Black Knight: “Ok, I choose to be evil.”

@julitoxcastro8983

Ай бұрын

"I choose stabby stab"

@ryannathaniel9296

Ай бұрын

🤣 This reminds me of the last scene with Lord Shen in KFP2

@arnoldpham5223

Ай бұрын

@@ryannathaniel9296 “THEN I CHOOSE THIS!”

@jetengine9996

Ай бұрын

Sonic: "aw man" *goes super sonic and destroys him*

@julitoxcastro8983

Ай бұрын

@@jetengine9996 I'm afraid a serious lack of chaos emeralds is about to hit you in this game lol

Mephiles: **so proud of the Black Knight**

@CrystalDreamcast

Ай бұрын

Mephiles: welcome to the club of ‘Sonic Villains who have stabbed the main protagonist at least once’

Naruto therapy goes wrong

Sonic’s a friendly dude but he’s always willing to throw hands

“YOU GIVE me a choice?!?”

"Made Peace with enough enemies" eggman and Memphis has entered the chat

@IsaiahVance-nc1ow

Ай бұрын

knuckles, shadow, silver, blaze, merlina, chaos, gemerl, mecha sonic.....

@Breakaway-ic5gj

Ай бұрын

@@IsaiahVance-nc1ow None of those are evil though, but fair point

@IsaiahVance-nc1ow

Ай бұрын

@@Breakaway-ic5gj they WERE evil. thats the point

@IsaiahVance-nc1ow

Ай бұрын

or at least misguided

@76o90

Ай бұрын

⁠@@IsaiahVance-nc1ow I won’t really call any of the characters on this list as evil. *evil* and *villain* isn’t the right term for them. They never had any “evil” intentions. They were misguided and were brainwashed (I won’t exactly say brainwashed but idk lmao) into thinking that they were doing the right thing, and thought that it would lead to them doing good. They had pure intentions. Just because their views went against Sonic’s and turned them against him doesn’t make them evil. I’d rather call them antagonists, if anything. Eggman,

Zero hesitation on King Arthurs/Black Knights part

@demongamer_IX

Ай бұрын

makes sense.

Archie and Fleetway Sonic: What an idiot. Game Sonic: Glad I didn’t do that (eats chili dog)

@ChiefMischievous

Ай бұрын

IDW Sonic: ☠️

@ataladin87

Ай бұрын

Prime Sonic: "The king is so evil, why did he do that the 9th time?? He must try again" Me: "goodness are you?? Retarded??"

@Bleeperblopper497

17 күн бұрын

IDW is canon tho

@ataladin87

17 күн бұрын

@@Bleeperblopper497 sadly

Bro thinks he’s Steven Universe lol

@LintLicker625

Ай бұрын

If only sonic had a shield in that moment😂

@DopeGachaVideosProductions

Ай бұрын

@@LintLicker625 And buckets of suppressed trauma

@tjpikahero814

Ай бұрын

Now You Tell me??

@ModernAegis

Ай бұрын

All he's missing now is a cringey singing voice.

@0-LordHell-0

Ай бұрын

@@ModernAegis I thought i was the only one that found cartoon songs cringey

Sonic, not everyone is redeemable dude.

@deandresinclair

Ай бұрын

Agree

@criticalbuddy524

Ай бұрын

IDW Sonic*

@staticplays1871

Ай бұрын

I know this sounds obvious but he did kill the end. He was a force of nature so but was obviously intelligent.

@SSJacksWolf

Ай бұрын

@@staticplays1871 He killed the end to protect Sage and Eggman, of all people. Like, I understand Sonic is friendly, but Frontiers made Sonic into a simp.

@maryafantalia8614

Ай бұрын

​@@SSJacksWolfAbsurd. The End is a deity that threatens the entire universe, normal Sonic kills it, as before! What is the interest of this point!? Frontiers is one of the best interpretations of Sonic! What's wrong with you to pretend it's different from before?! His empathy is at its peak, and yet he is still ready to do bad things when it takes, but at the same time, he knows when it's time to ask questions! You should be ashamed to criticize Frontiers Sonic while the really bad Sonic we've got was from 2010s!

It seems that Sonic no longer remembers that he is King Arthur

Someone had to say it. Based. I'm already seeing an avalanche of IDW fans crying in the comments 💀

@videogollumer

Ай бұрын

I'm an IDW fan, and I have wholeheartedly agreed on this matter for a while. What kept me around were his friends being the actual heroes. Thankfully, Sonic saw the error of his ways in Issue 55, and Issue 61 proved that it stuck.

@ryannathaniel9296

Ай бұрын

Most of them can't accept any form of criticism launched against the comics. All while those same people would shat on other Sonic media without a second thought

@ChiefMischievous

Ай бұрын

I saw it myself and they are already throwing fits like little babies.

@Peasham

Ай бұрын

​@@ryannathaniel9296Oh I'd adore actual criticism of the comics, yet "Sonic is literally Steven Universe" is by no means it.

I mean I feel like it's a bit of a strawman given that Sonic has made it clear he hates Tyrants. Only reason he gave Eggman a chance at all was because he DID see what good Eggman could do as Mr. Tinker.

@Roark787

Ай бұрын

I can understand both sides of the argument. On one hand, I can agree with Sonic wanting to give people a second chance to be a better person and not just go gunho on every potential badguy. On the other hand, I agree with people who are angry that he just let's those who've done atrocious things go, via Eggman and the Metal Virus. I'm not saying he has to want to just straight up KILL Eggman on the spot, but at least make him content with putting him in a cell.

@ryannathaniel9296

Ай бұрын

What else could be more tyrannical than forcing animals to work for you (flickies) or literally taking away other people's free will? (Metal Virus)

@ryannathaniel9296

Ай бұрын

Plus, Eggman only became Mr. Tinker when his *entire memory is wiped out*. He's pretty much a different person than the tyrannical Ivo Robotnik everyone knew if

@ryannathaniel9296

Ай бұрын

F0rcing animals to work him and taking other people's free w1ll is not tyrannical enough for you?

@concordiaharmony2302

Ай бұрын

@@ryannathaniel9296 Certainly, and sonic himself shows frustration that Eggman chose to STILL go even knowing how happy he was as Mr. Tinker. Eggman himself admits how peaceful the life was. Hell, this isn't out of character for Sonic. In Sonic and the Black Knight, remember that after stopping Merlina he STILL shows her kindness and understanding even when she tried to kill him and lock the world into a stasis. Sonics philosophy is about letting people live freely as they wish. And if that freedom should interfere with other people's freedoms, he's gonna stop it plain and simple.

Sonic only let Eggman go because he lost his memories and was a different person. And Surge was kidnapped and brainwashed into who she is now. When it comes to his other enemies, Sonic doesn’t try to reason with them. Unless it’s a Knuckles or Blaze type situation, where they’re not actually evil.

@TheLegendaryDonutKing

Ай бұрын

I will admit though, they made idw Sonic a bit too preachy. Sonic’s actions should speak louder than his words.

@hype5456

Ай бұрын

Metal Sonic:

@Peasham

Ай бұрын

You say that like he wasn't beating Surge's ass while trying to talk to her lmao, the only instance where he doesn't beat someone's ass before trying to redeem them is when it's an innocent person (Tinker).

@ChiefMischievous

Ай бұрын

​@@TheLegendaryDonutKing IDW Sonic will never shut up and it's annoying.

@shardsoftime0952

Ай бұрын

He literaly let metal sonic go...

It's even more accurate to black knight since it's showing the cutscenes instead of the gameplay

1. Now that i think about it, Sonic And The Black Knight is the only Sonic Game that's not referenced on the IDW Comics 2. I respect Sonic's decisions but from my point of view, the villains in these comics really have nothing to learn. The one who should learn the lesson there is Sonic. He should learn that in the world there are people who no matter how much does he know or how many times he had talked to them, they will never change, they will not want to listen and they will only continue causing chaos.

@ryannathaniel9296

Ай бұрын

1. It's the only Sonic game that could significantly poke holes into many of the writing decisions in the comics. Retconning the story in that game would also never work because many of it's fans would immediately recognized and jump on it (like this comment section)

@awakeningofevolutiontheiro1057

Ай бұрын

And he learnt that the hard way in issue 56 where Surge almost killed him by electrocuting him in water as he almost had a cardiac attack. For he could die if the Dynamo Cage on Surge didn't break apart.

@jamiegioca9448

Ай бұрын

It actually is referenced, by the way Blaze describes Sonic’s spirit to him when he was amnesiac: “He was as free as the wind. He had no master, but he fought for anyone and everyone” or something along those lines

I get that IDW is trying to make sonic an understanding kinda hero that shows mercy and all, but they're doing it TOO MUCH

@user-vt6dd4kz5t

Ай бұрын

They really didn't they only made him do that with surge and mr.tinker that's all he only did this with those that he believes they can do good that's all.. He didn't do the same thing when it came to dr.eggman,Starline,zavok,neo metal sonic etc.. This guy however took it easy out of context because IDW sonic isn't that stupid to do something like this everysingle time

@criticalbuddy524

Ай бұрын

@@user-vt6dd4kz5t -🤓

@ChiefMischievous

Ай бұрын

I hate that type of hero

@Armani0326

Ай бұрын

@@user-vt6dd4kz5t idk what you've been looking at but Sonic's been sparing almost every villain so far in IDW, and every time he did it led to even more trouble later in the comics I get that Sonic has his own pov. When it comes to giving people second chances and all, but even Sonic should know when something or someone is too dangerous when kept unchecked Its like Batman but without the dark and brooding mood, he never actually puts a stop to the villains, especially Joker for some reason

You have incurred the wrath of so many in the internet over this video, and I am all for it. Nerd fights are the best to witness.

@ChiefMischievous

Ай бұрын

Yay

I think this video shows why I like Sonic's characterization in Black Knight.

@ChiefMischievous

Ай бұрын

It leagues better than meta era and IDW sonic

@videogollumer

Ай бұрын

Because he was pragmatic as well as optimistic?

@Peasham

Ай бұрын

You mean the game wherein his entire personal philosophy and thought process was driven by freedom, wherein everything he did was to maximize the freedom of everyone around him including the villain? I totally didn't just describe both IDW and Black Knight Sonic there!

@videogollumer

Ай бұрын

@@Peasham Except the villain wasn't Eggman in Black Knight!

@Peasham

Ай бұрын

@@videogollumer I'm glad we agree that Black Knight Sonic and IDW Sonic's philosophies are entirely logically consistent!

Inaccurate; Sonic isn't wearing an insufferable smug expression and the colors aren't washed out

I don't care if it isn't funny to Twitter, it is well-done and enjoyable animation

Steven Universe: You're doing it wrong, man!

This is such an underrated game. The songs With Me and Live Life *SLAP*

@DemonDethchase

Ай бұрын

With Me needs to be brought into the symphony setlist. Especially with Adrienne Cowan on board.

*Lady of the Lake:* How did it go? *Sonic:* He stabbed in the chest. *Lady of the Lake:* What did I say would happen? *Sonic:* He would stab in the chest.

I saw alot of the discourse on this animation. I agree with what you are saying. On even ground with Merlina, it was a discussion. On a high ground against Surge, it was condescending preachiness.

@Peasham

Ай бұрын

Yeah, that's the point, and it comes back to bite him in the ass.

Fleetway and Archie Sonic: And what did we learn?!

Written and Directed by Ian Flynn

@derple8524

Ай бұрын

Oh, now I see why people don't like him

@Taypokemon

Ай бұрын

@@derple8524you mean to tell me after years of writers who literally knew nothing about sonic and just made up random stuff and ruined basically every characters personality. You guys don’t like Ian because sonic doesn’t immediately try to kill the person they just met.

@charmingmagican9821

Ай бұрын

@@Taypokemon welcome to the sonic fanbase

@maryafantalia8614

Ай бұрын

​@@TaypokemonTrue, people complain about a slightly too merciful Sonic instead after having a jerkass Sonic during 10 years!

@spaceace6475

Ай бұрын

​@@TaypokemonMaekawa is the bar for a lot of fans. Not just in terms of plot, but specifically how he has a lot of the characters express themselves with a lot of the more open ended, shonen style/anime-isms the series had. Flynn isn't cutting it, in that regard. Whether it's simply cultural differences or even because he doesn't want to write them in that fashion, it's valid to not like his writing for that. He's not awful though, and has some neat ideas. It's very much like One Piece the Anime/Manga vs One Piece Live Action; it gets the general broad strokes but sands down or over explains aspects that don't really need it, depending who you ask.

I'm not going to deny Sonic is too preachy in IDW, but I feel like people take it out of context sometimes. The reason he pulls this on Eggman is because he saw the potential good in him because of Mr. Tinker, which to his credit is not entirely misplaced given how Eggman treats Sage in Frontiers. With Surge, he saw that she was a victim, someone who was abused and put into circumstances that nobody would reasonably want. He didn't pull this with Neo Metal Sonic, or Starline, or Zavok. So far he's only pulled this with people he thinks *can* do good. I get why this upsets people, and I certainly hope they tone it down in later issues. But I think people exaggerate it just a bit.

@youalreadyknowwhoitis3544

Ай бұрын

Out of curiosity, what good did Metal Sonic do when he let him escape

@esteban8471

Ай бұрын

@@youalreadyknowwhoitis3544 I could be technical and say he helped during the Metal Virus, but in all seriousness, Sonic thought Metal could grow to be good. He knows Metal Sonic is smarter than the average Badnik. There's literally a whole game centered around his AI evolving past Eggman's programming. Sonic just severely underestimated what Neo said about Eggman removing the rebelliousness from his programming. If Metal Sonic was thrown into a situation like Mecha Sonic's, he might have changed. But we can't know for certain. I'm not going to deny it was a horrific gamble, but in Sonic's defense he didn't know Metal was going to be what brought Eggman's memories back.

@youalreadyknowwhoitis3544

Ай бұрын

@@esteban8471 And that game you’re referring to is Sonic Heroes, correct? The one where Metal Sonic becomes a monster and tries to kill everyone and take over the world?

@esteban8471

Ай бұрын

@@youalreadyknowwhoitis3544 Yes. That's why I brought up Mecha Sonic, a fellow Sonic doppelganger robot who also grew past his programming and ended up becoming a good guy. If Metal was put in the same situation as Mecha, maybe things might have been different. Or maybe Metal would have stayed evil. I really can't tell you for certain.

@youalreadyknowwhoitis3544

Ай бұрын

@@esteban8471 You can tell for certain because Metal DID grow past his programming in Heroes and he still wanted to kill Sonic and friends. If he didn’t, Eggman wouldn’t had to reprogram Metal Sonic.

Sonic, stop watching Steven Universe!

And thats the problem with idw's sonic

@taraungoogle8482

Ай бұрын

Talk no Jutsu only works in Naruto or some anime 😅

@ChiefMischievous

Ай бұрын

Yes

And that's why IDW Sonic is divisive, at best.

Arthur was not having it, he chose violence✨

Dang, why can't Sonic just be the cool dude who's just gotta do what he's gotta do instead of this Superhero wannabe? His character was so simple, now we got people writing lengthy paragraphs defending this "perfect" idw characterization of Sonic, which makes things even more complicated

@ChiefMischievous

Ай бұрын

Yeah IDW Sonic sucks But from what I had heard he got better

@Peasham

Ай бұрын

Superheroes don't beat up their villains and then give them the freedom to change, on top of that his IDW characterization is quite literally the only way for him always sparing his game villains to be consistent, the only actual difference between the two is that IDW Sonic explained himself and game Sonic never did.

@igirjei3717

22 күн бұрын

⁠@@Peashamactually I disagree with the "him always sparing his villains" part. Sonic doesn't care what his enemies do with their lives, it's not his problem. Cream in episode 1 of sonic X said it best: sonic doesn't "get in eggman's way", he just tries to stop eggman from doing the bad things he likes to do In sonic heroes, sonic reads the threatening message from eggman at the start of the game and looks at it like an invitation to a party, and at the end of the game, after beating neo metal, he just bounces, telling him to let him know when he wants a rematch. Sonic is more concerned with doing what he wants (which, as it happens, is always the "right" thing to do (assuming it's not purely recreational)) than bringing justice upon his foes. He doesn't think himself better or worse than anyone because he doesn't care, but if he sees someone doing something he doesn't like, he's gonna have something to say about it.

@Peasham

22 күн бұрын

@@igirjei3717 I'm not sure what your point is here in relation to what I wrote

@igirjei3717

22 күн бұрын

@@Peasham my point is that you said IDW's characterization is "quite literally the only way" for it to make sense, and I responded by telling you that it's not, and it was perfectly in character before

I like that Arthur's textures are low resolution 😭

Yeah this is my problem with IDW Sonic sometimes lol, but I do get it, it’s for story purposes They need villains to make conflict

@videogollumer

Ай бұрын

Yeah, but it made SONIC look like the villain, while his friends were the real heroes.

@ChiefMischievous

Ай бұрын

@@videogollumer that's how I felt

Sonic gave King Arthur a chance to turn over a new leaf, but he blew it by murdering him.

IDW Sonic has become the Steven Universe of the franchise.

Now we just need Black Knight Sonic and Surge.

@videogollumer

Ай бұрын

Who would she be, Sir Kay?

@ryannathaniel9296

Ай бұрын

@@videogollumer Well, there's no shortage of Knights of the Round Table. Pretty sure one of them could be fitted for Surge.

@ChiefMischievous

Ай бұрын

Yes that would be so perfect!

@shucaybkarie1389

16 күн бұрын

Great idea

No disrespect to any creators/writers/fans, but if they are going to keep saying that IDW Sonic is the same Sonic from the games, then he needs to be written and characterized like Game Sonic. To those who say Game Sonic is already an inconsistent character, none of the shifts in personality from game to game (especially in Japanese) are as contradictory as IDW Sonic. The same complaint applies to Sonic Prime. Game Sonic does not have principles/chivalry/code he does things on a whim. Game Sonic can be forgiving/not kill and be merciless/kill becausehe has nuance. Game Sonic would not believe Eggman or Metal would change of their own free will. Game Sonic is ok with being a bad guy and is stated to not think of himself as a hero. Game Sonic can put up and shut up like he did with Infinite/Biolizard/Solaris/Dark Gaia/The End/The Zeti/Black Arms/Erazor/King Arthur. Not once did he worry about their freedom or potential to reform or fight/argue with anyone else over that. IDW Sonic said he has principles. He's written like a comic book superhero, so he's against killing he believes that Eggman will change and expected Metal to change. IDW Sonic feels like a modified Archie Sonic more in line with the Games, but it's still not accurate. IDW Sonic also feels too meta with Surge trying to be friends with her because that's how almost every rival to Sonic ends up. For those who think that these principles are a good flaw or makes good character development, Sonic is not going through any character development because he is a mostly static mascot character and they would never put such development in a tie in comic over a game. It's not like the writers want or can have Sonic suddenly be ruthless or change drastically. As for principles being a flaw, Sonic already has flaws they were shown in the Unleashed opening, the storybook games, and Frontiers.

@hydrocityshark

Ай бұрын

Nailed it right on the head.

@EntertainingHedgehog

Ай бұрын

Right?

@EntertainingHedgehog

Ай бұрын

I agree, and some actually believe this is consistent. 😭

@Peasham

Ай бұрын

I love how you say inconsistencies between games don't matter but then completely dismiss his in-game characterization to say he does everything on a whim when multiple games lay out that he actually DOES have principles he consistently follows, at least within the context of the individual games. Regardless, Sonic has NEVER killed a sentient being, this isn't something you can point to as him having done in the games as it'd simply never happened, and in this context not only has IDW not changed his characterization, it made SENSE of it, taking his stated principles from Black Knight and applying them logically to all his actions in the other games. It's really funny how you imply that IDW Sonic just.. doesn't fight his enemies, or something, "Game Sonic can put up and shut up" and all that, when that's literally consistently how IDW Sonic acts, never once not fighting someone who is a danger to others, him only not fighting Tinker and initially not fighting Surge because neither were a danger to others, with Tinker being helpful to his community and being a genuinely good person no less, with him fighting Surge the second she became a danger to others and him intimidating Surge into not stepping out of line when she comes back "reformed" as he in fact doesn't just blindly trust people and knows not to blindly trust people who've shown themselves capable of hurting others maliciously. Further, no, the only Sonic that's written as a comic book superhero is movie Sonic, what with his love of authority and the upholding of laws, whereas IDW and generally game Sonic is the exact opposite, him holding only disrespect for authority and breaking any and every law he sees fit, especially as IDW Sonic's outlook is him valuing freedom above all else, him fighting all of his villains because they jeopardize the freedoms of others, with him absolutely willing to fight governments to do so. Game and IDW Sonic don't care if laws are broken, they care if people get hurt, and you can call that a hero, but it ain't a superhero. Also, uh.. you know IDW Sonic's flaws, him letting villains go, are present within the games completely consistently, right? In every game with a sentient main villain Sonic never once kills them, this isn't a new flaw present within IDW Sonic, this is a flaw from all the games that IDW points out and criticizes. The only thing IDW adds is a consistent logical basis for Sonic's flaws, it doesn't add new flaws, and managing to ground a cartoon character with real principles and ideology actual people have is, I'd say, pretty impressive.

@EntertainingHedgehog

Ай бұрын

@@Peasham I don't know, I mean.. I can tell the differences between the two. They're not very similar. 😭😕

Dang! He chose evil! XD You did a miraculous and magnificent job on this animation, PixelRush!

Sonic, you did killed the Black Knight, so.... You had it coming...

Yeah, sums up sonic nowadays. He's better then how he was back in the "meta" era (2010's - 2020), but it's still not great. Instead of taking actions and being the fastest and the second coolest thing in the universe, he's just a motivational talker with little action. Yes, sonic says motivational things here and there, but he's more of gotta do things quickly guy. He has little time to talk, and so he keeps on running. Also, they should just fix/lean more to things in nowadays sonic like: Nature vs Technology Freedom The real sonic doesn't make fun of others, except for knuckles. And when does, he's talking in serious tone with serious altitude (except for k n u c k). The real sonic doesn't weightlessly reference his past. The real sonic says jokes that only fit the his current situation. Sonic looks "ok" nowadays. He used to look like the second coolest thing ever. Sonic doesn't sound like he used to. etc.

@Peasham

Ай бұрын

Ah yes, because surely IDW Sonic just stands around doing nothing but talking and totally doesn't do motivational speeches as he's beating his opponent's ass, this is very much a true thing that happens in the comics.

@NoWay-hp5km

Ай бұрын

The reason why sonic treats knuckles differently is, sonic is freedom incarnate, knuckles is order incarnate. Makes sense why they but heads.

@ChiefMischievous

Ай бұрын

Yeah IDW Sonic is so annoying

The sword was so powerful that it glitched sonic.

Peak Sonic characterization.

Sonic, you need a villain to destroy evil

See the conclusion of the Zeti Hunt arc to see what IDW Sonic would ACTUALLY do in this situation

@rynobehnke8289

Ай бұрын

This is a rather strange thing actually in that Ian writes Sonic on a near consistent bases to hate Zavok far more than Eggman. Like he just lets Eggman go but Zavok and his goons get a 1 way trip to a giant open air prison. This is actually part of why the big talk in issue 50 was a complete crap shoot because IDW Sonic already was shown to be willing to put people into prison and so dramatically restrict there freedom twice already (never forget the Skunks in issue 3) Exclusively Eggman and Metal Sonic get to be Evil to the max and be treated lightly by Sonic. Which makes very little sense really and almost feels like that is just Ian's fanboying over Eggman insuring nothing to bad happens to him (because Evan's Sonic was fine in having Eggman explode in a big away at the end of Urban Warfare).

@theAmazingJunkman

Ай бұрын

@@rynobehnke8289 Except that’s not what happened at all. Sonic let Eggman go because he wasn’t Eggman anymore. Eggman had ACTUALLY changed, unlike times in the past where he was only pretending. He would have stayed that way if Starline hadn’t brought him back. In issue 23 Sonic tries to reason with him, having seen the good person he was, and Eggman even finds himself reminiscing for a bit. Of course, Eggman refuses still, and then Sonic says he’s gonna lock Eggman up. So no, Sonic is not “soft” on Eggman in the IDW comics. Nor is he especially hard on Zavok, who WAS locked up until Starline busted him out.

@ryannathaniel9296

Ай бұрын

@@theAmazingJunkman Metal Virus go brrrrrrr

@rynobehnke8289

Ай бұрын

@@theAmazingJunkman What made you think I was referring to Sonic meeting Mister Tinker? I was more so thinking on issue 32 were he just let Eggman flee, same with Sonic and Eggman at the start of Zeti Hunt. Both times could Sonic easily have snatched Eggman but didn't. Also Zavoks first capture happened while Sonic was with amnesia in Blaze world so no idea why you bring that up.

@theAmazingJunkman

Ай бұрын

@@ryannathaniel9296What about it? Eggman only got away in the end because there was too much going on for anyone to notice him. They didn’t LET him get away. And besides, they wouldn’t have won without him.

someone was have to made this thank you so much

Man now i know why some people don't like IDW sonic they turned him into a pacifist glad sonic learned his lesson for the past events.

@user-vt6dd4kz5t

Ай бұрын

Fr plus he's not that merciful fans making out to be he only did this whole merciful thing with mr.tinker and surge who believed they can have a second chance to be good this is not out of character. Plus he didn't do the same thing with dr.eggman(when he turned evil again),Starline,y,the deadly six and neo metal sonic... Heck in IDW super sonic one-shot gigantic zavok without a second thought! And beat him to the ground So he's not that merciful fans making out to be

You can’t blame him because he was given the choice to do what he wanted. Sonic can’t blame anyone else but himself

At first I didn't get it, but then I remembered all the points you made in your last video. It's _wild_ how accurate this is.

@user-vt6dd4kz5t

Ай бұрын

No it really isn't he only do this entire negotiation thing and giving a second chance to surge and Mr tinker He didn't do the same thing with zavok,dr.eggman(when he turned evil again),zavok, deadly six,Starline and neo metal sonic hell during the metal virus when he turn super with no second thought no hesitation he one-shot gigantic zavok and beat him to the ground..so no this guy's just took it way out of context just to get some attentions and slandering IDW sonic because the toxic fans like him don't like the way sonic is written.

@igirjei3717

22 күн бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@user-vt6dd4kz5tfor one, I'm gonna skip ahead in your reply and guess that you might be the toxic one. I don't follow his social media or anything but I don't think he's gone swinging out the gate with an "EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS TOXIC" or accused anyone of anything. I could be wrong, and if I am, I implore you to prove it Anyway, Mr Tinker made sense and was entirely in character, metal sonic and surge def would've been handled differently by game sonic. Game sonic has no sympathy or respect for metal, so letting him go made no sense. The deal with surge... sonic was treating her like the villain of the week after she info dumped him on exactly *all* of her issues with him, and it doesn't help that she's actually *right* about her gripes with sonic Surge's existence is fundamentally impossible if we used 2000s sonic characterization, but let's pretend it's not and I'll adjust the interaction to what I think should've happened: Sonic would express actual sympathy. He'd understand why she's upset with him and not condemn her for it, but he would *also* make it clear that he's not gonna compromise his beliefs for anyone or any reason. If surge asks him why he does what he does, sonic would just tell her that he doesn't really think too hard about it, he just does what he thinks is right Again, Surge fundamentally wouldn't exist with 2000s sonic, but I hope my attempt to bring him a bit more in line with who he should be helped to show the difference

Yeah sonic i dont think hes having it 😅😅😅

Here lies Sonic. He ran out of Rings.

@videogollumer

Ай бұрын

And commonsense.

Clearly Sonic didn't see the video of Steven trying to reason with Jack horner haha

Moral: never trust the black knight.

What's with the fanbase's sudden fixation on making sonic kill ? Sonic spared his enemies multiple times (knuckles shadow blaze Merlina ect) and no one bats an eye Sonic shows mercy against eggman and surge(a victim of mind control and manipulation) and everyone's saying he's soft and out of character And now want ian Flynn gone (After several years of begging for him to be the writer) Y'all are more inconsistent that the actual franchise tbh

@teamdarkfan317

Ай бұрын

Not wanting him to attempt to redeem villains all the time ≠ wanting sonic to kill all the time

@charmingmagican9821

Ай бұрын

@@teamdarkfan317 he only tried to redeem two villains He didn't try it with dr starline Or Super Neo metal sonic Or zavok Or any of the sinister six

@user-vt6dd4kz5t

Ай бұрын

​@@charmingmagican9821 facts

@hype5456

Ай бұрын

​@@charmingmagican9821he quite literally tried that with Metal Sonic

@Peasham

Ай бұрын

@@hype5456 He didn't try it with super neo metal sonic, the person said. Y'know, when Metal Sonic was actually a danger to other people?

OG, AOSTH, 2000s, and Frontiers Sonic Chad IDW, 2010s, Prime, and Movie Sonic Virgin

@ChiefMischievous

Ай бұрын

Yeah IDW Sonic is really lame

@Thaumiel98

17 күн бұрын

@@shucaybkarie1389 movie sonic "killed" eggman in the second movie, so he's not like IDW sonic (he didn't check on eggman after destroying the robot). He even tried to punch him in the face early in the movie. But yeah I know what you mean. He's out of character.

“You’re right, I do have a choice. I choose violence”

Game Sonic: Okay I would say something like that but I am not that stupid.

"What are we going to do? Ask him nicely to please stop destroying the universe?" *proceeds to do exactly that*

Accurate though. The end had me laughing.

He watched enough Steven Universe but not enough Doctor Who. Always be prepared for failure, or think on your feet.

sonic did deserved that one, come on dude! Not everyone is good, how stupid my boy

@ChiefMischievous

Ай бұрын

Very stupid

Making fun of IDW Sonic can be rlly funny actually LMAO, this is why og Sonic is the goat, IDW Sonic is just frustrating

@user-vt6dd4kz5t

Ай бұрын

Sonic X was no better infact he was more of a jerk.. sometimes in some episodes remember that.

@Breakaway-ic5gj

Ай бұрын

@@user-vt6dd4kz5t I remember him getting flowers for Cream, from the specific patch of grass she had on the poster she liked. How's that a jerk?

@user-vt6dd4kz5t

Ай бұрын

​​​​​​@@Breakaway-ic5gj sonic X season 2 episode 42.. You know the episode when Amy was running to sonic in the beach but sonic was being a total douche like a complete jerk and ignored her like a Total prick and complete douche and just selfishly go on with his own choice aka go racing with Sam speed and just completely ditched and left Amy be like completely ignored her in the beach like he doesn't care and doesn't show any reconsiderations or any concern about Amy's feelings or how his actions would hurt her look I know Amy's characterization in sonic X isn't exactly the best but let's not pretend for sonic's was any better...seeing sonic pulled a stunt like that on Amy in that episode really makes like him like a total jerk and a total douche in that episode! How are you going to excuse that huh? How are you going to defend and justify sonic's actions in that episode answer me this? Answer that question atleast. -sonic X season 2 episode 42 And I'm sure he did this kind of stuff in a few other episodes again I'm not saying he was 100% a jerk through the series but I'm some episodes he really was! Which is why idw sonic is better.

@spaceace6475

Ай бұрын

​@@user-vt6dd4kz5tI think you're projecting a bit on Amy's behalf, in that regard. You're free to dislike it, but it is a part of his character Sonic, while being a paragon, is still a character with his own set of flaws that give him his edge. He has an aloof personality, and is just fine being on his own without his friends. Not that he's trying to hurt her feelings, but he's not gonna do something he doesn't want for anyone. All his friends (Amy especially) understand and admire that aspect of him, despite how frustrating it may be at times

@user-vt6dd4kz5t

Ай бұрын

​​@@spaceace6475 ​ you're just proving my point that makes him a jerk and prick a complete douche who doesn't care about his friends like that stunt he pulled towards Amy in the beach which is really pisses me off here..like a complete jerk and if you're saying that his friends respect this aspect of his character despite it's frustrating and you are going to justify his actions in that episode too you just proving my point that sometimes he can really be pain in an ass and a complete douche if that's a part of his personality which it proves my point then you people say IDW sonic has the worst characterization and sonic X is a better sonic that's just BS let me tell ya why sure IDW sonic has some flaws in his character and made some mistakes no denying on that but atleast he's not a total jerk like sonic X and pull a stunt on his friends like he doesn't care about his friends at all like he did with Amy no....this sonic actually care about his friends and kind,caring and compassionate towards others too and a little cocky and arrogant ofc but atleast not as arrogant as sonic X!! And he's not a total douche too like sonic X if anything I think IDW sonic= game sonic his character is balanced very well..in IDW and frontiers he's not cocky and arrogant all the time unlike sonic X... because his character is actually balanced very well Conclusion: sonic X isn't better than IDW sonic.

I did not see that ending coming 😳

Guess that didn’t end well…

Hey Pixelrush you think you could make more animations focused on more IDW characters?

This is so accurate 🤣

Hey, guys; I just wanted you to know that Sonic has been over this stupid phase since the end of Issue 55.

@ChiefMischievous

Ай бұрын

Hip hip hooray

So sonic spares eggman once and now everyone complains about how he's too forgiving ? Tf is this fanbase ?

@JadenFox9

Ай бұрын

it's likely more the preaching in the IDW comics, sparing Eggman is common place

@ryannathaniel9296

Ай бұрын

Sonic rarely had the chance where he's in a position to spare Eggman. Most of the time, Eggman simply had plot armor

@maryafantalia8614

Ай бұрын

@charmingmagican9821 I know right? This fanbase is impossible...

@charmingmagican9821

Ай бұрын

@@maryafantalia8614 watch as the whole fanbase change their opinion all because a single guy said some retro opinion changing bs for the hundredth time

@maryafantalia8614

Ай бұрын

@@charmingmagican9821 I know, mate, I know, that's sad...

I get what people are saying with IDW Sonic being "too merciful", but at the same time, it's not too out of character as shown in the games. In Sonic Adventure, Sonic is the one that talks about how Chaos' turmoil won't vanish if he's sealed away inside the Master Emerald, and is the one to go against sealing him. In Sonic and the Black Knight, Sonic talks to Merlina before fighting, asking why did she do all of this, and wondering why she's done everything she did despite wanting to save the kingdom. Although, in Sonic IDW, Sonic acts like he needs a moral reason to have his enemies keep living. In these comics, they make it seem like Sonic is always waiting for Eggman to turn back, but the games mostly shows that Eggman runs away any chance he gets, and Sonic loves the thrill of the chase and the battles from Eggman and knows that Eggman isn't one to turn into a good guy. Sonic rants to Metal Sonic in the comics about staying one-note and staying at Eggman's side, being mad that he didn't stay good. This here just makes no sense coming from Sonic considering the other times Metal Sonic was given free-will from Eggman. In Heroes, he still was being overall bad and wanting to do things his way. And in the comics during Battle for Angel Island, it's clear that Metal Sonic still serves the Eggman Empire and works for Eggman (it's literally said in his opening speech to Sonic in #7). So, yeah, that's just stupid. With Surge, the comics make it all about Sonic and his morals (which IDW really tries to keep explaining for some reason) rather than actually having Sonic try to at least wonder what's going on with her ala the Merlina pre-battle cutscene. Sonic also acts super pretenous and acting like this the same old shtick that is like Knuckles, Shadow, Silver, and Blaze. But, he should know that not everyone he fights is going to go onto his side (like the Babylon Rogues. Heck, Shadow only really has mutual respect for him anyways.), and with the super pretenous way he's going at it, it's even less likely that she would willingly work with him in the slightest. Sonic being forgiving works in certain situations, but I've gotta admit that he can be a little too expecting of everyone being good in the comics. I like the way Ian writes the characters sometimes, but they're defintiely not perfect, and have some flaws that don't make sense for the character to make. Just wanted to throw my badly written 5 dollars in the conversation since a bunch of comments are talking about it.

@user-vt6dd4kz5t

Ай бұрын

He really isn't he was only doing that with surge and mr.tinker He didn't do that with dr.eggman,Starline, deadly six,zavok,neo metal sonic Even as IDW super sonic without a second thought he one-shot the gigantic zavok and beated him to the ground with no hesitation he was only trying to redeem 2 villains 1. Surge 2. Mr.tinker aka Eggman thought he's good due to losing his memory

@Peasham

Ай бұрын

I mean he's.. not too merciful, is the funniest thing. He talks about redemption specifically after beat the person he wants to redeem's ass because he quite literally keeps turning bad guys good after beating their asses.

@videogollumer

Ай бұрын

@@Peasham That literally only happened ONCE, and it was with Merlina! Everyone else either wasn't evil to begin with or wasn't rehabilitated by Sonic himself; argument invalidated!

@Peasham

Ай бұрын

​@@videogollumerAh yes, Shadow totally wasn't planning on murdering as many humans as possible as retribution for Maria getting killed, that's completely fine and not evil! Sociopath much?

@videogollumer

Ай бұрын

@@Peasham Learn how to read! I said "Everyone else either wasn't evil to begin with or *WASN'T REHABILITATED BY SONIC HIMSELF!!!* Did SONIC rehabilitate Shadow?! NO! It was AMY who rehabilitated him! Sonic did NOTHING to influence Shadow! Sonic may be more heroic than fans give him credit for, but he's NOT THE GRAND POOBAH OF ALL GOODNESS!!! Sonic only rehabilitated ONE truly evil character, and it was Merlina!

You do realize you're the king right Sonic?

Pretty sure King Arthur took that as an insult

i like how you kept the hypocrisy with "sonic" saying "for nobody but yourself" when if he was to actually follow that path,he'd be doing it for "sonic". So in all means,"sonic"'s the hypocrite.

@Breakaway-ic5gj

Ай бұрын

Now I slander IDW Sonic myself but being a good guy is in your best interest. Such as in Arthur's situation, if he were to become a good guy there would be less people like real Sonic or Merlina trying to kill him. He could become good for himself

20 seconds 20 likes Now that I've watched the entire video, wow Sonic kkkkkkkkk

Im suprised that the Black Knight didn't kill Sonic while he was yapping

Yeah it's Sonic ❤

Bro fr went "🐔 "

I don’t see how KZread could have possibly marked this “Made for Kids” after that scene. Sheesh

@ChiefMischievous

Ай бұрын

I bet KZread would mark happy tree friends for kids.

"Tis But a Scratch."

I guess the black knight's taking peace as a no.

*Actual IDW Sonic:* “You have the freedom to do the right thing, to do whatever you please!” *The portrayal of IDW Sonic:* “Wow! You have a sword? I remember that one time I had a sword…”

0/10 Showing Kindness is NOT a weakness, yeah the black knight is evil but this leaves the the wrong impression.

You know, given that this Arthur was a fake, this WOULD happen, no joke.

Ya know what? Can we just say IDW Sonic and Game Sonic are completely different interpretations of the character already?

He when strike to the point. XD

F. That hurts.

I've always read the IDW Sonic bits like Optimus Prime or Superman. He's not being naive. He's being strong enough to be gentle. Trying to find a peaceful way out before throwing hands if it comes to it

@videogollumer

Ай бұрын

Optimus and Superman wouldn't let a guy who created a techno-necro virus that almost wiped out all life on the planet get off Scot-free, and you KNOW it. It was stupid even for Sonic.

Bayverse and tfp optimus: *facepalm* Bayverse and tfp tangle: *sighs*

Ngl though, black knight was Jason Griffith’s best sonic to this day. Plus I’d notice this what happened when po tried to reason with the chameleon in kp4.

Any chance you can one based on a Fanart where Amy Sonia(Sonics Sister)?

I guess I'm not really one to talk since I'm neutral towards IDW Sonic but this is really funny either way

Well got dark quickly

not harassment ian flynn good joke

Well at least he tried

Meanwhile Archie Sonic: *dropping yet another egg themed space station in his base(d) form* DESU EGGA DA! Black Knight: *desperately unleashes flurry of attacks* Sonic: "Too Late! You Pushed My "Limits" Button!" *Starts punching the Death Egg* Black Knight: *Even more attacks* Sonic: "CRUSH YOU! JUST LIKE MY LIMITS!"

The black Knight: I understand where you’re coming from but I have a giant sword that hasn’t been used for a little while so 0:27

Alr pixel i need u to explain y do ppl hate idw sonic so much??

So sonic got marcy’ed

@PCC.19.91

Ай бұрын

YOU SEE THAT ITS AN AMPHIBIA REFERENCE TOO!?!!!!!?!??!!!!!!

OUCH! Shees!Man! This.. This.. Oouuh My god! But definitive

I know this is a joke but I don't think idw sonic would do this. I think the fake king author can be lumped with solaris, time eater and the END where they need to be stoped.

@Peasham

Ай бұрын

Yeah, this video's a masterclass in bad faith, IDW Sonic never doesn't fight a villain when they're a danger to people.