Something my dad told me, If you are promised something, get it in writing.

@cannednolan8194

Ай бұрын

I’ve been hired a one wage and got a lower wage. The person hiring me said oh no it was the amount your receiving that was negotiated. Which it’s was not cause I was already going to be getting less that I wanted but after probation it would be the wage I was looking for to cover my cost of living. I had turn down other jobs because they didn’t want to reach that wage.

@guppygb6078

Күн бұрын

It was in writing... what are you talking about? You think he can just say give me the $20k now instead of when the writing says he'll get it?

@cannednolan8194

Күн бұрын

@@guppygb6078 mine was verbal. I had experience I was there for the interview got hired during the interview. We negotiated I said $15/h. Which I had turned other places down for not being able to pay that. That was my cost of living. He replied $14/h for your six months probation then a $1/h raise after six months. Because of when I started between their pay days. I had to work three weeks before I got my first check. It was $13/h.

They’re probably trying to avoid giving him $20k.

@l.s8904

Жыл бұрын

Yes Great point!

@annstillwell730

Жыл бұрын

Bingo

@mycupoverflows7811

Жыл бұрын

That was my first thought!

@lucasjackson3300

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think that's exactly what's going on.

@cz4761

Жыл бұрын

Yes, they are! They don't won't to give you the 20K.

Companies are not your friends. We are all just numbers and figures to them and not people. Be selfish and don't kill yourself for a company that has no problem getting rid of you.

@stephenshelton4267

Жыл бұрын

Likewise, people should not idolize a company. I see people frequently with product logos tattooed on their bodies!

@Chesu360

Жыл бұрын

That's why they call you a resource. That's why your a commodity has a price you can negotiate. If not then let's all be friends. Not!

@alezandradavila2581

Жыл бұрын

Exactly lol

@tcarp1616

Жыл бұрын

The reason why unions will start to pick up again

@jimroscovius

Жыл бұрын

​@@tcarp1616 Union thugs are thieves and crooks.

My biggest pet peeve of some employers. Lousy communication of expectations, then telling you how disappointed they are that you didn't meet them.

@teekaybe4016

Жыл бұрын

exactly!! unless you can quantify the work ie. # of sales per month, % improved capacity of a machine.. ect...its very difficult to push back when management claims your work performance is not good. What I have learned is that the more you are seen the better others preserve you.And regardless of what metrics show management will likely give you a better review. I learned this the hard way.

@kennethb6211

Жыл бұрын

I had a major company ask me repeatedly if I know what we do here I said no please give me a clear concise explanation they couldn't i was relised the next day. Lol

@superblump87

Жыл бұрын

@@kennethb6211 you dropped the ball on that answer.

@John3.36

Жыл бұрын

Probably intentional. This is an indirect way of laying off.

@jimcole6423

Жыл бұрын

Many employers are like this.

Got played by the company. They needed someone to keep things running while they outsource their stuff. They dangled the 20K in front of him to keep him there. There was no way he could have ‘improved’ to their expectations.

@awsomo53

2 ай бұрын

This is exactly what happened

This is why Dave wants you to have 3-6 months of expenses in a safe place.

@blackworldtraveler3711

Жыл бұрын

I prefer 20 years.

@dancalmpeaceful3903

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY...!

@philipgerry5228

Жыл бұрын

@@blackworldtraveler3711 That’s even better!!

@hkmamacmd428

3 ай бұрын

Well, duh. Thats always nice when you can do this but not always possible for those who cant

The feeling of impending termination is one of the worst feelings.

@rayhawk8109

6 ай бұрын

Just went through this. The worst part is they were very unclear as to the exact reason as to why i was let go

@rayhawk8109

6 ай бұрын

I was working at macys and was brought in by loss prevention, I was so confused, they have this like backwards way of like explaining what you did wrong acting and assuming you just know what happened or what you did and then questioning you and making you out to be the bad guy. I made my quota every month, had tons of postive reviews, mostly made my sales goals. Oh no one tiny stupid rule and your done

@Bushidough

5 ай бұрын

For me it’s one of the best feelings

@Lost-mb1gj

2 ай бұрын

I’m going through this right now, they cancelled my shifts for the rest of the weekend and I’m due on Monday “for a conversation”. I know what’s coming…

@BillClinton228

2 ай бұрын

Especially when no one wants to talk to you or gives you any indication about why you're being fired.

I was laid off once and it was truly a blessing. Turns out I was underpaid.

Dangled a $20k carrot in front of his nose to get him to stay long enough to make it work on their end. The money was never coming, they just couldn't dissolve it all at once.

How convenient the company wants him to stay so they offer him money then fire him so they don’t have to give it to him . Trash bosses

@reese85

Жыл бұрын

His work isn’t good

@John3.36

Жыл бұрын

@@reese85 could be. Or it could be that it is an indirect way of firing him.

@reese85

Жыл бұрын

@@John3.36 the caller even said his work wasn’t good!

@John3.36

Жыл бұрын

@@reese85 I mean if he was put into a position with no preparation in which he was expected to get results, then failed at it; he was being honest.

Never rely on just one company. Always have choices ready once you hear anything about a lay offs. Update that resume and get back to business

@RandomVids519

Жыл бұрын

People get to used to routine human’s are very predictable

@realman1349

Жыл бұрын

Same when it comes to women 😂

@2legit2Kwit

Жыл бұрын

Yes! My son has three jobs. KZread, solar sales and amazon

I worked for a fortune 500 company and they hired me for a job and then tried to fire me for a mistake I made that was not part of what I was hired to do. When I met with HR I told them I had never been trained to do what I was asked to do and I was doing my best to help our project get completed. They did not fire me and I got the training I needed and ended up working there eight more years. Its important to stand up for yourself when other peoples mistakes try to come back on you.

@PurplePinkRed

4 ай бұрын

This is a rarity but yes! Definitely say something if you think you'll be out the door if you don't otherwise!

Instead of calling the Ramsey show, call an employment law attorney. It looks the employer is firing the caller to avoid paying the bonus out.

@stevenporter863

Жыл бұрын

Contingent fee only. Otherwise the attorney would cost more than he could recover.

@rickieguta1037

Жыл бұрын

T! z

@candy2325

Жыл бұрын

Unless he has something in writing or an official document that states the promised bonus then it seems like a waste of time and money to get an attorney.

@blackworldtraveler3711

Жыл бұрын

@@candy2325 Indeed. Seems many here can't understand that.

@pattyajones

Жыл бұрын

Texas is an "Employment at Will State", meaning either party can vacate employment at any time for any reason except protected classes.

There’s a 100% chance they won’t give him the 20k

@williamforsythe9180

Жыл бұрын

You sound pretty confident there bud

@RyanABC123

Жыл бұрын

@@williamforsythe9180 I am pal.

@williamforsythe9180

Жыл бұрын

@@RyanABC123 the Bible says to be humble chief. Do you know more than Jesus?

@RyanABC123

Жыл бұрын

@@williamforsythe9180 of course you’re a Bible guy.

@williamforsythe9180

Жыл бұрын

@@RyanABC123 are you autistic, son?

Don't admit to, or apologise for, any shortcomings in your work performance. Don't feel obligated to thank someone who's firing you. If they refuse the $20k, go speak to an employment attorney to see if you have any legal recourse. Promises made can end up legally binding.

@jimmymcgill6778

Жыл бұрын

Nothing written down. Nothing can be done.

@Outrageousconduct

Жыл бұрын

Roflamo if he's not doing the work he deserves to be fired

@reese85

Жыл бұрын

Yeah you can’t prove a verbal convo cuz they could say they promised the 20k if it worked out! But he’s getting fired for a bad work performance

@williamlocascio8946

Жыл бұрын

@@jimmymcgill6778 Better Call Saul!

@Rizky06

Жыл бұрын

With the exception of Montana the U.S. is "Fire At Will" even if they don't like your shoes. You can thank the Corporatocracy which runs America. No Bonus 💸 Only a 🦴

He better start applying. Don't count on that bonus.

@KC-dr3cg

Жыл бұрын

This is why he has an emergency fund

If a bonus was promised I would want it something in writing or contract

@camxdidxthat

Жыл бұрын

How do you ask for that without being offensive.

@justme87999

Жыл бұрын

@@camxdidxthat be offensive if you have to be. Asking directly and politely for something should not be offensive to a good company.

@CatfishBradley

5 ай бұрын

Don't play that game at all. ALWAYS insist on FAIR business. You should be able to get anything in writing, and if they take offense to that, RUN. @@camxdidxthat

Would love to see a follow-up on this call to see how the caller's week turned out.

Dave is out of touch, thinking a large corporation will negotiate. They have a prepared script and process, no negotiation outside external legal action. If they promised the 20k and you can prove it was offered and the conditions were satisfied, then the money is owed.

@liamvosefski2795

25 күн бұрын

Dave has sound financial advice that is 90% common sense. However, he is from an era where people stayed at a job for 40 years and then retired with benefits/ full pension. That's not the case today. What happened here is the company knew they were going to lay him off but they needed him around a bit longer than his coworkers. To avoid him quitting when they started layoffs they pulled him aside, offered a promotion and 20k bonus if he stayed. Once they knew that his usefulness was done they put him on a PIP, and are now firing him for cause. He'll likely get no severance nor will he be entitled to unemployment benefits. You are right his termination was plotted in detail from the minute they decided to keep him.

Don't mix a $20K bonus w/"severance" or you're heading down the road to ineligible for unemployment payments. This whole thing sounds screwy - if he was going to stay for $20K, he should've gotten when he agreed to stay.

@donnasalerno9870

Жыл бұрын

@Eddie DimasYes, this is the typical way it's done. I felt bad for this caller.

@jimcole6423

Жыл бұрын

Precisely correct.

@jameshumphrey3425

Жыл бұрын

It was done to keep him there while they were reorganizing the company, otherwise he would’ve been looking for a new job as soon as he saw his coworkers getting laid off.

@roxcyn

Жыл бұрын

That's what I'm thinking, too. They promised it to him in October and all of a sudden it's now in December. 🤔

@missladygray

Жыл бұрын

Retention bonuses are typically not paid out until the completion of the retention. He would have had to agree to it in writing. If he didn't, he won't see a dime.

They were going to lay him off anyways, and wanted to wait. He said he was going to quit (so he saw the writing on the wall). And they dangled the $20k in front of him and got him to stay, that money clouded his judgement. The performance reviews are them creating the paperwork they need to fire him. Slimy tactics by the employer

Boss is trying to get out of giving him the bonus

@stevenporter863

Жыл бұрын

If it is a large company and they benefited from having him, they will pay to get more of the same. Sounds like he was not as advertised.

@blackworldtraveler3711

Жыл бұрын

Seems he just stayed but didn't earn it. If he was good enough to keep he would have gotten that bonus.

He should call back and follow up to see what transpired

Hes not getting that 20K. He knew they were going to can him. He should have been looking for something else and left before they could let him go. These corporations are terrible. I dont trust any of them.

@deepthinker999

4 ай бұрын

Well Said

Awesome call! Just what I needed to hear right now... Thank you.

Fantastic Analysis and advice.Daves experience and wisdom is really shining through on this one.For those of us who have been in similar situations giving our everything and being told to run faster without having the right training,tools or leadership we can definitely relate, except having 20k to look forward too 😭💰😏

Sounds like the company planned on going back to outsourcing but they couldnt contractually do it immediately so they fired everyone and kept one guy in the department to do all of the work with a 20k carrot over his head. After they got what they wanted for the timeframe they needed they canned him and said it was a performance issue so they didnt have to uphold their end of the deal contractually

@candy2325

Жыл бұрын

So messed up

@blackworldtraveler3711

Жыл бұрын

That $20k wasn't in writing. The guy was his own worse enemy.

@chickenfixn4439

Жыл бұрын

@@blackworldtraveler3711 I missed that. You cant trust anything if its not in writing

@workenhard

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. no way was he ever going to get the 20k they just played this poor dude like a fiddle.

@blackworldtraveler3711

Жыл бұрын

@@workenhard Nothing in writing. The dude played himself ignoring keywords like “layoff”, “promise”, and especially “outsourcing”. He also ignored economic current events in the U.S.. At lease he was still getting a salary.

He made a good point! The squeaky wheel gets the grease/attention! So, just know that you need to ask and don’t wait for them to bring it up, because they probably won’t! Just ask with confidence!! Good Luck’

This video popped up in my recommendations because I’m going through the exact situation (besides the 20K haha), and relate to him so much - never felt heard more!!!!!!! Love Dave!

They gave him the job as a placeholder because they always wanted to fire him don’t believe the lies…

Honestly, even when you work your hardest, struggle to make ends meet and try your absolute best, bad employers will always find ways to beat you down. Always best to leave an environment like that, and if you don't get the 20k then at least you get a fresh start to find a better employer who values you and recognises your strengths

You go in there with your head held high you shake the persons hand and say thank you for the opportunity I’m sorry it didn’t work out have a nice life I wish you success

Here is what you really should do: have your doctor write a note you have some disability (literally anything qualifies, depression, anxiety etc). Tell your employer you have the disability. Then when they try to fire you, you can spin it legally to say you fired me because of a disability

Has your progress or lack of been documented? Have you signed any paperwork regarding this? First thing at your meeting take the initiative, ask about the bonus and when can you expect it.

You never say thank you or admit to short comings when put on a performance improvement plan. Companies don’t care about employees, they care about profit.

They should have paid the $20K in October as promised, and offered more for him to stay until December.

@reese85

Жыл бұрын

Idk about giving him more, if he wasn’t good at his job

@barnabusdoyle4930

Жыл бұрын

The money was never actually on the table. It was just a carrot the company used to convince their staff to train their replacements. Lucy and the football

@angelmyers869

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@missladygray

Жыл бұрын

If it wasn't in writing then il as far as the company is concerned, they never promised it.

@CatfishBradley

5 ай бұрын

Stupid argument considering they hand picked him to stay aboard and keep things afloat until they were ready to move to a different company for his role (job=outsourced). If he sucked, why would they offer it to him? 90% likelihood is they never intended on giving him the bonus, it was just a carrot/stick to clean up loose ends before they hire the new company. Regardless of how you feel about HIS work, THEY held 10000% of the authority, and SHOULD bear the responsibility of making a poor choice, and promising you things they didn't want to pay out.@@reese85

The caller needs to consult an attorney regarding his dilemma. You deserve to get the money that you've worked for.

We need a follow up to find out what happened!

I would've gotten that bonus in writing some way, shape or form. If he brings this to court, that's the first thing the judge will ask. I know you aren't entitled to a severance, but he definitely should get something for staying throughout

@blackworldtraveler3711

Жыл бұрын

I guess you can always ask. What happens next is up to the employer.

Know what you need and want before you go in. Let them know you will hold them accountable. Get it in writing right then.

Great advice Dave

8:35 love it when Dave sticks it to them

Great suggestions on this call!

Sounds like they used him to transition but are using performance reviews as a way to keep from paying him. That's why they didn't pay him in October as they originally said.

Props to Dave

I made a mistake at work. In what I call my first “big boy job”. I missed something due not being detailed enough in one area. Which caused hassle for everyone. And despite doing well in every other area. They were not happy and haven't forgotten. It's my first time in 12 years of working that I've felt disappointed in myself to this extent. So now I'm preparing myself. Mistakes happen though.

Take care of Yourself! You are only a number! Focus on your dream instead of theirs

Beans and rice, rice and beans.... Sounds like his dog was on the phone line too and getting frustrated. That dog had some info we didn't get to hear.

When management wants to get rid of you no matter what you do will save your job. In this case the guy stayed to fill a role that just didn't work. He should have got the money upfront!

I was suddenly laid off last November after coming back from having Covid. Went back on a Wednesday & that Friday morning, I was pulled into the VP’s office. There was talk starting in the summer, about moving me up to a different position because that department needed help. I had a lot of health issues that year which unfortunately needed time off for / working at home, when allowed. I think in the end, they just wanted me out and didn’t want to give me any sort of boost in pay, which was a question I had with switching roles. The morning I was let go, I immediately came home and downloaded Indeed on my phone and started applying. A couple of weeks later, I got a new job.

This is why I’m going to start my own e-commerce business. I was laid off once and I was never absent and I was on the job everyday working as hard as I can. Boy that was scary and a wake-up call. 😂

@jadore1339

Жыл бұрын

I’m doing the same too. Working on my e-commerce project while I hang on to my 12 hour job.

@ilexevergreen5405

Жыл бұрын

What kind of e-commerce?

@jadore1339

Жыл бұрын

@@ilexevergreen5405 multivendor

@christopherallen9580

Жыл бұрын

join the masses

I bet they were lying about that 20k just to keep you working until they lay off everyone as soon as they can. I would have wanted that 20k TO stay on. Not if I stay on and they can fire me for any reason and not pay what they promised. Very sketchy and dishonest employer. Wouldn't trust them one bit.

4:15 Sounds like he was frustrated with Dave's answer, lol.

Dave is so great with words

@carojames6776

Жыл бұрын

And numbers.

Management isn't about punishing people. They should be working with their people to build them up.

@deepthinker999

4 ай бұрын

It would be great if we all lived on that planet.

Sage words: NEVER count on a bonus!

@blackworldtraveler3711

Жыл бұрын

You can count on them when in writing.

I was asked to pay back a signing bonus because I was not there the required time. They fired me and I would have stayed. I did not pay it back.

Lol “sure you can give it to me upfront”

It sounds like they put him in a position to fail knowing they were going to eliminate his job. His first recourse when he was initially told his performance was unacceptable would be to ask for coaching help or training to meet their expectations. If they don’t want help, the writing is on the wall, you’re toast. Don’t burn your bridges, by trash mouthing the company. Try to get a letter of recommendation to put in your resume. The company won’t give a bad recommendation since that may come back to haunt them. Take notes of all conversations, if it becomes a legal matter, those with the best backup will normally prevail.

If the option was being laid off or getting some weird promotion, I think I would have just taken the lay-off. They are already having some serious problems apparently and if they're this inconsistent, I think it's time to leave.

This is why you always have to get these things in writing. The company is screwing him

But guys, they always say "We are a family here"

@deepthinker999

4 ай бұрын

That is a big red flag about the employer you are dealing with.

This is why you get it in writing folks.

Some management at branches of a big company will sometimes manipulate a situation in a way of basically setting people up to fail, so that instead of giving them a raise they will give themselves a raise and replace you with a new worker for the same wage.

lol on the headline, I mean I feel bad, but lol at the same time

In my opinion, when you are being terminated, never ever own up to anything because of unemployment benefits may be denied

@deepthinker999

4 ай бұрын

If you were involuntarily terminated for performance, then UI should be paid. If you resign, then you get nothing unless you can prove discrimination.

Ask if you can resign instead, because fired, no matter what, just doesn’t look good….

@chopshec83

Жыл бұрын

I'd be careful with that one depending on the state you could also lose out on unemployment benefits if you just resign instead of being fired.

I am grateful to work in a field. If I were let go tomorrow then. I would have a job by the end of the week. I hope this guy got on with a beater company

Lesson 1: take the bonus upfront. You're taking the risk so they must put something on the line. I just signed a retention bonus and I was paid the next check

Sounds like there is something is fishy here…employers trying a fast one?

It could be worse, I was told today the insurance rates went up 400 bucks a month and deductables doubled, with the hsa plan I expect to pay close to 23k a year

Unless there is a contractual or legal obligation to pay him a severance, or a portion of the completion bonus, if they are terminating his with cause he gets zilch. It's not a negotiation like Dave says unless they want to continue an employment relationship with him.

I wish we could an update on this

Always have other options in your back pocket. I get job offers every month. I have turned them all down because I am going to retire early so no need for changing jobs right now. But over the years, it's great to know I had many options for maintaining income if I needed to. Good luck to this gentleman.

@genxx2724

Жыл бұрын

What kind of work do you do?

@Bob-yh7ir

Жыл бұрын

@@genxx2724 IT

@genxx2724

Жыл бұрын

@@Bob-yh7ir People in IT seem to have a lot of options. On the other hand, it’s a function that can be outsourced to India.

@deepthinker999

4 ай бұрын

@@genxx2724 Not anymore. IT currently leads in corporate layoffs.

"At the minimum I would be willing to accept a prorated amount of the $20k less the X weeks to the Dec 31st date."

P’ss Poor. That’s the Dave I love!

Had a job that they talked to me about my performance in early parts of the summer. For months I thought I was doing well. No meetings by my manager or anyone else then December came and they told me switch postions or we'll let you go. They wanted to switch my position completely. I left the company.

If he "thinks" he's getting fired why not beat them to the punch! Walk in to bosses office and just say I feel like this will be the day you plan to fire me. Instead I'm quiting as of right now, gives you the upper hand albeit not having a job doesn't make for warm and fuzzy feelings. It is not something you are able to change in an instant just collect your belongings and walk out.

@genxx2724

Жыл бұрын

If you quit, you can’t receive unemployment insurance.

@missladygray

Жыл бұрын

Don't quit a job without another job secured first. Otherwise let them fire you so that you can at least draw unemployment.

If u have a target on ur head, no amount of talking to others or asking for help is going to change the outcome. This is corporate culture....

Dave: the company is allowed to lie to you and you should thank them for that.

Since he was in Baby Step 3, how should he have approached it? I was looking forward to hearing that portion since I am in a similar boat

HOW DO I CONTACT YOU GUYS?!?! You guys have to hear my job story!!!

She has an amazing RICH radio voice.

If you don't have a contract. They don't owe you anything.

@sglacf

Жыл бұрын

Verbal is a just as good of an agreement

@reese85

Жыл бұрын

@@sglacf how can you prove that?

@amireallythatgrumpy6508

Жыл бұрын

@@sglacf You need proof of what was agreed to, otherwise it just becomes a case of "he said, she said".

@blackworldtraveler3711

Жыл бұрын

Yup where I worked bonuses,profit sharing,awards,gifts,etc. were all agreed upon in contract every seven or so years.. Set mine up to be auto deposited in 401k each year.

@jimmymcgill6778

Жыл бұрын

@@sglacf How? The business can always say that they didn't say that.

Get it in writing or tape it on your phone, could help.

Make a dunce cap to wear to the meeting. I did that once ha

Learn about quiet quitting and constantly being ready to change jobs by watching Joshua Fluke. And you have no control over the time it takes for the outsourcing company to be ready. Learn from this. Never train your replacement. Don’t be a rat on a sinking ship.

That does not sound like a persuasive negotiation

What does the stay bonus have to do with anything currently going on? They are two separate issues.

If he has that promise in writing, he needs to use it.

@genxx2724

Жыл бұрын

There are probably e-mails at least.

Start hitting the payment. What else do you do? I think I know why you were terminated.

Obviously, they are firing him to not pay the 20k. Companies have no interest in spending a single extra dime for a lost contract or outsourced department. Whenever a company makes these kinds of offers, make sure to get it in writing with the details explicitly defined prior to agreeing.

Start looking for a new job.

@BattleFights

Жыл бұрын

He has a youtube channel buddy

@Sunmoonstars976

Жыл бұрын

@@BattleFights does he? Link please?

They were never going to give him the $20k. They needed him to finish the project before they fired him with the rest of the department.

The 20k is going into managements pockets 120%

I’m hoping somebody sees this before Monday : I’ve been at a transportation job for 7 months with in that time I’ve gotten two recommendations from passengers. Everytime this happens it gets worse for me . 1. The dispatch talks to me mean and in an intimidating way . 2. In person he acts like he’s innocent 3. Union rep pull me to the side and told me …they don’t know how to receive me bcus of my up bringing …I don’t act like I’m in the streets it’s been 20 years ago … 4. Now I’m having back to back meetings where the manager is lying …yesterday I asked a question in a meeting and he lied to me in my face . 5. I was told if I can take how the dispatcher is acting towards me …until he retires …I’ll be ok …but I trying but I can’t 6. At this point I don’t know rather to quit or put in a two week notice 7. I feel like the manager and dispatch is trying to get me to resign or they gonna find some way to get me in trouble with the law by lying….idk …this just my situation…

I’ve been trying to get fired for the last three years and my dad and family will not do it! All their jobs are night jobs and I really dislike working nights? I could walk away and get another job, but then I’ll feel bad because they are having a hard time finding good employees to work their jobs. If they are firing me then it’s out of my hands and I won’t feel as bad?

There’s your story, their story, and the truth. A neighbor in my hometown had a deceased father that was an Engineer. One day a supervisor approached him in a hallway, asked him a project question - he didn’t know the answer right then and there and so he got fired on the spot. Another time a co-worker told me he used to work as a supervisor at a large retail company. Upper management would order him to fire 3-4 people a week because they were downsizing their budget.

@deepthinker999

4 ай бұрын

Then the let the guy go who did all of the firing.

Any time an employer owes you something they look at it a leverage to fire you to avoid paying it out. I've seen several people be fired to avoid paying pensions. 401k are better than pensions because firing you doesn't get the company the money.

@deepthinker999

4 ай бұрын

If you are terminated to avoid paying a pension, then you have a case. A EEOC filing is a no cost option. Case law indicates that the courts do not look kindly on this issue.

@kevinmiller5467

4 ай бұрын

@@deepthinker999Like when Sears fired the guy for "stealing" a candy bar so they didn't have to pay his 30 year pension. You might have the case law on your side but the company has lawyers on their side. The proper cure for the guy fired for stealing would be his 30 year pension -$1.50. But they just took his 30 year retirement.

I think it was the company plan to give 2 or 3 bad reviews regardless of performance in order to terminate employment before bonus is due.