Illidan VS Arthas Fight - Warcraft III The Frozen Throne Ending #Warcraft3Reforged #Warcraft 3
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@Emsarrev4 жыл бұрын
What's with the stiff walk at the start? That's not Arthas, that's Arthritis.
@nightmelody777hiatus2
4 жыл бұрын
XD
@julieannono8967
4 жыл бұрын
you sir, made my day
@Roamingfirebat
4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@TorxyElboo
4 жыл бұрын
It's cold outside
@raptormage2209
4 жыл бұрын
He walks like he just shoved a broom up his ass
@Veloziraptor1113 жыл бұрын
Imagine hearing that after almost 20 years your favorite game was going to get remade. Imagine knowing that Arthas vs Illidan was originally supposed to be a full-blown cinematic that wasn't made due to time and budget constraints. Imagine hoping that after all those years, Blizzard, widely known for the amazing quality of their cinematics, would do this scene justice, letting us see Arthas vs Illidan in all its cinematic glory. Imagine then playing the game and seeing this as the result of all that anticipation.
@trischkali700
3 жыл бұрын
Therapist: What is causing your deep feelings of sadness and disappointment? Me:
@stoheha
2 жыл бұрын
I have known this sad fact as well, and I have made sure to mention it in any video that even has a blip of this scene. Thank you for helping spread the good, but sad word.
@D3d23
2 жыл бұрын
I know it is disappointing.
@plus_sign
2 жыл бұрын
this is way better than the other version lol
@thefakebriskeh
2 жыл бұрын
@@plus_sign not even close
@VeraldoAncodini4 жыл бұрын
"Look how they massacred my boy." RIP Warcraft III, you'll be forever in our hearts.
@tuanang7889
4 жыл бұрын
glad i still had my pirated version.
@TheREALExposingtheJoyofS-px3ri
4 жыл бұрын
@@tuanang7889 Lucky...
@raudello3666
4 жыл бұрын
I'll never be able to play the good version of Warcraft III 😭😭😭😭
@VeraldoAncodini
4 жыл бұрын
@@raudello3666 You can sail the high seas.
@VeraldoAncodini
2 жыл бұрын
@Miguel Santos That doesn't fix the myriad of other issues the Refunded version has.
@derekbush62394 жыл бұрын
It's horrifying that Raid: Shadow Legends has better CGI than an official cutscene from a multi-billion dollar mega-company like Blizzard.
@onlyRuted
4 жыл бұрын
Yeap! 1000%
@peoplearegood6221
4 жыл бұрын
Dude. This game is from over a decade ago...
@derekbush6239
4 жыл бұрын
@@peoplearegood6221 Yes, and this cutscene is less than 6 months old, so that point is completely invalid. This was created within the past year, it is not the same cutscene as from 2003. It's just laziness, like the rest of Reforged.
@bryton1920
4 жыл бұрын
@@derekbush6239 Just so you're aware, Blizzard didn't make this cutscene.
@derekbush6239
4 жыл бұрын
@@bryton1920 They still at the very least commissioned it, approved it, and put their name on it, before including it in their IP. So they thought this was acceptable work.
@BritishTeaFGC4 жыл бұрын
The ending of the cutscene should have been a dude in the bath playing with his Arthas and Illidan action figures. It would make the stiff animations believable at least.
@flufychickens
4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@TeriiTeri
4 жыл бұрын
bruh lmao
@aktafool
4 жыл бұрын
LMAO my favorite comment. Thank you.
@SweetPuppyDogo
4 жыл бұрын
underrated comment!
@Cross8ow
4 жыл бұрын
:D :D :D :D lol
@Vaasth4 жыл бұрын
there is zero tension in this cinematic, also it doesnt make any sense, illidan transforms into demon form to jump directly onto the blade? wtf?!?
@edoardotosoni3190
4 жыл бұрын
Right, it makes no sense, he goes against the sword, also why is so slow and strage?! This fight is awful.
@mathy9408
4 жыл бұрын
I mean, maybe it is something about Arthas that makes every rival an idiot. Sylvanas guitar-slide into him too.
@winniethepooh4141
4 жыл бұрын
original war3 story never make any sense
@Fuchsia_tude
4 жыл бұрын
Hey at least it's true to the original cinematic in that way
@realname8362
4 жыл бұрын
this is pretty much exactly what happened in the original cutscene though?
@gc25124 жыл бұрын
quote: "is this an out of season april fools joke?"
@LagoonKnight
3 жыл бұрын
"Don't you have Phones" #facepalm
@am_zeusy4 жыл бұрын
Warcraft: Shadow Legends
@sapprine4534
4 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA
@kevin-7091
4 жыл бұрын
I'm dead 🤣🤣
@benjamin7670
3 жыл бұрын
Let's play Warcraft: Shadow Leegends. Start now for $30
@johnroyce8650
3 жыл бұрын
Everything is sponsored by RAID: Shadow Legends.
@cherenmertens
2 жыл бұрын
Worse. Raid shadow legends ads are better animated than this
@joanabartolomeu47854 жыл бұрын
It’s not just the music missing. It’s the flow of the fight that is weird
@christianscott1229
4 жыл бұрын
No Kidding we expected more out of this 😕
@stefanstefanovic3814
4 жыл бұрын
I tried to edit it to look better. I added music and i timed music very good but its still weird and boring 😔.
@foresightfox1256
4 жыл бұрын
Tbh there is nothing in it. Bad Sound, stiff animations, lame fighting. Those 2 used to be super powerful and Illidan just gets 2 hitted. Also the smile from Arthas at the start, that is horrible he doesn't look like a badass, more like a drug addicted rapist.
@entity9094
2 жыл бұрын
Power of Sargearas (since he made the legion) against the power of The Jailer (since he made the "The Lich King" role, the Crown of Domination, Frostmourne, which made the Scourge.). You'd have thought the battle flow wouldn't be as weird.
@silver2zilver
Жыл бұрын
I was mad that Illidan got hit in the first one, I thought he disengaged to go defensive and couldnt defend which always was weird to me. This one does feel like it's missing a lot of beats.
@tomasplanicka25394 жыл бұрын
I guess Frostmourne has eaten soul of this cinematic, because there is none.
@JansonTR
4 жыл бұрын
Dam son
@yurionedge2199
4 жыл бұрын
Good one!
@niemand9143
4 жыл бұрын
Tomáš Plánička he ist not eating ilidans soul ilidan is alaiv Noob
@altide8784
4 жыл бұрын
The soul of warcraft died after WC3
@igor_pavlovich
3 жыл бұрын
i guess Frostmourne has eaten alot, cause it looks thicc in this cinematic
@Audio0174 жыл бұрын
Who exactly is liking this? Rule 34 artists do a better job for free.
@VangaurdTDS
3 жыл бұрын
People who don't feel the need to make their entire identity about hating a game company,
@ET-tt5nc
3 жыл бұрын
@@VangaurdTDS Tasteless Shiteaters like that trash cinematic and it seems you're one of them.
@culturageekyartesmarciales1169
3 жыл бұрын
@@ET-tt5nc shut the hell up , its was the point of this cutscene, been more simple than the others like in theoriginal version, research a little
@grimanima3 жыл бұрын
I love how unwieldy their weapons are, to the point that even the animators struggled to make that fight look good xD
@Bulletproof_Trump
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, both of them seem like they are struggling just to hold them, let alone put power into their strikes.
@rodnycito4 жыл бұрын
The only "reforged" cinematic, and it looks like an indie low budget video. Damn blizzard you used to put effort in your games
@bernhartschmieder9401
4 жыл бұрын
People who bought the pre-sale are to blame. They have their money already, why would they care to put effort into it?
@heroicxidiot
4 жыл бұрын
Reforged wasn't even made by blizzard. They outsourced it.
@LuckyPed10
4 жыл бұрын
this is like a freebie tho, they said they don't plan on reforging any of the cinamatics and I was not expecting them to do this at all either. so I can't complain for one bonus reforged cinematic they gave us outside of what they told us when I pre-purchased the game.
@231swift
4 жыл бұрын
@@heroicxidiot wheres the proof? and what company?
@heroicxidiot
4 жыл бұрын
@@231swift google "warcraft 3 reforged outsourced" and you'll find some articles. Not only that, Lemon Sky, the Malaysian game dev company outright state that they worked on Reforged
@Lilliade4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a fan-made
@tessatessa3894
4 жыл бұрын
Chinese outsource.
@juanyang838
4 жыл бұрын
@@tessatessa3894 Acceptable Reason.
@mendezclaroswillydaniel1126
4 жыл бұрын
True
@user-zr7bf9cd5e
4 жыл бұрын
I think fans can make it much better than
@leman7648
4 жыл бұрын
much worse
@CyclonSilver4 жыл бұрын
Illidan: "turns into his demon form" Arthas: Ha! Perfect. I'll just wait for him to fly at me and... Illidan: "starts throwing green meteors" Arthas: ... f***.
@motherlyfather9871
4 жыл бұрын
*cannot attack air units*
@dimitriskemerlis4983
4 жыл бұрын
Death grip lol
@michaelwrynn4002
4 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@BFEARLESS009
4 жыл бұрын
Death coil and death animated gargoyls back :))))))))) lol
@lenny50234 жыл бұрын
Me: Mom, can we get Warcraft 3? Mom: No we have Warcraft 3 at home. Warcraft 3 at home:
@user-ue2yj9vv3b4 жыл бұрын
Even if the two heroes fought on HOTS, they would be more energetic than this.
@RunehearthCL
4 жыл бұрын
And Arthas also wins there lol
@c1borgen
4 жыл бұрын
Runehearth are you sure?
@bluecheese7366
4 жыл бұрын
and I also, 시공 조아.
@Frazzledotd
4 жыл бұрын
The hots cinematics are probably the most blizz thing in recent years and they've all but given up on the game
@vld7759
4 жыл бұрын
@@Frazzledotd As much as bfa sucked the trailer was great
@cammykins58134 жыл бұрын
It honestly looks like some KZread channel made it, that’s how off the models look.
@DrRhyhm
4 жыл бұрын
The models are great, the animation sucks.
@nonusbusinissus5632
4 жыл бұрын
Does it not look like plastic figurines animated? like 1:13 That entire scene somehow looks like some sort of stop motion animation. The entire thing is so far in the frikin uncanny valley for me that its ridiculous. This is not regular 3d animation for sure, they somehow cut down the time on making it and this was the end result, and frankly id prefer the frikin original w3 shait over this cringe.
@icenice9468
4 жыл бұрын
Agree
@Galastin
4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Blizz didn't make this. I think they outsourced a ton of the art work.
@cammykins5813
4 жыл бұрын
@@randomnamechannel9813 I don't mean anything towards him, but IkEdit makes much better videos with a DECIMAL of what Blizzard has and it's as good or way better than this.
@Flaeren2 жыл бұрын
they somehow managed to make this iconic fight look even more underwhelming than it was in warcraft 3, good job blizz.
@nickcarafa5654 жыл бұрын
Wow wonderful! The most beautiful school project i've seen in a while! I'm sure you will get an A, Timmy! ... Wait, what you mean it's a blizzard cinematic?
@sanzharzaitenov5268
3 жыл бұрын
Beter than their first version
@Sunless1337
2 жыл бұрын
@@sanzharzaitenov5268 Not when considering the year produced, and the facial animations were worse than some of the old cinematics, lol. Contextually a freaking terrible cinematic.
@EfnysYersina4 жыл бұрын
This looks like a stop motion project with action figures made by a fan.
@GrandPaladinTyrux
4 жыл бұрын
There's a fan remake of this cutscene that's literally higher quality using WoW models.
@citramate3633
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like a good percentage of us thought the exact same thing only about 20 seconds in.
@darykeng
4 жыл бұрын
Scratch that, actual fan would make 110% better
@Qaosbringer
4 жыл бұрын
@@darykeng this is not reforged cinematic, this is a ingame made cinematic, EXACTLY LIKE THE ORIGINAL COMBAT SCENE. And the only "reforged" cinematic is the Warcraft 3 Trailer / Intro cinematic. At least try to be not stupid.
@darykeng
4 жыл бұрын
@@Qaosbringer and? How is this changing statement that fan would make this 17 yo scene better?
@JuKe64 жыл бұрын
Warcraft III: Refunded
@SelfProclaimedEmperor
4 жыл бұрын
You have been replaced by 20 Chinese players.
@-Narsilion-4 жыл бұрын
I always wanted a proper Arthas vs Illidan cinematic. Never thought the original one could have been better than a reforged cinematic which made after 20 years of the original one.
@culturageekyartesmarciales1169
3 жыл бұрын
How is it better exactly
@stabbystab8363
2 жыл бұрын
@@culturageekyartesmarciales1169 The old one is better in every single conceivable way
@silver2zilver
Жыл бұрын
The original was a 30 second battle, which you would think is more normal since it's a 1 shot kill situation, but in this for some reason they prolonged it so illidan can growl and then use his HANDS in a sword fight... i... don't understand
@silver2zilver
Жыл бұрын
@@culturageekyartesmarciales1169 The first strike by arthas to Illidan shows Illidan and Arthas having different stances. This one adds weird "suspense" things like arthas dropping his weapon (with 2 hands on his weapon? Disarmed?) and then illidan gets mad and rages but then uses HANDS in a blade fight makes NO sense.
@Kspice9000
Жыл бұрын
@silver2zilver that and arthas' strikes are so damn slow. And he's supposed to be inhumanely strong and fast in this scene. Him and Illidan should've basically has a dbz/the flash style of charge.
@ellobodehielo4 жыл бұрын
So you're telling me the WOW intro looked like it did and 15 years later, THIS is the best they had?
@ataerus30664 жыл бұрын
Well, this certainly makes me feel better about not preordering 😂
@Lunamagpie33388
4 жыл бұрын
...I keep telling myself my meat wagon was worth it
@brettyacyshen93524 жыл бұрын
Why such stiff movements? The sound effects of their weapons colliding with one another doesn't match with their fighting it feels like.
@Avast3
4 жыл бұрын
cuz it's cold
@user-ki4to4vh8d
4 жыл бұрын
Why Illidan don't cutting him 1:00 and let him go ???
@user-ki4to4vh8d
4 жыл бұрын
Illidan could not lose to Arthas, even without a change
@methical__
4 жыл бұрын
Those weapons feel like they have no weight. There is literally no exaggeration on that movement to swing the sword.
@mmtt1427
4 жыл бұрын
its rushed
@PaladinKhoronis3 жыл бұрын
The fight is actually much better when watched at 1.25 speed. It gets more dynamic.
@aaronthestuffguy3485
2 жыл бұрын
Holy hell it does!
@ScottMccain117
2 жыл бұрын
Lol genius
@TGIFrank
2 жыл бұрын
Well spotted. You shaved a quarter off the runtime. As long as we're min/maxing, bump it up to 1.5. Since they didn't bother composing a score or recording any dialogue they look like they're actually strong enough to wield their respective weapons and the grunting sounds aren't too cartoony.
@Sp1Tz_2nd
2 жыл бұрын
smart guy
@artemiymoiseev4 жыл бұрын
That anime flight in the end though, I can't take it.
@niilokin72804 жыл бұрын
Hearing Arthas running to get his sword cracks me up for some reason.
@deblud4 жыл бұрын
There is no weight to any action, so it looks like they are fighting in space or underwater , what a really bad animation geez
@SporkyMcFly
4 жыл бұрын
Looks 10 000 times better than the original to me.
@Cross8ow
4 жыл бұрын
@@SporkyMcFly Check graphic performance in 2002 vs 2020 my friend than say something about "old animation being bad". Also old cutscene is 50seconds long not 2 minutes what makes it stupidly slow.
@moodyhd3449
4 жыл бұрын
They couldn't have even had Illidan say "YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!" at the beginning?
@OilFreeFeathers4 жыл бұрын
[smiles in smug anime face]
@Thaumaturge22514 жыл бұрын
They really had a chance to make an amazing fight here that we could of only dreamed in the modified for time one in the original, but we got this instead.
@frozengrip26094 жыл бұрын
Quite literally 2 old men fight over the recliner.
@KapitanPazur1
4 жыл бұрын
Its like a symbolism for crying W3 fanboys over this cinematic lmao
@failegion7828
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair this is quite an atrocious example where the actual game its being remastered from has a better cinematic cutscene... It's just another game in the pile of disappoints recently released. Through to even fairer, they honestly should have seen this coming with Activision in the mix and only have their own sleds to blame for buying trash.
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi37234 жыл бұрын
HM........looks far to plastic,
@RussianGamerTeam
4 жыл бұрын
Lego Ninjago final fight, lmao
@Khajar
4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Just my thought! Looks like some kid playing with his action figures.
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
4 жыл бұрын
@@Khajar yeah that was also what I was thinking when I first saw it,
@Johnx3m
4 жыл бұрын
@@RussianGamerTeam That was better lmao
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
4 жыл бұрын
@@Johnx3m What was?
@hangovername4 жыл бұрын
This is a perfect representation of what Reforged is all about; fall way short of what was promised by gutting everything that people loved and throw some bizarre HD skins on it. I watched the original and it was so much more believable (despite the characters barely having hands) because they actually moved like they didn't want to get cut by the other guy
@NawiTheCore4 жыл бұрын
You can tell by the lack of hair physics in Arthas' hair that Blizzard dropped the ball with this version.
@raxypalamank4 жыл бұрын
Feels weird
@ironic4910
4 жыл бұрын
Does it feel like watching rocks fight?! Or does it feel like they are made out of wood and not flesh!
@pootisbird2164
4 жыл бұрын
@@ironic4910 My bet is that it's because the cutscene is in engine.
@mba6031
4 жыл бұрын
@@ironic4910 both dude, both
@DrRhyhm
4 жыл бұрын
Because it's missing the music. Imagine Darth Maul and ObiWan's fight without Dual of Fates
@CsStoker
4 жыл бұрын
I know, there's something really odd about it. The older one felt a lot more dinamic
@LoGiStiKu4 жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight. Illidan disarms Arthas, who's a step in front of him, with Arthas throwing his hands up in the air. Yet Arthas somehow makes it back to his sword with Illidan in tow. Now please make me believe ILLIDAN STORMRAGE, a NIGHT ELF DEMON with WINGS AND HOOVES is SLOWER than a VERY LOW ON POWER (remember the campaign!) DEATH KNIGHT that needed to both DO A 180 AND RUN AND DO ANOTHER 180 BACK TO HIS OPPONENT. Excuse me what?
@bernhartschmieder9401
4 жыл бұрын
There is simply no logic in the cinematic, you wont find one second of it that has actual thought put into it.
@Mike-ds4ht
4 жыл бұрын
Arthas was obv. using his E (Frozen Tempest). Illidan's useless against that, even with the speed boost Metamorphosis gets at 20. Plus the Illidan player was a noob. Overusing Dive limited his DPS while he only used one Sweeping Strike to engage. Missed the Evasion on Arthas' final AA. Scrub.
@Mithguar
4 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-ds4ht This isn't Hots. It was Warcraft 3. Both Illidan and Arthas had no such abilities.
@DrRhyhm
4 жыл бұрын
He wasnt low on power if you remember the Lich King gave his remaining powers to him to at the start of the mission, he goes back to lvl 10.
@xx-cs1yj
4 жыл бұрын
@@Mithguar r/whoooosh
@miketv36574 жыл бұрын
More than 20 years ago, Final Fantasy VIII made better cinematic scenes !
@sanzharzaitenov5268
3 жыл бұрын
Warcraft 3 openings are epic
@azureorc30044 жыл бұрын
Illidan:
@Fire28SA4 жыл бұрын
How did they make this worse than the original? At least that one still holds up
@Luirru55
4 жыл бұрын
Because they are looking for short money
@Carpatouille
4 жыл бұрын
The original was kinda bad too tbh
@lazarus8453
4 жыл бұрын
the orginal actualy sucks
@Warlundrie
4 жыл бұрын
@@lazarus8453 I agree with this.... but that is no excuse for this damn cinematic, which, apart from the graphic is at least as bad.....
@Hirotoro4692
4 жыл бұрын
@@lazarus8453 *less
@ArchivumAzeroth4 жыл бұрын
Better cinematic than N'zoth's death
@pain1373
4 жыл бұрын
Is when you expect more.
@kungfuvoodoo9889
4 жыл бұрын
Not a very high bar set there
@truefalcon6884
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly actually going to disagree with that... at least that looked somewhat decent, even if it was anticlimactic
@DahnsHeart
4 жыл бұрын
When Blizzard's cinematic is so bad you need to compare it to Blizzard's cinematic
@XeroMaverick3 жыл бұрын
It amuses me that the slow-mo section where Arthas dodges Illidans attack looks the same speed as the rest of the fight.
@ArthA1224 жыл бұрын
What the actual F ?! Some fanmade cinetmatic are more dynamic and polished than this thing ! It's insane to see that Blizzard produced that..
@BingBangPoe4 жыл бұрын
The animation for this looks pretty clumsy, unpolished. Kinda like those amateur Garry's Mod animations, but worse.
@JTHMRulez1
4 жыл бұрын
Why are you everywhere?!
@ENGRtube
4 жыл бұрын
For real, this looks fan made instead of a multi BILLION dollar companies effort...
@juanyang838
4 жыл бұрын
Even some random TF2 SFMs are better than this.
@alformodoritos2076
4 жыл бұрын
Looks like one of those terribly bad Chinese mobile game ad.
@BingBangPoe
4 жыл бұрын
@@JTHMRulez1 Am I? :O
@Chronochrome4 жыл бұрын
The movements are so stiff.
@octogen12824 жыл бұрын
There is exactly one thing that I like in this: Illidan moving very slightly after his defeat. Great way to foreshadow that he will still be alive and kicking in WoW. The original made it look like he was 100% dead due to low poly count (and possibly because there were no plans to bring him back yet).
@masterpanos19904 жыл бұрын
Almost heaven, West Virginia....
@Michiho.4 жыл бұрын
This is not Blizzard Quality at all!!! Its outsourced animation again?!
@almas4663
4 жыл бұрын
It's perfect! Stop blindfully hate everything! That was a perfect way to show the fight
@ZeratKJ
4 жыл бұрын
again ? different animation was outsourced or the Diablo immortal is on your mind ?
@JetrekkerteJ
4 жыл бұрын
@@almas4663 lol blind ?
@almas4663
4 жыл бұрын
@@JetrekkerteJ You knew what this is gonna be at Blizzcon 2019,it's amazing
@BubblepunkAD
4 жыл бұрын
The Models were outsorced
@DrRhyhm4 жыл бұрын
Missing music and lack of good editing, the fight sits, there is no point to make it longer if you cannot fill it with actual immersive content.
@dexterwillmon3 жыл бұрын
Man, can you imagine if this cinematic was actually good?
@cliffburton63254 жыл бұрын
I like how Arthas cut right through Illidan, but when Turalion tried to slay Illidan in the legion cinematic he just grabbed the blade like it was barely anything. Goes to show what kinda power Arthas had. And he wasn't even the true lich king yet at this time, I believe the open gate area that Arthas proceeded to is where he gets the helm.
@Raumes513
2 жыл бұрын
Yea I think you’re right if I remember correctly illidan was there for the soul purpose to not allow arthas to reach the crown
@cliffburton6325
2 жыл бұрын
@@Raumes513 Yes that's right. Didn't go so well for poor Illidan lol
@ignacystefanczyk36354 жыл бұрын
This looks so bad omg
@bernhartschmieder94014 жыл бұрын
It feels made by some asian company...
@naidenhristov95
4 жыл бұрын
maybe cuz its 15-20 years old thing
@olegshtolc7245
4 жыл бұрын
It kinda was. Reforged was outsourced to some Malaysian company
@olegshtolc7245
4 жыл бұрын
Bernhart Schmieder all the graphics was made by a company named lemon sky . They are asians. So blizzard have put a really little effort in this game
@naidenhristov95
4 жыл бұрын
@Thor dude its REFIRGED. have you played warcraft 3? from 2002? the idea of reforge to make the game little bit better looking. mostly better textures. same old game but just little better, not entirely new game. thats the idea. and this cinematic is the same from 2002 but reforged. the same old cinematic. you guys look like fking idiots
@Masterwar15
4 жыл бұрын
@@naidenhristov95 This cutscene alone is brand new, with new models and animations, it's nothing like the original.
@arthursebastiany65624 жыл бұрын
ONE OF THE BEST CINEMATICS BLIZZARD HAS EVER MADE oh wait
@nikushim6665 Жыл бұрын
They retconned the hell out of this fight, in the original Illidan getting his ass handed to him the entire 30 second fight, he was on his back after the first swing.
@AmericanEulogy6664 жыл бұрын
It's like anime fight, without music with short breaks every few seconds and then you realize they swung their weapons maybe five times.
@osrictemper4225
4 жыл бұрын
It miss at least 4 minutes tacitcs explanation from protagonist side :p
@leonardoromero3859
2 жыл бұрын
@@osrictemper4225 Exactly, and it is also missing when the protagonist and the villain stare at each other for an hour
@osrictemper4225
2 жыл бұрын
@@leonardoromero3859 And some flashbacks! At least 2 episodes long ;)
@denvergronckle27674 жыл бұрын
This feels like those cinematics for mobile games. I guess that isn't surprising, they live for the Chinese market now.
@LiveLoLearn2 жыл бұрын
They move like the figurines I'd control with my hands when I was a little kid.
@johnmihelis16994 жыл бұрын
How can something look so good yet so bad at the same time? As stills, the models look beautiful. As an animation, this looks like some vfx college student's project
@DBZ-Mousa4 жыл бұрын
Arthas: It's over Illidan! I have the low ground!
@michaelh555
4 жыл бұрын
Purely the best comment here!
@yurionedge2199
4 жыл бұрын
Illidan: You underestimate my power!
@BikeOnTheHighway4 жыл бұрын
Ok so let us all be reminded that this in done in 2020....i repeat 2020 .... looks like 2003 at best :(
@rcblazer
4 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, the original version of this cinematic came out in 2003, and it's way better!
@GraveUypo
4 жыл бұрын
@@rcblazer since i didn't remember at all what it was like, i went to watch that and i find the rumors greatly exaggerated. come on, this is bad but the old one is like 15 second long, nothing happens and it has bad camerawork and terrible original war3 graphics. i thought it was an actual cinematic from the way people are talking about it.
@holyassassin54673 жыл бұрын
so why wernt the rest of the cut scenes of this quality
@Sharpypus4 жыл бұрын
This is what my €40 went towards, I have literally helped fund the death and reforge of my first Blizzard game... At least it seems that they let their intern film students work on their first project by animating this video for us. It's a nice touch they didn't add any battle music as well - really lets the awkwardness flow that much better.
@RunehearthCL4 жыл бұрын
Even machinimas have less stiff animations, never again outsource your games
@emrahagca994 жыл бұрын
So this is what we got after 17 years??? The game that put Blizzard on the map and this is the remastered cinematic of it..... Epic Fail.. Grin..
@Masterwar15
4 жыл бұрын
That was Starcraft though.
@bernhartschmieder9401
4 жыл бұрын
Everything is a fail with Blizzard these days.
@AsprosOfAzeroth
4 жыл бұрын
@@Masterwar15 Starcraft; Diablo all very famous game franchises. But we all know who is the *Golden Goose* of the family, and Warcraft 3 is the game that started it!
@user-ki4to4vh8d
4 жыл бұрын
Blizzard's humiliated Illidan . . .
@professionalcommentstealer52714 жыл бұрын
I've waited years for the reforged game to come out only to see this?
@Gio_Medici4 жыл бұрын
where did the music go?
@Frozenmenss14 жыл бұрын
Something is missing - the music?
@azraelgorge9203
4 жыл бұрын
Feels better without it tbh.
@farseer2043
4 жыл бұрын
The original cutscene didn't have music either.
@SoundtracksandMore
4 жыл бұрын
@@farseer2043 Yes it did.
@DrRhyhm
4 жыл бұрын
@@farseer2043 It did have.
@almas4663
4 жыл бұрын
This scene is so epic that it don't need music at all. It will only ruin the atmosphere.
@animegx454 жыл бұрын
The lack of music really murdered the tension. It added a lot to the original fight, even though it was shorter and not as well animated. You still got sucked into that fight, and it didn't feel like they were running around with 2 ton weights either.
@austinprince21093 жыл бұрын
Had the animations not been so stuff this would look fantastic
@blessedmususu1911 Жыл бұрын
Up to now every time I heard that the original was better my response was... "Yah. I din't like reforged too." But now that I've re-watched the old fight I'm actually amazed by how it really is better. 😂
@TheNewGuy214 жыл бұрын
I feel embarrassed for people who bought this. Yikes.
@Luirru55
4 жыл бұрын
I feel embarrassed for having every liked warcraft
@raptormage2209
4 жыл бұрын
@@Luirru55 Nah man, warcraft 3 was awesome. but reforged... well...
@NostalgicMem0ries
4 жыл бұрын
im not sure if i will download it when it will be cracked lol, says much
@Lichelf4 жыл бұрын
The animations are slow and have no weight behind them, so it feels like 2 action figures fighting in slow motion. The increased length of the fight also highlights how much it needed some dialogue. It feels uncharacteristic for both Arthas and Illidan to be so quiet during a fight.
@Lichelf
4 жыл бұрын
Watching it at 1.25 speed actually improves it a lot. The characters are faster so it feels more like a real fight. And while there still isn't any dialogue, it atleast reduces the length of the awkward pauses.
@user-ki4to4vh8d
4 жыл бұрын
Why Illidan don't cutting him 1:00 and let him go ???
@osrictemper4225
4 жыл бұрын
@@Lichelf Your comment made me realise that i watched it at 1.5 speed at first and it still felt like eternity ;P
@raptormage2209
4 жыл бұрын
aparently in the novel Illidan even told arthas something like : ''Fool, i have trained with these warglaves for thousands of years. how long did you train with your precious sword ?'' or something along those lines. imagine a scene where illidan flies into the air and hovers while he boasts about his training like '' oh yea, i have trained so haarrd''
@allentayoto73873 жыл бұрын
every time I remember that these two used to be respected heroes that became like this. It makes me wonder what kind of villain the warden could've been.
@Strider302 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of going to work in the Winter. Showing up in ragged warm clothes because you have never needed to use the warm clothes because you lived in warm climates for a good chunk of your life.
@Zinemay4 жыл бұрын
Okay, Blizzard. I thought Its impossible, but You did it! You killed my favourite game!
@ungabungacaveman90214 жыл бұрын
eh, looks fan made. i was really expecting more from blizz.
@CEnow4 жыл бұрын
This cinematic seriously gave me physical pain! How is this even possible?
@MrGlenbw4 жыл бұрын
Even compared to Blizzard's weaker efforts, the entire execution of this 'reforged' cutscene feels shockingly sloppy, weightless and tension-lite.
@kirrik88004 жыл бұрын
It feels like it was unironically made by an indie company. I've seen better remakes of this fight from fans on youtube...*much* better remakes
@MetalGearissolid
4 жыл бұрын
Share them, then.
@MarkTheCat
4 жыл бұрын
Thor but it is published by Blizzard brand so audience expects no less than a classic Blizzard level of cinematography. Guess Blizzard isn’t equal quality anymore.
@nitramocim42944 жыл бұрын
It hurts so much to see this again.
@23ranger524 жыл бұрын
Do you know have bgm ?
@RRRanTV4 жыл бұрын
As an asian, I have to agree: Give us the old Blizzard with their high quality products, I dont want to see shitty anime-fights with plot-holes big enough for Sargaera's sword to punch through.
@TheREALExposingtheJoyofS-px3ri
4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah... Totally agree, as a Native American... Which is pretty much an off-shoot of being an Asian, I guess? lol.
@heftymagic4814
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheREALExposingtheJoyofS-px3ri whät
@TheREALExposingtheJoyofS-px3ri
4 жыл бұрын
@@heftymagic4814 /smh... lol. Native Americans originally come from Asia... You're not very big into genealogy are you?
@TheMoonman4
3 жыл бұрын
What does you being Asian have yo do with anything
@nerko54944 жыл бұрын
looks worse than the original, lmao.
@ThomasWarhammer
4 жыл бұрын
No. It doesn't.
@thinhvo3893
4 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasWarhammer really does. At least as the original look smooth in its movement. This look so clunky.
@adiveler
4 жыл бұрын
TBH in the original, they barely did anything in the fight: both do long swords friction, Illidan do a backflip, Arthas do a swing, and it's over.
@Titi-pu2hl
4 жыл бұрын
@@adiveler at least it wasn't clunky
@adiveler
4 жыл бұрын
@@Titi-pu2hl Well... it's actually was even clunkier since they used the in-game engine for that cut-scene, which wasn't great for an elaborate close-up fight.
@PavellGameChannel4 жыл бұрын
It was very disappointed me. So wooden animation and so chinese style and whole cinematic is stupid. Old cinematic from 2003 is much better
@MaxChannelSavin
4 жыл бұрын
Выглядит реально как-то трешово
@Ordo1980
4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same. Even the old one was quite cheap. But at least there they clearly tried to do the best with that equipment.
@Стенька_Пианист
4 жыл бұрын
PavellGameChannel, hello there! Знал, что заглянешь… Жду "новое" бомбление по кампаниям!
@noobley63994 жыл бұрын
They give their Mary sue sylvannas 3 good cinematics but the most relevant 1v1 in warcraft a sfm
@696Ghost6964 жыл бұрын
2018: Do you guys have no phones? 2020: Do you guys have no sense of humor?
@arlekinpalatynasieciecha93464 жыл бұрын
Where is the music from orginal Warcraft 3?!
@pootisbird2164
4 жыл бұрын
Might be because this is datamined. the game maybe play the music during the cutscene normally.
@KingLich451
4 жыл бұрын
data mine my ass
@MarkTheCat4 жыл бұрын
This is so china quality it’s gonna give me coronavirus
@dmytro.d4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a first year animation student's work that was done at 4 am after a party, that also took them less time than this cinematic lasts.
@felixdhawale17443 жыл бұрын
Epic crossover between 2 legends
@xXToraKobayashiXx4 жыл бұрын
the slowest fight in the history of games
@akray364 жыл бұрын
Virgin Demon Hunter vs Chad Death Knight
@Min-gy8zu
4 жыл бұрын
10k+ years old virgin
@karama300video
4 жыл бұрын
Lore accurate! xD
@sheogallvoidgazer2423
4 жыл бұрын
@@Min-gy8zu that's even worse...
@user-kq2jf2hq6l
4 жыл бұрын
what does this word "chad" mean? i didn't find the translation for it i am from ukraine
Пікірлер: 2 200
What's with the stiff walk at the start? That's not Arthas, that's Arthritis.
@nightmelody777hiatus2
4 жыл бұрын
XD
@julieannono8967
4 жыл бұрын
you sir, made my day
@Roamingfirebat
4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@TorxyElboo
4 жыл бұрын
It's cold outside
@raptormage2209
4 жыл бұрын
He walks like he just shoved a broom up his ass
Imagine hearing that after almost 20 years your favorite game was going to get remade. Imagine knowing that Arthas vs Illidan was originally supposed to be a full-blown cinematic that wasn't made due to time and budget constraints. Imagine hoping that after all those years, Blizzard, widely known for the amazing quality of their cinematics, would do this scene justice, letting us see Arthas vs Illidan in all its cinematic glory. Imagine then playing the game and seeing this as the result of all that anticipation.
@trischkali700
3 жыл бұрын
Therapist: What is causing your deep feelings of sadness and disappointment? Me:
@stoheha
2 жыл бұрын
I have known this sad fact as well, and I have made sure to mention it in any video that even has a blip of this scene. Thank you for helping spread the good, but sad word.
@D3d23
2 жыл бұрын
I know it is disappointing.
@plus_sign
2 жыл бұрын
this is way better than the other version lol
@thefakebriskeh
2 жыл бұрын
@@plus_sign not even close
"Look how they massacred my boy." RIP Warcraft III, you'll be forever in our hearts.
@tuanang7889
4 жыл бұрын
glad i still had my pirated version.
@TheREALExposingtheJoyofS-px3ri
4 жыл бұрын
@@tuanang7889 Lucky...
@raudello3666
4 жыл бұрын
I'll never be able to play the good version of Warcraft III 😭😭😭😭
@VeraldoAncodini
4 жыл бұрын
@@raudello3666 You can sail the high seas.
@VeraldoAncodini
2 жыл бұрын
@Miguel Santos That doesn't fix the myriad of other issues the Refunded version has.
It's horrifying that Raid: Shadow Legends has better CGI than an official cutscene from a multi-billion dollar mega-company like Blizzard.
@onlyRuted
4 жыл бұрын
Yeap! 1000%
@peoplearegood6221
4 жыл бұрын
Dude. This game is from over a decade ago...
@derekbush6239
4 жыл бұрын
@@peoplearegood6221 Yes, and this cutscene is less than 6 months old, so that point is completely invalid. This was created within the past year, it is not the same cutscene as from 2003. It's just laziness, like the rest of Reforged.
@bryton1920
4 жыл бұрын
@@derekbush6239 Just so you're aware, Blizzard didn't make this cutscene.
@derekbush6239
4 жыл бұрын
@@bryton1920 They still at the very least commissioned it, approved it, and put their name on it, before including it in their IP. So they thought this was acceptable work.
The ending of the cutscene should have been a dude in the bath playing with his Arthas and Illidan action figures. It would make the stiff animations believable at least.
@flufychickens
4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@TeriiTeri
4 жыл бұрын
bruh lmao
@aktafool
4 жыл бұрын
LMAO my favorite comment. Thank you.
@SweetPuppyDogo
4 жыл бұрын
underrated comment!
@Cross8ow
4 жыл бұрын
:D :D :D :D lol
there is zero tension in this cinematic, also it doesnt make any sense, illidan transforms into demon form to jump directly onto the blade? wtf?!?
@edoardotosoni3190
4 жыл бұрын
Right, it makes no sense, he goes against the sword, also why is so slow and strage?! This fight is awful.
@mathy9408
4 жыл бұрын
I mean, maybe it is something about Arthas that makes every rival an idiot. Sylvanas guitar-slide into him too.
@winniethepooh4141
4 жыл бұрын
original war3 story never make any sense
@Fuchsia_tude
4 жыл бұрын
Hey at least it's true to the original cinematic in that way
@realname8362
4 жыл бұрын
this is pretty much exactly what happened in the original cutscene though?
quote: "is this an out of season april fools joke?"
@LagoonKnight
3 жыл бұрын
"Don't you have Phones" #facepalm
Warcraft: Shadow Legends
@sapprine4534
4 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA
@kevin-7091
4 жыл бұрын
I'm dead 🤣🤣
@benjamin7670
3 жыл бұрын
Let's play Warcraft: Shadow Leegends. Start now for $30
@johnroyce8650
3 жыл бұрын
Everything is sponsored by RAID: Shadow Legends.
@cherenmertens
2 жыл бұрын
Worse. Raid shadow legends ads are better animated than this
It’s not just the music missing. It’s the flow of the fight that is weird
@christianscott1229
4 жыл бұрын
No Kidding we expected more out of this 😕
@stefanstefanovic3814
4 жыл бұрын
I tried to edit it to look better. I added music and i timed music very good but its still weird and boring 😔.
@foresightfox1256
4 жыл бұрын
Tbh there is nothing in it. Bad Sound, stiff animations, lame fighting. Those 2 used to be super powerful and Illidan just gets 2 hitted. Also the smile from Arthas at the start, that is horrible he doesn't look like a badass, more like a drug addicted rapist.
@entity9094
2 жыл бұрын
Power of Sargearas (since he made the legion) against the power of The Jailer (since he made the "The Lich King" role, the Crown of Domination, Frostmourne, which made the Scourge.). You'd have thought the battle flow wouldn't be as weird.
@silver2zilver
Жыл бұрын
I was mad that Illidan got hit in the first one, I thought he disengaged to go defensive and couldnt defend which always was weird to me. This one does feel like it's missing a lot of beats.
I guess Frostmourne has eaten soul of this cinematic, because there is none.
@JansonTR
4 жыл бұрын
Dam son
@yurionedge2199
4 жыл бұрын
Good one!
@niemand9143
4 жыл бұрын
Tomáš Plánička he ist not eating ilidans soul ilidan is alaiv Noob
@altide8784
4 жыл бұрын
The soul of warcraft died after WC3
@igor_pavlovich
3 жыл бұрын
i guess Frostmourne has eaten alot, cause it looks thicc in this cinematic
Who exactly is liking this? Rule 34 artists do a better job for free.
@VangaurdTDS
3 жыл бұрын
People who don't feel the need to make their entire identity about hating a game company,
@ET-tt5nc
3 жыл бұрын
@@VangaurdTDS Tasteless Shiteaters like that trash cinematic and it seems you're one of them.
@culturageekyartesmarciales1169
3 жыл бұрын
@@ET-tt5nc shut the hell up , its was the point of this cutscene, been more simple than the others like in theoriginal version, research a little
I love how unwieldy their weapons are, to the point that even the animators struggled to make that fight look good xD
@Bulletproof_Trump
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, both of them seem like they are struggling just to hold them, let alone put power into their strikes.
The only "reforged" cinematic, and it looks like an indie low budget video. Damn blizzard you used to put effort in your games
@bernhartschmieder9401
4 жыл бұрын
People who bought the pre-sale are to blame. They have their money already, why would they care to put effort into it?
@heroicxidiot
4 жыл бұрын
Reforged wasn't even made by blizzard. They outsourced it.
@LuckyPed10
4 жыл бұрын
this is like a freebie tho, they said they don't plan on reforging any of the cinamatics and I was not expecting them to do this at all either. so I can't complain for one bonus reforged cinematic they gave us outside of what they told us when I pre-purchased the game.
@231swift
4 жыл бұрын
@@heroicxidiot wheres the proof? and what company?
@heroicxidiot
4 жыл бұрын
@@231swift google "warcraft 3 reforged outsourced" and you'll find some articles. Not only that, Lemon Sky, the Malaysian game dev company outright state that they worked on Reforged
Looks like a fan-made
@tessatessa3894
4 жыл бұрын
Chinese outsource.
@juanyang838
4 жыл бұрын
@@tessatessa3894 Acceptable Reason.
@mendezclaroswillydaniel1126
4 жыл бұрын
True
@user-zr7bf9cd5e
4 жыл бұрын
I think fans can make it much better than
@leman7648
4 жыл бұрын
much worse
Illidan: "turns into his demon form" Arthas: Ha! Perfect. I'll just wait for him to fly at me and... Illidan: "starts throwing green meteors" Arthas: ... f***.
@motherlyfather9871
4 жыл бұрын
*cannot attack air units*
@dimitriskemerlis4983
4 жыл бұрын
Death grip lol
@michaelwrynn4002
4 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@BFEARLESS009
4 жыл бұрын
Death coil and death animated gargoyls back :))))))))) lol
Me: Mom, can we get Warcraft 3? Mom: No we have Warcraft 3 at home. Warcraft 3 at home:
Even if the two heroes fought on HOTS, they would be more energetic than this.
@RunehearthCL
4 жыл бұрын
And Arthas also wins there lol
@c1borgen
4 жыл бұрын
Runehearth are you sure?
@bluecheese7366
4 жыл бұрын
and I also, 시공 조아.
@Frazzledotd
4 жыл бұрын
The hots cinematics are probably the most blizz thing in recent years and they've all but given up on the game
@vld7759
4 жыл бұрын
@@Frazzledotd As much as bfa sucked the trailer was great
It honestly looks like some KZread channel made it, that’s how off the models look.
@DrRhyhm
4 жыл бұрын
The models are great, the animation sucks.
@nonusbusinissus5632
4 жыл бұрын
Does it not look like plastic figurines animated? like 1:13 That entire scene somehow looks like some sort of stop motion animation. The entire thing is so far in the frikin uncanny valley for me that its ridiculous. This is not regular 3d animation for sure, they somehow cut down the time on making it and this was the end result, and frankly id prefer the frikin original w3 shait over this cringe.
@icenice9468
4 жыл бұрын
Agree
@Galastin
4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Blizz didn't make this. I think they outsourced a ton of the art work.
@cammykins5813
4 жыл бұрын
@@randomnamechannel9813 I don't mean anything towards him, but IkEdit makes much better videos with a DECIMAL of what Blizzard has and it's as good or way better than this.
they somehow managed to make this iconic fight look even more underwhelming than it was in warcraft 3, good job blizz.
Wow wonderful! The most beautiful school project i've seen in a while! I'm sure you will get an A, Timmy! ... Wait, what you mean it's a blizzard cinematic?
@sanzharzaitenov5268
3 жыл бұрын
Beter than their first version
@Sunless1337
2 жыл бұрын
@@sanzharzaitenov5268 Not when considering the year produced, and the facial animations were worse than some of the old cinematics, lol. Contextually a freaking terrible cinematic.
This looks like a stop motion project with action figures made by a fan.
@GrandPaladinTyrux
4 жыл бұрын
There's a fan remake of this cutscene that's literally higher quality using WoW models.
@citramate3633
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like a good percentage of us thought the exact same thing only about 20 seconds in.
@darykeng
4 жыл бұрын
Scratch that, actual fan would make 110% better
@Qaosbringer
4 жыл бұрын
@@darykeng this is not reforged cinematic, this is a ingame made cinematic, EXACTLY LIKE THE ORIGINAL COMBAT SCENE. And the only "reforged" cinematic is the Warcraft 3 Trailer / Intro cinematic. At least try to be not stupid.
@darykeng
4 жыл бұрын
@@Qaosbringer and? How is this changing statement that fan would make this 17 yo scene better?
Warcraft III: Refunded
@SelfProclaimedEmperor
4 жыл бұрын
You have been replaced by 20 Chinese players.
I always wanted a proper Arthas vs Illidan cinematic. Never thought the original one could have been better than a reforged cinematic which made after 20 years of the original one.
@culturageekyartesmarciales1169
3 жыл бұрын
How is it better exactly
@stabbystab8363
2 жыл бұрын
@@culturageekyartesmarciales1169 The old one is better in every single conceivable way
@silver2zilver
Жыл бұрын
The original was a 30 second battle, which you would think is more normal since it's a 1 shot kill situation, but in this for some reason they prolonged it so illidan can growl and then use his HANDS in a sword fight... i... don't understand
@silver2zilver
Жыл бұрын
@@culturageekyartesmarciales1169 The first strike by arthas to Illidan shows Illidan and Arthas having different stances. This one adds weird "suspense" things like arthas dropping his weapon (with 2 hands on his weapon? Disarmed?) and then illidan gets mad and rages but then uses HANDS in a blade fight makes NO sense.
@Kspice9000
Жыл бұрын
@silver2zilver that and arthas' strikes are so damn slow. And he's supposed to be inhumanely strong and fast in this scene. Him and Illidan should've basically has a dbz/the flash style of charge.
So you're telling me the WOW intro looked like it did and 15 years later, THIS is the best they had?
Well, this certainly makes me feel better about not preordering 😂
@Lunamagpie33388
4 жыл бұрын
...I keep telling myself my meat wagon was worth it
Why such stiff movements? The sound effects of their weapons colliding with one another doesn't match with their fighting it feels like.
@Avast3
4 жыл бұрын
cuz it's cold
@user-ki4to4vh8d
4 жыл бұрын
Why Illidan don't cutting him 1:00 and let him go ???
@user-ki4to4vh8d
4 жыл бұрын
Illidan could not lose to Arthas, even without a change
@methical__
4 жыл бұрын
Those weapons feel like they have no weight. There is literally no exaggeration on that movement to swing the sword.
@mmtt1427
4 жыл бұрын
its rushed
The fight is actually much better when watched at 1.25 speed. It gets more dynamic.
@aaronthestuffguy3485
2 жыл бұрын
Holy hell it does!
@ScottMccain117
2 жыл бұрын
Lol genius
@TGIFrank
2 жыл бұрын
Well spotted. You shaved a quarter off the runtime. As long as we're min/maxing, bump it up to 1.5. Since they didn't bother composing a score or recording any dialogue they look like they're actually strong enough to wield their respective weapons and the grunting sounds aren't too cartoony.
@Sp1Tz_2nd
2 жыл бұрын
smart guy
That anime flight in the end though, I can't take it.
Hearing Arthas running to get his sword cracks me up for some reason.
There is no weight to any action, so it looks like they are fighting in space or underwater , what a really bad animation geez
@SporkyMcFly
4 жыл бұрын
Looks 10 000 times better than the original to me.
@Cross8ow
4 жыл бұрын
@@SporkyMcFly Check graphic performance in 2002 vs 2020 my friend than say something about "old animation being bad". Also old cutscene is 50seconds long not 2 minutes what makes it stupidly slow.
@moodyhd3449
4 жыл бұрын
They couldn't have even had Illidan say "YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!" at the beginning?
[smiles in smug anime face]
They really had a chance to make an amazing fight here that we could of only dreamed in the modified for time one in the original, but we got this instead.
Quite literally 2 old men fight over the recliner.
@KapitanPazur1
4 жыл бұрын
Its like a symbolism for crying W3 fanboys over this cinematic lmao
@failegion7828
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair this is quite an atrocious example where the actual game its being remastered from has a better cinematic cutscene... It's just another game in the pile of disappoints recently released. Through to even fairer, they honestly should have seen this coming with Activision in the mix and only have their own sleds to blame for buying trash.
HM........looks far to plastic,
@RussianGamerTeam
4 жыл бұрын
Lego Ninjago final fight, lmao
@Khajar
4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Just my thought! Looks like some kid playing with his action figures.
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
4 жыл бұрын
@@Khajar yeah that was also what I was thinking when I first saw it,
@Johnx3m
4 жыл бұрын
@@RussianGamerTeam That was better lmao
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
4 жыл бұрын
@@Johnx3m What was?
This is a perfect representation of what Reforged is all about; fall way short of what was promised by gutting everything that people loved and throw some bizarre HD skins on it. I watched the original and it was so much more believable (despite the characters barely having hands) because they actually moved like they didn't want to get cut by the other guy
You can tell by the lack of hair physics in Arthas' hair that Blizzard dropped the ball with this version.
Feels weird
@ironic4910
4 жыл бұрын
Does it feel like watching rocks fight?! Or does it feel like they are made out of wood and not flesh!
@pootisbird2164
4 жыл бұрын
@@ironic4910 My bet is that it's because the cutscene is in engine.
@mba6031
4 жыл бұрын
@@ironic4910 both dude, both
@DrRhyhm
4 жыл бұрын
Because it's missing the music. Imagine Darth Maul and ObiWan's fight without Dual of Fates
@CsStoker
4 жыл бұрын
I know, there's something really odd about it. The older one felt a lot more dinamic
So let me get this straight. Illidan disarms Arthas, who's a step in front of him, with Arthas throwing his hands up in the air. Yet Arthas somehow makes it back to his sword with Illidan in tow. Now please make me believe ILLIDAN STORMRAGE, a NIGHT ELF DEMON with WINGS AND HOOVES is SLOWER than a VERY LOW ON POWER (remember the campaign!) DEATH KNIGHT that needed to both DO A 180 AND RUN AND DO ANOTHER 180 BACK TO HIS OPPONENT. Excuse me what?
@bernhartschmieder9401
4 жыл бұрын
There is simply no logic in the cinematic, you wont find one second of it that has actual thought put into it.
@Mike-ds4ht
4 жыл бұрын
Arthas was obv. using his E (Frozen Tempest). Illidan's useless against that, even with the speed boost Metamorphosis gets at 20. Plus the Illidan player was a noob. Overusing Dive limited his DPS while he only used one Sweeping Strike to engage. Missed the Evasion on Arthas' final AA. Scrub.
@Mithguar
4 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-ds4ht This isn't Hots. It was Warcraft 3. Both Illidan and Arthas had no such abilities.
@DrRhyhm
4 жыл бұрын
He wasnt low on power if you remember the Lich King gave his remaining powers to him to at the start of the mission, he goes back to lvl 10.
@xx-cs1yj
4 жыл бұрын
@@Mithguar r/whoooosh
More than 20 years ago, Final Fantasy VIII made better cinematic scenes !
@sanzharzaitenov5268
3 жыл бұрын
Warcraft 3 openings are epic
Illidan:
How did they make this worse than the original? At least that one still holds up
@Luirru55
4 жыл бұрын
Because they are looking for short money
@Carpatouille
4 жыл бұрын
The original was kinda bad too tbh
@lazarus8453
4 жыл бұрын
the orginal actualy sucks
@Warlundrie
4 жыл бұрын
@@lazarus8453 I agree with this.... but that is no excuse for this damn cinematic, which, apart from the graphic is at least as bad.....
@Hirotoro4692
4 жыл бұрын
@@lazarus8453 *less
Better cinematic than N'zoth's death
@pain1373
4 жыл бұрын
Is when you expect more.
@kungfuvoodoo9889
4 жыл бұрын
Not a very high bar set there
@truefalcon6884
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly actually going to disagree with that... at least that looked somewhat decent, even if it was anticlimactic
@DahnsHeart
4 жыл бұрын
When Blizzard's cinematic is so bad you need to compare it to Blizzard's cinematic
It amuses me that the slow-mo section where Arthas dodges Illidans attack looks the same speed as the rest of the fight.
What the actual F ?! Some fanmade cinetmatic are more dynamic and polished than this thing ! It's insane to see that Blizzard produced that..
The animation for this looks pretty clumsy, unpolished. Kinda like those amateur Garry's Mod animations, but worse.
@JTHMRulez1
4 жыл бұрын
Why are you everywhere?!
@ENGRtube
4 жыл бұрын
For real, this looks fan made instead of a multi BILLION dollar companies effort...
@juanyang838
4 жыл бұрын
Even some random TF2 SFMs are better than this.
@alformodoritos2076
4 жыл бұрын
Looks like one of those terribly bad Chinese mobile game ad.
@BingBangPoe
4 жыл бұрын
@@JTHMRulez1 Am I? :O
The movements are so stiff.
There is exactly one thing that I like in this: Illidan moving very slightly after his defeat. Great way to foreshadow that he will still be alive and kicking in WoW. The original made it look like he was 100% dead due to low poly count (and possibly because there were no plans to bring him back yet).
Almost heaven, West Virginia....
This is not Blizzard Quality at all!!! Its outsourced animation again?!
@almas4663
4 жыл бұрын
It's perfect! Stop blindfully hate everything! That was a perfect way to show the fight
@ZeratKJ
4 жыл бұрын
again ? different animation was outsourced or the Diablo immortal is on your mind ?
@JetrekkerteJ
4 жыл бұрын
@@almas4663 lol blind ?
@almas4663
4 жыл бұрын
@@JetrekkerteJ You knew what this is gonna be at Blizzcon 2019,it's amazing
@BubblepunkAD
4 жыл бұрын
The Models were outsorced
Missing music and lack of good editing, the fight sits, there is no point to make it longer if you cannot fill it with actual immersive content.
Man, can you imagine if this cinematic was actually good?
I like how Arthas cut right through Illidan, but when Turalion tried to slay Illidan in the legion cinematic he just grabbed the blade like it was barely anything. Goes to show what kinda power Arthas had. And he wasn't even the true lich king yet at this time, I believe the open gate area that Arthas proceeded to is where he gets the helm.
@Raumes513
2 жыл бұрын
Yea I think you’re right if I remember correctly illidan was there for the soul purpose to not allow arthas to reach the crown
@cliffburton6325
2 жыл бұрын
@@Raumes513 Yes that's right. Didn't go so well for poor Illidan lol
This looks so bad omg
It feels made by some asian company...
@naidenhristov95
4 жыл бұрын
maybe cuz its 15-20 years old thing
@olegshtolc7245
4 жыл бұрын
It kinda was. Reforged was outsourced to some Malaysian company
@olegshtolc7245
4 жыл бұрын
Bernhart Schmieder all the graphics was made by a company named lemon sky . They are asians. So blizzard have put a really little effort in this game
@naidenhristov95
4 жыл бұрын
@Thor dude its REFIRGED. have you played warcraft 3? from 2002? the idea of reforge to make the game little bit better looking. mostly better textures. same old game but just little better, not entirely new game. thats the idea. and this cinematic is the same from 2002 but reforged. the same old cinematic. you guys look like fking idiots
@Masterwar15
4 жыл бұрын
@@naidenhristov95 This cutscene alone is brand new, with new models and animations, it's nothing like the original.
ONE OF THE BEST CINEMATICS BLIZZARD HAS EVER MADE oh wait
They retconned the hell out of this fight, in the original Illidan getting his ass handed to him the entire 30 second fight, he was on his back after the first swing.
It's like anime fight, without music with short breaks every few seconds and then you realize they swung their weapons maybe five times.
@osrictemper4225
4 жыл бұрын
It miss at least 4 minutes tacitcs explanation from protagonist side :p
@leonardoromero3859
2 жыл бұрын
@@osrictemper4225 Exactly, and it is also missing when the protagonist and the villain stare at each other for an hour
@osrictemper4225
2 жыл бұрын
@@leonardoromero3859 And some flashbacks! At least 2 episodes long ;)
This feels like those cinematics for mobile games. I guess that isn't surprising, they live for the Chinese market now.
They move like the figurines I'd control with my hands when I was a little kid.
How can something look so good yet so bad at the same time? As stills, the models look beautiful. As an animation, this looks like some vfx college student's project
Arthas: It's over Illidan! I have the low ground!
@michaelh555
4 жыл бұрын
Purely the best comment here!
@yurionedge2199
4 жыл бұрын
Illidan: You underestimate my power!
Ok so let us all be reminded that this in done in 2020....i repeat 2020 .... looks like 2003 at best :(
@rcblazer
4 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, the original version of this cinematic came out in 2003, and it's way better!
@GraveUypo
4 жыл бұрын
@@rcblazer since i didn't remember at all what it was like, i went to watch that and i find the rumors greatly exaggerated. come on, this is bad but the old one is like 15 second long, nothing happens and it has bad camerawork and terrible original war3 graphics. i thought it was an actual cinematic from the way people are talking about it.
so why wernt the rest of the cut scenes of this quality
This is what my €40 went towards, I have literally helped fund the death and reforge of my first Blizzard game... At least it seems that they let their intern film students work on their first project by animating this video for us. It's a nice touch they didn't add any battle music as well - really lets the awkwardness flow that much better.
Even machinimas have less stiff animations, never again outsource your games
So this is what we got after 17 years??? The game that put Blizzard on the map and this is the remastered cinematic of it..... Epic Fail.. Grin..
@Masterwar15
4 жыл бұрын
That was Starcraft though.
@bernhartschmieder9401
4 жыл бұрын
Everything is a fail with Blizzard these days.
@AsprosOfAzeroth
4 жыл бұрын
@@Masterwar15 Starcraft; Diablo all very famous game franchises. But we all know who is the *Golden Goose* of the family, and Warcraft 3 is the game that started it!
@user-ki4to4vh8d
4 жыл бұрын
Blizzard's humiliated Illidan . . .
I've waited years for the reforged game to come out only to see this?
where did the music go?
Something is missing - the music?
@azraelgorge9203
4 жыл бұрын
Feels better without it tbh.
@farseer2043
4 жыл бұрын
The original cutscene didn't have music either.
@SoundtracksandMore
4 жыл бұрын
@@farseer2043 Yes it did.
@DrRhyhm
4 жыл бұрын
@@farseer2043 It did have.
@almas4663
4 жыл бұрын
This scene is so epic that it don't need music at all. It will only ruin the atmosphere.
The lack of music really murdered the tension. It added a lot to the original fight, even though it was shorter and not as well animated. You still got sucked into that fight, and it didn't feel like they were running around with 2 ton weights either.
Had the animations not been so stuff this would look fantastic
Up to now every time I heard that the original was better my response was... "Yah. I din't like reforged too." But now that I've re-watched the old fight I'm actually amazed by how it really is better. 😂
I feel embarrassed for people who bought this. Yikes.
@Luirru55
4 жыл бұрын
I feel embarrassed for having every liked warcraft
@raptormage2209
4 жыл бұрын
@@Luirru55 Nah man, warcraft 3 was awesome. but reforged... well...
@NostalgicMem0ries
4 жыл бұрын
im not sure if i will download it when it will be cracked lol, says much
The animations are slow and have no weight behind them, so it feels like 2 action figures fighting in slow motion. The increased length of the fight also highlights how much it needed some dialogue. It feels uncharacteristic for both Arthas and Illidan to be so quiet during a fight.
@Lichelf
4 жыл бұрын
Watching it at 1.25 speed actually improves it a lot. The characters are faster so it feels more like a real fight. And while there still isn't any dialogue, it atleast reduces the length of the awkward pauses.
@user-ki4to4vh8d
4 жыл бұрын
Why Illidan don't cutting him 1:00 and let him go ???
@osrictemper4225
4 жыл бұрын
@@Lichelf Your comment made me realise that i watched it at 1.5 speed at first and it still felt like eternity ;P
@raptormage2209
4 жыл бұрын
aparently in the novel Illidan even told arthas something like : ''Fool, i have trained with these warglaves for thousands of years. how long did you train with your precious sword ?'' or something along those lines. imagine a scene where illidan flies into the air and hovers while he boasts about his training like '' oh yea, i have trained so haarrd''
every time I remember that these two used to be respected heroes that became like this. It makes me wonder what kind of villain the warden could've been.
This reminds me of going to work in the Winter. Showing up in ragged warm clothes because you have never needed to use the warm clothes because you lived in warm climates for a good chunk of your life.
Okay, Blizzard. I thought Its impossible, but You did it! You killed my favourite game!
eh, looks fan made. i was really expecting more from blizz.
This cinematic seriously gave me physical pain! How is this even possible?
Even compared to Blizzard's weaker efforts, the entire execution of this 'reforged' cutscene feels shockingly sloppy, weightless and tension-lite.
It feels like it was unironically made by an indie company. I've seen better remakes of this fight from fans on youtube...*much* better remakes
@MetalGearissolid
4 жыл бұрын
Share them, then.
@MarkTheCat
4 жыл бұрын
Thor but it is published by Blizzard brand so audience expects no less than a classic Blizzard level of cinematography. Guess Blizzard isn’t equal quality anymore.
It hurts so much to see this again.
Do you know have bgm ?
As an asian, I have to agree: Give us the old Blizzard with their high quality products, I dont want to see shitty anime-fights with plot-holes big enough for Sargaera's sword to punch through.
@TheREALExposingtheJoyofS-px3ri
4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah... Totally agree, as a Native American... Which is pretty much an off-shoot of being an Asian, I guess? lol.
@heftymagic4814
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheREALExposingtheJoyofS-px3ri whät
@TheREALExposingtheJoyofS-px3ri
4 жыл бұрын
@@heftymagic4814 /smh... lol. Native Americans originally come from Asia... You're not very big into genealogy are you?
@TheMoonman4
3 жыл бұрын
What does you being Asian have yo do with anything
looks worse than the original, lmao.
@ThomasWarhammer
4 жыл бұрын
No. It doesn't.
@thinhvo3893
4 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasWarhammer really does. At least as the original look smooth in its movement. This look so clunky.
@adiveler
4 жыл бұрын
TBH in the original, they barely did anything in the fight: both do long swords friction, Illidan do a backflip, Arthas do a swing, and it's over.
@Titi-pu2hl
4 жыл бұрын
@@adiveler at least it wasn't clunky
@adiveler
4 жыл бұрын
@@Titi-pu2hl Well... it's actually was even clunkier since they used the in-game engine for that cut-scene, which wasn't great for an elaborate close-up fight.
It was very disappointed me. So wooden animation and so chinese style and whole cinematic is stupid. Old cinematic from 2003 is much better
@MaxChannelSavin
4 жыл бұрын
Выглядит реально как-то трешово
@Ordo1980
4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same. Even the old one was quite cheap. But at least there they clearly tried to do the best with that equipment.
@Стенька_Пианист
4 жыл бұрын
PavellGameChannel, hello there! Знал, что заглянешь… Жду "новое" бомбление по кампаниям!
They give their Mary sue sylvannas 3 good cinematics but the most relevant 1v1 in warcraft a sfm
2018: Do you guys have no phones? 2020: Do you guys have no sense of humor?
Where is the music from orginal Warcraft 3?!
@pootisbird2164
4 жыл бұрын
Might be because this is datamined. the game maybe play the music during the cutscene normally.
@KingLich451
4 жыл бұрын
data mine my ass
This is so china quality it’s gonna give me coronavirus
Looks like a first year animation student's work that was done at 4 am after a party, that also took them less time than this cinematic lasts.
Epic crossover between 2 legends
the slowest fight in the history of games
Virgin Demon Hunter vs Chad Death Knight
@Min-gy8zu
4 жыл бұрын
10k+ years old virgin
@karama300video
4 жыл бұрын
Lore accurate! xD
@sheogallvoidgazer2423
4 жыл бұрын
@@Min-gy8zu that's even worse...
@user-kq2jf2hq6l
4 жыл бұрын
what does this word "chad" mean? i didn't find the translation for it i am from ukraine
@BiriBiri925
4 жыл бұрын
@@user-kq2jf2hq6l ну типо идеальный мужик. Альфа самец.
Why did everyone press dislike on this? Literally, Wowhead didn't make it. They just uploaded it.
I cant believe how good the fans are at making these fan fiction videos. Blizz should reach out to you and at least offer you some kind of praise.
This looks like one of those cheap Chinese mobile games.
Am I the only one getting Robot Chicken vibes from this?
@Mithguar
4 жыл бұрын
Please... Robot Chicken would make that 10x more exciting...
Not the same company that made the Wrath trailer. Same name however.
The one detail of this “remaster” I do like is that after Arthas cuts Illidan he doesn’t even bother to look back at him.