Enhance in A- a little wild

@Steevvee

20 күн бұрын

Yeah it has crazy potential. Which is what i think hes going off with this pick. Im at 2600 rating and i barely see any of them but when i do they oneshot people very quickly.

Enh over SV is a bit ridiculous 🤣

yo Ven, any new builds for arcane sense reset of beta ?

Are you gonna be doing separate tier list or coverage for rated BGB next season?

I'm new to PvP but the balance has felt super good. Even DH is reasonable after the last nerfs. I think Ret is still a little spicy.

@Memoop-iz6vk

17 күн бұрын

Let ret be spicy they've been mediocre this xpac I'm glad they are letting them shine a bit and I don't even play one

@enzoshink7597

9 күн бұрын

Fdk in f tier sice wrath lol...

@kaiser2261

7 күн бұрын

@@Memoop-iz6vk lol except for that 2-3 week period in szn 1 where they became the most OP spec possibly of all time

Would lovvveeeee to see you do a 0 to hero challenge on Enhancement. You will drop it a few tiers.

@frostgodx

18 күн бұрын

💯 😂

Happy birthday!

Bro, my ocd jumped insanely high when you didn’t put brewmaster under the tanks 😂❤

Shadow Play is absolutely CRACKED..............................the rest is fine

@Rebella1337

20 күн бұрын

lol yea.. I think so too.

@TheBenytoxelay

19 күн бұрын

and no skill they play triangle 40 yard take 0 risk and spam cc and wait for mana they dont even try to kill they just wait until they win

Assa is op if you’re not playing any of its hard counters but it’s likely that you are… dark iron dwarf/dwarf/dragons/any rets can rip off all your dots, especially dragons make it so you can’t use deathmark

@DH-ht9pl

19 күн бұрын

Cross cc

Him looking at Survival in Ranged was so fcking funny to see

next up: a tier list for DF tier lists

@drewwil891

17 күн бұрын

Oh forsure lol

Here is the thing though, as a healer the difference between B and A means that you can pretty much never get higher than 3-3 in SS. I play MW Monk and so many games I get put up against priest or evoker healers then I just know its gonna be a 3-3 best case scenario. And that is if I outplay them... I play in 1900s rating atm and it is brutal to try and out heal the meta healers. It feels like swimming against the current.

we need a tier list for old man wrists (aka fewest buttons)

@frostgodx

18 күн бұрын

Dh Fury BM Devastation FDK There you go ✅

@joshr9703

18 күн бұрын

@@frostgodx thx are there any healers do u think

@Memoop-iz6vk

17 күн бұрын

​@@joshr9703prob disc priest easiest/shaman being the hardest with button count

Bro in which world is enhancement Shaman A tier? Its C tier with frost dk

@viberaider6852

21 күн бұрын

Id say btier, but yeah not with ww for sure

@Memoop-iz6vk

17 күн бұрын

The dude don't know what he's talking about sometimes on these tier lists enhancement/ feral is b tier they are the easiest thing to kill in the game right now but do good dmg

I've only played retribution nearly constantly since the end of BFA but I don't know how the hell it's not C tier. Maybe it is just C tier with me at the helm. As soon as I use BoP or Bubble it is removed early and with the only two defensives not blocked by Forbearance active I just flop. I can try to do burst, get cced, clear it, try to burst, get CCed immediately, by then I'm half health and CCed so I use a strong defensive and just die in the next few seconds whether bubble or BoP is removed early or not. With BiS gear and a 3 second TTK I can't get much done before I'm dead. I'm usually the kill target so Blessing of Spellwarding won't save me while I die during fear, Blessing of Sacrificing my teammates won't save me because I'm the kill target. If I cleanse my healers CC with Sanctuary, they just get cc locked again. I can't justify all of the Retribution nerfs that came through.

Maybe its just me in EU but I feel like as ele sham I dont get trained all that much, 99% of your damage is instant cast so they dont stop anything by training you, you just drag them behind a pillar, thunderstorm+static+cap and can easily punish over extended melees out of LoS from their healer. Your passive tankiness from high armor, earth shield etc and the fact you rarely ever need to cast make you a not very appealing target in most cases though depends what your team mate is. As long as you play with a team mate thats an even better target than you, or any caster that you cant allow to just free cast your golden.

@MrZozotier

20 күн бұрын

What is you're rating ? If you are 2300+ give me you're spec plz (link)

@therockontheshelf

20 күн бұрын

@@MrZozotier oh I'm way lower than that lol only came back a few weeks ago and don't get much time to play, just copied the 3s build thr top players on Murlock in were using, between normal procs, haste from PW splintered elements and windbreaker lava resurgence giving lava surge after every earth shock to fill in gaps between natural procs you have solid consistent damage without ever hard casting. Only hard casts are hex and ice fury rly

@MrZozotier

20 күн бұрын

@@therockontheshelf i see ty alot bud

I noticed later into the video you missed out in comoaring your evaluation with ladder data and it was only your and the chats opinion

Me as a ret pal and fire mage main for TWW: i see this as an absolute win

@Johnny-yx2qx

21 күн бұрын

Okay sheep

@Rheticle

21 күн бұрын

Except ret on beta right now might actually be the worst spec in the game at the moment. Obviously beta means nothing but just be prepared for another BFA type of expansion where ret is mid

@derrickhead

14 күн бұрын

ret is mid af its just alot of wanna bees playing it

I feel like if you have to differentiate between A and A-, then everything in A- is just upper B...

I agree too dragonflight is a well balanced expansion for pvp .

UDK is the most represented spec in top100 of both solo shuffle (EU and US). Its definitly deserve to be in S tier.

Very balanced "splay"

why is no augmentation listed?

@Agonius

20 күн бұрын

POV: You didn't watch the video and just skipped to the end

Fury War and Assa Rogue are in same tier is just insane

@Steevvee

20 күн бұрын

they arent

@pharmztko

20 күн бұрын

Bro lay off the weed your brain is rotting

I am so over getting the balanced feeling one season out of an expansion

@viberaider6852

21 күн бұрын

DF has felt very balanced as a whole expansion outside of the op ret rework s1 and dhs early in s4

There's like 3 total SPs in r1 range in the world in 3s

have to agree on this expansion being most balanced ever. i have every class, played every spec. 1800 on all toons season 4 and 2100 on resto shaman. im no glad or r1, but i know my fair share of game.

@Asmodeius

21 күн бұрын

would swap resto druid and shamans. resto druids get owned by long games and tools a bit lacking. resto shaman build mastery, with all the tool kit (if you can handle the bloat) is so much more superior. you underestimate resto shamans by a ton.

@Asmodeius

21 күн бұрын

on rogues topic. rogues overall not having a great season. i donno what blizzard did with them, but it's nearly impossible to crank out any damage as rogue, meanwhile they are squishy as they should be. no matter which spec you play, your sustain damage is very, very mediocre. you never see numbers close to mage, dh, ret pal, like never, and rogues are supposedly killers. their entire game play revolves around making a good set up and cc. now to the good set up thing. rogue set ups come around about once every 2 minutes. so in solo shuffle in 1 round you can make a move 2 times a game, if you fail on 2nd move, and did not secure a kill, your team will lose 90% of the time, unless you're carried by some super damage dealing dps. i barely got to 1800 on assassin rogue. no mater what i did, i could never crank out any reasonable damage. all rogues i've encountered this season lost nearly all games. there would be one rogue, once in a blue moon, who would carry entire lobby and generally execute the set up with extreme precision every round. so unless you can do that, as a rogue, you're wasted slot on a team. again, in SS you have 2 shots to win a round, if you fk up, it's 90% a loss. all the other time outside of set ups, you just run around, doing pretty much nothing, throwing cc here and there. in reality might not even dps cause, that dps barely adds to anything.

@Asmodeius

21 күн бұрын

s tier range dps. devastation evoker and moonkin.

@maagi1

20 күн бұрын

2100 is currently super low, so you should agree with ven lmao

@Asmodeius

20 күн бұрын

@@maagi1 exactly why i disagree. because it does not portray reality for 90% of player base. the list should take into consideration 51% of player base to be true. if 90% cant play rogue , rogue cant be S tier simply because pikaboo and 2 others can do it. like i agree with ret placement, because 51% if not more can do well with the spec. meanwhile enhancement shaman should be some where in D, because only 2% can play it.

I love affliction in 2s but not 3s lol

It is a well balanced game ATM. I got every class to at least 1800 for the Tmogs

@gorack12

20 күн бұрын

Which mogs the old r14?

@maagi1

20 күн бұрын

1800 is starting mmr atm lmao

Dev evoker, assassin and marks still broken :(

as someone who heals a ret in 3s at 2500 ret is solid C tier

@AbrahamLincoln_

20 күн бұрын

"Solid C" hahhaha

Frost DK needs death strike nerfs reverted badly to feel sustainable enough to grind down opponents.

As an outlaw rogue main. I feel like im the only one playing it lol

@chrisofblades5167

20 күн бұрын

I feel the same about Sub rogue. I got to 2200 in stupid shuffle and not one sub rogue other than me.

@maagi1

20 күн бұрын

@@chrisofblades5167 It's rare to get same spec you are playing in the same lobby

@chrisofblades5167

19 күн бұрын

Nah, I can play whatever is meta and que up with two or three same specs

@merkkenem

19 күн бұрын

​@@chrisofblades5167 i rarely even get matched against a rogue in solo but when I do its assassin 4 real. Even in raids or open BGs rogue seem to not be played at least now in season 4

@maagi1

19 күн бұрын

@@chrisofblades5167 If there are no other specs available then you get matched with same spec sometimes, and if you play meta, then ofc that will be the case. Sub and outlaw rogue are more rare, so you should get faster que and not match with same spec.

Im not a good player but Resto Shaman surprised me a little Feels like they are fighting with holy pala who has the lowest output, but resto shaman makes up for it with all the utility and disruption. But that's hard for not so good players to do, at 2k rating in SS it definitely feels a lot weaker than Disci

@Steevvee

20 күн бұрын

nah resto shaman has alot of cc, if used correctly and people stay in totem range its very strong.

Time for Someone of your caliber to take Tank Solo Shuffle queues to the next level.

survival is in melee you looking at range. its there on column to the left lol

Ret is A tier Flash of light 70k Word of Glory holy spender/mana 80k, all other hybrids got buffs to healing, most non hybrids heal/shield more Two major defensives can be dispelled, broken or stolen “Freedom” dispelled or stolen leading to permanent snares regardless of range not being able to move makes it hard to LoS damage. Outdated mechanic with forbearance Gutted PvP talents Melee that requires half their cc if chosen to be casted A tier is where they belong because during the first two minutes of a game if they aren’t the main kill target they can carry a lobby but if they are the KT they fall off a bit in the first two minutes with a steep drop off after that. Side note playing ret last night against dk frost mage assa rogue I was the KT 4 rounds with two of those having the assa rogue on my team. One match I couldn’t make it around the corner with the spam of snares grips etc

@DH-ht9pl

19 күн бұрын

Ret is s tier

BRO PUT FIRE BELOW ARMS XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

No way warrior is same tier as dk or NA is just a diff game in eu on high cr warrior feels like c tier

i hate that so many people play ret now because it sugar coats our problems because its popular now i remember back in burning crusade and wrath and stuff nobody respected us especially in pve

Lmao at whoever said all casters are S tier 😂

The A- section was so stupid hahahaha

i play rd 1950 , is good actualy but not s tier for me evo is for sure the best , clause follow by sham , i want to put rd in a tier with priest maybe priest better than rd

As a brand new arena player (never played before this season), the specs I hate to see across from me are unholy and affliction.

@fofaodacarretafuracao9963

21 күн бұрын

For me i Hate so much warlock

@everbard3071

21 күн бұрын

@@fofaodacarretafuracao9963 yes, they feel very strong

BESDIES Tanks game feels more balanced as it has in a long time

Idk why you say holy priest is a teir lol they die so fast and so easy

Been a feral main since cata lol

There is no balance. 😂😂

Feral is almost s lol

saying an assa rogue is very durable is a wild take but ok

Its pretty sad how long holy pally has been bad

Arms is honestly probably a C or D tier spec. Fury is better in every way and I feel like no good warrior is even playing Arms.

DH have ruined the entire expansion

@tmking90

14 күн бұрын

Ya was so broken at the start just now getting to not be broken af

Balanced or not the game is just not fun

@effortlessGFX

20 күн бұрын

*In your opinion, which you are entitled to.

@ghanthony72

12 күн бұрын

I've been having a blast in df

@steadychill5775

9 күн бұрын

Love WoW it's been a part of me for 20 years

You used to produce quality content and now you just post bogus tier lists that aren't even accurate lol. Cmon bro.

@maagi1

20 күн бұрын

What isn't accurate in this tier list?

Aug evoker is S++

First🎉 Now wish me happy birthday

@nickgman3592

21 күн бұрын

Happy birthday

so annoying when pvp dont rank the tanks, what reason is there for that, just makes tank mains not get any info off ur vid

Agree with all of it, except Enhance is utterly trash. It's such a confused spec. It's caught in the middle of being a damage dealer and a support class and excels at neither of those roles. It's also got way too many buttons that ultimately do nothing.

Arms at A tier is diabolical. As a main arms. Fury>Arms atm. Arms should be B. I have almost never lose to an Arms. no matter what comp I play

@Handsomebastard69

20 күн бұрын

Cause there's a lot of dogshit arms warriors, arms is a solid spec with high utility that most of the playerbase don't utilise properly

@Steevvee

20 күн бұрын

this is why you arent making the tier lists cause Arms is doing better then fury is every single bracket in pvp.

One of the most balanced.... false.... there are 4 rogues in the top 10 on the 3v3 us leader board 40% of the top 10 are rogue and only 1 caster.... and its a ill give you one guess what class it is... mage obviously......... season 1 they tried to give me a 40% buff to my base spells as an aff lock with the tier set while others like monk got 5% buffs with tier..... wow balance is soo unbelievably bad..... i was going to watch but then one min in you start lieing sooo im out gl...... like we all just say the IZN video on shamans defense vs mage defense....

BM at a B is crazy. BM is one of the main classes I feel that dominate arenas

BM is so boring

Lol a nothing is bad tierlist. Mw is the worst healer in shuffle and 3s. Hpal is about as bad but has more comps. Sad I fall for the usual tierlist clickbait. Damn you youtube.

when you have to keep remaking the same video because your content is garbage and wow pvp is dead, 9-5 is coming soon lil bro

Really bad flow of the video imo. It’s soo dragged out 😢

@everbard3071

21 күн бұрын

It’s from his stream. He’s chatting with his viewers.

@mpark295

20 күн бұрын

Its wow df season 4. What do ppl expect 🤣

@jeeshhseej9347

20 күн бұрын

Its what we watch for Ven is rifting

@dustinfidalgo915

15 күн бұрын

TikTok brain

Havoc is definitely not A tier. Its been whined and cried and nerfed into the ground. Everyone blamed havoc dh for their skill gap and its kinda bs.

@apierson244

21 күн бұрын

LOL DH is insane

@Primal_Echo

21 күн бұрын

@@apierson244 ur definitely one of the crybabies that neutered it. 🙄

@apierson244

20 күн бұрын

@Primal_Echo you're probably a hard stuck 1800 DH LOL "I'm bad cause blizzard nerfed my class" LOL

@Primal_Echo

20 күн бұрын

@@apierson244 wish I could send pics on here. 2340 right now. But that's not the point. The point is that it's people like you who are the hard stuck 1800s who blame DH for "being OP" when really it's just your lack of skill and ability to admit that you suck.

@maagi1

20 күн бұрын

@@Primal_Echo DH still has one of the highest damage, with every type of cc, damage immunity, short cd damage redu, cc immunity, dispel for healer, lots of mobility, etc..

i only clicked on this so i could dislike it. Dragonflight is asss

@maagi1

20 күн бұрын

That's very mature of you, kid