The british and pakistani ammo managed to turn the lewis gun into a bolt action

@evolvedcopper2205

3 жыл бұрын

This is the most well said comment I've seen in weeks 😂

@arkadeepkundu4729

3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the famous WW1 water cooled bolt action machine gun.

@xoxo2008oxox

3 жыл бұрын

"That is bloody well humor!"

@generalpatton2910

3 жыл бұрын

@@arkadeepkundu4729 water cooled? thats an air cooling shroud on the lewis!

@ScottKenny1978

3 жыл бұрын

Impressive. Most impressive.

I feel like we're watching the sanitized, PG version of an actual drunken rant Ian had the night before.

@DynamicDurge

3 жыл бұрын

Beautifully said

@daveb5540

3 жыл бұрын

:)

@fjcf123

3 жыл бұрын

Pictured Ian going through an "Apocalypse Now" style drunken breakdown in his bedroom. lmao

@Thy_Boss

3 жыл бұрын

Ian's KZread comments predictions are charmingly out of date, underestimating how much comments nowadays are about people lazily patting themselves on the back instead of arguing with the video

@shiftyjesusfish

3 жыл бұрын

When he started recording the bottle was full. When he finished recording the bottle was empty.

*Ian opens a bottle of alcohol aggressively while looking into the camera* Oh boy, Ian's finally had it.

@jordandecrevoisier7713

3 жыл бұрын

It's only a product placement :) Hense why he keeps the label in plain sight and drinks from his poored drink not once, not twice but three times. It's a bit like in sitcoms with sodas and cigarettes and alcool.

@SgtBFGunner

3 жыл бұрын

Has to drink in a 9 minute video. Make sure you watch their video of the tour of the Kyro distillery. Didn't even look like he enjoyed it. Note to Forgotten Weapons... knock it off.

@herrakaarme

3 жыл бұрын

@@SgtBFGunner Strange. When I watched the video, I thought he liked the tour a lot. It was so thorough as well. Not that I'd ever doubt his work ethic, but it seemed a bit too much to be just for the usual KZread commercial cooperation (like a KZreadr suddenly wearing a watch for a single video, telling how it changed his whole life, but then it's totally gone already in the next video, never to be seen again). Not to mention the distillery, despite being so small, has won quite a few awards, so there's no reason to doubt the quality of the products. Unless you are working for a competitor, of course. Then you are perfectly justified.

@JAFO.

3 жыл бұрын

@@herrakaarme You nailed it

@technoturnovers7072

3 жыл бұрын

@@SgtBFGunner yes, how dare he be theatrical with his drinking in a youtube video! god, I hope you don't watch a brandon herrera video, because he might just give you an aneurism

British ammo made your machinegun into a UK friendly bolt action, just like the UK wanted

@Ghostrider-71

3 жыл бұрын

Straight pull rifles work so well!

@NotAllBooksSmellNice

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, in general, most cordite based ammo from 80 years ago probably isn't that great.

@CMyBigHarryBLLS

2 жыл бұрын

I mean that ammo is probably older than the majority of everyone's living family if I live to 80 I probably won't be able to hold a full size machine gun much less shoot it

@matthewcooper7296

2 жыл бұрын

@@NotAllBooksSmellNice yeah, the fact that it fires is a miracle

@shwah8299

2 жыл бұрын

When was the last school shooting in the UK?

They hated Gun Jesus because He told them the truth.

@TheSexybitch0619

3 жыл бұрын

Now I can’t unsee this lol. Totally accurate

@mapletreepower7038

3 жыл бұрын

They don’t baptize their ammo

@Fasnfip

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man, someone definitely needs to draw the meme! lol

@Jon-ko3vv

3 жыл бұрын

Brandon Herrera?

@kristianjuel3748

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jon-ko3vv kalashnigod?

Having served 18 months national service in Greece, I never thought I'd ever hear the phrase "I would say that the Greek is definitely the ammunition that you want to have".

@VonArmagedda

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe the issues was the gun, not ammo

@reddevved

3 жыл бұрын

all the good stuff was sold to us

@NoName-oh6pc

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was surprised that it didn’t run British Surplus ammo. That’s the ammo it would have spent its life firing and the Lewis gun was considered a reliable weapon during its British military service. Although .303 British has gone through many adjustments and modifications over the years, so maybe that plays a factor🤷‍♂️

@omegasarchangel7109

3 жыл бұрын

@@NoName-oh6pcThe main problem with the British ammo is the amount of degradation due to age and storage conditions

@ramjb

3 жыл бұрын

@@NoName-oh6pc ww2 surplus british ammo is 70 years old. Time degrades stuff, and ammo is no exception. You can't reasonably expect that stuff to run well in a machinegun, no matter 70 years ago did so just fine.

Spends all the money on a machinegun and penny-pinches on the ammo: That is a REALLY expensive bolt-action rifle.

@grantgarrod2232

3 жыл бұрын

If he'd bought a semi-auto rifle, & used the Class III tax stamp money to either buy better quality ammo, or invest in reloading equipment to make his own, he'd be better off. If this was my result of all that time, money, & trouble, I'd be really PO'd & embarrassed.

@magdump4456

3 жыл бұрын

It seems a lot of rich people are that way. They'll buy nice stuff and run junk through them. My father-in-law is pretty well off and it can afford pretty much anything he wants but yet he still buys generic brand food items at the grocery store which I will never understand. Maybe that's how they become well off or rich, by penny pinching lol

@MrEvan312

3 жыл бұрын

@@magdump4456 I work in an oil change service place and seriously, the other day this really expensive mustang came through and not only does he go with the cheapest oil he goes way longer in between changes. Sure is a nice car though...

@TenebrusI07

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrEvan312 Meanwhile i have a 15 year old altima and do full synthetic changes on time and always swap the filter too. Maybe that's why i'm always broke haha. Car runs like the day it was made though.

@MrEvan312

3 жыл бұрын

@@TenebrusI07 It's really all a cost everyone has to pay at some point, but with good maintenance, you at least run into fewer problems along the way.

I'll never look at a folding table again without thinking of a Lewis gun bipod.

@andrewbrowning1931

3 жыл бұрын

And now I'll never be able to either

@McOuroborosBurger

3 жыл бұрын

Or a Serbu RN-50 now

@BangBang-hk4rg

2 жыл бұрын

Me neither now! 😂🤣😂🤣

"Ian rants" Ian: *gives clear demonstration and useful advice based off of real world experience*

@mattisvov

3 жыл бұрын

He's the hero we need but don't deserve: A man that is polite and reasonable on the internet.

@sladeb6036

3 жыл бұрын

Would you expect anything less from Gun Jesus

@CORNDODGER

3 жыл бұрын

Wait WHAT? YOU DRUNK TOO OR WHAT ?

@thorlin3826

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, he just lied about that bolt action. The stock had shrunk and the recoil lug forward of the action wasn't bearing the recoil force, the rear of the action was. Ian didn't even twig to it when he saw cracks at the wrist emanating from the action.

@Sasquach1312

2 жыл бұрын

@@thorlin3826 You're making assumptions, throwing an accusation, and missing the damn point which is that ammo should not be used in semi-automatic or automatic weapons because it's too hot and destroys guns and hands.

I love how his shoulders slumps in disappointment everytime the gun jams, like the ammo let him down and shamed the family.

@mattisvov

3 жыл бұрын

"Dishonor on your COW!"

@psi9000

3 жыл бұрын

“My disappointment is immeasurable and this second is ruined”.

I think some of the problem comes from people wanting "authenticity" while not realizing that ammo has a shelf-life. Some people buy a WW2 gun, and assume that they should get WW2 ammo to make it work as it "authentically" did.

@burningsinner1132

2 жыл бұрын

Bonus points for german stuff, which essentially ignored such things as protective varnish. So you get a happy idiot with shiny surplus bullets... cleaned in the cheapest way possible, which is throwing it in acid. Oh, and don't get me started on sheer amount of powder erzatz germany used out of desperation. The only contender for this category is soviet mines.

@MetalheadMitch762

6 ай бұрын

​​@@burningsinner1132WW2 German ammunition actually works very well in the Mausers I shoot. Especially the AP SmK rounds. I never shot the late war SmE ammo that has varnish but I have some that I collected including 7.92 Kurz. WW2 Canadian (didn't know it existed until I actually bought some) and Greek surplus 8mm is good as well.

@griftinggamer

3 ай бұрын

...yea...but in a bolt action I can confirm German ww2 ammo out of mausers did pretty well for me.

@Laz7481

2 ай бұрын

​@@griftinggamer I think they are talking about machineguns.

"garbage?" "Crap?" Dear lord, I need to sit down after hearing such harsh words from Ian's mouth. I didn't even do anything but I somehow feel disappointed in myself.

Damnit you just created a whole new class for the atf to regulate, bolt action machine guns

@rodneybardin9281

3 жыл бұрын

Drinking and talking about guns ammunition. Shooting guns while drinking. Not a good teacher. Shane on you.

@Dogg1982

3 жыл бұрын

@@rodneybardin9281 I must've missed the part where they were drinking out in the range........ as for talking about guns while drinking; GTFO with your stupid moralizing. I'm sure guns can only be discussed perfectly sober and in a church pew with the UTMOST solemnity.....

@corsel6911

3 жыл бұрын

@@rodneybardin9281 drinking and talking about guns and ammunition is as about as dangerous as drinking and talking about motor racing. That is such a strange comment to make.

@360nofx

3 жыл бұрын

@@rodneybardin9281 you are aware of a thing called editing right? Or do you think Team America is real as well!?

@davidlamberson5435

3 жыл бұрын

Is that the new semi fully automatic bolt action with a reverse bump stock?

"Let's go, Hans! We can charge them!" "But they have a machine gun!" "No, they don't."

@Kr0noZ

3 жыл бұрын

Like, "I've seen the ammo they buy, If we're lucky they empty the magazine dry cycling the gun because none of the rounds will actually fire"

@nicohellmuth5275

3 жыл бұрын

LOS HANS WIR KÖNNEN SIE STÜRMEN!!! aber sie habe in ein Maschinengewehr! NEIN. NEIN HABEN SIE NICHT!

@HappyBeezerStudios

3 жыл бұрын

They created a Lewis bolt action rifle

@Nonsense010688

3 жыл бұрын

@@HappyBeezerStudios that was what I was thinking: you may as well use a bolt action rifle.

@Finwolven

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nonsense010688 No no, that's just an instant conversion; when you really want to save ammo in your machine gun, this is cheap and turns it into a bolt-action!

"Well, I found our problem. The damned barrel is full of water!"

How to have a really expensive bolt-action in two steps: 1) Own a fully automatic machine gun 2) Use British WW2 Surplus

To be fair, that's the cheapest straight-pull conversion kit you'll ever find.

@jehoiakimelidoronila5450

3 жыл бұрын

Wanna convert your machine guns to semi-auto/bolt action? Try the new "antique-grade" surplus ammunition from your backwater store 🏬🏪 "shady uncle's guns and ammo." Your ammo will do the work for you. Guaranteed *0%* reliability. No refunds! Absolutely low low price!

@adamcohill1617

3 жыл бұрын

To be faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaair

@manictiger

3 жыл бұрын

@@adamcohill1617 Literally.

@blakebeaton5821

Ай бұрын

California compliant machine gun.

I'm actually super fascinated by the fact that there's still a meaningful amount of ammo from WWII out there, near 80 years on.

@dogsnads5634

3 жыл бұрын

It won't have been sold out of the UK either. .303 left UK stocks around 1965, so it would have been sold on to another country after, probably Africa or Asia, them stored there for an age in a hot climate...recipe for disaster.

@tonyc223

3 жыл бұрын

I still shoot WW2 30-06 out of my m-1, In the last 3 years shot about 1000 rounds. Yes the ammo has been stored well.

@dogsnads5634

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonyc223 It's heat and humidity that are the killer. Any old surplus from a hot country that is old is not worth bothering with. Mind you Pakistani ammo in general has a dreadful reputation even when new..

@tonyc223

3 жыл бұрын

@@dogsnads5634 I should also add my ammo is from St. louis army ammunition plant 1943

@Go-ah-oold

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder how much ammunition was produced for these type of guns before the ammunition standardization change, and how much of that ammunition was used up.

I don't know about you guys, but it looks like Ian is my dad and he'll say "he's not mad at me, but just disappointed" and teach me a lesson after I said that drum magazines are amazing.

@TheTISEOMan

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, Drum mags _are_ amazing. Do they require some maintanence? Yes. Are they big? Yes. But so is a big box of 5.56 dangling off your SAW. That's the main reason why the M27 IAR is being put into Marine service _and_ drum mags are being experimented with and issued. Why have a big belt box when you can have a nice pouch to store a drum mag or two, or three. More compact and technically any soldier can become a SAW gunner by just slapping a drum mag in, not pass around an entirely separate weapon. Not only that, they have gotten extremely reliable and feeding issues are next to non-existant. A real Beta-C mag for example (Not the crappy Korean rip off with super jank spring.) can feed thousands of rounds with basically no error. Just spray some of that graphite lube and you're good to go. just like any mag, if you keep dust out, the mag will work

@nercksrule

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheTISEOMan You've come to the wrong place to defend drum magazines. Both Ian and Karl have lambasted the unwieldy and cumbersome nature of drums. A single "drum" pouch on a vest could hold just as many, if not more, rounds in quad-stacked or double-stacked side-by-side stick mags.

@TheTISEOMan

3 жыл бұрын

@@nercksrule Yet Ian and Karl are holding those mags with the mindset of 2-gun shooting. Especially Karl, you can already see the influence of competition shooting and less actual combat practicality in their WWSD rifle. Barely lighter and is just a 1700 dollar competition rifle, yet it's heralded as "This is totally what Stoner would do with modern materials!" With the strong presumption Stoner would rely on a polymer lower if he would make a rifle today. I really don't hold high regard for their opinion when it comes to how something would work in relative field use, Ian I respect for his scholarly work on the history of something, very much so. But when it comes to how it would actually work in the field, our opinions differ. It all depends on the desire to have continuous fire and how much ammunition is required. We can already see Beta-C mags being useful with the Colt Automatic Rifle, being relatively similar to the IAR as a heavy barreled AR platform nearly 40 years earlier. That's not to say that triple and quad stack mags are suddenly worthless and in all purposes inferior to drums, but instead can complement them nicely. Soldiers can be equipped with what is needed for the desired mission. If SAW support is necessary, then a soldier can be equipped with a multitude of drum mags for a continuous stream of fire, or a few quad stacks for a lighter role, albeit I can see length being an issue. A 100 rnd quad stack mag is going to be more awkward to deal with than a beta C mag having a low profile.

@bobzelley5100

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like an unassuming attorney that I would hire

@Thebuzzki11er

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly don't understand the hate, I see it as a submachine gun issue.WW2 Western armies never had much respect for submachine guns, not like how the germans and especially soviets handed them out like candy. For these armies, a submachine gun wasn't just what you gave to tankers and artillery crews, but rather the primary weapon of every man in an infantry platoon. Carrying two drums is heavy but minimizing reloading in brutal urban close quarters combat would be life saving for a soviet shock trooper. The weight of the drums is not as much of an issue because these guys aren't running across fields with them, they're going room to room clearing them out with burst fire and hand grenades.

"Hello, welcome to forgotten weapons, I'm Ian, and today we're looking at a straight pull, bolt action Lewis gun"

@daikimizu9324

8 ай бұрын

"It's a really cool-looking gun, it's being sold here on rock island auction, now let's look at the very unique features on this gun, it uses 80-year old ammo wich I think it's pretty neat, loading and firing these rounds will give you more accuracy, as you will have only one shot per trigger pull so you don't have to worry about going full auto and wasting all those bullets into senseless spraying"

That's pretty impressive, tbh. The British WW2 ammo can convert a machine gun into semi-auto with no other tinkering or parts needed.

@Nerotique

3 жыл бұрын

More like bolt action. lol

@madawcofarreat2348

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nerotique Hahaha, true.

@BadlanderOutsider

3 жыл бұрын

Seeing as it's almost a century old at this point, that's not too surprising. It'd be like someone in the 1980s trying to run a gun on Victorian surplus ammo and wondering why it's not working well.

@romannod5191

3 жыл бұрын

In true British manner, they probably stored it in a shed with two guys watching it

@COIcultist

3 жыл бұрын

@@BadlanderOutsider Well 81 to 75 years, but I hazard to say that the ammunition was made to work. Now whether it was sealed or placed in hermetically sealed containers is another thing. People are still using Russian spam can ammunition that was made in the 50s that might be as little as 5 years younger.

Guy: Hey it's a machine gun! Bad ammo: Bolt action, take it or leave it

@ragefuel3d

3 жыл бұрын

Plot twist an atf agent sold him the ammo

@adamthrasher5605

3 жыл бұрын

This needs to be a meme of Pawn Stars!

@davidcox3076

3 жыл бұрын

I'd put some sketchy stuff in my kar 98K (except Turkish and Elbonian). But in anything automatic? That's just stupid.

@mach533x

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidcox3076 its so annoying shooting that crap... lol i have a lot of turkish from years ago... it suuuuucks. no idea what to do with it. lmao

@stanislavczebinski994

3 жыл бұрын

@@mach533x Pull the projectiles, dump the powder and the primer - put the projectiles back on: Voilá, perfect dummy rounds!!! ;-D

there is a saying in Germany: Wer billig kauft, kauft zweimal. Roughly translated: if you buy cheap, you buy twice. Not because it is good. No, because it did not work the first time. Also we are very peculiar about the difference between billig - cheap and preiswert - reasonably priced (literarily: worth the price).

@azzazel225

3 жыл бұрын

In Russia we say Скупой платит дважды, дурак трижды. Cheapskates pay twice, stupid people pay three times.

@unclejoeoakland

3 жыл бұрын

Gibson Guitars, way back in the 1890s had a catalogue with a whole list of slogans for their sales staff- one slogan was, "buy your second guitar first and save money!"

@esprit101

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen foreigner struggle a bit with the difference between "billig" and "günstig" in German. I tried to explain it as "billig" meaning what you buy isn't great and that's why it's cheap, while "günstig" means its not expensive for what you get.

@kw9849

2 жыл бұрын

There's a similar English saying: "Buy once, cry once"

@bodhijitbiswas6282

2 жыл бұрын

Funny how so many cultures have similar concepts about the same economic fallacy, in my country we say "Mahenga roye ek baar, sasta roye baar baar". Roughly translated to: Buy expensive cry once, buy cheap cry again and again

“I am Ian McMullen and this really grinds my gears” He’s so straightforward and entertaining

@thepopeshat8029

2 жыл бұрын

@MMVPN Sports Munitions Muhammad

@thepopeshat8029

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds a lot worse out loud than what was in my head

"Turn your machine gun UK legal with this one weird trick!"

@cottonballs185

3 жыл бұрын

*It's not a magazine, it's a feed pan as there's no spring to displace cartridges with, therefore it's legal!*

@SailfishSoundSystem

3 жыл бұрын

Lol!

@Clintwoodz

3 жыл бұрын

Open carry of mg permitted if surplus ammunition is loaded

@danielfreedom3504

3 жыл бұрын

California has left the chat.

@blackhawk65589

3 жыл бұрын

"The UK government hates this guy!"

For a mere 25% saving on ammo you to can turn your fully automatic machine gun into a manual bolt action gun!

@Narcan885

3 жыл бұрын

NRA loves this trick!

I love the bald guy "Buy good stuff, shoot good stuff kids." *G-I JOOOOE*

@jacobmccandles1767

2 жыл бұрын

"Now you know, and knowing is half the battle."

I remember shooting my Dad's Enfield .303 with surplus ammo from WW2... sometimes there was still sand in the boxes from North Africa! Never a problem... even with the few tracer rounds randomly dispersed through the boxes. Of course, this was 40+ years ago! Good video making good points, as usual. Thanks, Ian!

"I have a bunch of surplus ammo" aka Ian has a secret doomsday bunker beneath the RIA house with enough ammo for an army

@LukeBunyip

3 жыл бұрын

...as long as that army comprised French Foreign Legion troops from the mid 1930s.

@jehoiakimelidoronila5450

3 жыл бұрын

... that got transported to modern day via time machine used by Ian. That Ian equipped with surplus famas F1 rifles.

@LadyAnuB

3 жыл бұрын

Shhhhhh, no one is supposed to know Ian has enough 7.65 French Longue stockpiled to survive the next millennium.

@ventedbus4917

3 жыл бұрын

And it is all for french firearms

@MrGrimsmith

3 жыл бұрын

How else is he to supply the Elbonian Army when they occupy the USA? Of course it might be in a bunch of random calibres but eh, Elbonia!

But Ian, we are saving TWICE! Once when you pay less for the ammo and the second when you can’t actually shoot that many rounds! And maybe you save three times because it often breaks the gun and then you can’t shoot anything! Three times saving!! Three times!

@davidlewis3867

3 жыл бұрын

This guy gets it. If you can't shoot the ammo, the ammo can't shoot your wallet.

@ragnarragnarsson3128

3 жыл бұрын

Once...Twice...THREE TIMES A LADY GENTS!!!

The British ammo deters the user from blowing all their ammo at once and forced them to make sure all their shots count. Its not crap, its a feature!

Imagine the enemy is coming and suddenly your machinegun jams.

@neutronalchemist3241

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty common actually. MGs jams nowadays too, but in WWII it was not a question of "if" nor a question of "when", it was a question of "how often".

*opens bottle dramatically* oh boy this is going to be good

@bryanconnaughton474

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely no one: Ian: oh boy, here we go

@VonArmagedda

3 жыл бұрын

I bet he's looking for any excuse to open the kyrö malt bottle :D

@themodernwarfarehistorian825

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah ahahah

@vanman724

3 жыл бұрын

Ya, never seen him SO fired up

@etoineschrdlu9382

3 жыл бұрын

It's nice to see Ian get sponsorship from KYRO.

Ian: “I have a bunch of surplus Ammo myself” Me: “How much is a ‘bunch’ in the mind of Gun Jesus?”

@MikaelKKarlsson

3 жыл бұрын

Mortal level: practically unlimited ammo.

@dbmail545

3 жыл бұрын

I got 6 spam cans of 7n6 in my stash that is the last stuff I will shoot if SHTF. Not because it's bad but because it is better sealed and harder hitting than the new commercial ammo.

@charlesc.9012

3 жыл бұрын

@@SonsOfLorgar Username adds up too lololololololol

@davidbrennan660

3 жыл бұрын

Ian can get all fish and loaves with ammo cans if he wishes.

@damiangrouse4564

3 жыл бұрын

Answer: All of it

Buying ammo that was potentially manufactured over Eighty years or more ago, and expecting it perform as per a modern equivalent, has got to be the new definition of insanity. Not to mention being extremely dangerous for not only your weapons, but your personal wellbeing too. But you can't legislate against terminal stupidity............

"For thou hast, at great price, obtained a jewel of a weapon; yet, to spare a few coins, thou defilest the jewel. The fool spares the ammunition and spoils the gun, but the wise know that good surplus will fire constantly."

We aren't allowed to own firearms in my country, so I just set both of my arms on fire. It works just as well.

@travisinthetrunk

3 жыл бұрын

Isn’t Springfield in America?

@juliannestingray5948

3 жыл бұрын

good one.

@benvaun1330

3 жыл бұрын

Checks out. I would not fuck with someone who casually lights their arms on fire and comes at me.

@HankIndieGames

3 жыл бұрын

It's not all it's cracked up to be, here in the US we have a lot of trouble guarding our hunny pots and pic-a-nic baskets because of the right to arm bears.

@MrMrrome

3 жыл бұрын

Finally, a weapon to surpass metal gear...

Gotta appreciate a company like PPU that still makes alot of these older calibers.

@firestorm165

3 жыл бұрын

If hypothetically you find yourself in Serbia could you buy straight from the factory if you ask nicely enough?

@PaulVerhoeven2

3 жыл бұрын

@@firestorm165 Better question would be can you bring it back to the US with you?

@firestorm165

3 жыл бұрын

@@PaulVerhoeven2 fair point

@kmech3rd

3 жыл бұрын

PPU .303 Brit FTW. Brassy n classy, and not filthy either.

@camwinston5248

3 жыл бұрын

@@firestorm165 Yes...but they say there is a bunch of those Elbonians hanging around out in the parking lots you have to watch out for..! They will try too take ur stash...the security guards have too run them off constantly...😁😂😂😂😂

One thing to remember about surplus ammo, especially when made during hotly contested conflicts, is that it was expected to be used within a couple of years. The ammo did not need shelf life, it just needed to get to the front and work most of the time. With that in mind there are many shortcuts that were often taken in these circumstances. One I've heard about (in particular regarding 303 brit) include not annealing the necks of cases after forming, which can lead to the case necks cracking in storage (after decades) let alone when used. Another common one is skipping or skimping on airtight and water proofing lacquers, which was mentioned in the comments already.

@HelghastStalker

5 ай бұрын

It's a major reason that, when it comes to my firearms, I will NEVER use surplus ammunition. Only fresh/modern-manufactured, especially for civilian use. Civilian rounds, generally speaking, are made to have a "shelf life" since the average civilian isn't constantly blowing through ammunition and buying more.

I initially thought this had to be about Scott and his 50 cal incident but it came out a month before that.

@GreatBeeman

3 жыл бұрын

The signs were there

@privatetrash2810

3 жыл бұрын

@@JAKOB1977 it was a different gun. He says it at the start of his video.

When ATF rolls up to range “ hey grab that cheap ammo real quick” 😂

@wastedangelematis

3 жыл бұрын

This comment deserves more love by his ATF agent

@crazeelazee7524

3 жыл бұрын

ATF: "Is that a machine gun?" "Nope, it's bolt action. Let me show you"

@JAFO.

3 жыл бұрын

@@crazeelazee7524 LMAO

Once you realize that Ian's shirt only has one epaulet, you can't un-see it.

@zelashizzz1278

3 жыл бұрын

Damn you!

@keepyourbilsteins

3 жыл бұрын

One can only wear a single beret at a time.

@demonprinces17

3 жыл бұрын

Looking at the gin

@Ni999

3 жыл бұрын

@@keepyourbilsteins Bingo.

@michaelfregoe5875

3 жыл бұрын

This is the b This is the best comment I've seen.

I feel very much the same about Archery and arrows. Some people go out to buy exillent bows, but then they cheap out on the arrows. Yes, arrows are expensive, and they break... But the accuracy of your shot is mainly determined by the quality and consistency of your arrows. I'd rather shoot a crude bent branch as a bow with high grade arrows, then a top of the line bow with cheap and inconsistent arrows.

"I think I'm empty." Great epitaph for any bystander.

"Sully not thy fine automatic with unclean ammo; instead chooseth thou from amongst the finest fruits, and you shall cut your enemies in pieces and not be rent asunder on the day of tribulation."

@mikehimes7944

3 жыл бұрын

'To buy tula is to throw swine before a pearl.'

@5riversdeep628

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikehimes7944 but, if you buy tula for your HI Point, like I have, It's a match made in swine heaven.

@noahculver8936

3 жыл бұрын

Gun Jesus quotes eh? Nice.

@bottomgear4028

3 жыл бұрын

I'm going to add these to the book of Boogalations

@metagen77

3 жыл бұрын

Thou shalt not sully thine mechanical musket using projectiles lacking valor - GunJesus

When I was first gifted my Mosin Nagant, I was lured in by the siren of a can of 500 surplus ammo. Over the last 6 years, I've hesitantly shot nearly 300 of it. Beforehand, I know I'm going to regret it; during its fun because I can just set the can on the bench and shoot However much I want because it was like $0.05 each; but when I get home I have to spend 2 hours cleaning the rifle because it looks like the insides are coated in fresh black paint... this is a vicious cycle

@sushikazuki5945

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a modern day Shakespearean Tragedy, there. The guy with the rifle and the ammo he can never *truly* use

@Ryan-de2gd

3 жыл бұрын

Gotta love that dirty dirty Surplus

@kamikazemelon787

3 жыл бұрын

i always found it relaxing to do the whole “cleaning every small bit” part with my Mosin after shooting that nasty corrosive stuff, but that’s just me

@MlTGLIED

3 жыл бұрын

@@kamikazemelon787 No, it's not only you. I clean my Mosin Nagant everytime. It doesnt matter for me if I used surplus or shiny brass match ammunition.

@zelashizzz1278

3 жыл бұрын

I've got some old 7.62x39 that is the same way... dirty dirty

The surplus US M2 Ball from Royal Tiger Imports has functioned flawlessly in everything from M1 Garands, 1903s, 1917s, and more. Prior to buying them, I had my concerns, but that quickly all went away about 100 rounds in. Not a bad deal for sealed ammo in a spam can.

@georgesheffield1580

Жыл бұрын

Lucky

I’m a car guy so I’ll help Ian out with the opening analogy… it’s like changing out the turbo on your car for a bigger one and doing the whole host of supporting mods with it like bigger injectors, better intercooler etc…. And then trying to run it on a 87 octane pump gas and wondering why you melted a piston when you were “only pushing 24psi on an upgraded turbo with stock internals.” On second thought…. The Lamborghini and cheap gas analogy is probably way better.

It's like I'm getting lectured by my dad. "Jesus Christ just buy the good ammo!" *Takes shot of whiskey* "Would ya!?!"

@williamgallop9425

3 жыл бұрын

Not whiskey. Kyrö-gin from Finland.

@Qmeister044

3 жыл бұрын

@@williamgallop9425 It literally says single rye malt whisky on the bottle.

@williamgallop9425

3 жыл бұрын

@@Qmeister044 my mistake. In earlier video ian tasted kyrö-gin.

@fuzzball7972

3 жыл бұрын

I can imagine my dad saying this to me if I bought crappy ammo.

The trench gun rant where Ian cusses is one of my favorites... seeing him crack a bottle open made me think “here.... we... go!”

@zrobotics

3 жыл бұрын

@@vaderdudenator1 here ya go, I was curious myself. Pretty funny. kzread.info/dash/bejne/jGR4mNJsp5XXl7w.html

Dear lord the Bipod on that Lewis gun could support a whole family.

With computers there's a similar issue with people buying expensive components and then not buying a good power supply and surge protector

There’s a great scene in Flyboys where the veteran pilot is spending his downtime examining each round of out of the boxes for his machine guns, and carefully inspect it for deformed casing and bad primers before loading it into his guns. Since the next time he was flying he relied on his ammo to keep him alive, he wasn’t going to trust the rounds he was loading into his machine guns without taking a look himself. 🤔. Of course, this was WW1 France, where the quality of French ammo could be spotty.😶

@spazmonkey2131

3 жыл бұрын

All round good movie

@ScottKenny1978

3 жыл бұрын

Not just French ammo...

@petesheppard1709

3 жыл бұрын

Overall, ammo quality in WWI was abysmal. Othias at C&Rsenal tells of an M1917 being blown up by Winchester factory ammo.

@ewhartiii

3 жыл бұрын

I read that von Richthoven used to do the same thing, as well as instruct all of his pilots to do the same. I always assumed that the more successful WWI pilots would inspect their ammo because of wartime quality issues. Jams in flight were difficult to deal with, especially if you were being shot at.

@cheyannei5983

3 жыл бұрын

@@ewhartiii IIRC you couldn't clear a jam in most WW1 aircraft guns. One bad round and you're out of a gun for that fight... Or at least, I'm presuming based on the interwar aircraft guns. Most countries just finished up their ww1 designs and sat on them till 1936-38 when it became apparent a new war was coming.

You can't give those Elbonians anything good. They wreck it every time

@SpacePatrollerLaser

3 жыл бұрын

@@tacticalmattfoley Ian; Thou hast created a monster!

THANK GOD SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT! Ian, I can't agree more! I'm always astounded when I show up at the range and see people shooting some customized, $2,000 plus AR with all of the whistles and bells, and they are shooting the CRAPPIEST ammo they can find! Why?! Did you buy that $350,000 Lamborghini and buy cheap, knock-off brand tires? And you wonder why you can't get good quarter mile times and it corners like a Yugo? Use your head and feed that nice firearm of yours quality ammo. Watch it run like a top and shoot tight groups!

When I bought my first "nice" bolt action rifle I felt broke and bought Tula and Barnaul steel cased ammo to go with it... Poor accuracy, lots of problems including the bolt locking up and requiring a couple of whacks with a mallet to clear up. I learned my lesson.

That's an excellent magazine-fed, straight pull, bolt action Lewis gun

@f.h.9606

3 жыл бұрын

It's a pan, not a drum magazine...

@imperialmodelworks8473

3 жыл бұрын

@@f.h.9606 same concept. I dont really care either way.

@syhaidar7489

3 жыл бұрын

@@f.h.9606 it's a drum that is attached horizontally

@f.h.9606

3 жыл бұрын

@@syhaidar7489 in a drum magazine all cartridges are placed parallel to the center axis and the bullets point forward. In a pan magazine all cartridges are placed radial and the bullets point to the center of the magazine.

@f.h.9606

3 жыл бұрын

@@imperialmodelworks8473 Two different concepts. Ignorance is bliss. Or isn't it?

Our Lord hath spoken... “Thou shall not besmirch thy NFA transferable machine gun with unholy ammo”

@andersjjensen

3 жыл бұрын

AMEN BROTHER! :P Also, I'm stealing "besmirch" without any feelings of guilt what so ever!

@948320z

3 жыл бұрын

Don't know why but the phrase "thy NFA transferable machine gun" made me laugh more than I should. Amen.

8:09 - "If you reload the stuff, more power to you." Both figuratively, _and_ literally. 😜

God, I love a good Ian McCullum rant. I always feel better afterwords. I always feel relieved and more hopeful for some reason.

Anyone remember 1000 rounds for $110? Those were the days.

@SuperAWaC

3 жыл бұрын

If only the same people who bought up all that cheap ammo didn't turn around and vote politicians into power who became responsible for import scarcity. LBJ, Clinton, and Reagan in particular. It's crazy to hear old timers whine about the situation they helped create.

@auctoritate8254

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperAWaC Christ, Reagan is responsible for SO MANY restrictive firearms laws. People like to make California a laughingstock with how bad its gun laws are, but they actually largely date back to when Reagan was the governor of california.

@SuperAWaC

3 жыл бұрын

@@auctoritate8254 It's funny because they are mostly actually Nancy's fault. Ron was a big pushover whenever it came to anything his wife said. He didn't wanna pass a lot of the laws, but when the lobbyists got into his wife's ear, she'd nag him until he'd pass any law.

@elultimo102

3 жыл бұрын

@@auctoritate8254 And I was just disappointed in that '86 ban. Ronnie, you weren't what I thought .

@majorbludd6369

3 жыл бұрын

My first AK was a Mak 90 came with two 40 round mags four 30 round mags two 5 round mags and two spam cans of chinese 7.62x39mm all for $300.00 and that was in California bought from a gun shop that was also a liquor store. I miss the good old days

“Amateurs”: convert my manual rifle into a self loader. “Experts”: Convert my automatic into a manual.

@tortron

3 жыл бұрын

Everything is a muzzle loader if you try hard enough

@waterdog9555

3 жыл бұрын

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

@inquisitorkryptman7893

3 жыл бұрын

So Every Californian gun owner is expert?

I can honestly see where they're coming from, when you consider that you will surpass the cost of the gun in ammo by shooting it for 20 minutes straight.

@patheddles4004

3 жыл бұрын

Firing a machine gun for 20 minutes straight is kind of a /lot/ though - among other things, for the Lewis gun that'd be about 200 reloads and about 20x the time it takes to overheat.

I know a dude who spent nearly 10k on a long range rifle, Beautiful thing, Worked great. What did he do with it? He shot shitty surplus and cheap hunting ammo, including chinese steel cased, at a 100 meter range, instead of using proper reloaded ammo or good factory ammo. And im here, 20 years younger, using reloaded 303 in a old enfield, and winning

I didn't realize that they made a straight-pull bolt-action Lewis Gun, that's a very interesting version.

Man, haven't seen this much shaming from a religious figure since I was 12.

@kevinsullivan3448

3 жыл бұрын

But in this case it is well deserved.

I love the face he makes when he says, "British is not doing too well."

High amounts of nitro glycerine in british ammo ( cordite contains contained as much as 30 % ) decomposes over time . Read papers by Norma on powder decomposition . It has been 75 years since produced .

When the video starts with the “fwoop” of a bottle you know it’ll be good

@markbyrd7710

3 жыл бұрын

One of my favorite sounds of all time.

This is my first time seeing a Jam-Action Machine gun.

@juanordonezgalban2278

3 жыл бұрын

Lul

@thanos9846

3 жыл бұрын

When I left the suck in the mid 90s, we were phasing out the M60 E4 for the new 240s. You want to see a jam machine, have a go at an M60 that has been around for a few decades and basically shot itself into pieces. Peanut butter, jam. Peanut butter, jam. Jam jam jam jam...

@henleinkosh2613

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, I can't say the same

@CrusadingSamurai

3 жыл бұрын

Okay that was a funny. Lol

I bought a can of Greek .30-06 in M-1 clips at a gun show, mainly because it was only $30.00 for the can of bandoliers. Yes, this was way before all this ammo craziness, around 2003 or 2005. I had been told it was good ammo. When I shot it, I could tell it was hotter than normal, not bad until the second clip. That one kicked harder than the first. When I checked the fired brass, the primers were flat and I found one that was pierced. I didn't want to mess up my M-1 so I just stopped using it and pulled out another can I had to use that day at the range. I put that can out in my garage under my reloading bench thinking I would pull the bullets and reload it. I forgot about that can until I watched this and Ian mentioned the Greek ammo. It is still out there and I guess I'll do something with it this weekend. Thanks Ian! Whenever I go out shooting in the desert and find brass someone left behind, I grab it. I don't care what it is for or the caliber. I'll take it home check it for cracks and clean it if it is good. What I can't reload or use I'll trade it off for brass I can use. Been doing that for years and have a good collection. You would be surprised what some people leave behind and most of it was fired once.

I wonder if its because some people want to have "authentic" ammo for their guns, no matter what the quality is.

@2K-Tan

2 жыл бұрын

Was thinking this myself.

@johnhighway7399

Жыл бұрын

In this particular case they should be fine with the Greek stuff then since Greece was making ammunition for Britain up until Germany showed up. Meanwhile, the Pakistani ammo makes 0 purchasing sense.

This reminds me of a story from a discord server I’m in. Basically one of the mods decided it was a good idea to get drunk off of mikes hard lemonade and box wine. A few hours later he over-drafted his bank account by like 4K after buying a PKM parts kit from Lithuania.

@garethfuller2700

3 жыл бұрын

So... How did that end? With him returning the parts kit, or coming up with 4K+ of funds?

@korayreyiz3527

3 жыл бұрын

@@garethfuller2700 i imagine he enjoys his new pkm

@king_2829

3 жыл бұрын

You're getting piss named.

@WingMaster562

3 жыл бұрын

They say bad decisions make fantastic stories but holy fuck

@RiddSann

3 жыл бұрын

god damn lmao wild from start to finish

Damn, this is driving Ian to drinking! Don't buy crap ammo, save Ian!

@_malprivate2543

3 жыл бұрын

Nah. He just really likes that Finnish stuff. Soon he'll replace his EDC gun with a puukko.

It's great to see John Keene again I haven't seen him since my grandfather was alive John and Jim ballou (RIP) are the two friends of my grandfather I'll never forget

Really had a laugh at this and as always, sound advice from GJ. Having said that, in South Africa, I am buying military surplus 303br, PMP SA surplus 7.62x51, Pakistani 7.62 x 51Norinco 7.62 in 39 and 51 and all my rifles, bolt action and semi auto all run perfectly. To date after many many range days, I have not had a single miss fire or hang fire. Cheers Ian

Not true with all ancient ammunition. I have a stone that was first used over a thousand years ago, still works perfectly today

Was hoping hes was going to rag on everyone spending a $1 a round for 5.56 and just throwing it all down the range real quick.

@theRPGmaster

3 жыл бұрын

Spending half the time clearing rounds that failed to eject is sure to make the experience last longer.

Your the man Ian. That opening argument, followed with that snifter really put the point on the exclamation

When I got my first AR, I tried several different types of ammo...I have a .223 Wylde barrel, so it can handle the case pressures of 5.56. .223 steel case wouldn’t cycle, .223 brass cycled but it felt weak when firing...brass 5.56 and she runs beautifully, so I use only brass 5.56. Great content and love the topics and info!

TIL that the classic TV and Movie “Machine gun sound” was a Lewis gun.

@Knight-Bishop

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Idk if it was in it, but I remember reading something, some title like "Why all frogs go ribbit". Subject was how limitations and locality meant that whatever sounds weren't foley'd, a lot of clear, early recordings had a small variety of sources and got heavily re-used. The title comes from how most frogs just croak, peep, or squawk, but frogs in older movies made a distinct "ribbit" sound because it was the call of a type of tree frog found in Southern CA. Someone must've had a Lewis Gun when "machine gun firing" was a needed recording. There were a couple different types of earlier jet engines that made the distinct flyby roar-to-shriek sound you'd recognize from almost any jet or rocket early on, perhaps most commonly recognized from being heard in original Looney Tunes, especially Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner bits.

This affects me in absolutely no way or form, and yet I watched from beginning to end...

@alexm566

3 жыл бұрын

same lol, I'll never be able to afford or get a machine gun license

Thats the first bolt action Lewis gun I've ever saw!! A true forgotten weapon.

When I was a young adult, went to the range with friend and his dad to spend all day shooting milsurp bolt actions. We went through two crates of surplus ammo. One was Pakistani surplus 1000ct that was all loose in the wooden crate with around half of the rounds dented, bent, or bullets set back in the neck that we tossed in another box to take to the PD for disposal. The other crate was 1000ct Indian surplus in brown wax paper tied with twine in 10 round packets. Guess which batch had nearly 100% hangfires (including a 15 second hangfire that nearly caused me to crap my pants) and guess which one was an absolute dream to shoot.

Meanwhile us little people are hammering percussion caps out of old Lacroix cans and roll caps🤠

@loquat44-40

3 жыл бұрын

I have not gotten that desperate yet. I just had not counted on the multiple whammies of covid, the election, biden winning, and the lunacy of many american gun owners buying up every round of any cartridge, even all of the 28 ga birdshot loads. Also Remington went bankrupt and was not producing ammo or reloading components for a long time. Some of the Russian and European ammo plants that export ammo were also impacted by covid. So a perfect storm.

@TheWolfsnack

3 жыл бұрын

If you can find roll caps......my country just decided that cap guns are to be banned because they are "gateway weapons"......sigh

@johnharris6589

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWolfsnack where are you not UK I hope

@loquat44-40

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWolfsnack As child my parents did not approve of toy guns and pointing them at others. There was always a pistol in the house, even when that was illegal. Bang bang, your are dead is a horrible game to play.

@geegaw14

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnharris6589 Probably Canada

Everyone knows that "la crème de la crème" is Elbonian surplus.

@captainswoop8722

3 жыл бұрын

It's all surplus they re-mark so if you have any it's double surplus goodfness.

@MrNicoJac

3 жыл бұрын

Really?? I've heard Elbonian ammo can be a bit.... muddy?

@sheldoniusRex

3 жыл бұрын

Just shoot it all before the bullets get eaten by termites.

When you pull bullets from surplus dont forget you can use the powder for plant fertilizer:D

I've wanted to sit down and have a drink with Ian for quite some time. This should be a regular segment.

I love that initial liquor pour. Such is a man of culture.

@ClergetMusic

3 жыл бұрын

Another sign is that he has a globe and knows how to use it.

@JENKEM1000

3 жыл бұрын

Such is a man in the early stages of addiction

@IamOutOfNames

3 жыл бұрын

@@JENKEM1000 Nah, that's his french guns.

Came in for guns, now I need whiskey. Greetings from Finland!

@Treemaster16

3 жыл бұрын

Heyy im in espoo

@knighthaunter

3 жыл бұрын

lol i want that shirt hes got on

@PalleRasmussen

3 жыл бұрын

HERESY! If you are a Finn, you need Vodka!

@echodelta2172

3 жыл бұрын

:DDD

@jujosaar

3 жыл бұрын

@@PalleRasmussen No, Vodka is for russians. We Finns drink Koskenkorva Viina.

It seems like it would be a good idea to chronograph the 3 different rounds to see if you can detect what specification they were loaded to. There were several specifications for .303 ammo, with different pressure parameters - which could be the difference in reliability when used in a machine gun, rather than the quality of the rounds themselves. There is even a .303 Lewis, that was designed specifically for use in the Lewis gun. Many marks, powder types and quantity, and bullet weights and styles are available for the .303 British - all of which are fine in a bolt-action Enfield rifle, albeit with different muzzle velocities - that may not function well in a machine gun, which benefits from ammunition with the proper pressure curve and recoil impulse for highest reliability. You shouldn't, for example, shoot just any .30-06 in a Garand, for similar reasons. Even semi-auto military rifles are designed to fire ammunition designed to operate within a narrow impulse characteristic envelope. Note that such an issue is completely separate from the cost of such surplus ammunition, its country of manufacture, or its presumed "quality.".

Been shooting some Kammarpatron M12 gallery ammo, circa 1941-45, loaded with copper cup projectiles through my Swedish Mauser just to recycle the brass cases for reloading. Been amazed how reliable it has been. De-priming Berdan cases hydraulically is not so hard once you get a system down

That is the most heavy-duty bipod I ever saw.

@defaultusername123

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like cattle fencing lol

@Saint-Bedo

3 жыл бұрын

Put it on the front of a vehicle and you have a bull at lmao

@TylerO_O.

3 жыл бұрын

bult like a folding chair of half a folding table legs

Never seen a bolt action machine gun before...Thanks Ian! 🤣🤣🤣👍🏻✌🏼

@sam__304

3 жыл бұрын

You beat me to that comment👍

@SierraBravo347

3 жыл бұрын

@@sam__304 My Bad! 😁✌🏼

@witmoreluke

3 жыл бұрын

Ian can teach you two things today! kzread.info/dash/bejne/h2pslNuIoLHHlso.html M1915 Howell Automatic Rifle! Bolt action semi-auto!

@Reeber

3 жыл бұрын

@@witmoreluke thanks, was looking for this.

@SierraBravo347

3 жыл бұрын

@@witmoreluke That's why he's Gun Jesus! 🙏🏻🤣

lol...LOVE the opening analogy man. Well said.

Therefore this proves the saying " why settle for less, when the best costs no more."

When I was in High School and bought my first Mauser and couldn't find 7.92 ammo. An old friend and mentor took pity on me, and gave me two boxes of German 1938 vintage tracers, and told me to go have fun. Yeah the one box I opened and shot, hangfires, duds, and that was also the most apt to ricochet stuff I ever seen! One round glancing of a rock in the dirt, coming back over my head! I never tried the other box... Went back to my old friend and mentor who gave me the stuff, and before I could tell him what happened, he asked "What did you learn?" I replied that old surplus ammo is dangerous, he just said "Its best to let kids experience something than tell them, enjoy the other box as a collectible kid." I still have that unopened "collectible" second box.

@randomidiot8142

3 жыл бұрын

Some lessons just need to be learned and not taught. We need more mentors like that.

I was wondering "why isn't he shooting it full auto" Then realised it's misfiring

@patheddles4004

3 жыл бұрын

I got quite a way in before I remembered that it's a machine gun...

Due to the ammo shortage I have been disassembling my cheap berdan primed Surplus plinking ammunition and reloading it with better powder and bullets

Not a machine gun owner, but the real wake-up for me was when, during the same range visit, I shot Walmart-sold Remington "thunderbolt" .22 LR ammo and then Federal Ultramatch .22 LR ammo. I could *hear* how inconsistent the velocity was in the thunderbolt ammo. Some was subsonic, some right at the speed of sound, some supersonic all the way to the target. I was getting 4" groups with it at 50m. The Ultramatch? First time I'd ever had a 1 MOA group with that gun. Because I'd bought into that whole ".22 LR ammo is required to be cheap," thing. It finally dawned on me that the old computer programing adage "garbage in, garbage out" applies to ammo. You will get garbage results from shooting garbage ammo.