🚨 *Addendum* 🚨 - I can't electronic my way out of a breadboard, so apologies for any basic EE mistakes! I just want to build the devices, not actually use them in circuits or whatever 😇 - In the PN/MSM animation, the electron/hole move in the wrong direction. Oops! Just pretend I know how to animate things correctly 😅 - Copper (I) == Cu2O and Copper (II) == CuO: This is very confusing! But it relates to the charge of the copper cation. Oxygen has a -2 charge, and in Cu2O there are two coppers per oxygen so they each carry a +1 charge hence (I) in the formula. CuO only has one copper per oxygen, so it carries a +2 charge and (II) in the formula. Very confusing to read out loud though 🫠

@mihcael

21 күн бұрын

you better make the readout circuits from scratch as well

@KaiseruSoze

21 күн бұрын

NP. (I couldn't pass that up :)

@zyeborm

20 күн бұрын

Your animations are great man. I never really *got* how the junction stopped the conduction or how to pronounce schotty lol but this really helped.

@andrewh2341

20 күн бұрын

It’s ok, we still like you 😊

@TymexComputing

20 күн бұрын

Thank you for erratum

The average selling price of a CMOS Image Sensor is currently just above $3/sensor. The semiconductor industry is insane.

@monad_tcp

21 күн бұрын

its amazing that the price of anything really does only depend on the amount of it we're able to produce

@R.Daneel

21 күн бұрын

Transistors are now "free" to any reasonable degree of precision. Blows my mind. Even in 1960, they were about $1 each (~$8 today) which is STILL staggeringly cheap! And yet we found enough room to drop the cost by a factor of over a BILLION.

@whyjnot420

21 күн бұрын

@@monad_tcp Incorrect. As everyone should know that is only half of the matter. The other half is the demand for the product. Supply and demand is the name of the game, not supply. Seriously, wth? How can you not know this?

@DisorderedArray

21 күн бұрын

​@@whyjnot420it's quite obvious that he is assuming a given level of demand.

@whyjnot420

21 күн бұрын

@@DisorderedArray They stated "only". They are objectively wrong because of that word.

It's insane that there are *multiple* people on youtube doing DIY semiconductor fabrication. Not only that, but you're getting sponsors from industry instrument manufacturers, instead of mobile games and VPN providers

@nikkiofthevalley

21 күн бұрын

I mean, given the type of people watching these videos, it's probably effective advertising.

@jdos2

20 күн бұрын

I love that there are multiple people working on the tooling too - atkelar rebuilt a curve tracer being used here to demonstrate the elements - that's pretty deep arcana but in a different dimension.

@multiarray2320

20 күн бұрын

what other youtubers do this type of content? asking for a friend :)

@zyeborm

20 күн бұрын

lol I was just thinking the mobile game sponsor spot into would be funny, you know what I do while I'm waiting for my electron beam lithography setup to etch tiled panels? Idleking 9000! But no this sponsorship is amazing and their involvement with the project is great. It's the only sponsor spot I've ever seen where I learnt like 5 different new aspects of physics in 2 minutes.

@waitfor2050

20 күн бұрын

@@multiarray2320 there is projectsinflight and sam zeloof, and jeri ellsworth, but sam and jeri stopped uploading. so there're only like 2 people on youtube making semiconductors right now.

"DIY" and "semiconductor" are not words I normally see in the same sentence. tbh it is pretty awesome.

@larslindgren3846

21 күн бұрын

There was a time when end-users of radio revivers made their own schottky diodes diy on a daily basis. Each time you move the whisker on a crystal detector you make a new semiconductor diode.

@samihawasli7408

20 күн бұрын

Wel sure. Whose DYI lab doesn’t have a SEM, sputter tool, photolithography bay… etc.. speaking of, my LN2 delivery is here. gtg

@rakinkazi9780

20 күн бұрын

Wait till you hear about Sam Zeloof

@ViktorRzh

20 күн бұрын

Technically speaking - tech behind 4004 is roughly is in DIY range. There was a guy who managed to pull out a transistor grid, but is yet to go further. But he managed to fab some electronic guitar stuff.

@arthurmoore9488

20 күн бұрын

@@samihawasli7408 LN2 is actually pretty cheap and easy to get. Some welding supply stores have it on hand, and commercial suppliers like Airgas sell to individuals. You're also forgetting that milling machine in the background. I wish I had one of those, but they are **not** cheap.

I just love the fact that a high tech corporation created a bleeding edge microscopy technology and said to themselves: "We need an influencer to promote this product." Whaddaya know there actually is such a guy, and I follow him on YT. The internet is beautiful sometimes.

@linecraftman3907

21 күн бұрын

It is the right crowd of people to advertise to

@jimzielinski946

21 күн бұрын

​@@linecraftman3907something tells me I couldn't afford such a toy for a hobby.

@linecraftman3907

21 күн бұрын

@@jimzielinski946 well I believe it's aimed at people working in a lab with big bucks

@Beregorn88

21 күн бұрын

@@jimzielinski946 very few people do. On the other hand, they probably plan to sell just a couple of them every year, so if even only two out of the 400'000 followers work for an institution in the market for such device, then it is a massive win for them.

@jac6255

21 күн бұрын

​@@jimzielinski946 who's saying you're their target audience

"I hope it was interesting...", really? This is just mindblowing... yet again

@VincentGroenewold

20 күн бұрын

@@JobyFluorine-ru4bd You must be fun at parties.

@PJ-oe6eu

20 күн бұрын

​@@JobyFluorine-ru4bd The ego must be fed. You're smarter than anyone here, and making condescending responses proves it, soon everyone will know about your superior intellect and you will finally be happy.

@andersjjensen

14 күн бұрын

@@PJ-oe6eu LOL. Savage. But appropriate.

@fatitankeris6327

8 күн бұрын

​@JobyFluorine-ru4bd I don't think this is sixth grade level.

Your hair cut speaks volumes about the complexity and frustration of this project :D

@zyeborm

20 күн бұрын

I do hope he is able to find time for a trim for the next one. Only because people will judge the content from the creators looks. Also I hope he's able to take a nap ;-) delay the video is fine man, or make them in smaller chunks? We'll be here. We appreciate the effort you put in but don't blow yourself up doing this for us yaknow?

@clown134

20 күн бұрын

thats the first thing i noticed when starting this video immediately told me this is going to be a crazy one

@BreakingTaps

20 күн бұрын

I shan't cut my hair until a working camera is complete! 😆

@clown134

20 күн бұрын

@@BreakingTaps it's a good look imo!

@SarahKchannel

20 күн бұрын

@@BreakingTaps We shall call you Gandalf from here forth !

At an (amateur) astrophotography conference, the keynote talk was given by a "professional" astronomer (e.g., he got paid to do it, rather than spending his own money) who described a sensor and camera his research group built. It could do single photon detection AND also measure the wavelength of each photon's detection event. There is some solid state physics phenomenon whereby they would fabricate a feature on the chip they designed, such that when it interacted with a photon, it's effective capacitance changed by an amount proportional to the wavelength. So they would fabricate an array of LC pairs, organized as pixels on the wafer. The intention was that each pixel had a different, unique resonant frequency. Then they would pump the device with a broadband noise spectrum and then look at the resulting spectrum with an SDR receiver. They would observe a spectrum with a bunch of notches in it, corresponding to the resonant frequency of each pixel. When a photon interacted with one of the pixels, the notch in the spectrum would shift according to the wavelength. How fast you could run the FFT in the SDR software gave you the time-tagging precision of the detection event. He described the many iterations of fabricating his detector (with a 64x64 or maybe just 32x32 array). Some pixels would have the same resonant frequency as others, sort of aliasing them. Other pixels were, of course dead. Etc. I don't recall if the detector needed to be cryogenicly cooled in the camera body or not.. Many things were learned the hard way. I chatted with him after the fact and told him he had the most interesting job in the world, comprising: astrononmy, solid state physics, semiconduction fabrication, software defined radio and, of course, grant writing 🙂 At the end of all this, they did get to observe the pulsar in the Crab Nebula and time-tag those observations with simultaneous radio telescope observations to confirm the direction relationship which hadn't been done previously. What a long, long road to that result. Thanks for your video, it was really quite amazing to see all these fabrication steps actually done right before your eyes. And it gives me just a hint of the "art" beyond the "techniques" that goes on in modern semiconductor fabs.

@wal-3732

18 күн бұрын

If there is a video on youtube i would like to watch it.

@lmamakos

17 күн бұрын

@@wal-3732 Unfortunately, the presentation wasn't recorded.

@shashankdholakia5831

15 күн бұрын

Was that a Microwave Kinetic Inductance Detector by chance?

This is absolutely insane to be able to do this DIY outside of an industrial setting. I've never seen anything like this attempted, amazing!

@BreakingTaps

21 күн бұрын

🥰

Once every few years someone drops a new diy semiconductor vid and its the my favorite thing

This honestly insane to me how you were able to just fab a working “Chip” essentially. Im IC Layout Engineer working for a major Semiconductor Company and the amount of things you got correct in terms of the process (especially the double layer deposition for stepwise etching) while just studying a nature paper is honestly impressive. Im guessing your problems with the misalignment at the end have something to do with your process, you need to do some test alignments and see how “offset” from the grid your Cupric Oxide Layer is from your aluminum layer. Then you can just design your “masks” around that offset. We usually have alignment marks for these sort of limitations in Manufacturing. We mostly design Power Management IC’s in our Design Center, so I can’t say for sure if your MSM array will work, but Im hoping to see more like this soon. Great Job!

@trumanhw

6 күн бұрын

Your comment should be stickied.

Your ability to go past the part where Copper II is Cu and Copper I is Cu2 without snark is one of the many ways you're better than me.

@jacobblotkamp2945

6 күн бұрын

I am super annoyed at that naming scheme smh IS IT THAT HARD???

@archuserbytheway

5 күн бұрын

​@@jacobblotkamp2945 it's about some property with electrons

he's got that medieval blacksmith look locked down, give him a leather apron and a hammer

@Roxor128

19 күн бұрын

Maybe some of the Taiwanese descendents of them are working at TSMC right now?

@nin1ten1do

17 күн бұрын

roses aRE RED violet blue.. there is and asian beter than you.. liek hat

Absolutely incredible, even before demonstrating the sensor arrays, this is one of the most impressive single-person projects I've seen - that's a significant fraction of the technology required for a usable semiconductor process (and not even a huge node, 800nm is totally functional), just developed by one person! I can't wait to see where this goes :D (Yes, I know about Sam Zeelof's ICs, but unlike his approach, this video includes making the semiconductor as well - basically a SOI process, but not silicon)

@DaveEtchells

21 күн бұрын

Back when I was in the semiconductor research biz, DARPA was pushing to get to a 1.25 _micron_ fab node (dating myself 😂)

@The_1ntern3t

21 күн бұрын

​​@@DaveEtchells The fact that anything measured in microns even exists is crazy enough. That it is considered large is just insane if you really think about it.

@trumanhw

6 күн бұрын

Exactly. To include people making EDM machines at home ... this is still SO much bigger. A compendium of knowledge required ... and yet, it's still but a subset of this genius's generalist knowledge. Un. Real.

Can't believe how much technology has evolved. Like there are millions of similar stuff in your phone cameras right now and don't even get me started on processors

I know your lab is significantly better than a lot of home labs out there, but it still gives me hope that one day we'll have DIY electronics from scratch. I love the thought of just plonking down a box in the corner and sending it a file and a few hours later a new chip.

@Brandon-lf7yt

18 күн бұрын

I’ve thought about this too, surely something like 400 nm wouldn’t be too difficult to automate, then just package like a bamboo printer.

Its SOO cool to see topics I studied in university applyed in practice - learning just the theory and doing it all on paper made it seem so bland and boring. But every time I see someone actually DO the theory, I am just stunned and miss this part of my life ... thanks for bringing it back to me

In case you all wanted to know, here is a list of metal-to-oxide adhesion layers: Ti, Cr, Al, Ta, Mo, Nb, V, & Hf. I have used Ti, Cr, Ta, and Mo in my chips so far, for adhesion.

@johnrom8787

17 күн бұрын

What about Sn, In and Zn?

I work at a major semiconductor fab on some cutting-edge lithography tooling. Intel High-NA team if you want to see the machines themselves. I love seeing semiconductor tech start to show up in the DIY space. I'm hoping we see somebody try to home-brew a 4004 in the near future.

Wow, you've come so far from your early videos of rebuilding a mill to this! I can't wait to see your 0.000016 mega pixel camera. On a completely different note, am I the only one who sees a Trojan Horse in the short circuit at 27:13 ? I guess it's a bit of a Rorschach test.

10:16 that fluid simulation must have taken a long time

@luipaardprint

21 күн бұрын

It shouldn’t be too bad anymore in blender with a decent computer.

@trulyinfamous

20 күн бұрын

It was really coarsely simulated so it wouldn't take nearly as long as you would think.

A+ work here! In high school I made circuit boards by using toner and etching with HCL, this is truly several steps up from that. One day I dream of having my own lab to be a mad scientist like you

There was a thread on twitter where people in the industry were discussing how expensive oscilloscopes when turned on create unexpected voltage on the probes with some destroying the test object and how there are recall campaigns due to this issue.. Fascinating work as usual, mate!

DIY semiconductors are my favorite type of videos. Want to say that your attempt at a full device was a great satisfactory ending for this work, and I'm really looking forward to you finishing it

Most interesting ad I've seen on youtube

Nice DIY photosensitive fuses. Now I can finally know if the lights were on when the fuse blew! 💡

@trumanhw

6 күн бұрын

DIY photosensitive ^ _thermite_ fuses. (maybe)

Seeing how much work it takes to make such a tiny sensor really makes me appreciate just how much work goes in to modern computers. It's remarkable that we can make the chips we do.

This nano stuff is fascinating. Even though these scales are so tiny that they escape my comprehension, it's so fascinating to look at. 27:55 now I wanna see a collab with the SloMoGuys to see what the hell is happing there at 100k FPS.

Every time I see one of your videos I'm more and more impressed with your knowledge and skill with this kind of thing!

This video is awesome. Form the lighting to the rendered diagrams. And the subject is super cool

This is the first video of yours I have watched/come across and I just want to commend the detail and patience in describing not just the processes and intent, but the tools in use, and dude... way to save 30 grand! You burned over that so quickly but seriously that alone was so impressive!

Great video. And this is only the first stage. After that there is all the electronics to actually transfer the pixels, manage exposure time, HDR, serial communication with external IC, etc. Makes you realize the complexity of these devices that we take for granted.

Absolutely amazing from one end to the other. The AFM-FTIR thing is super cool! I made a simple AFM in grad school, back in the early days, so interesting to see how many different directions that idea has gone.

At this point your videos are my favourite thing to watch. Incredible effort, and surely an entertaining outcome. Thanks for all that you're doing!

Very cool , i can't belive what you achived in basically a home lab . Can't wait for the next video

Felt like a three minute video. It has genuinely been a while since I've been so immersed and attentive during a video, thank you.

Man this is the video that I've wanted to see you make for a while now. Very cool stuff, can't wait to see the stuff you do next with diy image sensors!

Really cool. Been really fascinated with how far copper semis can be taken since I saw keystones videos on a copper oxide solar panel.

These videos really do a great job of inspiring me. These really help quantize intimidating topics like "DIY semiconductors". Amazing content, keep it up!

Just came across this channel, and I must say I'm blown away by your knowledge and skills! I shall continue to watch your other videos now!

I love your diy probe station mover. Reminds me of grad school where we did a similar hack to move about entire microscope using some ball bearing drawer slides and an x-y manipulator

Oh man... this makes me hopeful for more home fabrication tools in the future. Really amazing work you've done here!

1:10 This may be a stupid question, but how can the semiconductor be naturally p-type? What is acting as an acceptor in undoped CuO? 3:40 If the copper - after solidstate dewetting - follows the underlying Silicon crystal structure, then what happened to your Oxide layer? 3:55 looks particularly interesting. What as the big blobs and why are they not merged with the little blobs? A thicker SiO2 layer may have helped as well. And last but not least, label your KLayout layers god damnit! So we can be even more hyped for the next project! KLayout also has a macro interface. If you want to process variations of the same layout (e.g. with different spacing) you (or I) can easily write you some code to do that. Hit me up it that would help.

@BreakingTaps

20 күн бұрын

- Grain of salt in that I'm a bit hazy here too, but my understanding is that both copper oxides are p-type due to intrinsic defects, namely copper vacancies in the lattice (just happens naturally as it grows, since the energy required to form a vacancy is pretty small for this material). These missing copper cations make the neighboring oxygens eager to gain a few electrons, so it acts as a positive charge charrier. But my understanding is that they aren't very mobile since they are tied to the oxygen orbitals, and have lower performance than impurity doped semiconductors. There's also some contribution due to adsorbed oxygen on the surface, a few papers show effects based on oxygen concentration/vacuum/etc - Good question, I'm not sure! Possible I didn't grow a thick enough oxide, or it wasn't very high quality (pinholes, etc)? It was closer to a dry oxidation than wet, so I don't expect the oxide was very thick. - I didn't think to EDS the sample at the time, so unfortunately I'm not sure. But just based on the BSD signal (not shown in the video) I think it's all copper. So likely not a contaminant. There are protocols out there which show you can grow copper oxide nano-wires by long duration furnace treatment. Perhaps this is the start of a similar process? Really not sure! - KLayout keeps deleting my layer labels 😭 I'm probably doing something wrong though, I'm very new to klayout. Will take a look at the macro capabilities, and thanks for the offer! Might take you up on that! :)

I’m super impressed with your skills! This was an amazing project and beautiful presented!

I've been trying to explain how silicon manufacturing works to my dad and this and your MEMS video will help him understand some of it, thanks. If you ever find the time or need to make a short'ish (10-20 minutes) video about it, please do so. You're explanations and graphics make it much easier to understand.

Very cool! You're rapidly approaching Applied Science level of projects.

Man this is the first sponsor spot I have ever been *invested* in. I learnt a bunch of stuff and that tech is AMAZING. Kudos to them for being so open with how it all works and for sponsoring you to do this cool project. Only suggestion might be a little blurb on why this copper semiconductor photo sensor is special other than being fabricatable? Unless that is the prime attraction? I just saw "high performance" in the title of the paper was all.

As usual this channel is absolutely insane. Props yto your progress man

This is astounding. Thank you so much for sharing! ❤

This is so amazing!!! Subscribed to follow your efforts! Wishing you the best and success in building this sensor!

Dude this work was insane, very good! Amazing attention to detail

Wow thank you. Learned a ton and appreciate your approach to setbacks.

Absolutely stunning graphics and visuals. Great video!!

This is AWESOME!!! 20/10, thanks for the great video! ALSO, thanks for introducing me to the PiFM technique! that is AMAZING!

super cool! great work and I can imagine how much patience required to get this far. Lovely work on the animations too!

this is so cool man, I really enjoy that there's people doing this stuff

Absolutely incredible! And gorgeous footage & graphics

As usual, absolutely amazing and lots of relatable moments 😅 keep it up!

those renders are so cool! amazing work

Such great content and so nicely produced. I was not at all interested before I started watching, and now I am fascinated and intrigued

Interesting. Love the timely paper reviews mixed in.

Always a pleasure when this channel has new content.

wow - I can barely fathom most of the science in this, but I need to see where this project goes. Subscribed, and godspeed!

This is a really awsome project. I wish you all the success you need for this. :)

Awesome stuff, thank you!

Genuinely a brilliant, very interesting video. Thank you for the very hard work.

I know I've watched dozens of videos over the years for how digital sensors work, but I swear to god this is the first video I've seen in my life that actually explains the scientific details in terms that ordinary people can understand ❤

@trumanhw

6 күн бұрын

Sure, but also, instead of just saying "then this happens, then this then that, and then this" ... Shows the actual process (engineering) and associated challenges. Just so much more relatable.

this was so mind-boggling, it took me 3 sessions to go through the video. Amazing stuff there, sir

I do wish more lab equipment manufacturers dld more things like this -- this is absolutely the right audience for those machines.

This video was uploaded 5 hours ago. To think about the precious time, I have wasted doing something else besides watching your video... Thank you for uploading something just in time to make this day an enjoyable one, after spending countless hours on a task that could have easily been automated. You literally saved my day!

I can't believe you're able to do DIY semiconductor fab, AND do it while making a great video. Incredible stuff as always dude!

@trumanhw

6 күн бұрын

Seriously. This is IQ 160+ range. Just requires being able to learn such a broad range of subjects well enough to really do them, actually anticipate, RECOGNIZE, and verify the actual epistemic uncertainty ... and device solutions to overcome those. And then explain it all so my far lower IQ can grasp it all.

just WOW!! mindblowing 🤩 optoelectronics is just such a marvellous matter and you did it at "home". Kudos to you

Unreal ! I can't get enough of this stuff please keep up the great work but don't lose you sanity !.....cheers.

Very nice, good job. The alignment crosses at the end had me in tears.

Your channel is amazing man, much respect.

Your videos are very unique and you're highly skilled, thank you for such interesting content

In high school I took a printing a publishing course, and part of it was on screen printing. We used photo lithology to make the stencils. You would lay out the pattern in light sensitive paper, as a negative, and then shine laser on it for 20 minutes. After placing the cued light sensitive paper on the cloth screen, you could wash away with a forced water the non-protected areas and therefore create the stencil to screen print through. I'm sure it's not the modern method for screen printing stencils, but it was cool to do by hand, and so many of those principles of lithology carry over.

Thanks for an amazing video! You should have tours of your lab for people interested in taking some classes on how to do this. This is pretty awesome!

Im a Student in a German University of Applied Sciences and studing Elektrical Engineering and i had a course last semester about semiconductors. This is so amazing. Thanks allot

Absolutely amazing work! I am speechless.

This was a bloody fascinating video, well done mate!

Very interesting!! You could update your furnace by putting a modern PID temperature controller on it. They support multiple different kinds of thermocouples, support hysteresis settings. Not sure about the internals of what controls the filament in your furnace but people wire in PID controllers to their espresso machines with great results and even some data logging functions. Keep these awesome videos coming! I learn so much from them.

It would be great to have a light wavelength sensor that could be used to monitor a variable LED output source. Accurate LED wavelength calibration could help identify variations in color blindness. It also could be used to measure the color phase shift with those suffering from macula degeneration. (green LED light phase shifted to blue inside the eye thru the macula)

The age of home lithography is here and I am all here for it

Seriously well done.

Applied physics are the coolest. Thank you for sharing this increadible project with us and your time spend into producing this video.

its incredible to me that someone figured all this out

Please continue ! Cannot wait to see more of this

Great job, looking forward to the other results!

I have a whole new perspective of digital sensors watching you build one pixel. My phone has 64 MP Sony sensor. Huge thanks my friend.. keep at it.

that is fascinating, i subscribed not only because of the electron microscope images in practical use

You, Sir, just earned a subscriber! Doing this as "a random youtuber" is NUTS! I thought "Breaking Taps" would be a machinist or automotive channel, but looking through your back catalogue tells a very different story. Can't wait for more!

I love your channel, your work is incredible

I love learning about the magic sparky rocks. Thanks

Great content as always, but the real gem was introducing me to PhysicsInFlight. Finally understanding the underlying principles makes watching videos like yours so much more enjoyable.

@BreakingTaps

20 күн бұрын

Happy to share a cool new channel! It was a very helpful video to me as well, helped solidify some questions I had about how all the energy levels and bands work. Really excited to see what he does in the future, each video is building out a nice little semiconductor fab!

You can build a curve tracer yourself with a signal gen, oscilloscope, resistor and class AB DC audio amplifier. Using the volume knob for adjusting the voltage. You may need to use two channels and set the scope to differential, maybe float the output, and create a star ground for probing to eliminate noise.

Awesome learning experience! Thanks for the video!

Very nice work and video! Thank you so much!

What that VIsta scope does is incredible. Crazy

Very incredible DIY work, I really enjoyed it!