I suppose you could say the D-Pad is a big plus.

@iidopplerii

Жыл бұрын

get out

@ibookboyuk

Жыл бұрын

I actually laughed out loud at that. Thank you.

@adamjensen1145

Жыл бұрын

🥁 Ba-boom-tsss

@dennisthenothing5139

Жыл бұрын

You didn't...

@homebrewGT2

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

I’m not looking to buy this or most of what Bob reviews at all, but I always find myself watching his stuff because I find his videos to be very soothing

@JC_Chappy

Жыл бұрын

Right?! I haven't touched my switch in months but I watch all of Bob's videos

@SHADOWKNUX1

Жыл бұрын

Bob's got a great entertainer personality and his podcasts are integral to my weekly rotation, so I'm mostly here to support him

@StupidGoozack

Жыл бұрын

Same. I have no interest in getting a retro handheld device and yet I watch every one of his videos about them. Lol

@alexsilva28

Жыл бұрын

I'm looking to buy this or most of what Bob reviews but I always find myself broke

@larkivisto

Жыл бұрын

It's his snarky sarcasm that gets me to watch all his videos, even for stuff like this that I think are stupid.

You can go into tablet mode in the settings. This lets you use it like any other android device

@valentds

Жыл бұрын

yeah, but with tablet mode the physical button stop to work on emulation, right? so useless

@MiteshGandhi93

Жыл бұрын

@@valentds no, the buttons still work

@DINKYMOOSE

Жыл бұрын

​@@valentds gamepads work on android you can even still navigate

@ammakko

Жыл бұрын

lol, Bob can trash half the video

@boozamnboozamnin6816

Жыл бұрын

@@valentds Lol, asks question and incorrectly answers it themselves. Ya got me :P

I can't forgive that "Hydeo Kojeema," Bob.

@juliogodoy8296

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Bahb, what's up with that? Your Japanese teacher is disappointed

@lucho3410

Жыл бұрын

Seems like Bob loves to be unique at pronunciation! Meh-rio, 8bit Doo, high Dee oh Kojima

@Nayfin_Smiff

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget RetroARK

@whispercorner04

Жыл бұрын

As far as i know, the english speakers have a lot of problems with how they pronounce some names, just look the Mario name, i never heard someone from that region say his name correctly except for teachers

@sealinseguro

Жыл бұрын

hidey-ho kojima!

I'm hoping that it sells well enough to make Logitech make a handheld Windows device about the same price range that can run and install Gamepass game natively. There are devices out there, but they all either very new to the game, impossable to get shipped, or they use dirt cheap tech and charge as much as a low end Steam deck. A native device with the backing of a company like Logitech would be an instant hit.

Easily my favorite hardware reviews on KZread, incredibly thorough and honest and covers exactly what gamers want to know. Keep up the great work!

... do we need to have a talk about your 2pm slot?

@WulffDen

Жыл бұрын

Not now it’s bathroom ✨me✨ time

If it was $250 I'd think it's a much better product. You can buy the Steam Deck without waiting forever now.

@navygirlav2012

Жыл бұрын

People bitch too much. I bought mine for $300 and am extremely happy with it. I went with G cloud instead of Steam Deck because it's battery life is way better.

@hyper_based

Жыл бұрын

$150*

@EduardoLopez-tged

Жыл бұрын

@@navygirlav2012 battery life , more comfortable, way better screen. If you only want to do cloud gaming, this is the way to go. If your a pc gamer, then yea steam, its literally the only device for that.

@navygirlav2012

Жыл бұрын

@@EduardoLopez-tged I'm not paying a bunch of money to play on a crappy little device when I have a nice lappy that I can take anywhere.

@EduardoLopez-tged

Жыл бұрын

@@navygirlav2012 if you don;t want to pay 300 for a niche product, I completely agree with you. But its not a crappy device, its build quality and functionality at what it is designed to do is actually quite incredible. I played on my laptop (cloud gaming not pc) as well but its just not as comfortable an experience. It works..... but I don't want a solution that works, I want something that excels at gaming and this device does. I have done more cloud gaming in the week I have own this then I did for Months of having game pass. But again asking someone to shell out 300 is rough and if you don't want to, power to you.

Underrated use case is local streaming. Very low input latency and significantly less artifacting and streaming hiccups compared to cloud streaming. I do most of my handheld gaming at home anyway so honestly I've been enjoying this more than my Steamdeck. Way nicer screen w/ 16:9 aspect ratio, Haven't even looked at my PS5 through my TV since I got it. Played the Mw2 campaign and about 15 hours of Tiny Tinas Wonderlands on it so far.

@RandomPlaceHolderName

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, local streaming is all I'd do with this device. But at $350, I think I'll just macgyver a tablet/controller combo.

@RegularRetro

Жыл бұрын

@@RandomPlaceHolderName it’s a niche device for sure. The perceived value by the customer really hinges on whether they are already into cloud gaming to begin with. This is a devices for people already sold on cloud gaming, it’s not going to sell people on cloud gaming at $350 though.

@bradphillips780

Жыл бұрын

Yep. I use it to remote play my PS5 and Xbox Series S at home. That's a I use it for and it's been amazing.

@EduardoLopez-tged

Жыл бұрын

@@RandomPlaceHolderName I tried this from every angle, I have iphone 13 pro and pixel 7 , and ipad mini. I have play with razer kisi on both, controller on my ipad mini, and laptops. Honestly at the end of the day, I just didn't find myself cloud gaming (or remote play) nearly as much as I wanted. Cobbling together a janky switch lite or having to play with my tablet/laptop on the table (rather then right in front of me in my hands) just isn't great when all you want to do is play on a whim. I agreed with you about the price but after exhausting all this I said fuck it and bought it (best buy has it for 300). I LOVE this thing, i was ready to try it and maybe return it. But I am keeping it, cloud gaming is so much better on this, it loads fast, no latency, the screen is beautiful, and its the most comfortable way to hold. I play BL3 for hours on it no problem rather then the 20min i could tolerate it on my phone (due to screen size and comfort). This build quaility is leagues above everyone else, honestly give it a try.

@RandomPlaceHolderName

Жыл бұрын

@@EduardoLopez-tged It's a solid device but you seem to have money to throw around. I personally can't justify $300 just for cloud gaming on the couch or in bed. That said, I did get a refurbished Tab S6 Lite for ~$140. It's been a solid experience with my 8bitdo Pro controller. I just prop the tablet up on the coffee table, back of the couch or my nightstand. Hardly ideal but it works well with a 10" screen.

14:13 by the way, the Steam Deck has been readily available for a few weeks now lol

Bob you can actually switch it to the default android UI, but it's a bit buried in settings. Also one limitation that is a bummer is that you can only have the MicroSD be Fat32 format, so you can't have any files/Roms that are bigger than 4gb for a single file.

@AlejandroFerrariMc

Жыл бұрын

Weird, since android has supported exFat, for quite some time now.

@mdariff006

Жыл бұрын

I guess that is the way Logitech make this handheld to work/function, the SD card slot only fat32 format🤔🤦 only 64 gb internal memory, price so high 😱 and using 720g, my Odin more powerful than this

@johnsducks9816

Жыл бұрын

Dang I didn't know it was only fat32, so many complete dealbreakers for this thing I wouldn't even buy it for $200

I paused on the calendar screen shot and was not disappointed. Good luck with that shake weight 😂

That calendar was really packed. The 30 minute bathroom time is the most relatable though!

I would like to see Logitech make an upgraded version with the same SoC as the Razer handheld for $300 and then discount the old one for $199.

@mauricionarcia2015

Жыл бұрын

199 gets you a Nintendo switch maybe 99 or 149 max everyone to nice getting robbed

@mauricionarcia2015

Жыл бұрын

300 gets you a Xbox series s next gen might as well save an get PS5 or X

@greenprotag

Жыл бұрын

@@mauricionarcia2015 Home consoles are not equal to portables in the same way that a desktop is different from a laptop.

@greenprotag

Жыл бұрын

@@mauricionarcia2015 The switch and Android handhelds don't really share market space. A switch needs a TON of work to do what a tablet does and it is still clunky. Out of box, purpose built android phone/tablet/ Handheld has a operating system that is appealing to the emulation community and has tons of native and non native options that are VERY easy to run.

@mauricionarcia2015

Жыл бұрын

@@greenprotag Nintendo switch your comparison is strange but I was focus on value money spent well might as well get a steam they start at 399

I love Bobs skits for his sponsors

I'm not kidding when I say you're the only person I LOVE to watch ads for. Your most replayed spot is your ad. LOL

If this was $199 it would replace my Retroid Pocket 3 that I just got. There is no way I'm spending $350 for this.

your the only youtuber I don't click past the sponsor part for love it!

sometimes I watch your videos only to see your advertising and sponsor part. makes me laugh a lot you're good you're real good bro. I swear you are my favourite KZreadr all time. love and respect from Germany.

Bob - you are a beast. Keep up the great content! Much love.

I love the attention to detail! 2:59

Bro it doesn't matter what you post anymore I just see your notification and click now. your content is just banger after banger these days. It always impresses me how much quality is packed into each video. Your love for your craft just clearly shines through your work and it's inspiring as hell!

I'm waiting to fish it out of the bargain bin! Also, I was of understanding that there was a "tablet mode" you could access in this so you could get a more vanilla Android! Can't seem to find how to access it though!

@Lumn08

Жыл бұрын

You’ll be waiting a while then. They’re in no hurry to discount this thing, because with the amount of promotion it’s getting people will inevitably buy it even at that price.

@StormsparkPegasus

Жыл бұрын

@@Lumn08 This thing is a scam for even a third of what they're charging. It would only be worth it if it were exceptionally cheap, and only then as an emulation device. The "official purpose" of the device is a scam.

@balls2bone

Жыл бұрын

@@Lumn08 I agree, but I'm in no rush! I am on a very low income, so is very low priority. And in honesty, I don't use the portables I have. And tend to only play Switch docked!

@RGGeek

Жыл бұрын

@@StormsparkPegasus No way. If it were $117, it would blow all the budget handhelds out of the water. I think you’re missing it’s beautiful 7” 1080p screen, which is its real selling point.

@theninjamaster67

Жыл бұрын

@@RGGeek I feel like people are really over looking the phone market comparison with these silly streaming tablet things cause there's a few phones you can pick up for cheaper then grab a detachable controller and still be under the price of this thing and have way more features like being able to take calls and text or use it on the go still online or take nice pictures with it etc while having similar or better specs.

Absolutely love the Persona & Catherine OST representtion in this video. :)

I know it defeats the purpose of a gaming handheld but when you set up the device you can select tablet mode which I believe allows you to swipe down and access the typical Android stuff.

I picked up the G Cloud over the weekend from my local Best Buy for $299, and I already love the device. The screen is big and amazing, while being lighter than the Switch Pro. It runs Emulator, and I LOVE streaming via Steam. It's shockingly good. I've been using it to go through Final Fantasy VII Remake on Steam, and like, save for some home router nonsense, the experince has been stellar. I really am glad I didn't listen to reviews, because all of them told me not to get this, but.. IDK.. I guess I am the audience for this.

@DataDietz

Жыл бұрын

I'm in your same boat!! I just ordered it but I am so sure that I'm the demographic for this device.

@kr1ptac

Жыл бұрын

Nobody mentions the battery life on this thing either, but I easily hit 12 hrs of battery when emulating gba! That alone and the ability to stream Steam locally is what sold me .

Never fail to amaze me with your advertisements, great work bob!!

Bob's ads are the reason I have a hard time sitting through other creator's sponsor reads

AT $200 I would consider. They are way off. Looks cool though.

I like that the Logitech ui has more character than the switch has after 5+ years of updates

Lmao at the end with the wrong sponsor shout-out

that "plots conspiracy against wood" entry got me laughing so hard

Well you can take "Watch G4TV" off your calendar if you need more room. RIP G4.

Great video I hate the device but according to eta prime in the settings menu you switch to tablet mode and the touch controls work etc

6:16 missed opportunity for Sony still complain about that every time it's mentioned.

Best Factor sponsor ad I’ve seen so far.

Not for that price, but this device could be for me: I hate playing on PC (I'll do it, but uncomfortably), love my Switch but not my joycons; and really love the cloud route of the game pass. Being able to play those games, like dishonored which I'm playing now, but portably would be really nice, even if it is just inside the house. Maybe... 150. 200 tops.

I thought it was strictly streaming, but still too expensive for what it is.

I bought the Retroid Pocket 3 based on your recommendation. Love it SO MUCH.

3:07 I really hope that wasn't frozen 😂

Anyone interested in this, I'd recommend looking into Ayn's Odin line. Or maybe GPD, but I'm not sure what they're charging for their newer redesign. But my Odin does everything this device purports to, without trying to style itself around streaming. Which it does just fine! I've streamed Game Pass and Luna, GFN, Stadia (RIP lol) and PS Plus via Shadow...which might sound weird to double stream, but I played a bunch of Bloodborne and Arkham Asylum that way. Emulators run up to that GameCube and certain PS2 level that this seems to. Also, as mentioned in the vid, Steam Deck. Honestly it's not even that hard to get the streaming stuff working. Except for PS Plus, that took me like 20 minutes. But for Game Pass and GFN, it's more or less just setting the browser to your steam library, and there's a couple commands you have to get to make it recognize the controller with the browser and lock to the streaming service's launcher. But most guides have those posted, so it's just copy/paste. Shouldn't take more than a few minutes to get going.

Great to see they're making Stadia portable now!

love your videos Bob!! I'll take all the emulation videos you can throw at me!

Omg I was searching and searching for a vid from wulff before I ordered mine this morning

I see a few reasons I'd want this. I trust Logitech MUCH more than a random new Hong Kong company like Ayn, and the form factor looks more comfortable than a Steam Deck. It seems pretty simple to mod/flash, it looks really good... honestly, I'd probably purchase this if I had the money right now. It's on sale for $299 for Black Friday, but I'm out of a job at the moment, but it's definitely on my radar. Thank you for the video, I wouldn't have looked into this otherwise!

@castor9907

Жыл бұрын

Just wait until you find out that Logitech partnered with tencent to make it

@SlyAceZeta

Жыл бұрын

@@castor9907 I'd primarily be concerned if Tencent had access to my personal data in some way. Manufacturing the thing in the first place, though, I don't have much of an issue with that.

If only it was 150 dollars and black

@matejamicic3037

Жыл бұрын

i prefer white consoles over black consoles

That sponsor approved "FUUU" got me good

Bob is a kind of cool uncle we all ever wanted in our very life's

The Steam Deck is $50 more and despite what was said in the video it is shipping almost immediately.

At this point I was just coming for the ad 😂. No interest in the product but the ad skits always kill me and this was one of the best yet! Bob deserves his own TV show.

$200 I think is where this should be, and even then, against the switch lite it's a hard sell

@biglevian

Жыл бұрын

Considering, that switch has expensive games, zero emulators and no cloud gaming, I don't think they are comparable at all, but I agree that even at 200€ it's a hard sell, when devices like the odin lite, Loki mini or even a retroid pocket exist. Even my 200€ phone is way more powerful (sd 860) and I got a kishi controller and a powerbank.

@guammy9973

Жыл бұрын

@@biglevian sure, switch has expensive games..but to be fair, it has inexpensive games as well...there's free to play, indie, retro (emulated), discounted, used games etc... And as far as emulation, there's hundreds of emulated titles on the eShop+switch online. And there's even some (unfortunate) cloud titles...lol. But I get what ur saying, walled garden n whatnot

"If they say it, it's illegal. If I say it, its a feature."

That dude THREW that box. 👏 wulf

My thought on ideal market would be for people that have to compete with a spouse, kid or roommate for TV time. Having a dedicated device to stream your local xbox to vs a phone or laptop would make for a better experience.

So glad my Ayn Odin finally came in yesterday after waiting 2 months.

When I got to the ad I almost hit like for the second time for that "Ya hungry" bit LOL I mean double likes Bob, not cancelling my like

lol the cc said "Host" when Bob started talking.

this should be around 150$ max

@RandomPlaceHolderName

Жыл бұрын

Yep. It's a tablet screen, cheap phone SoC and gamepad fused together. Nothing special.

Plot against Wood Plot against Zim Plot against other Bob 😂

I love the ads he does. I tried factor and hated it, but his ads are amazing

This is definitely something I'm not very interested in. Considering I have the Steam Deck and the RG552, my emulation needs are pretty much good to go. And if I'm wanting to do "Cloud Gaming", I can just do that on the Steam Deck with 0 issue. If anything, the only devices I'm interested in at the rate is an Ayn device (Odin, Loki, etc.), or an Aya device (Neo lineup, etc.) Past that? Nothing else can really beat what I already have.

In a world where things like the odin and steam deck didn't exist, sure this could do well. In this market what in god's name was Logitech thinking.

Absolute 10/10 peel, 100/10 for emulation rainbow. Bravo

I giggle at every "yA hUnGrY?!" every time.

Thanks for showing us some features.

lmao bob getting beat by a factor meal

Really expensive frozen dinners!? Factor sounds like a great product! 😂

I gotta admit, I chapped back 3 times to watch, "Ow! My eye!" again and again.

Could you map a stick press to Back when using Dolphin?

I’d pick this up for 200 if they added touch screen mapping for android games.

1:10 Hide yo kids, hide yo wife, and hide yo Kojima

Makes sense that they have a really good controller remapping considering the make keyboards and software for them

Subscription companies discovered microwave dinners...

"If I say it it's a feature" more like "if I say it, it gives Nintendo another reason to snub my applications"

I really hope hidey-o kojima is the name of his next full stealth game

Oh my! It’s Bobert from the Wulff Den podcast

@Kng__Wzrd

Жыл бұрын

3:16 bob “fuck” this man is spitting

You definitely made good pros and cons 🙏

I got one of these and I can say that it is a device I have mixed feelings on. At the price it starts at, you 100% may as well just get a Steam Deck. But it also….isn’t really the same kind of product. To me it kind of sits against things like the RG353 and other emulator handhelds. If this thing was $250, then it would be perfect

For $250, I’d buy it. At $350, a little out of my price range.

Basically what you said is wait for it to drop in price a good bit and by then people will have played around with it and optimized it and it'll be a good emulation device thanks BoB!

Just got my Odin, glad it's still the right choice 😄

lol the biggest crime in that video is that you don’t have lunch scheduled but you have one hour for coffee and one hour to shit, I mean, bathroom YOU time 😅

I see potential on this device along with ayn odin. Now if someone makes a handheld that is sold on stores and physical copies like switch o be even happier. ^^ I hope Logitech continues to improve this handheld.

I loved the title that Retro Game Corps used for his review: "Amazing, Overpriced"

the P5 menu theme caught me off guard ngl.

I have a feeling this is going to turn into a 99 dollar device and then everyone will jump on it

id love to see you review 8bitdo's new ultimate controller

Love you Bob hope you're having a great day

You can use the default android intact jts super easy and you get the option right from setup

How did you get ¾ through this video before briefly mentioning the Ayn Odin? It's definitely the closest competition, nevermind the OLED switch

It looks like a pretty neat device bit I have a poco f4 amd a gamesir, I'm probably set for hopefully when skyline releases

At least this device has a tablet mode to make it like bare android. All in all in a vacuum it's pretty good. However in the current market it's a little overpriced for what it is. On the plus side it's probably the best screen and ergonomics in its class.

@JGLCSW

Жыл бұрын

Does it have the Google Play store? Does it have a mic? If so, I'll buy one on fire sale.

@greenprotag

Жыл бұрын

@@JGLCSWmost of the videos I have seen do mention Google play works on this device just like a normal android tablet.

@JGLCSW

Жыл бұрын

@@greenprotag thanks for your reply.

@RegularRetro

Жыл бұрын

It's a solid device. As someone who owns way too many handhelds, including the Steamdeck and Odin Lite, the Logitech is by far the best streaming handheld. Playing modern games that make heavy use of the right analog stick on the Odin is extremely uncomfortable after about 10 minutes, plus they have a small range of motion making it an even worse experience for shooters. The Steamdeck I've found to honestly be a pretty poor streaming experience. Chiakis audio streaming is actual garbage and Steamlink that's built into the OS glitches out the frame rate on your games about half the time you use it and doesn't resolve itself without closing the game.. Gamepass is the only streaming service that I've found to be a comparable experience versus the Android counterpart.

You on got me on razer 🤣

Can we talk about how bob clearly burnt the shit out of that pasta??

Bob looks like a Jedi

There are key mappers apps in android that would allow you to set long press in the home button as BACK

I think for $200-$250 this would make more sense as when the razer edge releases it will demolish this as it basically has a snapdragon 8 gen 1 equivalent processor with 8gb of ram 128gb storage and wifi 6E and a 144hz AMOLED screen.

I just got Xbox game pass recently, but that's one of my biggest issues with it. Doesn't matter if I'm on the PC app or the android app, wired or WiFi, I always seem to get 720p or less while game streaming. Which has been bothering me a lot. I'm not sure if there's a fix or not, but I'd love to know

@timbo303official9

Жыл бұрын

You can always restart the game to get a different server.

@TheMysteryDriver

Жыл бұрын

How far are you from the Azure servers?

@joaomendes3907

Жыл бұрын

Idk How far is any of them servers from Portugal?

@TheMysteryDriver

Жыл бұрын

@@joaomendes3907 Spain I think

@joaomendes3907

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMysteryDriver then i can't phantom as to why i still get 720p. In GeForce now I still get 1080p60fps without hickups

This should be $199, honestly.

The D-pad reminds me of the one on the Nintendo Wii