this is probably one of the better explanations of Modern art I've seen in a while. but yeah the TL;DR is that Contemporary art is about the conversation, not the piece (granted, the part she skipped is that the movement began because Museums & Art Collectors back then were an even more blatant Money Laundering nepotist operation, so Duchamp was in part protesting to that)

@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr

22 күн бұрын

pretty much there's so much in what we call "trolling" nowadays in contemporary art, what she says about we don't undertand now but eventually is true, Salvador Dali used to sign nipkins for a meal just for the lolz because people repected him in an insane level he would get with it, intelectuals still trying to justify what is a literal s**tpost. And kinda still happening what started as a mock turn to be serious eventually, I rememeber when people started slow down 80s music and call it Vaporwave to actually revive 80s synth and called it synthwave. contemporary art is pushing the boundaries of what is and it's not art, people get mad at it because that's kinda the point.

"Art is an explosion" is a quote by Taro Okamoto, a Japanese artist who saw Picasso's paintings of African sculptures and decided to seek out and create art inspired by ancient Japanese sculptures and paintings.

@kasupy_barrett85

7 ай бұрын

So, what Megumin does is art?

@Artista_Frustrado

7 ай бұрын

i thought that was a quote from Naruto

@Artista_Frustrado

7 ай бұрын

i thought that was a quote from Naruto

@gravity32064

7 ай бұрын

@@Artista_Frustrado Guy's statement that "youth is an explosion'' and Deidara being a character who explodes his own creations are based on Taro Okamoto's statements. By the way, Deidara's C0 blast is in the form of Mr. Okamoto's work "Tower of the Sun''

@merfolkSlivers

6 ай бұрын

I've heard "x should just explode" as a meme for "x should go F itself" as well, e.g. "normies should just explode". So it might be that Raden's actually referring to the post-photographic/postmodern artists (the urinal).

"Art is anything you can get away with" - Marshall McLuhan

Awesome! I really appreciate you clipping and translating her art lessons in this channel they’re super interesting 🙌

This must be pretty challenging to translate such complex concepts. Mad props.

Hoping Raden would discuss the Dadaist Movement as a whole 🤞

That was actually a really good way to explain this! I always feel like contemporary art benefits a lot from active participation and engagement from the audience, so people that aren't used to looking at a piece and finding what it evokes within them and bringing that out will struggle with finding a meaning when it isn't made a lot more obvious - it's definitely a skill that you need to develop over time. She's absolutely right when she says the fact that it doesn't have a definition set in stone means that you can have a lot more fun with it, I hope a lot more people are able to embrace the carefree appreciation of art for the sake of the art itself in future! Thank you so much for clipping and subbing these, I love to see both more deep and accessible art education as well as more clips from some of the newer Holomem that we don't get to see as much of in the EN side!

This is very interesting! So the answer was that the meaning is what you attribute to it. I think me and a lot of people likes a more structured concept of art so that's why a contemporary art is not so well received by the general public. Thank you for the translation!!!

@LoudCommentor

7 ай бұрын

Eh, the answer is that there are a lot of artists exploring the deep things of life, including the question of 'what is Art?' right now. My personal issue with the genre of modern art is not the genre itself, but 1) the many people who imagine themselves to be artists, pretending to be deep, or desperate to just earn a wage, and 2) That when they pose the question, "Is this not Art too?" The resounding answer from most of humanity is, "No, that is not Art," while the rest of humanity can't explain why it is Art. Yes, whether something is Art or not is up to the interpretation, but when most of humanity disagree with you, that's of concern. Maybe 'YOU' (creator), have the wrong definition of art, not the world. And I mean, you could say that about so many works of famous artists... But will we really say that about a banana stuck to a wall?

@harryaudessis3869

7 ай бұрын

@@LoudCommentor I have less problem with that form of Art itself than with the fact that people who make Conceptual Art usually just have one gimmick or one set of ideas that they repeat for the rest of their life, and thus prove the point that they are hacks or one-trick ponies. It's like we're in the age where you can draw from any genre of art and any medium and do whatever you want yet people spend their whole life doing this one thing. Picasso and Dali had their own types of 'troll art' but they were also painting masterpieces at the same time. If your troll art is just a one-off idea in your corpus, that might add some diversity, but if it's the entire corpus itself, that's just sad. It's like contemporary artists could be doing something different for every work - like maybe one day they'll do a troll installation in the same vein as the banana, but the next day they'll be working on a neo-classical painting, and then on an abstract art painting, and then on a pop art painting, and then trying out like some weird origami thing, and then doing anime art etc... but so many contemporary artists are lacking in skill, imagination and diversity.

@Artista_Frustrado

7 ай бұрын

yeah, the idea of Contemporary art is to spark discussions about certain topics; Duchamp's Toilet being the most obvious "ok but what are the Guidelines to call something art? & who has the authority to even decide?" the actual art piece is essentially meaningless in this context (Also that's why many art students love to fall back on Post-Modernism)

@SirRichard94

2 ай бұрын

The problem with post modernism is that it is too all-encompassing, so there doesn't seem to be yet a contemporary way of moving past it. Any return to modern or premodern values are already framed by postmodernism.

@pramitpratimdas8198

18 күн бұрын

The negative reception to contemporary art (mostly reflexive, post modernist ones) is mostly from laypeople, not from art critics, peers and people in the business. Art such as the fountain by duchamp is a response to things happening in the art world that laypeople aren't privy to. ​@@LoudCommentor

Sup bro, internet historian did a video about painting on his incognito mode. Maybe you could translate that for Raden so she can maybe react and expand on it. Just a thought.

@DinnerForkTongue

7 ай бұрын

With Raden, it wouldn't be a reaction so much as a point-by-point analysis. I'd looooove to see it.

Thank you so much for this clip! I learned so much about contemporary art while gaining a whole new respect to Raiden ❤

Woah, she's great.

Bro Thank you so much for this I dont understand japanese and I hate dont understand art lessons of Raden, because seems so interesting but there are not many clips of these topics. Thank you 100 times.

tanks

Bringing a 2D drawing to life, endowing it with multiple language and entertaining the masses is art to me~ hololive tskr

I am not an art enthusiast but this girl is swaying me to be so. Please send help.

When I look at the banana glued to the wall by a piece of tape, I think to myself, “Hey, bananas refusing to stick to walls by themselves could be my issue too.” And I guess I should praise the artist forever for finding such an elegant solution to this particular personal struggle!

@pramitpratimdas8198

18 күн бұрын

Satiric art is still art even if you don't know what it is satirising

Loving this series! Modern art though, less so. Yes, there ARE some fantastic, thought-provoking modern art pieces out there, exploring both the shallow and deep things of life. But there are also a whole bunch of artists pretending to be deep when they are not. And they might be asking, "Is this art? Is my work art?" And man, the answer of myself and many, many others is a resounding, "No." Not that the whole _genre_ is not art, but these particular works? No, they are not Art.

@cocoapixels

26 күн бұрын

So art is determined by what the majority of people consider art? Do you even know who Duchamp is? He made legitimately beautiful pieces of art. So did banana guy. The reason we care about the toilet and banana is because these already established talented artists were consciously rebelling against the scene at the time. What if I consider the urinal art, is my opinion invalidated because*you* say so, because society says so and that alone determines what art is? I enjoy art I've made and have shown to nobody. It's not art because nobody else has seen it? I enjoy art that most people hate. It's not art because majority = good? The reason we are even having this conversation is because those things were put in a museum and now people are having these discussions and reflecting on what art is, and what determine what makes something art. So didn't the urinal do exactly what it was intended to do? The fact that people are angry and protesting that these things aren't art, well now you're thinking about what isn't and is art, a conversation you might now have had if not for such pieces. Ironically, you are doing exactly what the artist intended by making such bold statements and causing me to reflect and challenge your shallow assessment of what art is. Anybody can make art and anything can be art. It is not a concept that can be gatekept by thousands of dollars or however much time was put into it or whether critic or society think it's good. It's the cheapest, easiest and greatest freedom we are ALL privy to.

@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr

22 күн бұрын

LoL so much in the current art movement is to challenge what is art itself... To make you mad about it is so much of the whole point they try to make across, it´s literal trolling. The thing is you are free to not like it and look for someone else that actually makes what you think it´s beatiful, but most people are like dictators they can´t live their own life without trying to control others.