Over ears are for noobs. Just go to a real music performance and appreciate this clear, clean, open sound. Even listening speakers in your room doesnt come close to a real live performance. Lets just stop listening to the music at all and go to a concerts 2-3 times a year.

@rohdger3390

Ай бұрын

Not gonna be possible, with the musician I listen to the most

Future Sharur: ears are for losers, you have only 2 whereas you have sound coming from all directions.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

no

@wahid-lg1kk

Ай бұрын

​@@Sharur1 come on.. You gotta do it, now

@malcolmvillanueva5689

29 күн бұрын

Hahahahaha

you're my fav comedy channel

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

cope

@zaza5820

Ай бұрын

@@Sharur1 no

@niccster1061

Ай бұрын

Ive spent literally thousands of hours measuring and tuning speaker systems. Iems will never come close. You can sit here and regurgitate the crap you read on reddit but the reality is that sharur is right about iems. If you're SERIOUS about audio, iems will never be acoustically adequate

@lileav

Ай бұрын

​@@niccster1061If there's anything, what would you recommend for cheap (

@jakubaugustyn9817

Ай бұрын

Only mr bean is better

thank you bipolar indian earphone man alexa remind me in 2 months to check if bipolar indian man has released 3 videos saying iems are good again and everything else sucks because he rediscovered foam tips 🙏🙏🙏

@3mar00ss6

Ай бұрын

I wouldn't say he's bipolar, he's just an over confident narcissist lol

It's time to cancel our apartments guys and move into the woods if need be

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

just use over ears

@donvittoriosierra

Ай бұрын

@@Sharur1 use them all its fine hahaha. The danger is the obsession in expecting perfection or at least always thinking that there can be perfection. I've wasted over 40 years of my life thinking that way and just learned to lighten up in the end. I used to be Sharur looking for the holy grail hahaha

Man my Truthear Novas JUST CAME IN 😭

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

rip

@Neucher

Ай бұрын

get 6xx

@chienbotrung7093

Ай бұрын

Sorry bro you're a loser now and so am i 😢

@luigismilazzo

Ай бұрын

And has you based your decision on a guy that's a literally living clickbait?

@giatoyama

Ай бұрын

@@luigismilazzo Of course, he was right about the truth ear novas being amazing, they blow my blessing 3’s out of the water

he finally understands...

bro went from citing science papers to getting emotional about soundstage on headphones 😆

Damn, are we on the endgame now? Waiting for sharur to get a girlfriend for peak enlightenment.

@RF-INF

Ай бұрын

If Z Reviews can get a girl then Sharur can, have faith Sharur.. i believe in you!

Are there any decent headphones or IEMs for under $500, other than the Truthear Nova, for use when the LCD-5 is out of reach budget-wise?

@Neucher

Ай бұрын

6xx

This tells me tomorrow's video will be "IEMs are the best for sound reproduction"

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

no

He finally got it

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

yes

have you tried crossfeed algorithms to help with soundstage for iem/headphones ? we all prefer speakers over iems but we have a spouse that don't want to hear our music when in the same room :)

@Sharur1

23 күн бұрын

doesn't help

Now I gotta sell my novas and get hd 650 😔

@Neucher

Ай бұрын

if you don't have speakers you probably want both

@giatoyama

Ай бұрын

@@Neucher I have speakers, but I can’t listen to speakers in the gym or during my morning walk

@RF-INF

Ай бұрын

@@Neucher What if i want you?

Have you looked into getting a Smyth Realizer?

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

yes but no

4chan will not like this

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

real

Obviously they are but its clear that some Chinese guy with glasses will knock on your door for sharing this fact with wider public. God knows what else he is capable of doing to maintain his grip on reality.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

?

God forbid you just help someone in such a desperate situation they have nowhere to sleep. That $5 might make or break your ability to get those $1000 headphones🤦🏽‍♂️

What would you bring with you when traveling/on vacation?

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

lcd-5

@nyverinorlyth9555

Ай бұрын

​@@Sharur1 To the beach too?

@zblus

Ай бұрын

@@Sharur1 whoa that's hardcore

Man spends 5k on headphones but ignores a homeless person for a couple of bucks. Says it all right here.

@Neucher

Ай бұрын

they are annoying

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

?

so can you give me your nova ?? plssss

What about using optimal audio spatialisation techniques?

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

3d audio is dumb

@pasi123567

Ай бұрын

Shouldn't it theoretically be possible to simulate any speaker/headphone setup though?

In my experience all headphones sound like mediocre trash at under 300 USD. While IEMs are already near their peak performance at that price range.

This is crazy, I just made a breakthrough with the Soundcore Space QC45 on analog this weekend, measured and made it sound much better in terms of imaging and detail compared to my dethroned Fiio Fh3. On the fun part, the best bass is still with the Fh3, even with the lack of tactility (all eq'ed a lot and measured personally). Edit: You value the soundstage aspect so naturally, you'll choose over-ears.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

just get lcd-5

How is the soundstage on the lcd-5?

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

very good for headphone

What about budget iems. Like around $50

Maybe you're right, but equally sucky are TWC for the time being. Hype4 is a genuine upgrade to AirPods Pro 2 for instance which sounds very muddy in comparison.

5:12 is there an EQ profile online we can download for the HD650?

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

i mean, you can just eq it yourself to lmg target with 5128 measurement

You're hurting my feelings.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

sad

It was just a matter of time when Sharur say “truthear nova is a complete garbage” :D

Whoa thanks. I never go outside because its either too hot or too cold. And theirs always lawn mowers and cars and stuff. What iems do you recommend for playing video games mainly and sometimes music/tv? I need iems so i can wear my glasses and my neck wont hurt from something heavy

I was a iem man, then I bought the Sennheiser HD506S and a zen dac v2 and now iem sounds so closefront to my head, no sound stage like the senn.

I told that items suck 5 years ago. Speaker>headphone>iem Iem sounds less fun despite having better fr than most of the headphones because of its poor soundstage and presentation.

i have the nova and a hd600 its definitely a compromise you might say hd600 has no subbass but what subbass nova has feels negligible not much tactility compared to what very little hd600 even tho its rolled off. It is definitely a use case basis at this point and speakers space will always be a problem like you said at your last few videos and yes we cant be the noisy neighbor in an apartment for sure.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

eq hd650

ok ok i feel you completely buuut, one thing they are GREAT for, is producing, and getting your low end to hit correctly.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

no

@land.1368

Ай бұрын

@@Sharur1 bro yes 😆

@skwirl865

13 күн бұрын

@@land.1368absolutely! Unless u have a studio facility that has a listening spot that an acoustician has treated the room for that spot, monitoring and mixing bass, especially in bass heavy genres like rap and r&b will be FAR more accurate and consistent with iems than monitors/speakers or even over ear headphones.

Then you can do a reference list for headphones at a price point?

What about flathead earbuds for soundstage? Always felt they rivaled open backed headphones in that department, plus they are more convenient to bring around and use.

@Neucher

Ай бұрын

they have no subbass

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

they don't add stage

@zblus

Ай бұрын

@@Neucher yes they don't, but neither do most open backed headphones

@zblus

Ай бұрын

@@Sharur1 are you saying old-school flathead earbuds don't have more soundstage than IEMs? The poor seal definitely makes them sound more open/larger soundstage. Unless you're using a different definition of stage

do a review of the xm5 with eq

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

sure

@PentaAudio

Ай бұрын

@@Sharur1 thanks man

Haha this is great. Really had me going! I didn’t realize it was comedy till he talked about stepping into a gym!

@Sharur1

19 күн бұрын

cope

What about the lacking bass in HD 650s? You can only EQ it up so much until it distorts - does it have enough bass for you?

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

i didn't find distortion to be an issue aside from linearity potentially

@CosmicMatcha

Ай бұрын

@@Sharur1 That’s good. How much do you boosting the bass on those?

There's is a difference with bass tactility where subwoofer > headphones > iems. However, for higher frequencies how much difference does the outer ear make in headphones and loudspeakers vs iems.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

if you plug your ear canals with your fingers or earplugs while listening to speakers, you can still hear sound

*Sharur touches grass once* Sharur: audio is for loosers. Just hear nature.

i love you sharour

No fuss for the modern man. True wireless overear headphones with active noise cancellation, or true wireless earbuds outside. Speakers inside.

IEM’s do suck! That said, Apple’s Spatial Audio is pretty convincing. Same with Sony’s version and even Windows 3D audio makes a decently convincing soundstage. IEM’s are glorified hearing aids and never were intended for critical listening. Music reproduction tier list: Speakers>Open back hp’s>In ear hp’s>Shitty bt speakers>IEM’s. I’ve never heard an IEM that isn’t 90% treble w/ 10% midrange. Not to mention, one slight mistake with gain and your hearing just aged several decades in one instant.

you're crazy but i totally agree with you, IEMs are the worst sound innovation to date. you also forgot to mention their garbage quality control, the failing rate on these things is unbelievable i lost counting how many IEM drivers have failed on me this must be by design. F these things.

This video is HILARIOUS. Let's count the hypocrisy, part by part: 1. You own the Nova, yet you rip them. If they're so bad, why do you still own them? If IEMs suck, why do you still have them? Why is the Nova -- which isn't that special and is tuned to the Harman IEM curve that you supposedly hate -- your poster boy for IEMs? 2. IEMs have less soundstage than an open-back. Uh, no shit, Sherlock: Most IEMs are sealed, so they'll have less stage by design. But hey, we could all go buy the HD 800S, which are a one-trick soundstage pony with shitty overall tuning, especially in the treble. There's more to headphone tuning than soundstage. 3. You cite the HD 650/6XX as an example of soundstage in an open-back. LOL. That model is great -- I love my 6XX. It also has some of the narrowest, three-blob stage of an over-ear, open-back headphone. 4. "IEMs suck for movement in a gym. IEMs are made for people on stage singing." So, Mick Jagger and Taylor Swift never move around on a stage while wearing IEMs? They're rooted to the stage? Ho-kay ... 5. You say you would rather listen to the Truthear Nova than wireless IEMs because all wireless IEMs sound like shit. Yet, the Truthear Nova is tuned to Harman, which you also say you hate in this video. So, what is it? I own over-ears and IEMs. Enjoy both, with use cases for both. This video is just straight-up trolling, as usual. Comic gold.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

you clearly didn't understand the video

@kellycny65

Ай бұрын

@@Sharur1 Nice try, Sparky: I understood every word. Guess I'm just another one of those "losers" who uses IEMs and over-ears and watches your channel for pure entertainment. Clicks are clicks in Trollville, right? LOL.

@georgeweah9717

Ай бұрын

On the end of the day, he is a child.

@zaza5820

Ай бұрын

​@@kellycny65imo with this video he tried to prove that he touches grass. not sure though

It didn't take long since the other video. One step closer.

I agree with Sharur - "good" IEMs are really annoying to wear, are vastly overpriced, and most importantly sound unrealistic compared to a good set of headphones and certainly to speakers. But wearing them does not make you a loser.

@Sharur1

25 күн бұрын

it does

I'm curious if you consider any closed-back headphone worthy. Thanks.

@zblus

Ай бұрын

Nah

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

idk

Personally, I haven’t found any form factor of producing sound to be obviously better than another. The highest resolving power I’ve ever heard is dml speakers (5W Dayton audio/foamboard). The best bass I’ve ever heard, Truthear Nova (with Qudilex 5K). The best midrange I’ve ever heard, Planar over ears. Most comfortable to wear, IEMs. Most modifiable , on ears. Best overall sound impression, still goes to the Truthear nova, beating over ear and on ear headphones for me. The content, your ears, and the listening volume matters for overall sound impression. I don’t really care about sound reproduction, which is what I assume you are talking about for this video. Yes, IEMs are really not good for natural sound reproduction, but can still sound good in the right context.

You should limit the number of about-faces you make to a certain level, it is hard to follow. Some not so long time ago you didn´t even get the concept of EQ. I am just happy that I almost never follow your recommendations at face value.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

what?

@susokraut3169

Ай бұрын

@@Sharur1 You were so opposed to the use of EQ for IEMs and headphones, probably because you did not understood it correctly.

Sharur, have you tried the Dan Clark Stealth or Expanse? You may enjoy those.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

stealth, yes, and it's bad

@lukerestlessstudios

Ай бұрын

@@Sharur1 Oh wow. What did you dislike?

@athiyan3367

Ай бұрын

@@lukerestlessstudios🤣over priced 😅

Thought you didn’t like eq and stuff should sound best right off the box?

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

No

@Neucher

Ай бұрын

there's no headphone that's good without eq

And what is about electronic music gaga and what’s about other types of music sly ? Poor guy can’t afford high end stuff

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

?

Try a cheap earbuds like ve monk. It sound like 💩 but leave the dynamic range as is and not a tube.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

nah

That's what happens when you don't hear any high end iem but judge them and use a cheap but "correct" graphing one.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

nah i've heard many kilobuck iems noob

@aurelian9817

Ай бұрын

@@Sharur1 heard and use are two different things. Try maybe some thieaudio stuff...

I get bored wearing iem, i only use em for gaming. While listening to music, i prefer speakers.

@skwirl865

13 күн бұрын

They’re unbeatable for gaming

All wearable sound reproduction devices are cope.

what species are you? reveal yourself Alien

IEMs still provide the easiest and best way to get a smooth and desired FR, while it´s definitely true that they never, by nature, can have a considerable soundstage. But there are people that favor an accurate FR over larger soundstage. It is a matter of priorities.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

flat on axis speakers have the most accurate FR, not IEMs

@susokraut3169

Ай бұрын

@@Sharur1 Flat on axis speakers are quite expensive and DSP is a hussle, a good IEM or a cheap one with EQ is straightforward.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

it sounds bad regardless of the EQ

@stizan9185

Ай бұрын

​@@Sharur1But to get that accurate fr from speakers you need to also invest in acoustic room treatment, I rather have headphones at that point

Praying for an over-ear with the upper treble of the nova, without the price of the lcd-5

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

moondrop cosmo

@PentaAudio

Ай бұрын

​@@Sharur1thank you

I can't tell if this video is a joke or not lol. I recently ordered the Nova's because im not a fan of wireless earbud sound quality (and having to charge the battery) and full sized headphones are too big for when im going out and also look silly in public. IEMs are perfect for me when im shopping, hiking, in bed, etc.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

it's not a joke

@sei_asagiri

Ай бұрын

@@Sharur1 its funny because just before this i was watching one of your videos (from a few months ago) where you said there is very little difference between headphones and IEMs from a listening perspective.

Let him cook

Do you think one day technology will progress to the point where we can make the sound from an iem be indistinguishable from a speaker other than bass tactility or something

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

no not really

Mr. T use to say: "I pitty the fool".

sharur is the definition of ☝️🤓 “erm actually”

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

cope

The 🦈has been jumped and the Fonz has survived

sharur I just bought the kinera celest wyvern abyss, call me a loser please.

@virginlamb1821

Ай бұрын

You are such a loser he won’t call you a loser

Yes, I am a looser. Because in your next KZread video all the loosers will be the big winners, because the title will be: „Why IEM are still great“

It's like we need multi-speaker holographic 3D binaural surround sound up in this bitch! But I'll take a few familiar melodies in my inner ear too, tech or no tech. Cope goes both ways.

but you said sound is subjective

5:59 are you... telling me to go outside? 😲😲

iems is horoscope for males

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

what

Sharur, I bought nova cause u like it. I literally used it twice. All other time I choose air pods pro 2. Probably, all earphones are joke. Nature sounds, concerts halls are better. Here, in Ukraine, we listen siren all day long. And I might said it’s amazing. Anyway, will w8t for your next best personal audio solution in the worlds. Appreciate you!

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

lcd-5?

Imagine saying this when you haven't even heard the Anole VX or Annihilator.

@Sharur1

29 күн бұрын

I have heard the Anole VX

@SpykerSpeed

29 күн бұрын

@@Sharur1 EQ it to Harman and listen to it using a quality desktop amp.

Any headphone or speaker recommendation under 300dollar?

@Neucher

Ай бұрын

6xx

@paco1022

Ай бұрын

@@Neucherhow abt closed back

ngl bro i think the only reason u havent dumped lcd-5 for ur speakers is because it costed 4.5k. headphones have even less use cases than iems, or atleast nothing a pair of speakers can't do. had you bought the DELIGHTFUL and ILLUSTRIOUS $900 MOONDROP COSMO you would've been solely using speakers

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

i bought lcd-5 after my speakers

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

because i didn't want to use shitty iems at my apartment

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

and i'm moving out of parents place again after summer so i'll be using lcd-5 mainly then

Dude I'm not a clown hahaha. I use IEMs not for shooting for the holy grail of sound reproduction though 😀 I quite enjoy my orchestra lite with small sancai tips. Its the smoothest affordable option I know but mostly for my DAP for when I go to the beach or somewhere to just chill.

@donvittoriosierra

Ай бұрын

Also I don't think the Harman target is an accurate target for simulating good speakers in a room. It may have the basic curve but not the fine grain. This is why I usually like something a little off and fine tuned and not exactly harman. And yes 2 speakers are not like realistic sound simulation but its fun stuff, more than iems with ear resonances thats for sure.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

orchestra lite is bad

@donvittoriosierra

Ай бұрын

@@Sharur1 hahaha but enjoying them is my only factor and I am not taking the thing as a reference. Tuning it with these small sancai tips just removes that upper bass tuck that I dislike so much in iems plus it doesn’t have a resonance peak when inserted deep enough in my ears. Those are the main unique factors that I like about them. Plus they look cool

@donvittoriosierra

Ай бұрын

But I know your point of frustration with iems. I kind of feel the same way when the mindset is to look for lifelike sound.

SRH440? FR too jagged?

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

not good

@asad210

Ай бұрын

@@Sharur1 What about the HD560S with EQ?

I don't understand the jokers commenting on this video. Every word within this 7 minutes 13 is pure facts

The problem is that you are treating Harman as the perfect target curve. While it's close to being perfect for most people, it will almost never be perfect for any individual. The Truthear Nova is a very good starting point because it matches Harman very well, so it will get you about 90% there. However, the last 10% can only be achieved with EQ. What I like to do is watch field recordings of natural sounds, such as someone walking down a street, people talking, a car passing by, a car beeping, birds chirping, wind blowing on tree leaves, the rain, waterfalls, etc. Our brain is very familiar with these natural sounds, so you will be able to identify any issues in the frequency response much easier than with music. These sounds are also very complex and will not sound correct on most headphones/IEMs without proper EQ. The recordings also tend to be very flat and accurate. You can try to EQ whatever you have so that these sounds are as close as possible to real life. Another solution is if you have flat speakers, you can try to match whatever else you have to those speakers. Headphones have their own advantages and disadvantages, and the same goes for IEMs, but IEMs are smoother and more consistent sounding. Once you EQ them, they will usually sound better tonally.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

just eq lcd-5

Why are the IEM headphones bad? The sound is unbalanced and bright, and why do reviewers love this type and do not mention its flaws (I use HyperX and did not face a problem with the sound)

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

?

cant wait for the iems>speakers>headphones sharur arc next month

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

cope

Sharur hit the other end of the bell curve and reached true enlightenment.

so give me that NOVA's Cable ....if it just garbage

Audiophile Sneako new ep

MOONDROP COSMO SUPREMACY

So your F ranking suddenly becomes S rank for all over ear headphones . Nice

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

No

So funny to imagine all artist/musician wearing headphones or worst speaker at stage because they think iem is for losers lmao

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

that's all they are for

ummmaaa sharur what da besta iem undrer half of tea?

BTW, you're right that IEMs have to be compromised in some regard but in-ears (or smaller audio devices) are definitely the future, though not wired. It's just so convenient to stick something in your ear and play sound and with more research we could have personalized audio that actually works. And IEMs are just easier to manufacture.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

it won't work

@TheModeRed

Ай бұрын

Unless the IEM could tap into your brain, it will never sound like speakers soundwaves vibrating throughout your body. It is possible to simulate the way you naturally hear sound with your ears, but not how you "hear" it from speakers with your entire body.

any headphone recommendation?

@Neucher

Ай бұрын

6xx

@KenjohBR

Ай бұрын

ad700x

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

lcd-5

@PentaAudio

Ай бұрын

cosmo

I love iem, but speakers are so gooood

I don't mind the presentation of IEMs at all honestly. I think in most cases, you can get better imaging (also due to isolation) in IEMs than on headphones. I actually feel like I'm inside the game when I use them for gaming and I only get startled by IEMs in that regard. Headphones in general have too many other compromises that make them fatiguing to listen to or they just have worse clarity overall.

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

just get lcd-5

best iem or ath-m50x

Is this satire?

@Sharur1

Ай бұрын

no

IEM or headphone f**** the stereo. So never spend a lot of money in it, and you find good neutral response headphone for good price akg 240mk2, akg 371, beyerdynamic 880, jbl tune 660 and in worst you go on rting and EQ after a little your headphone. For IEM used the Samsung akg type c 30€ and now the moondrop chu 2 cos very neutral and easy to clean filter cos sometimes hear more detail when i work on music, when i can't use my main monitoring like night But anyway when i use it, I always use soft like waves nx or 112db redline for recreate the cross over with the head dimension, it's only at this moment i find a good listenning experience. If it's to go outside , public transport or others just take jbl vibe 100tws it's cheap and neutral do the work to get good sound without cable issue.

"EQ is cope"

Listening to music is a disgrace