The bundled Samsung cable failing followed by a Samsung end-roll read was high comedy. Thank you.

@GrumIsMe

2 жыл бұрын

Same, I genuinely cackled

@grahameida7163

2 жыл бұрын

Came here to say the same 🤣

@FAQUERETERMAX

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@phantomhofficial5776

2 жыл бұрын

That's how you know they ain't shills

@basvanharen2904

2 жыл бұрын

haha, that was hilarious😂

This is going to be my favorite series in LTT, next to scrapyard wars. Test all the cables!

@YHK_YT

2 жыл бұрын

among….

@QuadsMode9

2 жыл бұрын

@@YHK_YT sus

@iFurore

2 жыл бұрын

yep

@septuamticsaneeh8891

2 жыл бұрын

Copied comment?

@Ivan-iu7xf

2 жыл бұрын

What happened to the turbo need series

I find it pretty funny that 1 of the 2 cables that failed was bundled with a monitor from Samsung, the video sponsor.

@ChrLOwens

2 жыл бұрын

I definitely hit the comments to find the first one that said this. You win.

@kaloosi7539

2 жыл бұрын

yo moga

@callmetatan

2 жыл бұрын

Is that really you?

@bluewolf37777

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair I wouldn’t buy Samsung anything anymore. They make decent displays but you can normally find better from other manufacturers.

@oienu

Жыл бұрын

XD but that fail could be just wear, or just a defective one, who knows. All my monitors are DP (I have one on DVI because the 1060 just have 2 DP) and one cable was damage because the tension, I got a new onw of 3m instead 1,8m.

Okay, that's two bonuses for Displayport. 1, their version numbers still mean something. 2, the cables are surprisingly reliable!

@Pseudoswede

Жыл бұрын

And I’ve yet to see a locking HDMI connector.

@Oblivion9873

Жыл бұрын

@@Pseudoswede I used to have one (sorta), wasn't as solid of a locking mechanism and you stiffly had to squeeze the top and bottom of the connector head. DP locks are much better

It's so necessary to do this with cables to see who is being honest and who's not. No one really wanted to do it, so it's good LTT has been able to turn this absolutely labor-intensive process into a highly requested series and entertaining videos.

@Tential1

2 жыл бұрын

That's why I watched and threw a like. Ya, it's boring stuff to do, but the community needs this to be done. Cables are something we assume to work because it's not hard to do, yet someone will always want to take advantage of our trust.

@Mr.Morden

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, I mean we need some sort of universal cable standard, that would be great for consumers and manufacturers to know what they need to do. Oh... wait... they tried that and totally screwed it up. 🤦‍♂

@bluewolf37777

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. I have wasted so much money and returned so many cables over the years. The last monitor I got came with a cable that couldn’t even output 10 bit color. Then my TV hdmi cord set that i bought especially for when i upgrade to a 4k TV later couldn’t even output 4k reliably once I upgraded. It’s complete BS.

@angelarce3801

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@TastyDizaster

2 жыл бұрын

Up until cable companies start pulling an Adata and remaking their sku's after they receive good reviews

Want to find a LOT of failures? Test out the DP->HDMI and HDMI->DP converters. Those have absolutely been more fail than pass whenever trying to connect newer computers to older monitors, or elsewise. A *constant* cause of headaches at work.

@BeamDeam

2 жыл бұрын

I had one DP->HDMI converter, that failed on me after about 3 months later.

@Flootyy

2 жыл бұрын

I had a hdmi to DP that worked with xbox series x (lg monitor) but not with ps5 on an acer predator monitor. my theory is that my lg had some whatever hd cp technology that allowed it. but it actually worked with the ps5 HOWEVER when i booted a game that supported 120 hz, the screen would just black out. when turning it to resolution mode, it didn't. weird right?

@technologyanimals

2 жыл бұрын

They suck.

@Mathinios

2 жыл бұрын

I have one of this because my screen is on VGA/HDMI but my graphics card is Display port

@jacobeii

2 жыл бұрын

i have a DVI to display portadapter i havent had it for long but it works nice for now

You're doing gods work with this series, and I love it.

@gdrocket540

2 жыл бұрын

Please make more breaking minecraft videos

@digitalcthulhu143

2 жыл бұрын

Based AntVenom

@Zaicyn

2 жыл бұрын

@@derwinralph1893 no

@lucasrem1870

2 жыл бұрын

Linus is stupid clickbait ads, Canadian refugees, needing Asian crap! Asian Gods?

@FinnishArmy

2 жыл бұрын

No way, It's AntVenom!

That explains why my Odyssey G9 keeps flickering off then on for me and it just happens that a bundled Samsung cable failed for you guys. I thought it was my 5700. I'll have to buy a new cable then! Thanks for this one!

@WahotsW

2 жыл бұрын

My Acer Predator started flickering about a year and a half ago. I think it's the cable, especially after this video (10ft DP since I use a standing desk). Seems like shorter is better across all cables!

@sinuslebastian6366

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently this is a widespread issue with the G9 and the G7 included cables if the comments are to be believed here. LTT Or Gamers Nexus should do an investigative piece on this imo.

@krilega

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, Samsung Neo G9 and included cable is completely f'd. Blackscreen with Nvidia every 20-30 secs @ 240Hz. 120Hz was fine as long as i didn't go into 10 bit / HDR. Bought a longer 7ft Club3D one, no more issues. Samsung has become so bad value and quality lately in the 49" monitor space because there is just no competition.

@hussainmahdi3519

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen many complains about the G9 bundled cable to the point that whenever I see someone complaining about G9 flickering I can bet that there's a comment somewhere blaming the bundled cable.. And it works in like 99% of times that just replacing the cable will fix the issue.

@TheAkifreak

2 жыл бұрын

I had the exact same issue with my Odyssey and a 5700XT ! Switched to a 6900XT and the issues got worse with FreeSync not working anymore. Bought a DP Cable as my last resort and it fixed both issues permanently :)

The group in charge of display port standards and certification should be pretty proud of this. This kind of reliability across manufacturers is impressive.

@jordananderson2728

2 жыл бұрын

And the fact that their naming scheme makes sense

@notjoss

2 жыл бұрын

Stop, you guys are gonna jinx it.

@BlastinRope

2 жыл бұрын

Is it? Or is that your hyperbolic reaction to watching this LTT video?

@hubertnnn

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was a big HDMI fanboy until this whole HDMI 2.1 garbage. After that I was considering switching to DP where possible. But now after seeing this video, I know DP is the way to go.

@matrixfull

2 жыл бұрын

HDMI went full in on marketing scheme based on scammers playbook.

"Wow this Samsung cable failed our test!" "This video was brought to you by Samsung"

@asifhamid5742

2 жыл бұрын

I was looking for this comment 🤣🤣🤣

@kornkernel2232

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like somebody at Samsung will have some talks to do with their cable suppliers.

@Rainbow__cookie

2 жыл бұрын

Ironic

@s.i.m.c.a

2 жыл бұрын

cables != all Samsung production...and i doubt that Samsung manufacture them

6:52 "I'm not calling it that." My hero. Thanks for continuously holding standardizing organizations to...standards, Linus!

In a work environment where I'm dealing with thousands of each type, I find myself preferring HDMI because it either works or it doesn't. The DP cables renegotiating signal is a huge pain. For example, a monitor randomly going black for a few seconds then coming back up. Users will often deal with the issue for a while until it annoys them enough to contact the IT department. As opposed to an HDMI cable where their screen goes black and stays black and instead of contacting us, they'll grab a spare HDMI cable and try replacing it on their own.

@remington8115

2 жыл бұрын

Also when a cable is clearly dead peolpe will throw them away, when cables kind of work they end up getting stashed and used again to cause issues.

@zarblitz

2 жыл бұрын

Makes sense for that kind of environment. You want everyone to be working or clearly not working. Diagnosing an issue is time and money. As an individual user, I definitely prefer DP.

@pmackni

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I can get that. Our firm's IT seems to prefer DP, but I think that's at least partly due to the lack of HDMI ports on the graphics cards they kit our designer machines with (usually only 1 as opposed to 3 DP, whereas most consumer cards have 1 DP and 3 HDMI).

@whasian1487

2 жыл бұрын

@@pmackni true. We have mini desktops that have 3 DP ports only. But then we have Dell laptops that only have HDMI. Sometimes we use DP to HDMI adapters in special cases where a new DP run would take a while to be replaced and just need the blinking to go away.

@TG-nq3dw

2 жыл бұрын

HDMI? You like those low framerates? I have never had a DisplayPort cable not work.

I’m guessing USB-C cables are next in line for Total Phase-based scrutiny. Still, I’m really enjoying these cable-verification videos.

@TheDutchisGaming

2 жыл бұрын

LTT: he knows too much

@majoryoshi

2 жыл бұрын

This or ethernet

@MrRafting

2 жыл бұрын

maybe thunderbolt? if the cable tester has that option

@TheNpcNoob

2 жыл бұрын

@@majoryoshi Ethernet cable’s wouldn’t really make sense to test though

@nikolapetrov5808

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely need to see USB-C cables and a throughout explanation of all the modes in which they can operate

Lessons I learned between this and the HDMI video: -Display port is better than HDMI -Never buy 25' display port -Never buy Monoprice cables -HDMI is good at 6', sketchy at 10'+ -Infinite Cables is top quality and bottom price -Amazon Basics is fine enough quality at ok pricing. -All the cables I own are garbage but at least I have ancient technology so are fine for the time being.

@psionx1

2 жыл бұрын

you can go longer than 25" you just need a expensive fiberoptic cable.

@zeendaniels5809

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much, yeah.

@AnonymousMod.

2 жыл бұрын

@@psionx1 I use 50ft at work at the time. You just need not garbage cables. They are mostly thicker then a finger.

@curtisbme

2 жыл бұрын

@@psionx1 Yes, but we haven't seen these tested yet either. More niche but still would help folks looking at them for reasons like putting the computer in a different room.

@Powerman293

2 жыл бұрын

It's more like HDMI 2.1 specifically is garbage

This is probably my favorite ongoing series from LMG. This type of testing from somebody as huge as these is a HUGE boon for the tech enthusiast community. Can't wait for more testing from different stuff as it comes along.

That part about the extra power pin on cheap DP cables is no joke. I had a couple that literally electrified my chassis and I got shocked several times by those little shits before I figured out what was going on. Fortunately they didn't fry any of the equipment (the PCs or hopefully mine) in the process. VESA certified cables are worth it.

@bigdoggo5827

2 жыл бұрын

So what kind of dp cable do you recommend? The VESA certified ones?

@THEUrinalCake

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigdoggo5827 Yep to my understanding anything VESA certified should be 19 pin and not shocky/shorty time

@andrewk8636

Жыл бұрын

aint no way the able is what shocked you. its max voltage is only 16v. chances are it was a short from something else shorting onto the display port connector

He really wasn’t kidding when he said he’ll start testing cables

@bluephreakr

2 жыл бұрын

@Pikachu1 Neat! Now become a convertible.

@kaldo_kaldo

2 жыл бұрын

An astute observation

@jemiebridges3197

2 жыл бұрын

to be fair, cables can really kill a project and Apple outright figured out you'd make way more selling cables back before even the power pc phase. $80 cables.

Linus: "the included samsung cable failed." Linus 10 seconds later: "today's video is brought to you by Samsung" This is one of the big reasons I like LTT so much. Sponsor dollars don't dictate the info you share.

@ShermCR

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Linus literally was like, "any other new cable is better than your samsung cable, by the way samsung paid me to say that" LMAO

@99Plastics

2 жыл бұрын

they dont give a shit if he says some cable is cheap so long as he promotes you their new tv and that will make you buy it next time he makes "omg samsing monitor so good"

@Foxfady

2 жыл бұрын

@@99Plastics because the monitor is good...? linus is truth based is what the comment was saying and not easily bought with money

@imoffendedthatyouareoffended

2 жыл бұрын

@@Foxfady facts, I have a Samsung 4K monitor that’s 99% accurate in adobe rgb. It’s fucking immaculate. And it wasn’t even one he recommended. Samsung can make some pretty damn amazing monitors and tvs.

@Longgshot

2 жыл бұрын

@@imoffendedthatyouareoffended They can also make some pretty bad ones XD. When i was buying for my previous monitor (which was Samsung), i got a Samsung one that i had to refund because it made my eyes hurt really bad and really quick, the image was good in both colour and speed, but it did something that caused those really bad side effects. And i'm accustomed to being in front of a pc screen for long periods of time, so that i couldn't bear it for more than 15 mins is a really bad sign. The previous and the next monitors to that problematic one were also Samsung tho, generally they really know how to tune the pixel overdrive modes. But in the end i ended with a 144hz Asus monitor. :)

I would also love to see durability testing on cables, although I expect that would be more something for the lab. In my experience some brands of cables tend work fine when new but have a horrible failure rate. I have mostly noticed this with Amazon Basics, I bought a few of their HDMI, display port, usb, and ethernet cables several years ago, out of 9 cables only 2 still work today and most of those that failed did so in less then 2 years of use. This is just around my home and office, it is not a harsh environment. Out of the 50+ other random cheap cables that I own I've only had 5 failures in the last 15 years. Needless to say, I no longer buy Amazon Basics cables.

Thank you LTT for doing informative videos like this! I LOVE you guys testing cables and GN testing PSUs and fans (soon!) ****Please keep doing these generationally!!****

Shout out to the graphics dept. the DP and HDMI explainer was great.

@onimashou8705

2 жыл бұрын

Ethernet cables are next to test

I bought a Samsung G9 that ended up having a borked cable included with it. Thankfully I had spares to quickly test and confirm, but it is disappointing to see that it was maybe not a one-off case. For such pricy, quality products you would think a cable would the last thing they would skimp on. I wonder how many RMAs happened because people assumed the monitor was to blame for flicker and no signal.

@denysumudov9584

2 жыл бұрын

same sh1t, bought 4k 144hz g7 and it was going dark and disconnecting for a second some times( though it was monitor, but glad I had a spare DP cable and there was 0 issues with that)

@MiGujack3

2 жыл бұрын

Why bother giving good cables when can give them the OEM bin trash they all share.

@batzraph708

2 жыл бұрын

I have a Samsung odyssey g7 32" and have been using the cable that came with.... But now I'm concerned, which cable should I buy to replace the Samsung

@Pretagonist

2 жыл бұрын

I had a Samsung cable for my g9 oddysey neo that I suspect was broken. The screen would randomly go black for a second or two. Then I bought a new cable from Amazon that made the problem go away. LTT should get people to send in their Samsung DP cables because I suspect this is a widespread issue.

@snowwsquire

2 жыл бұрын

@@batzraph708 if its working then dont change anything, just keep it in your mind if something goes wrong

Thank you so much for doing this. The lab is invaluable for these sorts of rigorous tests. Looking forward to all future videos

Yayy, thank you for making this one - and thanks for including my comment!! That was super cool :D

I want Linus to say the locking tabs are "nice to have" when he's trying to disengage them. About 75% of the time across a variety of brands, I have found that they do not fully disengage. It's a "feature" which needs a LOT of refining before we accept it.

@Nelo390

2 жыл бұрын

@@namantherockstar You don't need a professional mic, as most are wayyy overpriced. Look at YT vids of mics under 100$ for some good Cheaper ones to get the most bang for your buck.

@tsimmersjr

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeycrackson I'd take those screw-in connectors over these, any day. At least then, the worst thing that would happen was that the stud would also screw out and you'd have to spend 10 seconds putting it back in. I've had DP cables with the locking tabs so poorly designed that I feared breaking the port with how hard I had to pull to get them out.

@miragept

2 жыл бұрын

My only displayport male connector doesn't have any problems, i love locking connectors and the displayport implementation for it does work, even though it would be better perhaps if they used the more traditional style(mini fit jr style), VGA+DVI with the screw locking are also nice but less convenient to work than DP and i absolutely hate HDMI.

@idofps9709

2 жыл бұрын

@@namantherockstar how are they your inspiration? You don't even do tech videos

@kaldo_kaldo

2 жыл бұрын

I can't stand dp locking, in my experience it is always a nuisance. Not really sure what the benefit of it is. If someone trips over the cable, do you want it to pull your computer/monitor down, or the cable to release? Other than this scenario, what does a lock matter?

I would really like a kind of calculator, where your put in your desired resolution, refresh rate and color depth and it tells you which cable would be optimal. This would drastically simplify the buying decision.

@pranavbadrinathan6693

2 жыл бұрын

Now THAT sounds like a good coding project.

@realfangplays

2 жыл бұрын

Also probably desired length of the cable would be a good point

@groszak1

2 жыл бұрын

I would like 1152×900 at 4000 pixels per meter, 60 frames per second, and 32 bits per pixel with 8 bits per sRGB channel.

Yep, this and the hdmi cable test was extremely interesting, very happy that you did this, once and for all showing what might be the issue for many customers and that its more simple than you might think Got this happening with a longer DP cable a while back myself, but yep, it was a OEM cable, when buying a proper one instead, it has been working fine for over a year now without any glitches or random black screens

I LOVED the scene at 8:11 of Plouffe and Colin handshaking!!! That was awesome!

As an electrical engineer, I love that this channel tells me everything and doesn't leave out information. I'm probably a minority who cares about the exact details, but I appreciate it

@carolouellet

2 жыл бұрын

I also care about the details even though I don't understand them all. At least it's there for any kind of reference!

@willwunsche6940

2 жыл бұрын

Seeing the extra details over and over again you slowly start to pick up on it

@5federline

2 жыл бұрын

It looked like full of details but not completely perfect. It have some shitty information between them. For me, i'm not taken all words from tech KZreadr easily either from jayz, linus or even GN especially, etc. LMAO

@michaelboyce3227

Жыл бұрын

@Plumokin I'm a little surprised as an EE you missed the flub-up @ 9:27 about continuity (it's funny too because @ 9:10 he got it right)

@Naokarma

Жыл бұрын

Details are important. Oversimplification, even when you don't care about the details, feels like being treated like a child. It's much better to have them and let the viewer decide if they care or not.

USB C cables would be REALLY interesting to test, considering just how varied and different in both performance and advertised capabilities this cable standard has!

@MrScorpianwarrior

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I would love to see if the cables actually hold up to the new "USB4.a3 Gen 62.z Rev. a.2 Ver. 2025"

This was a very informative video! I walked away from the HDMI video not really understanding what the actionable take away should be. But this video has two take aways for me: I should opt for DP over HDMI when possible for the reliability, and my new monitor occasionally turning off and then on could likely be the bundled DP cable. Thanks LTT!

Funny how recently I had problems with my new monitor where it would go blank for a second mid game and I didn't have the nerve to look into it yet. You you just gave me the solution in your "link training" segment. Thanks and keep the good work up guys

This is a really good preview of what the LTT lab (LTTL? Palindrome?) will be like! Can't wait for this sort of extensive testing on everything!

I'd like to see these comparisons done with cables that are 5m, 10m and upwards. Maybe also testing how active repeaters improve the signal.

@xXxJakobxXx3

2 жыл бұрын

This is ridiculous, my reply that I also would love to see longer cables gets deleted. There was also a recommendation for a specific recommendation for a repeater which is DisplayPort 1.4 from a known brand with 3D in it’s name. And this stupid *** bot is still there!

@Kawayolnyo

2 жыл бұрын

Belkin never failed me even at the 15+ meter points, thus far. They do start pricing them way higher once you go anywhere further than 8 or 10, though.

@neonspecter2730

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kawayolnyo Is that active, or still a passive cable?

@remington8115

2 жыл бұрын

Really hope they do this with USB cables. So many will kind of work in regards to power/speed past 10ft but not deliver up to spec. Hope they really expand this series and testing with labs.

Yay! You guys are doing exactly what I'd hoped you would when you got a cable tester. I figured as much, but still great to see.

Yes! More of this please. Been looking forward to it for so long.

I've had so many bad DP cables from Dell, it's good to know that the included cables often fail. That Samsung cable looked suspiciously similar to the Dell cables.

@LegionRRTX

2 жыл бұрын

it most likely is the same one, just with different logos

@recklessjunkie

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was thinking in was my rtx 3070 fe it’s probably the supplied cable for my dell s2721q

@ToTheGAMES

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah same here. ALL my included with Dell monitors DP cables failed. All of them.

@andrewhellmann1434

2 жыл бұрын

What cable did you end up buying as a replacement? Im going to buy the s2522hg.

@Darth_Modred

7 ай бұрын

and mine failed after 1 month of use, shit samsung

Thanks Samsung for providing us with one of the two cables, that failed. Also thanks Samsung for sponsoring today's video. LTT has just gained one point of reputation ^^

This has just proven my appreciation for DP. While sometimes frustrating, I've been pretty scrupulous when looking for cables. Glad to know I can ease up on my requirements some, but still probably going to stick with the manufacturer I've been buying (I like consistent looks, and not having any cable failures doesn't hurt).

Ive been watching you since I was a child building my first PC. You have taught me so much useful and useless stuff, I know you spoke about video burnout but im sure most of your fans appreciate all the work you and your team puts in for non guaranteed income in a way. Thanks linus!

Samsung: is the manufacturer of the only failing cable. Also samsung: is sponsor of the video.

@IronicSonics

2 жыл бұрын

Is this why their g7 monitors have qa issues?

@didnotwantthis

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair they probably didn't manufacture it, but they did bundle it. Not really redeeming though.

What I learned from this: Even cables matter, "A cable is a cable" just isn't true. But also, for now just go displayport, there versions make sense and its cables are actually what they say.

@mrpink96

2 жыл бұрын

I dont think that phrase was ever true. Cable quality has ALWAYS mattered.

@Frizzy9000

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrpink96 Yeah very true, but that was often general consensus. Remember what people think here is more techy then most. I am gonna edit what I said though, as it may have sounded misleading

@v3xman

2 жыл бұрын

I would have gone display port but none of my monitors have DP input :(

@austinbergen2409

2 жыл бұрын

@@dawn-blade HIGH chance your cable is faulty, there are many other commenters talking about the Odyssey and it's faulty cables!

Amazing! i've been having issues with my Display port connection, i've had the flickering and was thinking about buying a new one but held off, this video came at the perfect time !!

Linus always reads my mind when it comes to his content. Looking for the best displayport cord for a 2021 G7. This video was very informative

Would be nice to see a greater investigation into the cables provided by monitor manufactures, especially the cables that come with G-Sync and FreeSync displays.

@bemb4064

2 жыл бұрын

@@dawn-blade are there any display port cables that support 240hz at 4k? or do you know of any? if not what about 144 or 165hz at 4k?

@123sleepygamer

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah cause I think the DP cable that came with my ASUS monitor is causing my monitor to flash on/off with Gsync turned on. It DOESN'T DO IT WITH GSYNC OFF EITHER. Only when it's turned on. I think it's the fuckin cable, this entire time I thought my GPU's drivers were corrupt even though I already wiped it with DDU.

Any chance of testing audio cables? It is such a mess to figure out what is worth spending extra on and to what extend. Reviews are so often completely based on experience/what the cable seems to do to the sound which is not quite useless but also not far from it. Maybe a project for the lab?

@NovemberOrWhatever

2 жыл бұрын

I think the current belief is that audio cables have no impact on quality and the only requirement is continuity. But I could be wrong

@jadoei13

2 жыл бұрын

@@NovemberOrWhatever Well given it is an analog signal the story could be quite different from digital cables like HDMI/DP cables. I'm sure it would affect the signal, the question is just whether it is worth worrying about.

@Geerice

2 жыл бұрын

@@jadoei13 Due to the analogue nature, testing more than continuity would require very different equipment. Stuff like impedance, reactance, shielding, quality of the contact, etc. are much more important.

@zarmaanful

2 жыл бұрын

Mic level signals are so low that they are basically signal antennas and need good proper shielding. The actual conductor part of connectors having low resistance, gold-plating. A lot of TS/TRS/TRRS connectors themselves go bad, the conducting pins become loose or the cable wires snap-off near solder joints (SOME connectors offer cable compression holder at the price of size). Using the proper gauge cable for the application length and signal-level. Thicker cables "absorb" voltage so using powered speaker cables for Mics is really bad. What i have experienced is that audio industry is based more on marketing than actual facts, seen optical toslink cables having the shell gold-plated for "Better Audio Quality", digital signal over optical link having gold-plated housing? WTF?

@jadoei13

2 жыл бұрын

@@Geerice Yeah I realised that while I was typing it, which is why I added the bit about the lab. At the same time it might be outside of their usual audiance to the point that it isn't worth it. It's just something I recently ran into while trying to find a pair of XLR cables to connect my headphone amp/dac.

I love this type of testing content. Suggestion on how to expand this content in the future, once the lab is up and running: 1. Add a standardized ware & tear test (plug & unplug, bend etc. like a 1000 times with a robotic jig). 2. Impact of interference (power cable run alongside, powerbrick next to it etc.)

Ever since you guys go that piece of equipment I was really looking forward to some of these videos

I can confirm these findings...I use the DP cable that came with my Samsung Odyssey G7 and once in a while for seemingly no reason the signal drops out...and sometimes so badly that the monitor goes to sleep and never detects the signal again without rebooting the monitor. I assumed it was a bug in the monitor or GPU, but this makes me think I need to go try a better cable...

I suspect you didn't check whether pin 20 of those cables is wired or not. It's the one thing that can go very wrong, and the cable I got from Amazon a few years ago had it wired, and it was a cause of problems. One of which was that the PC could fail to power on at all, with a diagnostic LED being lit on the motherboard even with the PSU unplugged! Because yes, pin 20 is for power, and things can go wrong when both ends send power through it, or worse things can happen when one end is not sending power. For a moment, I thought my PC was toast, which I heard is a possible outcome, but thankfully it was not.

@JMMC1005

2 жыл бұрын

Just discovered this on one of mine. Wifi card was always powered (even with PSU off), and graphics card power warning LED would briefly flash on boot. Thankfully it appears no real damage occured.

Keep up the good work guys!! Love the video!

This video was really helpful, I have a Samsung cable that does the exact problem they discussed with re negotiation

I work at one of the top IT-companies in the world and we have the same problem, even if we buy the premium products. So, so many of the cables just don't "really" work.

@marcusborderlands6177

2 жыл бұрын

@@namantherockstar just buy your own mic... Like a job will pay enough for that pretty quick...

The $1000 hdmi cable was the first video I watched of yours, and it was downhill since then for me. Fell in love with tech and glad to see this come full circle.

@ItsProTato

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like downhill is the wrong word to use friend. Lol But I'm glad to see someone finding a new passion in technology ❤️

These videos on cables are an essential watch for anyone thinking about IT. Whether you use it or not it's good background knowledge. I wonder if LTT has ever thought of compiling a "IT essentials" playlist that has videos on topics like this?

That "eye" diagram is lust like the ones I learned to read back in 1988 at Sony Tech school, when I was being trained to work on CD players. The openness of the eye represents a lack of jitter, which is a variation in the timing of data pulses. Jitter is bad, so an open eye is good.

@GlitchyBastard

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, that's an eye opener! /s

We've been using Comprehensive Cables at work for all our multimedia installs, and have had really good luck with them so far. would love to see them tested at some point to see if they really hold up, especially since we're stuck at 1080p for now due to the cost of projectors

@qpSubZeroqp

2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see Binary cables being tested as well

Great timing LTT! Just setup my new Odyssey G7 S28 and could explain the occasional odd issue I've seen since switching the cables from my own hdmi 2.1 to the dp cable Samsung included. Never used dp before but know they can be finnicky, figured the included cable looked decent quality & even says 8k on the tab so it must be good right? Ha, serves me right! Ordered a replacement & going back to the 2.1 cable til then lol. Cheers Linus👍

@TinyTaurenRK

2 жыл бұрын

I had the EXACT same issue with my G7. Replaced cable and it worked wonders!

@forum42087

2 жыл бұрын

I suppose if they are gonna cheapen out anywhere I'd much rather its on the included cable than the panel itself lol.

Bought three new monitors recently and had this exact issue with them turning off. I was guessing that it was coming from the cables and now I am sure about that. Going to change the cables to the ones from your sheet, thanks, LTT team, for doing this!

Love videos like this, so informative!

Awesome video! I have always followed the motto of using the cord included with the device as I know for -sure- it has been tested and qualified with the device. Honestly, if they aren't going to include quality cables they should just not include them at all. It's just e-waste and makes their product look bad.

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2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

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This is exactly what I wanted to see, love you Linus!

This makes me excited for labs! Good job guys

You should totally test PCIE riser cables next. Especially both Gen 3 and 4 to measure signal integrity when running higher speeds such as gen 4 on older Gen 3 cables. Just an idea.

Thank you for this 4:42 Now I know If I used something like an adapter that has output DisplayPort to the input HDMI, This will force and change, could possibly damage the HDMI Input power design that's going into the Monitor or TV set, it may damage it. Think it's just best to keep it simple and just use the Right Port output Design to work only with the Same input Monitor or TV's using the same DisplayPort design.

Thank you so much! I requested this video in your last edition's comments and it is so cool to see that you are reading!!! (and yeahhh I know I know it probably wasn't just my comment but its still awesome!)

I was honestly waiting for this!

Now I'm curious who on the staff tied the CAT5-o-nine tails

@LinusTechTips

2 жыл бұрын

That would be me, Colin. Also, it's actually a CAT6-o-9 tails (nice)

@spdcrzy

2 жыл бұрын

@@LinusTechTips I see you're a Tuxedo Jack fan as well :P

Good info to have, I find it hard to believe that all of your cables from tab one passed though. I must have bad luck then, out of the many display port 1.4 cables I have purchased over the years not one gave me a smooth experience without dropout for my ultrawide display. I was so fed up that I went to display port's website researched a reasonably priced display port certified cable and purchased one of those. Haven't had any more dropout issues since. I'd be curious to see if use over time has an effect?

@felicityc

2 жыл бұрын

The grade doesn't matter, but a non-certified cable will mess you up

Thank you! Now I can be pretty confident my issue is the cable rather than the ports. I'm using one that came with the monitor.

This is actually so helpful! I just bought a new secondary monitor (Upgraded from 1080 165hz to 1440 165hz) and sometimes while gaming on my main it would go black for a second before reconnecting and I was worried it was the monitor but now I know it’s just a poor DP cable that couldn’t keep up with the new monitor.

HDMI cables when they see the delivery address is LMG: *chuckles I’m in danger.*

Could Linus Tech Tips include a cable test for all included cables during future reviews?

Cannot wait for ltt cables and screwdriver dont normally buy merch but seeing how much work linus and the team as put in id be proud knowing im getting a quality product and after the hassles theyve been through with the screwdriver im buying one just to make sure linus can keep going and doing such amazing work

Love this series! ❤️ From HDMI, now DP!

Cool study. I'd like to see LMG hire a statistician or data scientist that can help design these experiments and benchmarks. For example, a lot of your past videos have mentioned two competing products to be within "margin of error" but are you really sure that the two products are not different? In this case, I would have run a positive and negative control to make sure the machine is working. In addition, all tests have a false positive and false negative rate, and it would be helpful to get sensitivity and specificity figures for your data. It's possible that the machine has a high false positive rate for DisplayPort cables, but we have no way of knowing with the current data.

I've always felt the DisplayPort standard must have been inherently flawed in some way that created majorly non-durable cables. I've also had Thunderbolt 2 cables (from apple) fail after not much use or strain which is definitely not the case with any of my USB-C connector thunderbolt 3 cables. I've just ended up going with "VESA Certified" DisplayPort cables in the recent past because I've had the most luck with those.

@sheik124

2 жыл бұрын

Ditto on the "VESA Certified" cables. Used to think having the "|D" mark on the cable automatically meant they were VESA Certified, but I looked up the P/N of the cables that came with my HP monitors, every single one of which gave me drop-outs once MST was involved, and they weren't on their list.

This is rather interesting to me. I work in IT and have fairly consistent issues with monitors dropping signal only to work again on reboot or they will simply flash off and back on. For quite a while, I was chalking it up to the Thunderbolt G2 (HP) docks we were using. I never considered that the issue would be with the OOB display port cable. Dumb, I know.

Great video! I've heard the DP cables that come with Dell monitors are really bad but I've been using the one that came with my S2716DG for five years now without fail.

Recently I bought the silkland DP 1.4 6ft cable from Amazon as the previous 3 ft one that I used was constantly causing flickering issues. I noticed that there was tension on the 3 ft cable and it had those locking tabs at the end of the cable which made me think maybe it's not connecting properly to the GPU. So I bought the silkland cable and everything is going good without any issues. Also the Intel gpus have DP 2?? Damn imagine paying $2k for a 4090 and not getting DP 2 🤡

I have yet to watch (Done). I think this will be a good source for the future monitors since they are now going 4k 144hz at least if not higher (looking at you Neo G8 4k 240hz).

this video really helped me out. thank you

Speaking of Level1Techs, I have one of their DisplayPort 1.4 KVM switches... and that's where I started really having a lot of trouble. I had to get a repeater for one device on the input side, because the total length pushed it past where the cables (even brand-new ones from Amazon) could consistently carry the 4k 144hz signal. The KVM switch isn't to blame, it's just adding to the total cable length. I also just got an optical DisplayPort cable so I can mount the KVM switch under my desk, instead of having it confined to the couple of inches of space between a 1-meter input cable and the 1-meter output cable.

I wonder if the cables that brands include with monitors actually send you cables that support the standard its using

@AsbestosMuffins

2 жыл бұрын

na my hdmi 2.1a monitor came with an hdmi 2.1 cable

@tehevilengineer7939

2 жыл бұрын

@@AsbestosMuffins no your HDMI 2.1a monitor came with a HDMI 2.1a* cable

How'd the iVanky cable not make it into this test? It's the one i've got as it was and still is the amazon choice cable on both the US and Canadian site.

@imnotatimetraveler84yearsa39

2 жыл бұрын

is the iVanky one good? no black screens?

Video cable quality has really been something that hasn’t gotten it’s share of media attention over the last 10 years and manufacturers have used that to their advantage. The thing is, anyone with a PC monitor or TV use them one way or another. I know my mileage has certainly varied with HDMI and DP cables regardless of whether they came with a display, or from a computer store where the packaging consisted mostly of snake oil. Thank you so much for starting this new series. It will hold manufacturers to account, and it may bring tech journalism a bit closer to people who aren’t tech savvy.

Thanx Linus. Much needed this💪

... Not the result I was expecting, given the amount of grief I've had with DisplayPort over the years. Maybe it's time for me to buy new cables.

Praise to science!!

@doglookingatcamera7954

2 жыл бұрын

@UCSZ849OEzrliz6GmSpBo63Q No. I don’t like Fortnite

this is incredibly useful. please do more actual tests to help buyers. fancy audio cables next please!!! and the fancy USBs!!!

I didn't know my recently bought Club3D 2m DP1.4 VESA cable would be futureproof with DP 2.0 pass. Glad to see it tested 👍

So someone at LTT knows how to make a solid flog...

So bottom line is that most DisplayPort cables should work as expected, not unlike HDMI

@naamadossantossilva4736

2 жыл бұрын

Correct,and that is another reason DP is better.

@timothygibney159

2 жыл бұрын

Well most people use the cables included in the box with their monitors which all failed. I bought a Dell gaming monitor and at 10 bits 165 Hz it occasionally flickers off. Now I know why

Love the spreadsheets! Just wish you would also center the cells vertically

Yes! It's been over a month waiting for DisplayPort testing!

Had an issue recently running 2 monitors (side with HDMI main with DP) where signal on the main would cut out for a couple seconds, but only at 144hz ddespite being a brand new cable and everything being compatible. Turns out VESA certified cables are wired a little different than non certified where the #20 pin acts as an extra power wire on VESA certified cables, so incase anyone running into that issue check your cable

@OpDieFietsNL

2 жыл бұрын

Wait so, you fixed it by getting a non-certified cable?

@123sleepygamer

2 жыл бұрын

Uhm, no, it should be the opposite. You should always buy VESA certified cables to avoid issues, that's what I've gleamed from this and other people's reports. I think you have your info backwards. NON VESA can have the power pin wired.

Please keep doing this!!!! If you can do in depth testing on audio cables, you WILL make waves. Specifically RCAs and speaker cables. It's insane how many wild varieties of just simple speaker cable have been made. There are so many deceptive overstatements to justify absurd prices, and I think the audiophile community is suffering for it. Help us out, LTT!

@dekjet

2 жыл бұрын

There is no specification for a analog cables to test for. Analog stuff is inherently messy and gets complicated quickly. Especially speaker cables that carry high current over long distances (which should be avoided).

All these display port cables and bags on the floor give me flash backs of office setup and refresh projects.

Definitely helpful, appreciate the verification process 🙏