The fact with Luminar AI you still have complete control, you do not need to use the AI features. The AI learns as you use it and overall I prefer Skylum Luminar IV and AI for 99% of my processing. including my astro stuff. Plus this is only the first version of the software, Skylum have a habit of improving their stuff over time.

Definitely NOT a fan. Their whole "Just replace the entire freaking sky!" sales pitch is very off putting. And in any event, how is it any better than the old (free!) NIK collection plug-in?

Watching this video as I’m setting up my skyguider pro for my first night of imaging ever.

@1Brick2Brick

3 жыл бұрын

Hope you had clear sky's bro!!

As someone who has limited time to edit images, this might be a help to me.

Hey I already use Luminar AI for my Landscape photography and I’m glad you have put this video up as I’ve often wondered what deep sky improvements you could make from luminar. I’ll give it a go,Great video as always..Thanks.

You just made me put another thing on my wish list. Ha!! Thanks for the vids... Keep em coming.

Interesting software Trevor, I think it does really make things pop a bit more which as you say would be great for eye-catching social media posts, and often those who don't image themselves (family members etc) like pictures that way too!

Wow! What a Software! Thanks Trevor!

Yes I have used it from the beginning and find it great and sometime easier than using layers...great finishing in specific regions using the brush.

Another great video Trevor thank you. Always been curious with Luminar and it’s capabilities. Probably not for me personally. Would love to see a video of you using Affinity Photo tackling one of your unprocessed images.

Great Video Trevor! It looks like a promising software and I might just try it out!

Excellent as always

As you say, the AI tools can be great to add a “look” to a nightscape image or perhaps for enhancing contrast in deep sky shots. Once you have some settings you like you can save them as user favourites. I’ve got a number created with the previous Luminar 4 which I had to import into AI. I apply them onto a separate stamped layer to blend them in with Lighten mode and reduced opacity, to add Orton effects. Or add them as smart filters. But do watch what the AI tools are doing down at the pixel level. With DeNoise AI I find that yes, it removes noise, but can add a lot of patchy artifacts. The AI hasn’t been trained on starfields and deep sky objects it seems, so it can apply effects very unevenly. Luminar might be similar on some images. Pixel peep! I suggest always applying them in a way you can remove them, or back them off or mask them. Clear skies!

Thank you Trevor for this very informative video! I’m using Luminar AI for general purpose photography and I haven’t used it for astrophotography yet. I’ve also seen a tutorial for another software, Affinity Photo which I thought was only for general purpose photos as well but this one even supports stacking too! I love the simplicity of Luminar AI and I found it to be significantly faster than the previous version 4 that I also have. Keep up making amazing videos!

Great video Trevor!

I really like what I see of the Luminar AL. Tools use is nice!!! Very nice video!!! (A subscriber).

Hey Trevor, Very informative. Do you find this easier than PS? Is APT your preferred automation software? Have you tried NINA? If so what do you think? Also best recommendation for mount for Lx200 12 inch scope with all the relevant equipment. 75 to 100lbs. payload. Really enjoy your videos on KZread! Thanks Michael By the way, How's Rudi?

Hey, loved the video, I might give it a shot on one of my photos. Btw do you have any tips on how to polar align a Skywatcher Pro Star Adventurer more efficiently and effectively to get rid of those Star trails?

Hi Trevor, thank you for this video I have Luminar 4 and maybe thinking to upgrade to AI, it seems that they both do similar things. Nevertheless, I just added Astropanel 5 to my PS pluging, are you thinking to do a review of this software? Thanks in advance.

I think this is a good software!New era on editing photos!✌🏻

Thanks, Trevor. I like the idea of using Luminar AI possibly for final “tweaks” as you have suggested.

You need to demo the new Astro software they put into Afinity Photo. Game Changer.

@herrl3107

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I would also like to see a review for the Astro Stacking Mode in Affinity Photo.

It's exactly why I use luminar 3 at the end of my landscape astrophoto. Usually it always gives more mood than what I usually manage in affinity and capture one

Thanks Trevor - I'm more of an all around family photographer and love Luminar for my wildlife and sports and wildlife photos. I go out about 6 trips a year (camping weekends mostly) to take some milky way photos and was hoping you had a better review of how to use Luminar for those types of shots - really don't want to spend the never ending subscription on PS. Thanks for the video.

And if the image is really bad, you can replace the sky completely! :D

@geonerd

3 жыл бұрын

Yea. That's an insult to any photographer who actually tries to make an interesting image. I'll never buy this godawful software.

@oooo-tp2vq

3 жыл бұрын

@@geonerd i tried the free 30day trial... its pretty fun to screw around with you have complete control to edit like LR or Ps but i totally agree the sky replacement is just complete crap

@mik_88

3 жыл бұрын

Garbage decision made.

I see this software as an addendum to already processed photos. I love what I can do with other software, but I see this as something that can give my efforts an added "visula punch", which takes it into the artistic realm. There are the purists who prefer 'actual', and there are the visionaries who appreciate what one can do with the wonders of the universe. This software fits a nice 'inbetween' realm. Thank you for the demo. P.S. I am a Mac/Apple person (preferably), but have enough experience to use PC. Does this software come in an Apple platform edition?

I have Luminar 4 for my daytime photo editing. I tried it for AP and came to the same conclusion you did: great for putting on final touches and enhancements. Not really the best for editing the "just-out-of-the-stacker" data.

I wound up buying the entire Skylum suite...you are spot on about it being beginner friendly...at the time I also had full Adobe subscription on student discount....I found luminar to be more fun...I was a total novice but I was able to stumble and blunder my way into final photos that were just hands down better than the original...the key point here is FUN...many of my projects wound up in the trash can, many were restarted from scratch...but along the way I began to understand some of the mechanics that were working behind the scenes....my pc died and I had a hard time even remembering the softwares name...but searching through my email I found my order and was able to restore my purchased software to my née pc...on the regular photography side...you can take 20 or 30 pounds off of your subjects which everybody loves...haha

Has some interesting looking features, not sure I'll be making the move but good to see other other software. Cheers Trevor.👍

I have a question, I stacked my first ever orion nebula shots in Deepskystacker and now which format should I save it ?? And also it is black and white so how to get those original colors back. Please help me out, I have tried it in PS but can't get those colors.

I am getting into landscapes with milkyway images. Using Luminar I am struggling to make the milkyway pop. Could you do a demo using Luminar? I would like to see what yiu can achieve or should I really be looking at using learning photoshop?

Finally a tutorial using Luminar, I've been iffy about AI as it has just been released but have been with Luminar for 3-4 years now. I like Luminar 4 for editing, have no complaints so I might give this a go. I just need clear skies so I can capture some more data, missed Orion because of clouds. Oh I could have gone out and shot single shots from a tripod here and there but I have a new Skywatcher HEQ5 Pro that has only been out 5 times since receiving it 6 months ago (damn new gear curse). Thank You Trevor. 😎🍻🍣🇬🇧

I likewise bought Luminar AI....before I realized Photoshop already had a Sky Replacement function which is what Luminar AI impressed me with. Frankly, I so rarely dabble with other plugins that I tend to forget I've got Luminar, but the few times I did play around a little on an astrophotography image, I was intrigued by the results and just need to return to it with a bit more diligence sometime.

Could all the same results be made using Affinity Pro? I'm willing to learn at the expense of spending more time to get the same results.

What telescope did you use to capture the nebula at 8:30?

i agree 100p with the art and flair comments! i'd be interested to see on how all of the 'denoise' tools stack up against each other: luminar, astro tools plug in scripts in PS, camera raw sliders, DSS, etc. since noise is really the nemesis of AP processing.

I use Luminar AI but after all the heavy lifting is done, for that I use affinity photo version 1.9 they added a Start to finish deep sky photo editing ability.

Similar functions to NIK plug in for photoshop. I've found NIK & Topaz Ai NR are invaluable for Astro processing!

That ending slide edit was quality

I was really excited for this because I've tried to use luminar. Disappointing to hear it's not so good to use beginning to finish deep sky photos. I don't edit enough to justify 'subscribing' to a program (photoshop). I have tried in the past to follow along with your PS editing trying to translate adjustments to luminar with dismal results.

So cool!!

@skydreamer5956

3 жыл бұрын

YES!

I haven't gotten into astro photography yet. I intend to in the future though. I bought this luminar ai back in December when it was on sale and was able to combine a discount code with the sale price so it didn't cost me that much. I feel ripped off by them. It's like a lead in to get you to buy more "templates". Sure you can create your own and use them, just like you can create presets in lightroom and photoshop and use them in one click. But I've found that for landscapes and bird photos that I do luminar ai is an inferior product to lightroom and photoshop. I thought the sky replacement would be great, but it does no better than the one in photoshop. The sky augmentation in luminar is crude and you can only add one object such as a balloon, or flock of birds or airplane or whatever is in the collection that they have or whatever you add to the collection of objects. But, you can add only one of them! You can't add a hot air balloon, and a flock of birds. Not unless you save the image, then open it again in luminar, to add the other object and when you do that, you can't adjust the first object because it's now baked into the image! It's just as easy to add whatever you want in photoshop using png files with transparent background or black background and blend modes on the objects. I've used it two or three times and I don't even use it anymore, I wasted money buying it and wish I had that money back.

Are we allowed to use your images for wallpapers? if yes how can I download? Thanks

Acompanho o canal aqui do Brasil 🇧🇷

How far into any processing does the image not represent what was actually there?

Nice video Trevor

Ok, Luminar folks, I have been using Luminar 2018 for years and Trevor has exposed the deficiencies of Luminar when it comes to astroimaging. Affinity Photo "got it" by adding an astro-stacking function so why not Luminar? As it is, my workflow is 1) Affinity photo for stacking lights, darks, bias and flats 2) Import the final image into Luminar and work with it there. PLEASE, add this star-stacking feature AND a star-removal tool that allows us to work with the nebulas then add in stars for the final image... what say ye, Luminar? Thanks, Trevor, for this video, well done!

I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned Instagram. Seems to be about adding drama to a photo, which is mostly to get it noticed, and the result may be more "art" than "photograph".

I haven't used Luminar but did buy the Topaz AI Suite as a Christmas gift. Lightroom and Photoshop is what I have used, and as you know, the Topaz software is much more simplistic or minimal, while surprisingly effective. Perhaps this is the future of development software.

@JoeHTX

3 жыл бұрын

I bought Topaz Sharpen and Topaz Denoise, and I use both of the regularly. They work good. I wasted money on luminar ai though, that program is a total waste.

Hi Trevor, I'm new in astrophotography. What do think about GIMP for postprocessing?

@bennybooboobear3940

3 жыл бұрын

I’m no trevor, but personally GIMP is an awesome software!

Can you do a video were you show a raw image of what each space object look like with any editing?

can it stack or layer images?

It looks like really interesting software for last step tweaks but I wish a company like this would make software specifically to take the Deep Sky Stack, and bring it all the way to the end point. For me adjusting the curves and coaxing the right contrast and detail out of a DSS stack is the hardest part; and I love your guide for doing it in photoshop but even with that help it's still a lot of work and trial and error and the learning curve is steep. If an AI program could anticipate and ease the process of progressively "narrowing down" those curves to the object you photographed it could help so much. I think the technology is there, and I think the interface is good. It's really just a matter of a software developer finding a way to merge the two with the ideal learning curve and ease of use. This software looks nice, and it's a step in the right direction. But it's also "close, but no cigar."

..I still use Luminar2 as my edit software - LumR3 was unstable on my system (iOS10.13) & I've kept away from LumR4 because of AI&Sky options & inability to handle star trails.Adding a Sky that wasn't there , just, doesn't seem right for me..

I think I can use it for lunar photos.

Wow this might end the hard work I’d have to do in the future!✨🌌

Ask Skylum for a licence for the Early Access Version of Luminar Neo. In there you can use any tool multiple times. So you can stretch the data in a way similar to PS.

About the only thing I use Luminar AI for my astrophotography is the Denoise and maybe Structure. Affinity Photo v1.9.1 is much better for start to finish astrophotography (from stacking to final edits), but I suspect that PixInsight would be better for post processing (if I ever learn how). I'm noticing that some people using PixInsight are still putting finishing touches with other photo editors.

This software was pretty underwhelming. I'm happy for your sponsorship but this is not the way you go.

@geonerd

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder how much 'sponsorship' they contributed? This video is more of a gushing add than an actual review.

@syncros4142

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with having fun with new software!

Nice! :)

What about Affinity Photo 1.9 it has Astrophography Stack and now it's design for Astrophotographer too.. can U try it Trevor?

@jcinaz

3 жыл бұрын

James Ritson, product expert on Affinity Photo, is your best source of info and tutorials on Affinity Photo.

deffinitelly great software for the times when you want to produce something more artistic or something to show relatives who arent amateuer astronomers

Great Programm!

i miss a shitton of denoising options, i definitely stick with darktable for astro edits, but Luminar is nice just for those little snapshots over the day.

Why do you edit/post-process your images after the basic image reduction? Why don't you leave the image as it is, as you took it? Why do you have the need to add or change something on the photo that doesn't reflect reality? I am doing astrophotography with my 10" Newtonian at F/4.6 but my photos have never seen anything other than DARK/BIAS/FLAT and color balance in MaximDL.

The robots are taking over! First it was stellena and now this?!

I will say, your page seems to be more mid to expert level. But this review has me, as an absolute beginner (I just bought my camera and have yet to take a photo), very interested in this.

man i dont want AI to do my editing workflow I love editing them myself and learning by trial and errors

I like it but I feel the 'structure' slider is going a bit too far into the world of overprocessing for me.

100 talks of 1 talks, we love your content most, we want to see your setup tour and what should an astrophotographer do except astroimaging, as you do...

I cannot wait to buy a car and have my own astrophotography adventures!

@Statikk

2 жыл бұрын

Ha good one. You say that like you’ll be able to afford a car after your astrophotography investment

@richardrjacob9749

2 жыл бұрын

@@Statikk lol I'll probably end up living in the middle of nowhere, caveman style

@Statikk

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardrjacob9749 ay make sure you pick a spot with no light pollution! Haha

@richardrjacob9749

2 жыл бұрын

@@Statikk hmmm, an underground cave in the Sahara sounds good eh

cool beans dude

So it's like Lightroom but for astrophotography

Not for nothing if you are posting from your phone because that's what you do with IG, us an app called polish. It has AI structure adjustments ect... For free.

Software may not be prime time yet, the fact you had bars instead of user input fields already illustrates the limitation. AI is about learning, hopefully they aren't using it as a marketing gimmick. How can it learn if you are scrolling with a bar to make adjustments. It would need to see a large data set of users each "scrolling" on a certain template in order to try and figure out what might be best. However if that day set is from a bunch of beginner noobs (i.e. ME) that what the AI learns serves no value to actual professionals like Trevor. I would be impressed if Luminary took my old 35 mm photos and converted them into 20 mega pixel images. Anyways thanks for taking the time in sharing this video and showing us a little bit of Luminar my friend.

7:50 you added fog to your image right after saying it's not your taste to add something that wasn't there.

i think it's a very cool piece of software with regards to general photography with some very interesting AI capabilities that could have a huge impact on the photo processing game. but idk if it's what i would want to edit astro photos with.

This helped me eliminate Luminar AI . I’m terrible with Photoshop but I’ll keep plugging away at it.

No premiere D:

What’s up, I love space!

@skydreamer5956

3 жыл бұрын

DO UOU HAVE TELESCOPE

@paleostories_7839

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, TWO in fact

When I think of AI for astrophotography, I think of just having a Nuke Button. I love gather the data but I’m absolutely rubbish at post processing.

Just use Luminar sky replacement tool. Voila! You don't even need a telescope.

Hi Trevor!!!!

You really should go 4k since you focus alot on images with this channel.

Of course it's one of the best astro and deep space editor... You know why!! Because you replace your daytime photo with a replaced sky what they provide :D ..... LoL..

Luminar4 gave you more control than Luminar AI. L4 had layers. In some ways they dummy downed the software which is disappointing. I tried AI and decided on a refund. I was a loyal Luminar fan until the release of AI.

Not really convinced. Seems like a lot of this can be done simply by using selective curves stretches in PS. For me this takes away a lot of the creative freedom of editing.

Hello!

Can you do a video on phone Astro photography and the best images you can get using a phone?🙂

@beyonderbill3409

3 жыл бұрын

I second this! I don't do it myself as I use my DSLR at the moment, but I have friends that want to dabble into this a little bit to see if the hobby is right for them. They try to use their phone and end up getting discouraged. I'd love to have a You Tube video from someone good at this to show them how to improve things.

Hi bro

Meh! Fluff. People who love Instagram filters will love this.

HOW MANY TYPES OF TELESCOPE .ARE THERE.... 1.REFACTOR 2.REFLECTOR 3.CATADIOPTRIC 4.NEWTONIAN. 5. 6. 7 I ONLY KNOW SOME OF THE .

@fsefso7587

3 жыл бұрын

1st of all, what is refactor?, 2nd newtonian is reflector, so what's the deal, 1-3 are correct but if you want to include telescope designs you probably wan't to read some atm forums...

@LShaver947

3 жыл бұрын

There is only 2 types, refractor and reflector. Everything else is just sub categories

@fsefso7587

3 жыл бұрын

@@LShaver947 Catadioptric are using refractive and reflective elements, so it is also category.

You missed the whole point of how the curve slider works - the slider at the bottom provides adjustment of any point on the curve - you never picked a point on any curve, so you got a gross adjustment of thel whole curve. IF you had selected a point or multiple points on a curve, you can adjust them directly on the graph OR use the slider. You don't have to use the overall slider. So your comment about how elementary the curve adjustments appear was based on your lack of familiarity with the product and didn't do justice to the power of the tool being able to make any shape on any color curve. I love your work and recommend your site all the time, but you missed it big time with Luminar AI. BTW, most pros go straight to the edit functions and skip template selection if they're used to using photoshop, lightroom, etc. - especially on something like astrophotography.

Эх я буквально ничего не понимаю. Как же грустно.

From this video u anderstand that almost every photo is not original

Not a fan of this. Too much playing around with the real image for my liking.

First

just show the tools, talking way too much and not showing what the software actually capable of

This is the exact opposite of creative.

Yuck