronautical engineer, and 1 currently in med school. And the engineer was a tough kid. ADHD and possible ODD. I got calls daily from his school. The dean, principal and I got to be very close. He was suspended the end of his senior year and couldn’t walk across the stage. He honestly was a terror. But I loved him. He was a mid 90s student. He still got his HS diploma and went on to college. He may have given me a lot of gray hairs, but he was never locked up in a box of a “room”. And he is a wonderful young man now with an amazing job.

My god, they just come into his “box” and start barking orders. No caring or kindness from them. It’s disgusting. 😢

Why is the wife allowed to use laptop? Why is she even there? She looks as evil as her husband.

@MaxZomboni

9 ай бұрын

The Sixth Amendment right to a fair trial guarantees the right of defendants to have family members and friends support them in court. Most courts encourage it and give them priority to be in the courtroom. As far as her having a laptop, everybody in the courtroom was using electronic devices. So I guess they don't have any rules against it.

Did anybody else see the defendants lawyer taking photos of the prosecutors computer while they sat behind them?

@lavender-haze13

9 ай бұрын

Timestamp please 🙏🏻

@jabellatv3240

9 ай бұрын

Wtf 🤬 he allowed to do that?!!

@emilymyers1095

9 ай бұрын

YWCe

This man deserves a horrible punishment of years in prison to remind him how evil he is. Disgusting 🤮

Whyyyyy is this so called “mother” allowed to sit in on this trial. Is she not being charged as well..

That poor kid… just listening to those ring cameras, my heart raced every time I heard that door unlocked… can’t imagine how he felt

@mikeandmals

8 ай бұрын

Same!!!!😢

I do think this child had behaviors that were difficult to deal with but the parents handled this all wrong. Had they been fearful of the safety of the other children, they could have tried to have an immediate assessment and possibly admit him to inpatient psychiatric treatment. It’s like he no longer fit the mold of a perfect child so they tried to hide him away. Such a tragic case. I hope he is able to be a successful adult.

@mariecleary

9 ай бұрын

There's no such thing as a problem child, only problem parents.

@knittingwith_me

9 ай бұрын

I have a belief that when you might think a child deserves love the least, that's when they need it the most. And violence leads to more violence

@ukguy

9 ай бұрын

His bad behaviour sounds like he was acting out to try to get attention... when a child doesn't feel loved they will often do anything, even bad things just to get some attention.

The arrogance of the father just getting up & walking around the court room to get a “better view / sound” is disgusting ! He is on trial (yes innocent until proven guilty) but the way he is lording it walking around is sickening ! Yes, this boy had behaviour problems but is there any wonder he did !!!!!!

@60toodles

9 ай бұрын

Did he though? We have only their word for that really. What they have told other people.

@blitzmom2674

9 ай бұрын

@@60toodles so far it has been the prosecution's case, so they are not likely to show evidence that the child was abusive or aggressive. Defense case doesn't start till Tuesday. (Though they had a couple of witnesses at the end of the day Friday who testified as to his behavior on vacation with other children - holding kids under water, and stealing knives. He was I believe 11 then. I am trying to keep an open mind till both sides have presented the case and defense. But it's looking more like the dad should have accepted that two year plea deal.

@mariecleary

9 ай бұрын

Have you not been watching it !! he's done it several times !!@@60toodles

He was treated like an unloved pet

I hate when an attorney try to discredit a witness who has years of studies and years of practices, wrote a lot of books and articles, and when the way he talked and explained was clear and so logical... I am seeing Psy and I personally thinks this one was excellent. As for the vicious question about being paid, why would those people take on their very busy schedule, sometimes even having to travel to the location Court is located, do it for free. If it was free, they would not do it because they are losing on their working times and incomes. It's not like the state can't afford it

@may_rah763

9 ай бұрын

Yes, all that time wasted on naming everything he did at the beginning. It was more in-depth than the States. Move on with the cross-exam.

@ElizabethGrindon

9 ай бұрын

The defense did a good job of making the psychiatrist look very good by going over all his accomplishments!

@cats.addict6457

9 ай бұрын

@@ElizabethGrindon the defense try whatever, nobody will forgive and minimise the torture this boy has endured and will traumatized with for his entire life... to me the defense does its job but should not even bother

@be4202

9 ай бұрын

This attorney is certainly making a boatload of $$$$$$ himself, he doesn’t work for no pay!

@cats.addict6457

9 ай бұрын

@@be4202 that's for sure

If these parents are found guilty and serve prison time, they will feel what it is like to be in a box and receive limited privileges.

@FrancescaLD

9 ай бұрын

They’d still get regular meals and access to a toilet.

@ananabi9910

9 ай бұрын

Their punishment should be the punishment they gave their son everyday of his life.

@astaraoneill9166

9 ай бұрын

And running water. And daylight. And time outside. And socializing. And reading material. Possibly a tablet. Phone privileges And a chair. And a bed off the floor.

This doctor rocks!!!! Thank you for helping this boy!

The only reason this attorney took this case is for the $$$$. There is no way they actually think they could win this. I'm actually glad he pled not guilty.... because we all got to witness who he truly is. And so do the people he will be sitting in a confined space for the next 30 years. Nothing justifies locking a small child like that away for years. Good parents ... desperate parents... will beg and plead for services, support, professional help if their child suffers from attachment or behaivoral conditions. And his wife sits behind him?? 🤢 I hope they throw the book at these people.

This is like the egg or the chicken theory ... Which came first? A. Because he was being unjustly mistreated and harshly punished, the child "acted out" his frustrations. B. He was harshly punished and mistreated because his behavior was out of control. As a retired teacher, I think "A".

@lisahere859

9 ай бұрын

The behaviour wasn't even dramatic. C'mon now.

@spacesigns4561

9 ай бұрын

As not a teacher, but with 25 years working in foster care, with many children with RAD, I also take A. RAD children need to WITH people to understand it’s ok to attach. Not be isolated. Any professional who knows anything about RAD knows that.

@mkm6458

9 ай бұрын

That's my question exactly