Put 10,000 racks on it. You’ll be fine. It’s one of the best actions in the world. You’re paying for the components and tolerances. Every single action is inspected before it goes out the door. If you’re just a weekend warrior the average person won’t see the difference. When you shoot thousands of rounds like I do in PRS, that action WILL NOT GO DOWN. When you break it in it will be super smooth. Try feeling an impact with 10,000 rounds through it. Also, for example the spring on that doesn’t need to be changed as much. I have a terminus and have 30,000 racks either the same firing pin spring. No issues. The action will be loose so it can cycle in harsh conditions. You made a good purchase. You won’t be disappointed.

@RobsReloading

2 ай бұрын

I made the purchase based on tons of positive reviews just like yours. I assume it will break in just didn’t expect it to need as much break in as it needs I guess. Shooting the rifle today for the first time.

@jush1604

2 ай бұрын

The looseness is normal like stated above, but that catch after the bolt lift is not. It would likely break in, but mine was not like that out of the box. Manufacturing errors happen, doesn’t matter the manufacturer.

I've got several custom actions including a couple Impact 737s. My impacts are my favorite. Both did take a little bit of breaking in and seem smoother once mounted and with a barrel installed. A couple reasons they're the number one action in prs is because they always feel the same regardless of conditions and cleaning regiment, they will run anything, each one is exactly the same, the availability of prefit barrels, and the fact Tate is one hell of a good guy and will do everything in his power to help his customers. Once you get a few rounds through it you will be pleased. Tate designed these for PRS/NRL, theyre supossed to be ran hard and fast. My Kelbly Prometheus and Atlas Tac actions are the smoothest. They blow everything out of the water as far as running the bolt goes. However there are only a couple barrel makers who will make prefits for them and those that do generally won't guarantee correct timing. The biggest thing with kelbly is that they won't reliably eject BR variant cases without a different bolt. If they did, I think they would be right up there with Impact, Defiance, and Lone Peak for popularity. Kelbly will do a 1 for 1 bolt swap for a bolt with a 700 style pluger/ejector to work better with BR cases for $10 to cover shipping.

Having it mounted in at stock makes a big difference in how it feels and they break in nicely. You made the right decision on which to action to purchase.

Outside of everything folks have mentioned in the comment section already, the real value of this action outside of its extremely accurate tolerances comes when you start running it in bad weather. Grit, sand, snow, water …I’ve seen even top-tier custom actions fail time and time again. I’ve been running Impact for eight years and I’ve never had a single failure, no matter what treacherous conditions I’ve put it in. You’ll be very happy with your purchase at the end of the day.

I’ve got one and like it quite a bit. I’ve never thought the lift was abnormally tough/heavy, and it does look like yours. They used to send two trigger hangers with it, so I’d check you’re using the one they recommend for the TT. Although I think I read they’re only sending one hanger now.

Thanks for being the first KZreadr to mention that about the Impact. So many Koolaid drinker in the PRS. Nothing special about the impact vs many other action. I had the same observations with mine and sod it after 6 months.

I can share with you, that mine was exactly the same. When you have it mounted up in a rifle and you actually cycle it, and have some rounds through it, it will “settle” in and smooth out. It’s a premium action, and I can share with you that I have Defiance, Falkor, Zermatt, Lone Peak, Kelblys and terminus, and they all feel a little stiff right out of the box. Give it a little time. This is normal. Don’t question yourself.

@RobsReloading

2 ай бұрын

I don’t disagree with this statement. I guess I just expected too much out of the box

I’ve got a defiance, terminus, impact, and Borden all with fairly similar round counts. No one has a clue what smooth is until they try a Borden. I put terminus in second.

@DanielReyes-hz1qk

2 ай бұрын

I want a Terminus Zeus next, been eyeing one for a long time

@rustynut1967

2 ай бұрын

Bordon 🤤 I'd love to have one. There's a reason for a year waiting list.

@roperboy87

2 ай бұрын

I’m with you had impact, definite, Curtis axiom, big horn , Borden and now Curtis valor my top choice Borden valor then impact. Only had a little feed issues with big horn

@michaelg1164

2 ай бұрын

You are 100% correct. I went from factory Rem 700, to Impact 737, now Borden Mountaineer. The Borden is like butter. I still own my Impact but am planning to run the Borden’s more.

I have a 737R action and I suggest you take the bolt apart and check the firing pin extension and amount of clearance it has in the bolt. Check sear for roughness. Check the firing pin spring to see if it is dragging in the bolt. Finally check the rear of the shroud and look for signs of rough machining. I just got mine back from my gunsmith and these were all problems he found after blueprinting my action. The rifle only had 100 rounds though it.

@rustynut1967

2 ай бұрын

This is very good advise. Bolt and firing pin assembly are probably more important than how the bolt feels running it.

I received my 737r about 2months ago and experienced the same feelings in the action. I’ll agree with everyone here and say run it, after about 250 rounds it feels smoother than my defiance with 2000 rounds in it. You made a great choice with impact, trust me

I think this is a testament to the Seekins action. 2k rounds might not be a lot to some, but that action has handled a lot of curve balls you have thrown at it. For example, going from the exotic 6BRA to the 7SAUM. I know you mentioned there have been feeding issues, but outside of the barrel - you have used the production components and the accuracy has been great.

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. So, the greater the action the more you will have a bad reaction. You did the research PrecisionRifleBlog and the impact was by far the no. 1 choice.

Welcome to custom actions Rob! It'll be fine. Drop that Impact in a chassis or stock and run it for a while. I felt the same way when I first got my Defiance action. It'll break in fine. It also feels MUCH better once barrelled and set in an action. I was coming from Tikkas so I was very concerned, but I couldn't be happier with it after regular use and I'm sure you will be too.

In my opinion. Impact and the Lone Peak Fuzion are more precision rifle “type” actions. They are the off-road actions that will take abuse with the elements. I got a Lone Peak Fuzion. Was disappointed at first, then I did some dry fire practice while running the bolt somewhat fast. I love it now! Much smoother. You get use to the “hitch” on the Impacts. It’s not noticeable running the bolt in a match.

I just got my first action and it's the same 737R. I experienced the same things when cycling the bolt. I think it's easy to assimilate the issues with the bolt, but it's tough to make a solid argument because there's no weight associated with action other than the action itself. I have a savage 93R17 and it's tough with the rifle weighing as little as it does

I wonder what impact the weight of the firing pin spring has on the bolt lift force needed?

I have a brand new 737r and was also disappointed considering all the hype that’s out there around it. Like you, I’m hoping it breaks in over time and I’m sure it will. I bought a Lone Peak Fuzion before the 737R that felt smoother and with less bolt lift. But my big complaint about the Fuzion was the fact that brass was hitting my scope. In my opinion you shouldn’t have to tune a $1,400 action out of the box, so I sold it.

Its hard to judge an action without having it dropped in a chassis/stock or putting rounds on it. Give it some time, im sure youll like it. Especially when you go to a match and see other actions choke.. As far as custom actions needing broken in, my opinion is it has to do with the coatings. The coatings wre fairly thick and as it wears thats when it should smooth out. Impacts are toleranced so that their not super tight, so that they can run in field conditions. All that said im interested to see what more you have to say. Just subscribed!

I have an impact nbk, it was the same way. It will break in. I think it’s the springs being stiff.

Any custom action over $900 should be smooth. Being loose half open doesn't matter, it's when fully forward that matters but depends on how it was made. What's probably more important than any of that is the bolt and firing pin assembly as far as good accuracy, repeatable ignition. I love my Stiller action, I would put it in the top 5 and priced better than others.

Idk anything about custom actions but I figured it would be better out of the box at that price. I bet you will be happier after it gets broken in. Hopefully it will smooth out.

I think when the whole thing is secure and stable in a fully assembled rifle, it'll feel much better. Then, after getting broken in from use, it'll get better still.

I have a 737 LH with a Diamond trigger. It does not have a stiff bolt lift and does not catch. It does have a little play in the slide but overall It's my favorite.

So you’re fighting yourself on the action. The action isn’t supposed to be racked in the manner you’re doing it. The reason the action seems stiff is you doing two motions. Hence when it’s laid in a receiver the action is “lighter”. The slop isn’t the best,but from what others have stated it’s intentional for reliability. Which is makes sense with various mag follower styles people will use and dust/debris that could start to gum up the action.

Did you look at bat machines new comp action? The hammerhead? I love mine

There definitely a great action , and yes there is some rattle. There was some bolts that had that catch. Contact Impact and it will probably be replaced. I have many actions. One of the newest is the Coupe De Grace. At almost half the price it's it a heck of a over built action.

Send it back that hang if you look at the bolt lugs the slide groves on the right side has a gap it was not cut out right, that is where the snag is, I have and 700 rifle that there no catch but the gap takes some of the lug locking space away. I thought that was to much gap. LOL LOL LOL the slop when the bolt is back I would not worry about it. When the bolt is locked and cocked how much pull back on the bolt less is better and would make it harder to lift the bolt. Your going to get into competition you don't need any hangs. Plus you need a lighter firing pin and stronger spring. That is called lock up speed. I have a 700 police the gap is small and no hanging up made in the late 90's there craftsmanship and then you have slop. I am no gunsmith and I can be wrong. I have never found a gun smith that I liked or trusted.

My defiance ruckus is the same out of the box But I’ve seen videos of people running stages running it like butter so I wouldn’t worry about it Definitely just new

This is the experience of most, I think. The PRS guys tend to live in a bit of an echo chamber. That said, people love Impact for the rugged reliability. I don’t believe it is the smoothest action on the market. But you’ll be happy with it in use.

Borden super 6 action , the best of the best

I have heard that the Terminus Zeus is the smoothest action on the market

@RobsReloading

2 ай бұрын

I had concerns with heavy bolt lift with 60 deg action and issues feeding due to 3 lug design and flat bolt face. I don’t know that those concerns were real but they impacted my decision.

@troyrussell1009

2 ай бұрын

I can't say smoothest since i haven't tried every action on the market, but I bought a terminous zues and now I own 3. They live up to their reputation

@joshwilson7008

2 ай бұрын

@@RobsReloadingI was worried about the 60 degree throw too. Bought a Zeus anyways and it’s by far my smoothest custom. I don’t have an impact, but from the looks of it, the Zeus was WAYYYY smoother and lighter straight out of the box. Joel is great too, super helpful with any questions

I, too, have a recently purchased Impact 737R that i am going to start building. I will be watching for future videos with interest. The biggest question I have right now is : Where do people get the most accurate and reliable prefit barrels?

@andrewmconrad

2 ай бұрын

I just competed in the mammoth sniper challenge and was in the squad with the eventual winners. He had a barrel made by straight jacket armory in Utah. 6GT cartridge. I'm going to go with a 6GT barrel from GCP rifle co in Venice Florida to support a friend. If you want straight prefit, Proof Research makes them

Your expectations are a bit off for what you purchased. The impacts are smooth cycling, yet reliable in less than favorable environments. The bolt lift can be adjusted by modifying the cocking spring, but you can loose reliability depending on primers used. The cocking action will appear lighter once it has 13-17lbs of barrel, chassis and scope attached to it as well. If you want silky smooth that functions when it’s clean, there are smoother benchrest actions out there. If you want a rugged and reliable action, the Impact 737 is a solid choice.

I've no experience with an impact action. I've had an American Rifle Company Coup de Grace for a year now, and at $900 its hard to imagine a $500+ increase being worth it. It runs every bit as nice as my defiance tenacity.

I think all actions need a little break in period. But my impacts are the smoothest and feed reliably imo.

I just built myself a dasher with a impact action. Just waiting for the license before i go pick it up. My friend told me the same as you do now. He urged my to rather buy the bat tr as it is much smoother and the bolt lift is much easier. I tried getting a tr but the weren't any available in South Africa, so i got the impact. I hope the reviews are right and i don't get buyers remorse

@RobsReloading

2 ай бұрын

I had read some stuff about bat and galling. That and the extra cost made that decision pretty easy for me.

@dawielubbe9443

2 ай бұрын

@@RobsReloading i think it can be true about there benchrest models but the tr model is nitride coated and should not gull

Surgeon actions rule

My brother in christ, when in hell has anyone attempted or expected any bolt to lift with 1 finger, much less out of a stock where you have even less leverage. This action will serve you fantastic, and yes your forum reading expectations were hightly unrealistic. Not in a bad way the action is smooth but curb your expectations especially on a new part and especially with forum posts. Run the bolt a few hundred times, properly and things will break in. Congrats on a baller action.

@RobsReloading

2 ай бұрын

This is why I wanted to make this video. The hype is pretty wild. The action has improved a lot since this video and those videos will follow!

@Z33Garage

2 ай бұрын

@@RobsReloading I purchased a Origin from Zermatt after I read a ton on actions. I was initially interested in the 737r but for the price tag I was not sure if it was better to purchase a Terminus action vs a 737. It almost felt that people boasted about the action as a way to validate their purchase. I own a Bergara HMR wilderness and when I got my Origin it felt rougher than the Bergara. Little by little it's getting butter smooth, but I also held my expectations. I do not think you will be disappointed in your choice, especially as you start using it and mating surface begin to smooth out even more.

Send it to Impact. Same thing was happening to my new one. It was hanging up at the top of the bolt lift Tate fixed it up for me. It should not drag like that at the top

For PRS there isnt a better action. After a couple hundred rounds it gets butter smooth ans ive yet to have a problem with my impact. Ive shot 3 barrels out and over 10,000 rounds through it. The only minor thing ill warn yoy on is sometimes triggertechs and impacts dont play well. At matches almost every trigger ive seen go down was red and most of them were mated to impacts.. do yourself a favor and get a bix tac sport pro x.

You won't regret your purchase. Run it.

Also, did your HIT have BR/Dasher specific mags?

@RobsReloading

2 ай бұрын

Of course. No chance without Specific mag

@DanielReyes-hz1qk

2 ай бұрын

Just double checking, lol. I don't think I've seen you try to run a BR or Dasher in the Havoc.

@RobsReloading

2 ай бұрын

@@DanielReyes-hz1qk I have a whole playlist with BRA in my HiT the video last week with the tuner was the BRA and the HIT.

@DanielReyes-hz1qk

2 ай бұрын

​@@RobsReloadingNice, I missed all those. I'll have to go back and watch. Not a caliber I'm specifically interested in so I never went looking. Should've showed up in my feed though, I'll have to look into that

Buy a melanite finished Bat. It will be what you want , out of the box.

Should’ve got a Borden or a bat

Time that trigger differently. Maybe make bolt lift easier.

Don’t worry once installed in a stock or chassis and breaks in it will become smoother and the grit will go away. I was shocked when I first received my custom action but after 200 or so rounds it’s really shines.

Having it I your hands in working it is just not a fair way to access it. THEY ARE THE BEST action period.

Did you take it all apart and clean/lubricate it? If so I would contact them and let them know your concerns. That's as bad as my savage

@RobsReloading

2 ай бұрын

I did.

Still no waffles 😮

Wonder if they cut it slightly out of spec just with the rush to get them out and produced. Maybe try lapping the bolt and lugs a bit to wear the coating and smooth it out. Easy cheap fix with some lapping compound. Hope you figure it out!

Harsh!! Guess I’ll keep building on my tikka platforms… 🤦🏼🤦🏼.

First look up how to lube a bolt on jim bordens youtube. 2nd if you wanna even smoother bolt lift buy a bix n andy tac sport pro x trigger. You bought the best tactical action on the market. Yes it will need some break in. You comparing a havak action to an impact is funny. Extraction on the havak is complete trash compared to an impact. Impact also has anti binding cuts and grooves in the raceways, the havak does not. The impact will run in any shitty conditions and that havak will not. Trust us you will never buy another action to replace an impact. If you need further help just shoot me an email.

This vid is a bit premature. It’s going to feel different in the gun, lubed and broke in. Give it time and you’ll love it.

@RobsReloading

2 ай бұрын

Many more videos will be made with this action. These however are my honest first impressions. People should know what it’s like right out of the box

If you think thats heavy definitely dont buy an accuracy international 😅

Send it to Alex Wheeler and let him fine tune it...u will be happy

Borden

You made your point. You judged the action with no practical shooting experience with it. Polish doesn't guarantee strength or anything else needed for a good action. Do you buy a new car on the basis of how it looks and how shiny it is....LOL Very shallow review, IMO.

@RobsReloading

2 ай бұрын

It’s not a review. It’s my impression of the action after unboxing it. A review will come after more use.

@johnday4765

2 ай бұрын

Point taken

Hey pencil arms, do some push-ups.

Yikes Rob a Tikka action runs better. Looks like you got a paper weight.

There is no pleasing folks with more money than brains.