I Sold My Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711!!! WHAT?!
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The Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711 is a grail watch for many. It was a grail watch for me. The 5711 is nearly impossible to get at retail and about two years ago, I got VERY lucky when I got a call from my local AD that he had a blue dial Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711 and it was mind if I wanted it. If you've seen my watch collection video, you've heard this whole story--which, if you haven't, I recount here (good on a second listen too!)--but what you hadn't known until today is that I did in, fact, sell my Patek Philippe 5711. Why did sell it? How much did I sell it for? It's a great story. Enjoy!
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*important part of the story that wasn't in... he got the call the morning after I bought him his Cartier Tank (40th bday/wedding gift). We went to the store, and I had him try it on to make sure he liked it before I had it engraved. AND THEN..... he didn't even have it yet and he cheated on it.
@nukie404
3 жыл бұрын
Men! Haha j/k, thanks for the great extra! - Han
@littleredcurious5044
3 жыл бұрын
imagine that
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@wowwee0
3 жыл бұрын
The real story is in the comments
“ You never really own a Patek... you sell to the next guy for a Massive profit! ” Well played Brian.
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
LOL. Cheers!
@RexofCaledonia
3 жыл бұрын
Nice twist to the Patek motto. So funny!
@andreshultz8638
3 жыл бұрын
If you can sell it
@marcb92vjacques26
3 жыл бұрын
"you never really own a patek ... it's for your children and next generation " not to make massive profit , i think so actually
So you basically got paid, wearing this watch for a few years.
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
LOL. That's one way to look at it!
@andreshultz8638
3 жыл бұрын
The catch is will people pay $100.000 for used steel watch?
@andreshultz8638
3 жыл бұрын
@iRena Dubrovna yes steel for $100,000 is just out of my league. I can get gold pieces with sprinkle of diamonds with higher horological movement swiss made , with better brand ambassador for less price. "Daytona white gold with diamonds" ; "Vacheron Overseas" Vacheron Constantin Overseas Chronograph 40mm Watch ICED w/22ct Genuine Diamonds; "Piaget Polo" Piaget Polo S 42MM Iced out 22.00ct Genuine Diamondsand more.
I remember you telling in the collection video, how you've told to a dealer "BTW, ... I'm not going to buy it and flip it" 😂👍
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
I could have and certainly had the opportunity to like the very next day for a very healthy profit. That's not what happened here as you can tell from the video.
@boris7540
4 жыл бұрын
@@hespokestyle still it's hilarious 😁
@Nefville
3 жыл бұрын
He absolutely did not flip it. That would be selling it within a few weeks of buying it for the money alone and he had different motivations to boot.
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
@@Nefville Exactly. Thank you.
@hense123
3 жыл бұрын
@@hespokestyle It's absolutely what happened here. You just waited for the best moment to max out on profit! They will never sell you a Patek again!!
Brian , the way you shared this information without hiding anything made me a fan of you.
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@derosa1989
4 жыл бұрын
totally agree. I like that Brian is not about being rich and having huge disposable income, but appreciating quality things in ways that I don't think people with limitless money even understand.
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
derosa1989 cheers.
@DicitAmos
3 жыл бұрын
Coudn't agree more. This video proofs Brian to be a very cool and down to Earth guy.
@lukethomas6482
3 жыл бұрын
Agree 👌 subscribed
This video completely sums up why I love this channel. You do not brag, nor do you boast, you inform. More so than that, you inform with a real down-to-Earth tone and that is something a lot of watch channels do not. I’m very happy for you, enjoy the profit and the rewards of your labour, best wishes from the UK!
Wow! Simply amazing. I love this whole story. The fact that you weren’t a huge spender at the AD and got it for retail is amazing in itself. You wore the watch and enjoyed it, so that’s all you can asked for...but to may a huge profit too! Hats off to you sir! I would have done the same.
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the comment and support.
5 Months later: Patek is rumoured to be discontinuing the 5711 and dealer to dealer hype price on these is in the $120K range.......insane. Brian, I don't know that I could have waited as long as you did to sell that watch. As soon as I saw it go past 20K above retail I would have played it safe and sold it. These numbers are just nuts for a SS sports watch.
This has been a fun story to follow. Glad you got to experience what it's like having a lot of people's version of a grail watch. And in the end, everybody won. Congrats.
My first reaction was like the title "what?!" but I would have done the exact same thing. It's fantastic that it was just as worth buying as it was selling...congrats on that deal, Brian!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Demetrios. Always appreciate the comment.
Brian- this update brought me joy! Buying and selling for all the right reasons with no remorse whatsoever- such a rarity in the world of a watch enthusiast. Looking forward to your next acquisition!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Me too! Thanks for the comment, Matthew!
I consigned my 5711/1A to an auction house recently then a week later PP announced they are discontinuing this model....can't wait to see what the hammer price is.
Good for you! You're a hero in the watch enthusiast community. You took a leap at the crazy high retail price, enjoyed it, and definitely came out on top at the end with the profit. Congrats on all levels.
Jesus Christ. You can't even get those returns in the market. Good job, Brian.
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
I know it was completely insane.
@davidkaplan5517
3 жыл бұрын
Of course you can..... Tesla got me more than for less money in a year and it’s available to anybody to purchase and you don’t need to find a buyer.
You made me smile, Brian... This is what my wife expects me to do with my collection one day ;) You pulled the trigger at the right time, and that time was when you felt like it was time to see it go... great story. Cheers!
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Laurent! Thanks so much for the comment. And hope you are well.
Thanks for the in depth walkthrough of your experience. This is the type of content I’ve subbed for!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear it!
I just learned the 5711 (Blue dial) was discontinued and are selling at around 100k :(
"I feel like if you don't wear your watches, regardless of the price, I think that's the wrong approach"
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Cheers, Yoni. Thank you for "getting it"--in many ways.
Looking forward to see you updated state of the collection Brian! I can totally understand the "uncomfortable" feeling of wearing too pricy watches(not to mention the risk), I'd even say these crazy prices spoil the pleasure of considering nice brands. In the 70's 80's 90's this problem wasn't there...but that's the new world!!! congrats!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Coming up next month. Stay tuned!
Great video! Truly love and appreciate you gave hard numbers. Not done enough to help people through this watch world, so helps a lot of people out. Really Appreciated!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
You got it!
Congrats Brian! Great decision. Along with the other factors you mentioned, not having the "sentimental connection" with that watch was key and did make the decision easier! I have a vintage Hamilton my father gave me before he passed away and I would never ever sell it for any price. Again, congratulations!
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Albert. Thanks so much for chiming in.
I don't know but I just feel impressed and inspired by your story all around The Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711. I really appreciate your content, Mr. Brian. I am now just almost finishing my postgraduate degree and looking for a job in management consulting. I'm gonna leave my comment here and see how long I can get one, and please keep doing your great job. We are all here to support you no matter what! You're so humble and genuine, I very much hope that I can have a picture with you one day!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
That's so kind of you, Duy. I'm happy to deliver to you. I wish you all the best!
@shinichikudou4536
3 жыл бұрын
Any progress?
great video. Love the honesty and genuineness that is rare on most social media platforms. I am of the opinion that when. you put good into the universe, good comes back 10 fold. Congrats on enjoying it for 2 years and congrats on the profit you derived. Many blessings.
WOW--so interesting. This feels like the turning point some of us have been predicting for awhile. Congrats--and thanks for sharing Brian.
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
JIM! I sensed a bubble and the biggest thing was that I did not have a sentimental attachment to the watch.
@user-xt2kf3cg3n
3 жыл бұрын
Sensed wrong over 100k now
Well owning a watch and selling it once you want is natural. In this case it happens to be a hot model with a nice profit, good for you! :). Congrats on the sale and looking forward to the next acquisitions and future videos!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! We've got a collection update in the works for next month.
@SwissWatchGang
4 жыл бұрын
@@hespokestyle Looking forward to it!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
@@SwissWatchGang Stay tuned!
I appreciate that you buy items for your own personal pleasure and not just to say " hey IV got a 68k watch and a bespoke suit on I'm better than you" which is what I fear too many people do in this day and age. Congrats on the sell. Looking forward to more watch videos in the future!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that, Joey. Updated collection video coming next month.
This is why I follow. Great story and great content. More story’s like this would be great!
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you liked this approach!
And now imagine you had sold it only last week. It would have been an extra 20-30k USD...
@tomanderson2487
2 жыл бұрын
Now +100k
Appreciate the transparency on the numbers. I too wear all of my watches and don't buy them as investments, but I'd also have let it go for that price!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for chiming in, Dustin.
Great video, great approach, you are really a very special individual and I think your channel is really the only one worth while watching in this category. Thanks again and may your wealth increase more and more!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for your support. It means a lot.
What a story! And you presented it so interestingly, even though I'm not really into watches. ;) By the way, I usually don't like editing where every few seconds, there's a shutterstock picture shown that doesn't fit into the otherwise very high production value of, say, your videos, Brian. But gotta say, the one at 3:07 was so clever. With the prices skyrocketing..!
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
You always come off as so sincere and cool. Congratulations on the money and I can't wait until the next watch update.
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the comment and support.
I loved the honesty with the amount of money, very rare in a place like KZread!
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
What else would you expect here?!
Wow congrats homie, I'm with you that you made the right decision. Also really enjoyed your philosophy on wearing and enjoying what you have.
I like the honesty around why you decided to sell. Thank you for sharing.
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome.
I would definitely sell it too, at the end of the day, it is just A watch not a kidney. I remember how excited I was when I bought my first “luxury” watch which was Rolex Sub. The more watch I get, the less excitement I get when I buy another watch. So yeah If I only had 1 watch I’d never sell the nautilus but at the stage of your collection, I would not miss it
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Well said, Tung. Appreciate the comment!
@laurentcosson3360
4 жыл бұрын
Isn't a kidney less expensive? ;)
@LlyleHunter
3 жыл бұрын
@@laurentcosson3360 😂😂😂
I came running as soon as I saw the title! WHAAT?! is the correct response because you seemed so happy whenever you mentioned it on your older videos! Anyway I also came across another video that talked about watches taking on different connotations and people falling out of love with it due to that: that particular person had a Kermit that he stopped wearing because of the increased price. Whatever was the reason you decided to let the watch go, I'm sure it was the right one as you sound happy to share this story just as much. I would say money aside but those figures are not something one can simply ignore! Must have been such a rush, those few hours selling it lol. I do think the Datograph feels more like your signature watch than the 5711 by the way :) - Han
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Han! Yes, ALS definitely has a special resonance with me.
@nukie404
4 жыл бұрын
@@hespokestyle I think it's the attention to detail, looking luxurious and on point even if people can't tell straight away, and staying innovative without abandoning traditions that I see the similarities in! - Han
Congratulations! Jesse Livermore would be proud of you. I always love it when someone finally understands the concept of 'the greater fool theory' and puts it into practice instead of becoming a 'greater fool' like so many watch collectors today. Bravo!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Cheers. Thanks so much for chiming in!
That’s awesome, thanks for the great story! This shows that passion does leads to success, even if it’s buying a watch
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Really happy you enjoyed the story.
Good on ya Brian! Excellent sale! Congratulations!! What a story!! 👌
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Christian! Really glad you enjoyed the story.
Awesome !! I just let go my lovely girl the ROLEX SUBMARINER “HULK” 116610LV . For 30k roughly 15k over market. I was in downtown philly. Gentlemen walked to me and my wife . Point to my wrist and said how much ? The rest is history. Congratulations on the sell .
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Crazy! Thanks for the support and comment.
@jordaneverettross
3 жыл бұрын
someone paid you 30k for a hulk... they've more $ than sense
@antonmothes3160
3 жыл бұрын
@@jordaneverettross could have got the 'Smurf' blue Submariner in white gold!
I was not expecting that number LOL Insanity! Congrats on the sale HSS! Hope your next piece is another heavy hitter for us viewers haha. Can't wait to see what's in store for you next!!!
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned! And thanks!
That’s an amazing turnaround, well done.
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the comment.
Great story and congrats! I am not really interested in the models that require playing the AD game with waiting lists and so on, but this seems like a best case scenario in every way. You're a lucky man!
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
I WAS really lucky.
I still can’t wrap my head around how a steel sports watch commands that much, but congrats on a killer profit!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks. I know, it's crazy.
@Psykel
4 жыл бұрын
Supply and demand.
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
@@Psykel Totally. But do you think PP is deliberately holding back availability?
@Psykel
4 жыл бұрын
He Spoke Style Sort of, maybe? I doubt they pump out watches and limits the supply like Rolex, but they might make a limited amount of watches to sort of hype it. I’m not too knowledgable when it comes to moden watches, as I’m a vintage collector.
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
@@Psykel Yeah, I don't know enough to speculate either.
Good move Brian, and congratulations on the sale. When these time pieces get that out of control, ie people wanting to buy it right off your wrist, from a personal sanity standpoint IMHO it is better to let it go. Now you have piece of mind, not to mention some nice (stylish?) home improvements. 👍⌚💪
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah! We love our new deck!
I'm a student now, but I'll get back to you in a decade or so after I've bought a watch like this myself. Inspiring video.
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
I wish you all the best! Thanks so much for the comment and support.
Good call. Get that yellow gold AP Royal Oak Jumbo you've been chasing!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Haha. A 4100ba is still on the list.
Wow hell of a deal you made there! Congratulations, Brian!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Joe!
Thanks for the vid Brian. Great earnings on the watch.
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome, Ron!
Excellent review and journey
Can’t wait for that updated collection vid
Hey Brian from Moscow. First of all congratulations on that watch deal. It's amazing. For the second i wanna thank you for your style videos. They are very useful. Good luck.)
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Really appreciate the support.
I am proud of you for letting the watch go. It was an achievement piece, and you turned a $40k+ profit in 2 years. You got to enjoy and experience the watch and make money from it. That is the dream. Now you are free to buy more watches and experience even more. I have been following your site for a while, as I noticed that so many of your photos were in DC and Baltimore (and I lived in DC). Congrats Brian! Keep up the good work.
thanks of you because all your excellent posts and your video
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome. Appreciate the support.
Amazing Brian! congratulations!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
Congtatulations. Always a great video. Appreciate it...take care and stay healthy
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! Same to you.
Congrats Brian. I honestly half expected you to reveal a much higher number, but that's a nice profit nonetheless. Great tip on the app as well. I'm going to add my watch and see what happens.
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
Thank you kindly for sharing this amazing crazy story. And yes watches are made to be worn, not to be put in a little box. They are pieces of art but the kind that should be used. The only watch I am hesitant to use is my grandfathers old wrist watch and pocket watch (that I do think belonged to his brother or uncle). Especially the wrist watch that he was wearing every day. But whenever I wear it for me it's very special.
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
That's what matters most. Thanks for sharing that, Rasmus.
Nice story and thanks for sharing!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Chris!
You definitely did the correct move Brian. All 3 reasons quite reasonable and enough to sell it But even more congrats involving what u said about keeping in bags/wearing and enjoying your watches. Very well said 👏
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and support.
Really glad you were honest on the pricing. Congrats thats a huge profit!!!!!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn’t I be?!
Great channel by the way, keep up the great work
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks, Joseph! Means a lot.
Very interesting, thanks for the video and the real sale price disclosure. I remember watching the vid of how you bought it, and can't say I'm too surprised that you cashed it in. It's a stupid amount of money for a current model steel watch with a movement that doesn't even hack!
Great timing, Brian!
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Eric! I can only hope to be so lucky in the future.
Smart decision, I think that some of the appeal of collecting watches is moving some around after you enjoyed them so others can too and so you can enjoy some others. Im truly curious what you'll be adding next to your collection and Im motivated to work hard so I can buy your Datograph when you decide to sell it!
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Oh, the Dato isn't going anywhere! Thanks for the comment!
As I'm reading this the price now is $120,000 on eBay you should have kept it man!
@albundy3929
Жыл бұрын
fell better? sounds like you don't anythinng of value nor have any investments.
i literally yelled out loud "holy shit" when you said the sale price. Thats awesome.
Congrats and what an impressive sale!! I would have done the same... although I cannot make myself part with the Hulk and Batman even though I got them discounted and they go for a good amount over retail (far from 5711 crazy of course 😄). If I sell em I can never get them back for the money I got em for!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for chiming in.
Respect on the smart financial decision. I appreciate the sentiments on why you thought it was a good idea.
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Pete. Appreciate the comment.
It’s your watch and sometimes money is needed elsewhere. Did a similar thing and was fine with it. Interesting story good you did it, prices will not stay up like that forever 🙏🏻
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Thanks so much for the comment and support.
Congrats brother that was a great investment! You hit the nail on the head by saying to wear your watches and enjoy them. So what’s that next watch for you?!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Stay tuned! Updated watch collection video coming next month.
hi Brian, Will you use the fund to buy something else? Like a Lange 1
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
No. Everything was for the family.
Do I see "A Gentleman in Moscow" by Amor Towles in the background there? If so, I just bought the book a week ago but havent gotten around to reading yet. Greetings from Germany!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Good eye!
When I saw the title, I was like NO! And, at the end of the video, I was like you did an awesome job, Brian. Congratulations! Next, AP Royal Oak in gold dial? A guy got a dream, right?
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could take you on a journey!
Great story and thank you for sharing it. I totally get it when you say sometimes you just don't miss a watch. It is simple - because it's just not good enough as the watch it looks like. Nowadays lots of watches (needless to say which ones) are just way above what they should cost. It is the marketing hype caused it, not the watch itself. Just take the 5711 for example, if it is really a that good watch, why there were not so many people buy it 3-4 years ago when you can walk in a Patek AD and get a decent discount? now all of a sudden everybody is exaggerating what a wonderful watch it is. It is interesting to see how the Patek 5131 has dropped significant in value (like $40-50k) in 3 years and all these Nautilus increased their value by a similar amount. I say it is a very smart move, because it was way less people buying the 5131 ($150k market value in 2016) but now way more will try to buy the 5711. Patek obviously learned from from a very good teacher on how to hype the steel sports models. You know who I'm talking about.
Wow that’s amazing!! Good job mate
instantly became a fan of how you told the actual numbers and not just another clickbait (like what most youtubers do)..
Well done Brian ! Great story
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it, Shaheen!
I think it is interesting that you viewed the watch differently given its high price. I feel that way with Rolex sometimes, as much as I appreciate the brand. At least you can say you enjoyed experiencing the watch and got a good return in the process.
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Thanks for chiming in, Roy.
Great Brian, well done, congratulations..!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Dirk!
Well done mate. Love the site as well. Could you do a video on some online stores that you'd recommend? That would help greatly.
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
What specifically are you looking for?
Great video.. man what a rollercoaster 😂 think you did the right thing!
Hey Brian, can't wait, please post your Watch update ASAP. Thanks in advance.
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned!
You did well, great return. There is so much you can do with the difference that is much better than any simple steel sports watch. It has become a (rich) plebs watch over time. Well fitting to a designer tracksuit and solarium tanned skin.
You got to enjoy an AMAZING watch and add an interesting story to your sartorial journey! Not to mention a great profit. Really cool!
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
That's what it's all about!
Im at GMC dealership in waiting room. And this video is playing on tv as im typing this. Im like wow He Made it big!! Nice profit. Everybody in waiting room is tuned in to your story lol Cant wait to get my grey flannel suit from you
Thinking of another similar luxury sports watch? Anyway, I remember in your last collection video that you wanted a Lange 1 in pink gold. I say go for it! I'd love to see how you'd style it with clothes!
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely still want that Lange 1!
Stunned. That’s mind boggling. I would have quickly parted with the watch too.
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
I wasn't planning on it.
Really happy for you. Great Job👌😇
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
thanks so much, Alamin!
Now we need to have a collection update! Let’s see what you’ve added and dropped overall.
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Coming up next month!
Great Video Mr Sacawa, Super Story!
great video as always 💗 Brain; we want updated watch collection video.
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
In the works for next month!
@ziarlyden
4 жыл бұрын
can't wait. XD
Congratulations on everything. Best of wishes.
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks, Bruce.
Congratulations. I think you deserve what you get for the watch. You have lived your passion and cultivated your connoissuership, and you simply haven't realized that...
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Cheers.
Amazing video!
Makes total sense. Respect your thought process and life priorities! I LOVE my favorite watches - and one in particular - but they don’t own me.
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Well, which watch is it?!
@evenstephen2000
3 жыл бұрын
Ha! My Rolex Sub “Hulk”. I’m an outdoor adventurer and the stunning green is symbolic and special!
Good LORD Brian. That's a hell of a turnaround, and good call to pay off debts with that.
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Cheers.
Incredible, well done sir !
@hespokestyle
3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
First I thought why sell a perfect grail watch. But after watching the video, I think it’s justified 👍 in your case, plus you can buy another watch even after the renovations ;)
@hespokestyle
4 жыл бұрын
LOL. Thanks for chiming in!