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@technofeeliak

Ай бұрын

I see you spend a lot of time on the lighting of your characters. I recommend using Blender 3D software to figure that out. If you want to go that way, you just make or use someone else's human female model, pose it, and put your lighting everywhere. It's possible to use Blender's grease pencil if you would like to draw over the model too. That would be drawing in 3D space.

@eddiexx

Ай бұрын

i think the problem is on a systemic level where its reaching a complete antihuman place, an economic model that is not interested in people and its expressions other than as a product. sure it has always had that vision but we are reaching a point where it wants to eradicate us, it sees no value in human activity. its not a problem of technology, its a market economy development problem and "we" are complicit in this process, when people started thinking it was a good idea using the language of market for art andfor ourselves. we are at the crossroad and a sort of ultimate conflict is in the horizon, simply burring the head in the sand and playing along being a "good boy" will not work anymore..

@jaymurray6051

26 күн бұрын

How do you keep the color palette on the desktop ?

@FrankHarwald

12 сағат бұрын

"AI images" don't lack diversity or variety - au contraire!, it has these in abundance - what it lacks is coherence & structure (which is why it fundamentally unable to draw or recognize hands & feet correctly & does weird overlaps/blends between adjacent image parts).

I always felt that the REAL beauty of Art & Creativity is in the PROCESS not the result. Ever since I was young I was always FASCINATED with musicians being able to PLAY music on the spot for fun, artists drawing live DEMOS, writers spontaneously coming up with STORIES, florists making beautiful BOUQUETS, and more! The finished piece is only part of that WHOLE journey, sometimes even when I can’t stay long to see the result, it didn’t change HOW AMAZED I am by the experience 😌❤️

@thruston

Ай бұрын

Music is a good example of this. You can listen to virtually any piece of music on Spotify extremely easily but people still go to concerts. Entire arenas are being sold out by certain artists. And a majority of my appreciation towards art comes from wanting to understand how the artist did it. I find it kind of concerning how many people are simply not even curious about the things they pretend to like or care about. I guess a lot of people see learning new things as a something that they should avoid at all cost. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but personally I'd much rather learn about everything myself than let the AI do it. If I really like something, I want to learn as much about it as possible.

@ergojosh

Ай бұрын

Im trying to find a way to make art a similar experiential value to music and dance for these same reasons.

@JoeNevada1

Ай бұрын

@@ergojosh I like that, what have you found so far? Maybe stuff like graffiti or what Kim Jung Gi did? A while ago I did a snow sculpture for fun. A lot of people stopped and watched and wanted to talk about it. I have always felt like art was most alive while it was being made, it changes and moves kinda like a living thing and that's really entertaining to people.

@mehface

Ай бұрын

art noun The conscious use of the imagination in the production of objects intended to be contemplated or appreciated as beautiful. Ai is incapable of making art.

@MrsLillayFran

Ай бұрын

@arr4anj @thruston This rhis this a billion of times!!!

Best thing to start doing is stop calling it Ai Art. it's liek a constant stab to yourself that you are inflicting. Ai generated image arent art, they are generated image. I also just dont go on social medias much and dont check ai stuff too much because that's not healthy imo

@GBomb9704

Ай бұрын

Instead we should call it by its real name: Plagiarism. Edit: ya know what I’m gonna go even further and call it Cultural Genocide.

@user-vm6cx3wr9e

Ай бұрын

Arrasou!

@ergojosh

Ай бұрын

Honestly you're absolutely right but absolutely none of the people who need to hear this would know what I was talking about if I referred to it as that :( Scrolling artstation too much in the beginning will destroy your ego way faster than scrolling AI art imo.

@bibule

Ай бұрын

If manufactured objects in galleries and poop sold in cans is considered art, so is ai.

@KwehShiro

Ай бұрын

@@ergojosh true true! I get it ^^ . and yeah , checking art is so demotivating XD i have a build up ref folder with stuff separated so i usually go there first before venturing online to minimise the damages on my mental health. passively build it up when i find something interesting too !

I don't feel inadequate because of AI image generation, I feel inadequate when I realize I don't know how to market what I'm doing correctly and I get a perception that people no longer give a f**k lol

@seanfaherty

Ай бұрын

I feel inadequate when I go to galleries and see them selling for thousands and I can’t get people to take a watercolour I left in a hotel elevator. To be fair it went missing a couple times but then it keeps getting put back. Hilarious and humbling all at the same time.

@gargoyled_drake

Ай бұрын

That in it self makes you an artist my friend. There are plenty of people out there learning all the mathematics behind art who just like A.I. can create anything. But they don't feel anything. They are calculating every aspect of what they are doing. That's not art, that's just craftsmanship. Which is something everyone can do, given the right tools. True artist rarely know how to reach their customers them selves. So true art gets lost in basements and attics. Few survive. But those that do, when they get found. Their value is priceless. That's how you become a famous artist. If you are lucky. You'll still be alive when it happens. If you are even more lucky. Your family is alive to recieve the gift from you. Keep painting/drawing/sculpting true art. Don't do the harddrive art. As it won't be the same feeling to find it.

@takemetoyonk

Ай бұрын

@@gargoyled_drake I can get behind that. It would just be better if others lived consumed less by the internet. The audience is the problem not the artists like us

@andreakhaid

Ай бұрын

@@gargoyled_drake Thank you for adding this comment. I have been making art for many years and I think that your comment has actually given me a lightbulb moment to better understand what art actually is. It's not so much about the craft as you say, but it's about what the artist was going through or expressing when they made their art. There are many famous artists that I have struggled to understand why they are so popular. But the reason they resonate with people or critics is because of their MESSAGE and what they were going through while making their art. Sure, I think we all enjoy looking at gorgeous and impeccably crafted art, and many of us like to strive for that. But if there is a reason for it's creation that is extremely powerful.

@jesustyronechrist2330

26 күн бұрын

I think this is A GREAT thing to notice! Because the main issue I had with art (as an artist and a consumer) was that everyone was just doing "pretty pictures". Everyone has been so focused on trying to have the most "profitable" art style, that allows them to sell their fanart illustrations of pretty anime women... No, what AI is forcing people to do is Projects. Projects are what actually sell. A comic/manga sells because it's a project, not a singular illustration that has to carry itself. But it also forces people to deepen their subject matter. It forces them to incorporate storytelling, that they can't just draw characters posing anymore. Which I really like. Art has felt like a consumer product in the recent years, where everything I see is just a... Pose.

I hope people will start understanding that there is no such thing as AI "art". There are only AI "images". Only living, breathing humans can create true art.

@deinodinosuchus

Ай бұрын

thank you

@Pikastation28

Ай бұрын

Facts

@Nos7algiK

Ай бұрын

The AI is not sentient, it can not produce an image without it's prompts. Those prompts can only be activated by humans. So humans are creating the art, AI art is art and it's a fact of life many will have to adjust to quickly within the next few years.

@qirmi2030

Ай бұрын

true. art is meaningful when a human makes it. however capitalism sadly doesn't give a shit.

@tech_aro

Ай бұрын

@@Nos7algiKif your typing in a prompt to bot you aren’t making art dawg 😭😭😭😭literally anyone can do that and it still won’t give you exactly what you want because it is creating it not you, the fact that all the art it used to create the images there isn’t payment to the original artists 😭(thank goodness ai art can’t be copyrighted too), ai art is bullsh*t that’s a quick cash grab by companies and won’t even be cared about in years time

A) this painting is stunning! B) every word you shared is golden. Your perspective is refreshing and empowering, I can’t thank you enough

@ergojosh

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much Adam😀

To go back to a loving art teacher's quote : " The harderst part of becoming an artist, isn't to learn to paint.... but to learn to think before you paint " . I carry that inside me for the past 25 years and it has yet to fail me :) Awesome content. Keep up the hard work Josh!

@ergojosh

Ай бұрын

Grateful for that art teacher and you for sharing this tip!

@gargoyled_drake

Ай бұрын

makes no sense at all. I'm sorry. But your teacher sounds like they are full of it. There are many things that you can do when making art. But thinking is the last thing you want to do, that'll make you go insane. I think/feel [what word fits best into this sentence?] if you were to maybe rephrase your teacher it would be more fitting. *"But to learn to FEEL before and while you paint"

@anapple6912

Ай бұрын

huh whats that mean? think before you draw?

@wisgarus

Ай бұрын

The thing about that advice is that, like pretty much any advice, depending on the person it may not ring true because of their own struggles. For me, I used to (and still do. Working on it) overthink my art. Because I lacked the necessary workflow or any kind of base or foundation to work off of, and as a result a lot of was guesswork and trial and error to find my way, which resulted in me taking extremely long amounts of time for even the simples of pieces. What I learned recently, is that there has to be a balance. If you want to both understand what you're doing, be confident and decisive, and finally, do it efficiently and quickly, it's important to both take a moment to analyze and think, when it's appropriate, and find ways to make other parts of the process as mindless as possible through development of consistent "recipes" for drawing various things that you can follow without straining your brain.

@brodriguez11000

25 күн бұрын

Art books point out it's the ability to see the world. The parts our day to day brain glosses over. The details it saves us from.

first thing i was taught in art school was to build a visual library; anything cool or interesting from textures to characters or even lighting in some image. take photos of neat buildings or colorful sunsets etc- save it to a folder or something to use as references, and when you need them you have a whole library of stuff to use and combine. its helped me a TON over the years

Nice painting + inspiring message. When Jackie Chan was asked how he competed with Bruce Lee... he said "I kicked when Lee punched". While Lee was making "Enter the Dragon" and other "serious" kung fu, Chan was making "Half Loaf of Kung Fu" and other "comedy" kung fu. The key to success is (and will always be) to stand apart from the competition and find the strength in your own "voice".

@ClaimClam

25 күн бұрын

terrible message, now with ai it is easier for ai artists to find gaps in the market and mix and match new concepts. also cellphones you can carry in your pocket are more powerfull that computers that took up whole rooms in the 80s

@heyna1185

10 күн бұрын

@@ClaimClam did you listen at all? Yeah AI can mash two concepts together but if AI doesn't have a lot of images of black skin to train on, your AI generated black characters aren't gonna look right. Also the super computers ergojosh talked about are CURRENT supercomputers that are inconceivably more powerful than phones. I can tell you just skipped through the video and ran to the comments smh.

I REALLY feel the tropes thing, like drawing black people with dreads, but the dreads are snakes, or like brightly coloured, or magical. Drawing afros but they're like...stand in for planets or something. Having the black character only ever wearing yellow or orange. It's exhausting as tropes.

@ergojosh

Ай бұрын

Throw in all the African King/Queen Ai art that covers sites like redbubble and etsy lol. It actually gets easy to be different.

@scarletsletter4466

Ай бұрын

😂 why are these so accurate? I never thought about it by its so true. When I paint black characters they’re just doing the same things in the same settings as my other characters

@ClaimClam

25 күн бұрын

now we have ai we can easly generate a flood of non trope art

I picked a mantra early on, roughly to the tune of: AI image generators don't know what anything "is" so much as what it "looks like". Having thrown quite a few prompts into a few generators myself, all I can say is that this sentiment proved itself even more true over time.

@Nexalian_Gamer

18 күн бұрын

So if you posted a picture of a car and labelled it "toaster" then you could screw with the AI's training? What if a bunch of people started purposefully posting thousands of images on various sites and then purposefully mislabeling them. I mean like 20 posts everyday so that any AI that scrapes those images gets screwed up.

@Stratelier

17 күн бұрын

@@Nexalian_Gamer Theoretically, yes that is possible, but I'd suspect it's unlikely that any large amount of obvious mis-tagging would be allowed into the AI's training algorithm to begin with. A crucial part of these training processes is (obviously enough) deciding what actually constitutes good training data.

@Saga_Anserum

7 күн бұрын

​@@Stratelier people are trying to ``poison`` AI image generators and it might be working

@Stratelier

7 күн бұрын

@@Saga_Anserum Yes, I've heard about Nightshade and Glaze by now. Their key advantage is that they apply patterns that ONLY the AI's training algorithm should detect.

Good advice and this might be a hyper specific comment, but I've always loved the way you color water or moisture on skin. It's so detailed and really brings your art into that 4D space. It also just makes me feel hydrated for some reason.

@ergojosh

Ай бұрын

I love hyper specific comments! And thank you! Its something I realized I have a knack for and really enjoyed.

@brodriguez11000

25 күн бұрын

Good understanding of color and light.

Remember biggest AI weakness is drawing hands, we should all switch from portrait drawing to a Hand Artists!

@user-ooop

Ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure that would be worse. Cause then the ai would just take those to train on.

@xofox_studio

Ай бұрын

not for long

@migueld8970

Ай бұрын

Ive seen plenty of artists of fivver that have gigs for fixing AI hands.

@FemboyKaiSaku

Ай бұрын

ai can do hands now as depressed as it makes me, its a fact ai is getting way better

@shiftingshadows13

29 күн бұрын

You’ve got to remember that the art generated by ai is trained from real artists, so that would only add more content for them to take from. The reason ai is bad at hands is because it’s also a common human artist struggle.

A message for all artists of all types: Don't give in to all the fearmongering out there. No one can replace you. Your talents and hard work come together to provide society with one of its greatest boons.

@Zeoytaccount

3 күн бұрын

Totally agree with this. The only thing I’d add is that if you depend on art as a job, the unfortunate fact is that replacement is always a possibility. I personally would encourage fellow professionals to do whatever they need to protect themselves.

Generated imagines are not subject to US copyright law. If you were to--say--download one of these images with the intention to sell it at rock-bottom prices that only keeps whatever online store you may or may not have opened available, the person trying to "win" off the AI image couldn't do anything about it. Even better, if you say something like "This needs to be on a tee shirt!" as a comment about the piece, this may or may not pit the AI "artist" against the AI "seller" for a good laugh. All this is theoretical. I am not suggesting you do anything to harass anyone.

@ergojosh

Ай бұрын

for the record I too, do not condone harrassment whatsoever.

@YourWaywardDestiny

Ай бұрын

@@ergojosh Of course. No matter how _absolutely and utterly hilarious_ it would be to watch the break-down, it's never good to harass anyone. 😌

TLDR: Human creativity and ingenuity is a byproduct of being a conscious living being who can interpret the world, while AI "ingenuity" is just trying to mimic the **result** of human creativity and ingenuity but without actually understanding or interpreting information I've been saying this since the start of the whole AI fad, AI isn't really optimal for the things we want it to be. For context, I'm a programmer, so I'm viewing it from a different perspective than most artists. At least to my understanding, which I'll readily admit is not that of an AI specialist, AI is created through essentially repetition, you define a goal and "train" an AI by repeatedly simulating how they interact with a dataset, choosing the best one from each simulation and starting the next simulation off with that AI, and a bunch of random tweaks to it. Over time this process refines the AI and makes it more and more complicated, but the problem is, it is **highly** sensitive to the input parameters. AIs don't think like humans, which is a hard thing for us to imagine, but when they interpret an image they have no subconscious mind pointing out the little details and understanding it. We can only train AI not to actually understand and internalize concepts and ideas, but rather to create a somewhat predictable or expected response to datasets, but with no actual interpretation or understanding. This makes it highly sensitive to input parameters because it doesn't have a subconscious to guide it in the correct direction like humans do, it just chooses whichever AI scores highest on the arbitrary test created by the designer, which makes it really difficult to predict because sometimes the most efficient solution to problems are not at all what we'd envision. This can lead to a lot of edge cases that can seriously cause problems if they aren't double checked and eliminated by someone before they're used. Another example is hallucination, like in ChatGPT, where the AI model is trained to associate "tokens" to other tokens, which allows it to tokenize input text and predict words that it algorithmically thinks matches the tokens already present. This allows it to somewhat simulate human speech, but when a concept that is underrepresented in it's dataset comes up, it just hallucinates answers because it doesn't have 100 different instances of that exact question being answered in it's dataset, so it doesn't make the link that this specific question (token set) requires the answer to be this other specific token set. Instead, it treats it as regular human speech with no nuance or understanding of the question, and so just creates an answer that *sounds* right given the wording of the question (which is highly unreliable). AI is far more useful as an assistant, in my opinion. A tool that, due to it's nature, is very proficient in creating generic baselines or accomplishing menial repetitive tasks for it's user who can then start where it left off and refine it to actually make sense. This is the reason why these AIs have to have such massive datasets, and why so many people are arguing that it's already plateaued. It's seeming "Intelligence" isn't the byproduct of a conscious mind that can interpret the world, it's essentially just mimicry. Don't get me wrong though, this mimicry can be a good thing, and can certainly fool many people for a time being, but it's just inherently flawed and unpredictable because of how it works. In my opinion, AI can be a massive tool to propel humanity forward if we stop hyping it up and deploy it in ways that are actually useful and not just party tricks like generating paragraphs. There's an AI assistant programmer called Github Copilot that generates code snippets for you based on, and to be quite honest, it's great for menial and repetitive tasks like multiplying out a matrix or something else that is definitely represented enough in it's dataset for it to get right (although you still 150% have to check it because it is super unreliable sometimes), but I had to create a keybind to disable Copilot in my code editor because it just kept suggesting ridiculous things, and I intuitively glanced at them and thought " okay this isn't nonsense, it'll probably work, it can't be too bad " and accept it's solution, just to find out 5 hours later that it had a flawed edge case that completely wasted my day as I scoured my code base to figure out where I went wrong when it was really just the AI suggestion that hallucinated an answer because it had no understanding of the concepts. I now only really use copilot for repetitive things that can very easily be checked by a human, everything else I do manually because it's just not worth the risk, especially since AI has no understanding of these concepts, making it very susceptible to security vulnerabilities and edge-cases. Overall, all this AI trend is really disheartening, not because it's going to be 'stealing' our jobs, but because it shows how blindsided we can be over novelties like talking to a computer when the technology itself can be used for much more advanced purposes if employed correctly. Again, I'm not an AI specialist so who knows, maybe I'm wrong and stupid and this will be brought up in my court case in 50 years where my AI lawyer will defend me to the AI judge in the AI courts, but from what I can tell so far, we're really missing out on a lot of the great parts of AI because we want the novelty of saying "look, I can talk to my computer and have it generate images for me" (not to mention the ethical concerns of all of it). Also I'm aware I didn't mention the ethical part of using other peoples work to train AIs, since that's more subjective and up for debate and I just wanted to shed light on my understanding of the technical inner workings of AI. Because these companies are using AI for novelty tasks like talking or image generation as opposed to actual datasets of information, it requires a massive amount of examples for it to understand, which for something as complicated and nuanced as art and human speech, is very very difficult to obtain (which is why there's really only a handful of decent AI chatbots, all of which use scraped data off the internet to try and supplement the ridiculously large data set it needs to mimic humans in a believable way). This dataset approach is limited though, and because datasets are inherently limited and the AIs have no actual understanding of the concepts, it will eventually plateau unless there's a larger dataset (which I'd expect to get harder and harder as the dataset increases in size). Again, I'm not an AI specialist or expert, and if you are, feel free to explain why I'm wrong, but generally this is my understanding of it. Hope this is informative or helpful. :)

Finally an artist who just look the facts. IA has a totally different working process than human brain. I'm not an artist, but I've use daily IA image generation, hoping I can create my own style and bet good artist (foolish me) And you now what ? Since couple of month I start learning how to draw. For exactly the reasons you describe in your video. IA is not creative, data-quality dependent (you don't have the control of that over the IA model). Also, I realized when drawing about the process of drawing, taking inspiration mix with personal memories and/or random things who came out of your mind not necessary related to your work. And this process is almost equally important than the final result of your work. IA can't do that, at least until the next decade as you said. Keep up your quality content Josh !

so beautiful... but you forget a thing .. human greed. AI art, if we dont get the legal rights to keep it away from our jobs IT WILL and already is taking our jobs, NOT because is it is smart but only due human greed. Big corporations want to save any penny and that is it :) I saw way too many artists openly saying they lost their job cuz AI exist

@sunla

Ай бұрын

Exactly this. I lost my business clients to AI. Not because AI is better, it's because then they don't have to pay a human.

@Maikeru_

Ай бұрын

Agreed, and not only corporations, I've seen artists using AI (and they know how to draw very well). For example, I have a friend that wants to open an art school, but for teaching AI... it pisses me off

@sunla

Ай бұрын

@@Maikeru_ that is so gross. It's actually really sad the level of betrayal we've faced on such a large scale. AI is good for deception and scams.

@kenzanhoshizaki7938

Ай бұрын

Yes. It's not a technical problem. It's always a social & political problem.

@floreroafloreril1458

27 күн бұрын

​@@kenzanhoshizaki7938AI could've been a great tool if profit motives weren't involved. We're stuck on the shitty timeline. Lmao

putting on music is such an underrated tip i feel like some people might just throw on music to avoid feeling bored during their project.. but when i really need inspiration i'm hunting down my OC's theme song, finding her attitude and aura. my favorite kind of art are those pieces you see that make you feel so small and powerless, a colossal creature that would probably make you pass out if you ever saw it irl or anything in the dark souls realm of vibe. attack on titan songs fit those perfectly!

Thank you so much for this video :) I've been feeling really anxious about ai and my art and this is the first video on the topic that has actually soothed that anxiety

This was one of the most inspiring videos I've found for years and I must say that your voice sounds amazing. Not only have you convinced me quite a lot to get over the fear of AI taking over art/music but also your search experiment and your further explaining on how AI and its limitations work kind of showed me that I didn't see the forest for trees on my search for my musical identity, because my thoughts were all over the place so I forgot to see what's really the key to being unique. If all of your videos are going to be so deep and inspiring, you definitely got a new longtime vieweŕ here. :D Have a great day!

@ergojosh

28 күн бұрын

Thank you! I'm happy to hear this.

I love the lines defining the anatomy in your sketches. They looks so flowy and pretty

Totally random and unknown artist here, I just wanted share that I was really devastated with the improvements with genAI the past 2 years or so (be it Stable Diffusion reliant "programs/software popping up here and there, Dall E , MidJourney ref or some other LoRA BS crawling out of the woodwork) in combination with "other methods" to make the image "legit" over the analog approach, be it digital or traditional ( meaning drawing or painting without the assistance of these genAI image generators ) that...and some of the artists I look up to (when I was younger) who are also shortsighted and embracing the genAI hype without much consideration or thought as to why there is so much discourse...drove me to the point of understanding the word "Memento Mori" and really sinking/doubling down on the art fundamentals even more than ever. I finally understood why the true process of art creation is really valuable The pieces I have created most probably will be buried (or yet, something even worse) but I've relinquished the thought of things outside of my control and just focus on things I do have control over. I probably would not survive the year or so but nevertheless, I will struggle to the end as an act of rebellion to this "hyper consumerism" going around in our current society. For more information about the genAI topics, I highly recommend checking out Karla Ortiz (kortizart on twitter) Jon Lam (artist) , Steven Zapata (has a youtube channel and had a recent TED talk which provokes a lot of impressive questions to our society with big tech pushing AI on us ) Gary Marcus, Emily Bender,Timnit Gebru and of course, Ben Zhao ( machine learning specialists who are aware of the dangers of genAI models in its current state) The Daily show with John Stewart (AI false promises) and his interview with the FTC Linda Khan ( apologies if I got the some of the names incorrect, just check their channel on YT) provides additional context on the matter as well.

I'm brand new to your channel and before even getting into it, I've subscribed, I can tell that you bring a lot of value to the table and look forward to your more of your videos. Amazing art style, I have been struggling with the same issues and you are inspiring me to take another stab at it! TY.

Great overview for the Milanote app, this is just what I need to help reign in some character developments. I definitely enjoy processing/sampling my original sketches through AI driven apps to create custom styles that help with maintaining consistency.

You inspired me that much that I had to stop the video and put myself to work on my art… thanks for that. You have a new sub… I’m gonna watch it in full and other videos you have later today 😊

oh your art style is absolutely beautiful! i'm so glad your channel got recommended to me, immediately subscribed. can't wait to see more from you!

I recently came across such a moment that I cornyly helped one person with a drawing. And now my server has been forcing me to draw again all week. At the same time, I have not painted anything for more than 3 years, I have not practiced, and my syndrome turns off my hand due to a neurological disorder. Of course, I have no motivation, at the moment I have a banal basic basics.

@Lycaon1765

Ай бұрын

Nice icon by the way

your words were genuinely so comforting ❤ thank you for making this video + gorgeous art! ^^

The way you shade skin is gorgeous my guy I’m still learning on shading variety of skin tones but I feel like I can learn from you

thanks for this video, I needed to hear that after too many years of my art being unpopular on social media bc my style and characters don't fit the common trends and whatnot. maybe it'll work out eventually after all. also, excellent arworkt as usual, I learned a few painting tricks there while watching!

"All you need to do to stand out is to look within" 😭 you're killing me rn

@meagancrowley5197

25 күн бұрын

This is why making art for the audience is such a garbage idea. It's easy to expect what the audience wants, no one expects me to just straight up follow my dreams 😂 take that AI! You have no dreams!

Thank you Josh, I really needed this video in these current times. Keep producing content please,

Cool video Boss. Very useful. Love how you showed a little of how to use references

Just discovered your channel. Awesome and inspiring work, sticking around for your smooth, deep voice... sheesh.

Midway though working a piece I often see a visual connection that I had not considered. It is a Eureka moment; taking the time to find references for this new element before enhancing that detail on your piece, something which takes it to the next level. Sometimes it takes you in a whole new direction, and sometimes it could be a subtle hue shift, but it is totally worth it. Anyways, my advice, don't be afraid to look up references midway through the creative process.

This is the first time I've seen one of your videos. The painting was absolutley beautiful, would have loved a still of the finished piece at the end ❤

To be honest... That's gotta be the best video that I've watched from you and about IA. I remember 2 years ago that one of your videos had me all demotivated to continue doing art in a time that I wanted to make a living out of it and I pretty much gave up of art, only sketching from time to time. This year I came back with art and it's been amazing, because I don't care about money or likes, I just want to do the weird stuff that I like. This video is actually good because you bring so many arguments of how humans STILL are the best creators out there (not entering the religious aspect of things, just maintaining in the mortal world here), without being disrespectful and how we can still produce so many beautiful, impactful, soul-touching things despite the existence of IA. That was a nice video. Was kinda worried about the title but it surprised me! Oh, and don't get me wrong, I like your work, like your art, but just don't feel very aligned with your overall content (probably because of the past and the give up art stuff), but I still keep hanging around because of times like this, where you post something that actually makes sense to me and motivates me. Guess that's something that IA cannot do as well... So keep it up with the good work!

@anordinaryfellow2832

Ай бұрын

It's sooo heartwarming to know that you got back to art! Its a clear sign that you still are passionate about it, it's honestly great! Honestly seeing the community of potential future artist giving up saddens me to the highest degree, but this is wholesome! May you fully enjoy the journey of the artist, think it's worth it.

@ClaimClam

25 күн бұрын

terrible video about, now with ai it is easier for ai artists to find gaps in the market and mix and match new concepts. also cellphones you can carry in your pocket are more powerfull that computers that took up whole rooms in the 80s. you also cant compare calulations per second with computers and human brains. even older chips are much faster at doing mathimatical calculations etc than humans

Josh! When I saw the hand you were drawing, I immediately thought of JAW Cooper :) I love her work so much! I have several pins from her ❤

@ergojosh

Ай бұрын

That is awesome! Yeah I love her work so much.

I appreciate this Ergo Josh! Thank you!❤

Love your work man!!!

I have been using a Milanote board for every picture I do. The app is a massive deal for workflow. The realization I can split view it is hilariously nice.

That is an amazing and beautiful dark fae you’ve created❣️ Also, nice job on the advice and supportive way you navigated the AI art topic. I had nearly everything I had created scraped from the 4 gallery sites that fed the AI art engines. After Meta changed their ToS this past February I was forced to pull my work off of just about every social site to protect my rights with those pieces. All of this isn’t a problem for most people just learning to create or are not trying to make a living from their art. I’ve had some strong differences of opinions from yours in the past. This is one that I’m happy to be in agreement with you on! No set back is ever worth stopping to be creative. The rhetoric of the day should only make us want to create more. I love what you did with the piece and the topic!

you have a beautiful set up and style keep at it !

Great advice and a hopeful message. Thanks josh

Love bro! Thanx for the videos! the art was amazing

Listening to this reminded me of something. I went to pintrest and the "art" is great I felt that it is better then me but then I was like "f*ck it" I'll use it for a pose ref cuz its nice. That was until I saw the errors the highlights, the hair, the eyes something is off about ai generation and because of it being everywhere I knew it was ai in seconds and even non artist are learning it too. Ai gen images are like having a cheap fast food burger, it looks and taste ok enough but that nice chef cooked one will ALWAYS be better. I finished the piece and while yes I used ai for the pose because of my actual skill in digital art the colors are more fun in my piece in my opinion. I for once was proud because I think we truly will be ok in the long run hell the big boy companies are at more risk then us because why would I get a job at some big art stealer when I can work with machines to do my own thing? I'll feel doom and gloom every once in a while but gosh i will never regret choosing to be an artist.

@ShinzouKatsune

28 күн бұрын

Yup, never include it in your workflow if you want authenticity or quality. It's cheap and pretty and empty.

There are always people like me for example who appreciate the craft and see a clear difference in what is presented. AI generated images looks always the same, it is an impressive peace of technology but that's about it. It's like a interesting feature that some apps have or even smth to produce advertisments cheaper. However there is Art which takes my breath away, that makes me think or feel at home, creating a new point of view or showing something that is familiar to the human nature. These are never AI generated images. They can trick you, they might steal your job but they cannot replace art - the moment art dies, humanity dies

Love the art work! Also… first time actually clicking on a sponsored link because the software looks amazing and I’m kind of excited to try it out 😬

Great insights, Josh. AI AutoGen art will find its place. And that place is commerce. Its biggest attraction to commerce is also its biggest flaw; high yield. Great for a sector that only needs Art. A lot of Art. And quick. And at a low cost. ^ And, in a global free market, you're now in a race to the bottom. (And that's not even addressing the legal shackles commerce faces when using current AutoGen tools under current licensing laws). Your advice to lean into the personal is spot on. This is where uniqueness happens. This is where reputation lives. And where human-to-human connection resides. So, even though we like to think our art speaks for us it's simply not enough anymore; people crave connection - so you need to be present in the work in some shape or form: make Human Intelligence (Not-So-Auto-Gen)Art. Seek out a community of your own; Kevin Kelly's 1,000 true fans. Or find those brand-aware companies that comprehend the value a human (artist) brings to what they make; these are the spaces where an art career can be found.

@thememeilator2633

29 күн бұрын

You speak very true. It's not the art itself that makes it popular but the connection to you that makes it truly special. Well until we figure out how to copy and transfer souls. And yes that is possible but we are no where near able to do it.

Really needed to hear this! Thanks 😊

@ergojosh

17 күн бұрын

You're so welcome!

Great discussion!!! Very encouraging and informative topic!!!!!

I escape the doom and gloom feeling of my art skill being worthless by making art for different purposes than most people. I don't feel like my art is just another post in a sea of them because I post them in private Discord servers for my friends instead of socal media. And I draw things that Ai doesn't know of. It doesn't know who my friends' DnD characters look like. And last, I enjoy seeing my friends laugh when I draw the goofy hijinks we get into. It makes me happy. Your methods are super super good tho. Ill have to try it.

You OWNED with this one. Congrats. I have been using Figma the way you use milanote but seeing that you can add gifs is blowing my mind.. now i wanna make the switch ^^

@ergojosh

Ай бұрын

ayyye thanks Reka! Yeah the gifs were a nice surprise.

I always loved describing the brain as ‘a nuanced sock of jello with the processing power of a sci-fi computer running on the power of a lightbulb’ 💡 no wonder this is the symbol for an idea. You used the entire lightbulb of power there haha

This video is a gem. Your advice is a gem!

I enjoyed so much you going through the whole process of making this iamge while I was painting, there's so much that we can do and offer as humans and that painting defintely reflects it! Thank you so much for sharing it! I have one question Josh, do you use a lot your ipad to paint? if so. I use my ipad as my main device, the downside is the file management system and i was wondering if you have a particular way of organizing your images and files. Thanks a lot and I want to see more, im very new to your content!

Excellent educational video : D

Thank you for the video! It's real nice to have an artist's perspective, one who also looked into the subject pretty extensively and isn't just here to paint everything in doom and gloom. What worried me the most about the entire AI art thing was corporate greed, and now what may "fix that issue" is corporate greed. Outside of that, great idea with looking into untapped markets when it comes to specific subjects, and I agree with your last points. Doing what you feel like doing, even if it doesn't end up standing out that much, still may create something more unique. And if it doesn't, you had fun making a thing that felt like an expression of you, which is a much better feeling than refreshing the page to see how many likes you got, and beating yourself up because it's not doing numbers.

I remember hearing the president of microsoft say that if you think AI is going to take over, you underestimate human ingenuity.

Your voice is so soothing to listen to that it's hard to actually focus on anything other than the sound of ur voice.

Josh, your art is beautiful! I enjoy watching you create your images, which inspire me to get out the old Wacom and have at it again. Dude, your voice is like Bob Ross, LOL. I hate to admit, after seeing AI create all those amazing images and videos, I look at my Blah images and I decided to shelve the Wacom. Great video Josh!

OMG! "A reason to finish". i really wonderful statement! i have all sorts of art that is stalled or abandoned. i resigned myself to say "At least I had fun being creative." having fun and exploring is very important and therapeutic for me. BUT at some level FINISHING a project is equally fun and and also important for growth... if i want to be honest to with myself, i must admit that never finishing them and saying "I had fun being creative" is more of an excuse to not push myself. Thanks for the wonderful tips!

Man, you really have a great voice. I really like to listen to it. And a great art style too.

My art doesn't matter, hasn't stopped me before, why should it stop me now? xD

@ergojosh

Ай бұрын

This is an enlightened viewpoint right here lol.

I get you Josh, I've had those feelings too, but in fact I'm continuing to create now (partially) to _spite_ generated art and prompters. Your illustrations just keep amazing me. "AI" can be a great tool for consolidating references, or get a launching point but it really needs to be ethically sourced

@Cyromantik

Ай бұрын

Edit: I just tried looking up "dark-skinned water nymph" on Bing. Holy hell the situation is dire. Nothing south of "olive", unless you count purple or green... Not like that can't be beautiful, but it skirts inclusion of other real life skin tones that don't get a lot of play in fantasy fiction universes.

New favorite art channel Thanks man!!! God bless

You raise some very interesting points. Your work is very beautiful. I'm months, maybe years . . . yikes ! . . . away from such as that, skill wise. You have a wonderful sounding voice by the way, dare say you have heard that aplenty. Nice wee side gig maybe doing voice overs, better than any AI robot thing. Your point on getting organised I think is critical, it's not a thing we arty types like to do but it is, unfortunetly, a critical point. Thanks for the info.

Really encouraging, thank you so much. Makes me feel like maybe my art could still matter

Lovely. This was very inspiring for real ❤

absolutely lovely video, mate. quick question: around 7:05 you have a little pop-out picture of your whole Procreate canvas while you’re still able to zoom in and work on details of your painting. how are you creating that pop-out image of your canvas?! that is so cool! also, great work as always 🙌🏼

I think you and everyone else who feels down about AI art is totally valid. I felt the same for awhile when it started blowing up. I have cultivated an acceptance though cause I truly don't think it is going anywhere. AI is part of human evolution unfortunately but that doesn't mean that things have to be as grim as our brains are making things out to be. The rise of AI (I believe) is going to usher in a renaissance of human made art. I think that people that don't care if something is made by people or AI never did care and they will never be our audience. But a large amount of people do care and I think that AI art will strengthen those peoples love for handcrafted pieces with a human touch.

This was inspiring. Thank you for sharing.

Thank you I needed this 😊

I just wanna say you have such a pleasant voice! ♥

i miss seeing your pinterest boards. Your anatomy references and seeing your taste was always interesting to practice from. Thanks for this video

@ergojosh

Ай бұрын

Yeah me too. I have bittersweet feelings about Pinterest, but Ill find another way to share my references publicly! My board in the pinned comments may be start.

i always find it so fascinating and amazing just how different every artists' workflow and experience can be. hearing the vast mount of difference in techniques and brainstorming is always cool. also; to add to the discussion of what makes AI images not as good as or inferior to human art is just that; it wasn't made by a human. there was no thought or intention put into it, it was created by a machine by blending up a bunch of stuff into an *approximation* of an idea, but with none of the intentionality or drive or purpose that a human artist would bring. i don't get excited by AI art, i'm not made interested by AI art, because there's no story behind it. it's all flat and lifeless. you could show me the most beautiful, intricate piece of AI-generated art, and put it next to a simple doodle done by a human, and i'd prefer the human's doodle every single time. amazing and beautiful artwork in the video also!!! the REAL reason that companies are hyping up AI so much is because they *want* to make people worry that they'll be replaced- but they can't actually do it. because, like josh says, they're not really all that "smart".

This piece turned out so beautiful 😍

I said it on Insta and imma say it here: I really REALLY do hope I can produce even a fraction of a masterpiece like this in the future. I will keep at it!! Thank you King!!

Met up with my senior artteacher for the first time in like 2 years, and when she heard I got into artschool she immediately started talking about how I had to learn how to use ai to create art so I could get a headstart in the market :/ if my artschool has mandatory ai courses I might honestly just drop out

Hi fellow artist here! I LOVE YOUR video, I never watched your video until now. I am a techie and also an artist so I had no choice but to be thrown in the ai space AND to not see it as "competition" but a tool to enhance and streamline the creative process. I am very few artist who have totally embraced ai because like you, I noticed that the black representation was lacking! So I found an opportunity and carved a name for myself using art, and ai! You can stand out, outside of the fact that your work is beautiful, I want to stay hopeful that people will eventually value human made art BECAUSE it wasnt generated in seconds! Time, thought, concept, inspiration all the things that make our art what it is will eventually be valued by those that care. My speculation is that in a few months to few years ai art will have it's own niche and sphere and artist who catch on and are aware will find a way to stand out and progress.

Amazing video right here 👍🏼

We have a lifetime of experiences that have shaped and refined our values. AI is an average of a tiny sliver some people have shared on the internet. Knowing the specifics of what really drives you is what makes your art stand out against AI images superficially imitating your style.

love the video and what u spoke abt. ty for putting this into words

Awesome Josh! But who did that piece of art at 13:03 in the middle (the black woman with a sun in the background and an orange in the foreground?) it's excellent.

omg unexpected jaharajade!! I ADORE her cosplays!

your way to keep someones attention span is crazy i have adhd and the way u talk kept me in for the entire video. wise words too

great illustration O:)

Infinite reference glitch

One thing is for sure: even if there's AI for "creating art," I don't think that we humans are about to just *stop* making art. It's a human thing. And the nymph is very pretty! And cool 👍 Thanks for this wonderful video! I shall go make some art too!

My mantra through this has been “keep your friends close but AI closer” lol. Research it, learn it, experiment with it. It’s harder to be scared of something you understand.

Thanks for this video :) Sure feels good to ear a different perspective on AI. Mood swing .. I totally get what you ment by that. First time I saw the speed of AI, I stopped drawing for a while..I just could not believe you could get a drawing that takes hours to make in a few seconds.. with variables.. But then again, it's a passion right? so we come back and try to ignore it. lol love how you simply face it, in a zen video while displaying amazing skills. Also showing us your process. The sad part is that it's gonna be harder to make money from illustration from a commercial stand point.. .. society always want fast and cheap.. It's gonna be all about ideas not so much on executions I guess...Anyway, don't want to write a book in here but sure felt good to watch this! gonna sub! have a great day!

Thanks for the advice, it's like SEO but for artists

Didnt finish watching yet but just wanna leave my thoughts on the whole "AI will make creatives jobless"-thing Ai works off an algorithm which aims for traditionally "beautiful"/aesthetic results The probleme here is not that the golden ratio is suddenly bs or not working anymore, IT IS the problem is that art isn't strictrly about one static concept of "beauty". Often it's not even about visual beauty but about the poetic one. And this is exactly why most people thinking, AI will make artists obsolete don't understand much about the spirit of art. AI is programmed to please the averange person, not to provoke new thoughts or ideas. This is why AI images all look so dead and similar to each other. Last semester I actually prepared a 50minutes presentation about the importance of not going for the mathematically-optimal option (e.g. calculating mathematically "perfect" color palettes is already possible for YEARS, based off color-theory-principles we can optimize a palette to fit the average psycholocal human behavior). Malevich's "Black Square" is one of my favorite examples of imperfection catching human attention. Perfection isn't of any interest for long and that has evolutionary reasons (calculating dangers etc.). Another important part of art is CONSCIOUS decision-making. Like the saying goes: "You can only break the rules if you know them" and breaking rules to create something new and personal is where the personal spirit flows into the artwork most effectively. A more modern example for this would be the illustrations by Jeff Lee Johnson. The whole construction of his illustrations, specifically "blue plate special" utelizes the golden ratio and human behaviorals to lead the eyes in a very distinct way (the longer you look at it the more you will see what I mean)

@tomisastarr4183

18 күн бұрын

Why comment on a video when you haven’t finished watching it?? More and more individuals seem to do that these days…

@L0rar3

17 күн бұрын

@@tomisastarr4183 Bro I'm editing the comment as soon as I finished watching Why so mad -.- Hope you have a nice day and someone/something to cheer you up

great video! Hey Ergo, what's is the name of the app you're using to create the reference board? it reminds me pure ref.

3:51 Really called me out here. I have mostly WIPs that I put on ice for 'the time being' which usually ends up being forever. I cant pinpoint why that is, mostly think I'm lazy (which tbh isnt entirely wrong) but whenever others talk about their struggles and how they solve them I can relate and try to apply some strategies for myself which motivates me at least for a moment to try again. Maybe my trying again should be finishing a piece that I started, even if it means changing it entirely instead of starting anew which makes me end up in the same WIP-cycle I was in before 😅

I appreciate you Josh.

23:44 the numbers part was super fun

That's got to be the best title and thumbnail I've ever come across! I clicked immediately when i saw this

amazing video stunning art relaxing voice great advice