If you have a self image you are going to be hurt | J. Krishnamurti

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If you have a self image you are going to be hurt | J. Krishnamurti
Extract from the second dialogue in Ojai, 1977.
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  • @omanirudh3010
    @omanirudh30102 жыл бұрын

    "when there is an experiencing, in that second there is no thought. Then thought comes along, says how marvelous that was. It captures it and then wants repetition"

  • @lipingfeng
    @lipingfeng2 жыл бұрын

    This crystal clarity is like a healing balm. Listening to JK when you are in pain heals it, instantly. It sweeps away all the pains, hurts and pettiness. now you can breathe, and live, fully.

  • @lynnkidd080
    @lynnkidd0802 жыл бұрын

    "Don't theorize about it - unless you are speaking from *fact* [actuality], everything else is meaningless." 04:51

  • @iulian9072
    @iulian90722 жыл бұрын

    This man is The Most important thing that happens to me. It didn't happened, it won't happen; It's a on going Happening.

  • @TG4653

    @TG4653

    2 жыл бұрын

    K might say go into it, it's not the speaker, it's the message. Very much agree the messages from this speaker are, what we in human form must spend all of time understanding and doing. This chaotic society, each person so needs this, the truly smart know that they do not know.

  • @lynnkidd080
    @lynnkidd0802 жыл бұрын

    "You can only go into it if you have *no* ideas about it." 02:14

  • @ZenTradeGame
    @ZenTradeGame2 жыл бұрын

    Just stop interrupting him please ! 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @devarakondajayanth0681

    @devarakondajayanth0681

    Ай бұрын

    He is dead

  • @derekkase7884
    @derekkase78842 жыл бұрын

    This video holds so much truth it requires many listenings to fully touch our consciousness

  • @clacicle

    @clacicle

    Жыл бұрын

    So true. I’ve been listening to the podcasts and have listened to the one on sorrow numerous times. Each time I feel I understand what he says just a little bit better.

  • @phreeizi
    @phreeizi2 жыл бұрын

    Understanding freedom is rare. Therefore, freedom is rare. 😊

  • @Patrx999

    @Patrx999

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like how succint and how accurate your insight is! :)

  • @lukaramljak8347
    @lukaramljak83472 жыл бұрын

    K was really one in billion.83 years old and having sharp mind and iq 300 is beyond unique.

  • @leighcecil3322
    @leighcecil33222 жыл бұрын

    Spot on sir.., Buddha mind... the illusion of self is desolved... beautiful mind, this is the only way we can stop all the suffering & violence wisdom & peace to all... namista...

  • @Patrx999
    @Patrx9992 жыл бұрын

    I wonder whether he was frustrated due to pain in his body. I know him from other talks and he is unusually quicker here. I love every bit of him! He helped me change my life. Doesn't matter how such a novice I may stay, the impact of the order I have found thanks to him in my life is immense. I had been so lost for so many years, relentlessly in search of the right images and as he says: I found more and more confusion and dependence only. Incredible how the elimination of all conflicts in the mind leads to peace and unhurt states. Peace to all!

  • @mkhululiaaron722

    @mkhululiaaron722

    2 жыл бұрын

    @ Patrick Bodó Your words >> 🧡 I wish you all the best 🧡

  • @Nicolas-ll3cz

    @Nicolas-ll3cz

    2 жыл бұрын

    no, he is not. Read his diary.

  • @patrickbinford590

    @patrickbinford590

    2 жыл бұрын

    Non-clinging! Awareness: don't create images. Live in the present. All good stuff!! Thank you, JK. He was a man who I think did get frustrated at how people were following him for YEARS, who were "clinging."

  • @NondualityChannel
    @NondualityChannel2 жыл бұрын

    Centerless...living without images...and vulnerable. 🙏

  • @haric9458
    @haric94582 жыл бұрын

    If you have self image, you are going to get hurt. How not to have self image? Experience. While experiencing, give your full attention and no thoughts.

  • @Rareme530

    @Rareme530

    2 жыл бұрын

    Another fellow comes and makes a formula out of it.. one of K's dialogues

  • @ninoskaramosmiguel9704

    @ninoskaramosmiguel9704

    2 жыл бұрын

    More Easy to say then done..

  • @Pradoceleste
    @Pradoceleste2 жыл бұрын

    Not many people notice the tremendous energy master Krishna uses when he speaks, especially when he mentions the word "fact".

  • @tedwallace9828
    @tedwallace9828 Жыл бұрын

    He got me towards the end! When we experience something we often start to cling to it. We want to cherish it, or we want or need it to continue, that's the problem. We should rather enjoy the experience in the moment, and as soon as it ends, we need to LET IT GO! As someone who has experienced detachment for a brief 1.5 year, I can say the lving in the moment and letting go of the moment is the KEY!!

  • @arlodante1163
    @arlodante11632 жыл бұрын

    When he said he was getting bored I burst out laughing out loud 😂 Genius!

  • @siderio3712

    @siderio3712

    2 жыл бұрын

    What do you think he meant? Maybe he gets bored of these kind of repetitive and obvious specifications.

  • @omanirudh3010
    @omanirudh30102 жыл бұрын

    "As long as there is a centre, it is impossible Not to register"

  • @CM-do2mc
    @CM-do2mc2 жыл бұрын

    I love the way he says find out 💙

  • @williamcitan
    @williamcitan2 ай бұрын

    Omg this is such a precious gem! I don’t think (🤔 there is thought again 😊) anything deeper than this. Thank you 🙏 ❤

  • @sathyamurthyb9262
    @sathyamurthyb92622 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful backround nature is also listening him

  • @lala6967

    @lala6967

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @geetsehgal5649

    @geetsehgal5649

    2 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful background nature is also listening him

  • @robertbarbaradesouza1877

    @robertbarbaradesouza1877

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's a pity nature can't reply to ur comment, cause it has no hand and no computer to answer , but of course it has hears to hear what KJ says, can't you see it LOL at your comment?? Come on, keep your head in the clouds but keep your feet on the ground....

  • @a_se_ankur
    @a_se_ankur2 жыл бұрын

    Absolute clarity!

  • @bhupendratomar4575
    @bhupendratomar45752 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for your affection and lovely expression ❤️🙏

  • @caramason56
    @caramason562 жыл бұрын

    Thank you 😊👍

  • @abhishubrahmecha720
    @abhishubrahmecha7202 жыл бұрын

    this was a great video. was able to apply to my life almost immediately.

  • @viveksanyal2773
    @viveksanyal27732 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @user-xj2mf4me7l
    @user-xj2mf4me7l11 ай бұрын

    GRACIAS , GRACIAS , gracias por habrir mis ojos a la verdad la realidad gracias por compartir .❤

  • @alifboboy3395
    @alifboboy3395 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for adding auto translate

  • @julianthomas9817
    @julianthomas98172 жыл бұрын

    A gem.

  • @raoplns
    @raoplns2 жыл бұрын

    Great talk....self image is the center of all problems...

  • @Himanshu_Upadhyay_
    @Himanshu_Upadhyay_2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you...🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @johnbarron681
    @johnbarron6812 жыл бұрын

    We believe there's security in our relationships, it's all untrue because it's based on belief. The definition of belief is, concluding that you know something, that you do not know the truth of it. When you believe everything, it means you have concluded that you know,which kills the possibility of every knowing the truth. So ones experience of life will be very small, and you will only be half alive,which is most of the population, so you think your living a full life,when in reality your killing your aliveness, nothing of great joy or happiness or ecstasy or excitement will happen more then a few major moments in your life. Every single day will be exactly the same as the day before, because when we draw conclusions about life we are telling the universe, I don't want to know anymore then I already know and your life will always reflect that. If I'm honest with myself I truly do not know anything, because I realize this the wanting to know has grown within me, the universe will not denie where I put my absolute awareness on somthing,something, has to reveal what you are focused on. Try this with a tree give the same tree everyday your absolute awareness and attention for 1hour a day. You will discover there more to the material world then meets the eye.

  • @magnamia

    @magnamia

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, John, what a powerful comment! Thank you! For a long time, I wanted the security of each day being the same. It is scary to NOT KNOW. But you are right..it is really such a poor message to send to the universe and to underestimate its sheer brilliance. :)

  • @Rareme530

    @Rareme530

    2 жыл бұрын

    Found a Budha in comments section 🙏

  • @hello2020
    @hello2020 Жыл бұрын

    Great thought.

  • @aravinraj9477
    @aravinraj94772 жыл бұрын

    I love Jiddu Krishnamurti ❤️❤️❤️

  • @anilkumarhalimani3204
    @anilkumarhalimani32042 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for J K Official channel all your vidios are really help mankind. If anyone follow J K teachings that man will definately transform

  • @solomontekleab4531
    @solomontekleab45312 жыл бұрын

    The very first day I felt my real being after I listened this life changing discourse.

  • @RamKumar-ks8nu
    @RamKumar-ks8nu2 жыл бұрын

    Great

  • @RaviKumar-wi2ce
    @RaviKumar-wi2ce2 жыл бұрын

    Hidden facts and mind opening speech by j. krishnmurti great teaching philosophy.

  • @bhupeshjuneja9540
    @bhupeshjuneja95402 жыл бұрын

    Very useful. 🙏🏼

  • @Tharealsolomon
    @Tharealsolomon2 жыл бұрын

    How lucky to receive teaching from emanation of Maitreya himself

  • @psrin2001
    @psrin20012 жыл бұрын

    Great analysis of human mind

  • @vimalcurio
    @vimalcurio2 жыл бұрын

    That was Hella deep

  • @addapavan5200
    @addapavan52002 жыл бұрын

    Helpful

  • @inspiringmedia3716
    @inspiringmedia37162 жыл бұрын

    I was dying when the guy kept trying to answer lol 😂

  • @chrishouck2863
    @chrishouck28632 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe how many views.. What a relief.. the dream is almost over.

  • @Montserrat-al-cor
    @Montserrat-al-cor Жыл бұрын

    I love it so much when he begs please not to answer inmediately. At first I got tensed but now I can't stand laughing and has the opposite relief effect on me ;)

  • @bobsarfatty4673
    @bobsarfatty46732 жыл бұрын

    The best of the best for self help.

  • @Josephus_vanDenElzen
    @Josephus_vanDenElzen2 жыл бұрын

    2:14 "You can only go into it if you have no idea about it"

  • @omanirudh3010
    @omanirudh30102 жыл бұрын

    Why does thought seek permanent security ? When thought clings to an image it is the very essense of neuroticism The whole mechanism of image making, When she calls you an idiot or if she calls you marvellous person immediate response is an image. Can I listen without storing an image ?

  • @raksha6057
    @raksha60579 ай бұрын

    I never seen a human being like this human... It's really something high dimensional

  • @aaronv420
    @aaronv420 Жыл бұрын

    love

  • @nobodyreally
    @nobodyreally2 жыл бұрын

    The choice of this title. 🧡

  • @addapavan5200
    @addapavan52002 жыл бұрын

    Correct

  • @DS-gu4oi
    @DS-gu4oi Жыл бұрын

    i see that those things are facts. everything starts from that observation.

  • @sureshbhatt3183
    @sureshbhatt31832 жыл бұрын

    When ever "I" or" mine "is used for overself at the same moment awareness must be there.That means awareness of all the time must be there.

  • @Shunya_Advait
    @Shunya_Advait2 жыл бұрын

    🙏

  • @oddcalm
    @oddcalm2 жыл бұрын

    halo on fire

  • @omanirudh3010
    @omanirudh30102 жыл бұрын

    "As long as that image,.which is.the centre of your being, there is registration"

  • @nikhil-kumar69
    @nikhil-kumar69 Жыл бұрын

  • @bandugupta58
    @bandugupta58 Жыл бұрын

    When you see the whole structure of relationship, the whole of it, then the center becomes unimportant.

  • @anjezx8361
    @anjezx83612 жыл бұрын

    my friend

  • @goodquestion8064
    @goodquestion80642 жыл бұрын

    The human heart and mind

  • @ramongomez8849
    @ramongomez88492 жыл бұрын

    🙏🏻

  • @wandanevada4287
    @wandanevada42872 жыл бұрын

    It's fact that image is hurted. Children don't have images so they don't get hurted for psychological reasons., whoever get hurted are adults with solidified images.

  • @danp6820

    @danp6820

    2 жыл бұрын

    Children get hurt and have images the same as anyone else .,

  • @AnanyaShukla89
    @AnanyaShukla892 жыл бұрын

    ❤️😊

  • @nurhamjuhurie707
    @nurhamjuhurie7072 жыл бұрын

    He's an enlightened being. He has same caliber as Buddha.

  • @manmathahaldar9221
    @manmathahaldar92212 жыл бұрын

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @omanirudh3010
    @omanirudh30102 жыл бұрын

    "that image which is the centre of your being, as long as the image is there, it must register. which means, conflict"

  • @mrra70

    @mrra70

    2 жыл бұрын

    When he says you have a image,or thoughts create a image is it a mental picture? Like when someone says think of a apple and you see it in your mind ?or is the image about how we see are self ?

  • @NITESHKUMAR-is2gr
    @NITESHKUMAR-is2gr2 жыл бұрын

    When you see whole structure of conflict, pain and division the image creates, the centre as 'me' becomes unimportant. The ego will submit only when there is higher understanding!

  • @drtiwari4407
    @drtiwari44072 жыл бұрын

    It is a tiresome activity for the brain to be attentive all the time especially if it is not used to it and may be that is why it makes images...image making is like knowing little bit of everything but going through nothing to solve the daily chores...K always gives a new dimension to thinking...🙏

  • @omanirudh3010
    @omanirudh30102 жыл бұрын

    "I have an image of myself and that image does not correspond to that of an idion "

  • @omanirudh3010
    @omanirudh30102 жыл бұрын

    "experiencing it and then not carrying it along demands tremendous attention and attention is not possible when there is a centre which says I must attend this I must that etc"

  • @parthapratimdas6283
    @parthapratimdas6283 Жыл бұрын

    Here it is. The end of your search.

  • @lalalavera
    @lalalavera2 жыл бұрын

    So i listen to this video, i don't make an image of Krishna and I don't make an image about how i took another up step,i listen i understand and I will use it.there is no me,there is just experience,if i make an idol of Krishna then i made an image of him there should be no security there should be just experience and I have to fit it in to my intuition,i hope i am right

  • @malcolmnicoll1165
    @malcolmnicoll11652 жыл бұрын

    Krishnamurti was the closest incarnation of the Buddha (IMHO).

  • @greenbrightlightawakening252

    @greenbrightlightawakening252

    2 жыл бұрын

    dear friend but this is also an image.

  • @rootsknow3255
    @rootsknow32552 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate these talks. Regarding this particular topic, I wonder how this applies to the hurt we experience from the suffering of others. I imagine that our self image plays a significant part in our perception of it all, but it feels like this varies from the self-centered experience of hurt or flattery that is addressed here. I am also imagining that this particular talk is addressing the hurt or flattery of the ego, which I would distinguish from our feelings related to a collective experience. Does anyone know of any talks where Mr. Krishnamurti may address this concept?

  • @derekkase7884
    @derekkase78842 жыл бұрын

    "One momento porfav..r" .... that was funny

  • @krrankkustom9675
    @krrankkustom96752 жыл бұрын

    Looks like psychlogists call this projection. And fixed self image would be persona in jungian terms

  • @regentogrin518

    @regentogrin518

    2 жыл бұрын

    I see both perspectives as compatible. What K says as a way of escaping from oneself for fear to be (with) oneself.

  • @krrankkustom9675

    @krrankkustom9675

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@regentogrin518 seems like there's just different wording, perspectives ain't differ much

  • @quenessyomy6924
    @quenessyomy69242 жыл бұрын

    …GOING TO BE HURT..❤️

  • @1life_Only
    @1life_Only2 жыл бұрын

    Capitalism is based on self and image

  • @omanirudh3010
    @omanirudh30102 жыл бұрын

    Why does thought make images ? security. but when thought looks into it it sees it, it finds no security

  • @silverkungfu
    @silverkungfu2 жыл бұрын

    People just blurting out non stop let the man speak

  • @radsun12
    @radsun122 жыл бұрын

    Brain can’t give up self image with out a return. Due to its conditioning.

  • @user-rj5hp1xo6m
    @user-rj5hp1xo6m2 жыл бұрын

    Security lies in the denying of image.

  • @ajaymahankar1838
    @ajaymahankar18382 жыл бұрын

    31 Aug 2021

  • @mrra70
    @mrra702 жыл бұрын

    When he says you have a image,or thoughts create a image is it a mental picture? Like when someone says think of a apple and you see it in your mind ?or is the image about how we see are self ?

  • @kevziro
    @kevziro2 жыл бұрын

    Attention is intelligence, and where there is thought operating, intelligence is not. Thought divides, it is the intellect that operates when thinking up images, idea’s conclusions. Intelligence is momentary, because the intellect keeps functioning in day to day life.

  • @mrra70

    @mrra70

    2 жыл бұрын

    When he says you have a image,or thoughts create a image is it a mental picture? Like when someone says think of a apple and you see it in your mind ?or is the image about how we see are self ?

  • @anestos2180

    @anestos2180

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mrra70 yes he speaks about mental image. when you think something and you have emotions,opinions about it and you take them for granted, then the contradiction begin. its like watching your memories as a movie but you are not inside it therefore it will not affect you as something real but rather something imaginary so no image or verbal abstraction can hurt you. You have the physical memory of an apple that you can watch but the mental image take place you say the apples are good,bad, i want them or they suck.This identification is the process of the ego because without ego you just have the physical memory of the apple (no duality involves in it). of course this can go deeper because the apple is a verbal expression and the purpose of language is for communication and not to identification so the words are not so important as long as there is understanding.

  • @shawnhollahan590
    @shawnhollahan5902 жыл бұрын

    An audience of monkey minds !! This is so entertaining watching him get frustrated with the interruptions.

  • @bikram_jha
    @bikram_jha2 жыл бұрын

    6:06 it's a mutual interacting exploitation 👌😅

  • @johnnoughty7944
    @johnnoughty7944 Жыл бұрын

    Wish the crowd had been silent.

  • @davidpalhareslima1144
    @davidpalhareslima1144 Жыл бұрын

    I am stuck because i think its not possible to live without any image about oneself, so i know i close the door, but i cannot be different, can anyone help? This man is tremendous profund

  • @MbMb-et6sf
    @MbMb-et6sf Жыл бұрын

    When i see a child, suffers from the pain not be loved rrom his mother, i feel that pain and it has nothing to do with a self Image. But imagine it is "youre" child, this wound not stop bleeding for years oder years. You can stop every pain out of the past, out of thinking, but there is pain wo comes from outside, i see no possibility to overcome this, more learn to stay in it because to see it and to feel it means that youre heart has not closed his eyes.

  • @raviarya1563
    @raviarya1563 Жыл бұрын

    Gives full attention without motives

  • @sumitbhardwaj5612
    @sumitbhardwaj56126 ай бұрын

    Enlightenment men don't care about honour and dishonour.

  • @travisbickle8008
    @travisbickle80082 жыл бұрын

    two things are for sure, he was a genius and he couldn’t listen to other people speak he’s interrupting all the time

  • @maxwigant2011

    @maxwigant2011

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I think you point out a weakness of his, and a failure to follow his own teaching in finding it so difficult to attentatively listen to other people. Having said this, he himself reminds us not to take anyone else as a model or guru, not even himself.

  • @Patrx999

    @Patrx999

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think he felt it instantly that those people had no serious inquiry whatsoever prior to their answers to Krishnamurti. Plus it was his teaching method. He allowed us to see the truth of the things by repeating. He gave us time to catch up. It is us who needs to listen. :D Plus I think he was in great discomfort in his body on that day and still he gave the talk. :/

  • @mariechong7280

    @mariechong7280

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think ; the point that JK dialogued requires complete attention without own interruption ; so can catch the gist of the matter

  • @o.5548
    @o.55482 жыл бұрын

    He was hurt too

  • @PiyaChoudhari
    @PiyaChoudhari2 жыл бұрын

    I have a self reality and not image

  • @senk2352
    @senk23522 жыл бұрын

    There's an omission in the caption. "going to *be* hurt" has been given as "going be hurt". Do correct it.

  • @jonathanb.6926
    @jonathanb.69262 жыл бұрын

    Thought has no will. It’s not an individual. Thought is not looking for security, for thought is nobody, nothing, just _this_ present thought I am having while writing this stupid comment, etc.

  • @nishantparihar8434
    @nishantparihar84342 жыл бұрын

    10:45

  • @prasadboddupalli
    @prasadboddupalli2 жыл бұрын

    Is it not in the nature of life to form images about people and things ? Can we separate that from living ? If I put my hand in fire, I get burnt, and I form the image that fire hurts. Similarly, when someone abuses us consistenly and we get hurt, we form an image about that person and automatically (without conscious choice) avoid that person the next time we encounter him. Of course, it is not all that black and white. For example, we are taught the image that those wearing religious robes are holy. That is an image that has no basis, unlike the fire or abusive person examples above. I guess we need to consider each case on its own merit and not say that 'image formation must be avoided'. Even non-human life forms form images. A dog has an image of its owner. So, some image formation is what distinguishes life from inanimate forms.

  • @mrra70

    @mrra70

    2 жыл бұрын

    When he says you have a image,or thoughts create a image is it a mental picture? Like when someone says think of a apple and you see it in your mind ?or is the image about how we see are self ?