Alec has made hundreds of knives and swords and his giant desk lamp is the most deadly thing of them all…

@P3x310

5 ай бұрын

I absolutely sympathise with Jamie and that jump he made at 5:52 when the lamp fell a little bit and clanged right next to him.

@ehsnils

5 ай бұрын

It's after all hazmat orange. Should be reflective orange for true hazmat warning signs though.

@just5fornow

4 ай бұрын

​@@ehsnils He should have put yellow and black stripes on it too!

The amount of "the unhinged giggle of a man who knows he's making a potentially catastrophic mistake" in this episode is WONDERFUL

You should mount some steel rods inside through the springs so if they break they don't shoot off like a rocket. That's what they do with garage door springs.

@woogywips

6 ай бұрын

Honestly, as amazing as all this is, I couldn't help but think that at some point one or more of those springs is going to explode in the background of another video and that lamp is going to come crashing down. Seems to me that with the weights involved, skipping the engineering phase is the same as skipping the safety phase. I really hope they took the appropriate precautions and just didn't include them in the video.

@daveash9572

6 ай бұрын

The metal rods used inside garage door springs are generally for springs which are used in torsion, not in tension. Alec's springs are used in tension. It would not be possible to put a solid rod inside those springs (if you did, the spring wouldn't be able to stretch). The only thing I can think of which could be added to Alec's springs for safety would be sone sort of cable tether which would need to be long enough to allow the spring to reach its full stretch. No idea where the slack would live when the spring was compressed though. The energy in this design should frighten anyone within 10 metres of it.

@e.scottdaugherty8291

6 ай бұрын

cable would be easier, & safer

@Finn-McCool

6 ай бұрын

Just use a hydraulic system with fake springs on the outside 😉 All problems of balance solved, issues articulating solved and safety solved. If you notice, little toys that have been scaled down utilize springs that simulate the hydraulics of the original excavator/dump truck/crane so the way to scale up a spring is... You guessed it... HYDRAULICS. 😊😊

@ChuckChuckBoBuck

6 ай бұрын

@@Finn-McCoolI was just thinking that same thing, thinking he could use long travel hydraulic or nitrogen charged shocks in place of the springs. Something from an 4x4/offroad application would probably be the ticket. Or he could use a double acting hydraulic cylinder with the extend/retract ports linked together with a tube hose, making them essentially self acting just like a spring. That would allow him to fine tune them with different oil viscosities or orifice size to adjust flow rate for a nice smooth, easy, balanced, movement, a system like that would never see pressures high enough to cause catastrophic damage should a part fail.

"I have decided that ours is bigger, with no means of actually proving it." This line was so well delivered you had me cracking up >.< love the videos and humor throughout!

Alec's responce to Jamie scaring him is perfect and pricelss

A bit of friction in your pivots would likely get you easily to the place where you can adjust it and it stays in position.

@owentodd5318

6 ай бұрын

friction is most definitely what is holding the lamp stable after moving it. the springs just have a pressure balance to make the object "weightless" so that the object can be easily moved but also able to be held stable by the friction at the joints

@ontic2354

5 ай бұрын

Exactly. Tune the spring loading as best you can, and friction hinges to fine tune it, like a friction window stay or similar.

@robm.4512

5 ай бұрын

Mmmm. Yup, that’s what she said.

@stevewells20

5 ай бұрын

The problem with this is the scale. Friction in the joints of the small version can work without requiring much force to move because the cantilevered mass is small. You need to scale that friction up to have stability with such a large mass, and that scales up the manual pushing force required to overcome it. With the amount of steel he has hanging up there, it's likely the necessary friction would be ridiculously hard to overcome by hand.

@greggv8

3 ай бұрын

@@stevewells20 they need to remake the lamp shade in aluminum, like the original. If he makes a steel shade the size of the original and puts it on the original lamp, it won't work.

This has been the goofiest, most silly thing I’ve ever seen done. I’ve loved every minute.

Alec Steele being Alec Steele absolutely love it

Something I'm sure others have mentioned- Some designs for these lamps use a 'pinch' force at the elbow and the shoulder to help adjust the poseability. An adjuster knob on the side of the joint squeezes the bracket holding one or more of the armatures, increasing the friction on the hinge and making it stick, but not so tight that the user can't move it with aid from the spring.

It’s insane how things scale. It’s such a massive difference

@smashyrashy

6 ай бұрын

Yeah who would have thought the worlds largest would be so much bigger

@DavidLeeKersey

6 ай бұрын

If you double the linear dimensions you increase the volume by a factor 8. So say a cube that is a foot long per side is 1 cubic foot. But a cube that is 2 feet per side is 8 cubic feet. Double it again to 4 feet per side and now your volume is 64 cubic feet.

@klikklak6099

6 ай бұрын

Alot of things cannot be scaled to such a degree I'm glad this worked tho

Now I'm not sure if I'm right here, but the antique lamp might be using the type of spring that's called a linear spring (which continues to stretch or compress under the same or very similar load). What you're using is definitely a progressive spring (which stiffens up the more you stretch or compress it from its original position). That might make the difference of the lamp being able to rest at whatever position you set it to.

@duodot

6 ай бұрын

I think you got that backwards. Most springs are linear. Progressive springs are indeed a thing, but not common to my knowledge. All springs follow Hooke's Law, which states that force is directly proportional to spring displacement, and those springs he use seem very linear to me. A progressive spring just has a change in geometry along its work length, whether diameter, wire size, pitch, etc. I think his problem was simply that he didn't use enough spring and counterbalanced more force.

@lukedorey

5 ай бұрын

​@@duodotI assume he means constant pressure springs by linear. As in the force applied is roughly constant through a range of travel with a specific pretensioning

@wouter537

5 ай бұрын

The angel poise design uses a spring called a zero free length spring. This means that if you draw a force to length graph the line will cross the 0 force at 0 length. The spring are made with a pretension to get this feature.

If you look on the original Anglepoise lamp you can adjust the tension of the springs by winding them in to the end caps.

Love the lamp! I also love the slick advertising. It's the best integration of the ad with the video I've ever seen.

Alec, mate, I was in industrial maintenance and I spotted a problem with the base you made. Do future Alec a favor and read my post: The hole and pin in the base you are really going to want to put some anti-seize compound (it isn't grease, it has more to it than that) in case you ever want to get that pin out again or it will rust weld itself in there in a surprisingly fast amount of time. You are in England, the land of moistness, so we are talking just a few months before it will take a wheel puller and one year before a torch would be involved. If you pulled it now and put some anti-seize compound, it will just take a few whacks with a and a little heat at most in a decade or two's time to pop it out. -Cheers

Aside from some of the temporary things you've done to move heavy equipment, this is easily the most dangerous thing you've built. I've seen those kinds of springs explode before (garage door extension springs), and it's shocking what power is released when they do. In the ones I've been around there was no indication that failure was coming, it was just extended (ie. garage door down), then a loud bang as one snapped, and the spring was in 2-3 pieces. I honestly don't understand how the one broke into 3 pieces, but it sent a small coil out of the middle flying against the wall and then it hit the floor and rolled away. In those cases, the garage door was down so the spring was the only hazard, but in your case that means a lot of mass suddenly unsupported high in the air. With that configuration, whichever pair of springs is holding it up will have one failure followed briefly by the other overextending and then a second failure, so you may have some warning. But I wouldn't rely on it. I strongly recommend giving this some sort of safety cable or something to catch it if it breaks loose. Love your channel and the crazy things you make, so please don't get yourself killed with your lamp.

@emeraldbonsai

6 ай бұрын

These arent garage door springs they gave up on thoose these are the springs used for clay disk throwing machines

@Merennulli

6 ай бұрын

@@emeraldbonsaiFair enough. Though the failure mode is the same.

I appreciate that you wanted it to look as much like the smaller model as possible, but I really think a few changes would have been better to make it more effective and safe. Namely, the tension system. 1. Using counterweights to reduce the amount of tension in the system 2. Increasing the lever lengths to increase mechanical advantage 3. Using pneumatic cylinders instead of springs that can suck in or bleed out air to equalize pressure. This could make the system easier to balance and have a safer failure state than springs.

Please we all need a Alec Steele and Colin Furze collaboration. The madness the 2 of you could come up with needs to be in the world. You're both so mad but capable of stunning engineering and neither of you let "it's not possible" be part of the conversation. Also honestly not sure if "it's not going in!" "Spit on it and wiggle it about a bit!" is really something you should be saying without at least acknowledging the innuendo of the comment with a subtle raised eyebrow or something. Golden opportunities going to waste. Hydraulics would give you the control you need.

I actually love projects like this that are interesting, and you’ve never seen done before

That lamp is so cool. 😍 What i need now is a collab with you and Simone Giertz who also loves to make everyday objects huge. 🙏🏼

lol @ 5:55 when Jamie jumps. "what happened?!" "...nothin'"

I like that you made it orange so nobody would trip over it, good stuff.

I think adding a mechanical way of articulating it would add a lot to the functionality. Lead screws in parallel with the springs with a hand wheel/ crank on it would be pretty easy to implement. If it's added in parallel with the springs then it should take a relatively small amount of force to articulate it.

@kameljoe21

5 ай бұрын

Yes, something like this would be super. I kinda want one made for out in the yard. Would be quite cool. The screw thing would be far better of an idea as you could crank them to get the light where you want it at.

Scaling is a complicated affair. It can be painfully obvious and aggravatingly oblique at the same time. That said, when it comes to leverages, i don't think you're far from a solution to make it life like, but just not with a bought spring. This puppy needs its own custom springs, formulated to the specific size and extension required. UK has quite a few custom spring shops, maybe reach out to them? They'll not only be able to make it, but they'll also know what kind of spring you need. I think it's worth it.

YES NEW JAMIE VIDEO (featuring Alec) joking joking youre both great

"Spit on it" JESUS, ALEC! 🤣🤣🤣

The ones we have in Denmark are switched on top of the shade, and I was hoping to see you guys rigging up ropes to turn it on 😂 have loved this journey, it feels a lot like "the good old days"

Coolest shop light ever made!!

If you don't get Pixar Studios to make you an offer on that, both of you would be missing the boat. Could you imagine that sitting in a small roundabout island at or near the entrance of their campus entrance, or in the center of a fountain in front of the main building. Add some robotics to make it move like a spotlight shining to the sky at night,. Absolute magic!

Great video, lots of laughs. Many years ago, before Health and Safety, we used to have a metal sheet and hammer hanging in the lab. If someone was about do do something "dangerous", you would creep up behind them with the plate and give it an almighty bang with the hammer. What fun! BTW, on the website, I think the quote should be "“A grinder and paint will make me the welder I ain’t”

Nice work Alec and Jamie on this project

I'd put parralel stainless steel rope straps in parralel with each spring in case a spring breaks the straps will also prevent the springs from over-stretching. Wonderful lamp and i love the final look. Cheers for sharing the build, man!

It's the friction in the joints that allows the lamp to hold in various positions, not balance of spring force. Balancing spring force will only hold it in the one "at rest" position that your lamp stays in. That's why you're having trouble scaling, the coefficient of friction isn't linear. You need like a wheel on the bolts at the joints to be able to loosen/tighten the joint friction. Some knurling of the opposing box-steel surfaces would also help to increase joint friction.

You young man are crazy intelligent and I really admire that. Very fun watching the build. Stay safe.

New AS vid, New ToT vid, new IM vid, New CF vid, and anticipation of tomorrow's BH vid. This has been a good week

congratulations on your new desk lamp!

These lamps hold themselves in place with more than just spring tension. There's a certain level of friction in all the pivots to allow it to stick in place with the HELP of the springs. If all the joints in the arm are free-moving, then you're going to keep fighting with the balance forever.

epic! this is the kind of stuff I love seeing. take something normal and scale it up to a ridiculous size. Specifically a lamp this size is something I've been dreaming about for years, and seeing someone making it happen is amazing :)

Hi Replace (or support) the springs with pneumatic cylinders so you can use the shop air to position it!

@bungeetoons

6 ай бұрын

Like this post to get it to the top

The mounting of the arm was a great depiction of "apes together strong" 😂

Jamie bringing the comedy! Really laughed at him shouting bang.

I'm so glad we're back. The drop forge was EXCELLENT but I just cant wait for LAMP

I've seen a similar art installation once, but it was welded in position. This is absolutely bonkers and you can be proud of your work!

Well done to you both for finishing it. That must have been an absolute headache to engineer. Also have to say, despite all the jumpscares Jamie has done to Alec, the ones Alec has done to Jamie are even more satisfying! Saying that either way it never gets old. Keep putting out cracking content lads!

glad the leverage ideas helped!

I remember when you were in a small dirty shop, and now you're building these awesome crazy projects. Congratulations, Alec! You make my day every time I see your videos. Cheers 🍻 mate. Looking forward to more.

The finished lamp looks absolutely brilliant! The size of the lamps in Spain can be extrapolated, if something at a known height (or width) can be determined in the photos. Now all we need is the world's largest desk to set the lamp on, or the world's largest reading chair sitting next to it! Keep doing what you do 😁👍‼

@JamesChurchill3

6 ай бұрын

Surely the size of lamps in other countries can be extrapolated also?

God damn I nearly died when he went BAAM!! 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

You guys are nuts!!!! “Only touch it if you’re going to make life easier” 😂😂😂

Good job boys you got four advertisements in this one segment first square space in fact the whole show was about square space I love it. Good job.

This is a proper work of art, I would love to have this as an installation in my yard😍

You should add black strips to it and make it a "WHO DEY" lamp!! As always keep up the FANTASTIC work!!!

Jesus, even I jumped at that “bang!” 😂😂😂

LMAO that jump scare 🤣😂🤣😂 he's a real friend

Good luck with it Alec. Thanks for filming the process. 😁👍🏼

Picked a fantastic final colour for it. Looks awesome.

Yeah! You are getting it! 🙌👏

“Look at that, Jamie! That is the most dangerous thing I’ve ever created.” 😂

One of your best videos to date. Outstanding stuff 👍

5:54 gets all the chuckles!!! Push Repeatedly for even more chuckles

It's not only about spring tension, but also about JOINT FRICTION.

Maybe someone like Mark Rober could help by coming up with creative ideas to solve the balance problem

If you want to do some forging again, I’d suggest making a Halligan Tool out of Damascus Steel for your local Fire Department, you could maybe even turn that project into a lesson on Workshop safety!

Very much looking forward to the humongous desk video series you're certainly working on to go along with this lamp

Jamie, that was the perfect timing!

The original is relying on the friction in the joints to act as a brake and overcome any imbalance in the spring forces at rest. Your joints are so much smaller relative to the lengths of the armatures that you're never going to achieve exactly the same result that eay.

Well done ... I had my doubts in the early parts of this project!

I have never before enjoyed your videos more. That rhymes so it must be true.

"⁶⁶Spit on it" lol. Alec is as innocent as he seems. Lmmfao

Great colour choice.

This is SO COOL looking

"Without any means of proving it, I've decided ours is bigger"...probably the most American thing I've ever heard you say. Lol. 😆 🤣

I made a 2.5m high ang;lepoise patio heater a few years ago and actually did the maths and they just don't scale. You need a zero length spring which in practical terms doesn't exist. At a small scale the friction at the pivots allows the various poise angles. Even anglepoise's own giant lamp only balances at certain points. Still cool though if you get it to balance at a pleasing angle.

Replace the springs with linear actuators so you can control it without having to get on a ladder.

Died laughing why the double entendre, marvelous.

Been a fan since the "videos every day" with Sam in Bakersfield. 8+ years now. Glad youre still going strong with your dreams. Miss the old style videos of forging and making things. Videos and the channel now just seem to be placeholders for sponsor ads. Hope you rekindle the flame/forge and get back to basics eventually. KZread kills us with ads every 2mins as it is. Make the content more than just advertising if you can.

This is absolutely wild! Such an iconic piece of functional design. Im in ore! You should be proud! 😎

Magnificent 30 foot desk lamp. Two thumbs way up 👍👍

This was a fun project to watch

The BANG! Had me laughing…..😂😂 very good!

The glow up at the end really finished this project off beautifully :)

You had a sympathetic thumbs up for enduring with this mad project. Something more sensible next, perhaps. If only for a break from the ludicrous. Great job hehe

Awesome project. This thing is super cool but those springs under constant tension is absolutely horrifying. That much potential energy being released in a failure could definitely maim or even kill you, never mind the thing crashing down on you. I'd lash it to the ceiling and take most of the tension off the springs just to be safe, we know it works after all!

I can't wait to see the desk you put it on.

Very cool project!! If I were to hazard a guess, I would say longer and stronger springs so spring rate does not change as much over the full stroke of movement.

What a flex! Tell me you're a metal worker without telling me you're a metal worker.

This looks great. If you are not going to leave it disassembled then you might want to put a back out preventer on the turn buckle bolt so it doesn't back out and fall apart accidentally.

Awesome build!! Only thought, as I sit here looking at the microphone arm on my desk, is adding a spring set at the upper joint as well. Don't think you really need it, but that was my thought. Mind you, there are a couple of differences between the mic arm and your lamp arm design, but just a thought.

I've got a sword forging idea for you. You should forge a life sized replica of "The Hand of Malenia" from Elden Ring keep in mind. Malenia from Elden Ring was apparently 8 feet tall.

no way you actually finished, really loved this project

2:33 just a slow decent into madness haha

16:53 holy crap, just gonna hang out here on the ceiling lol

"I've desided that ours is bigger!" 😂😂😂 👏👏👏👏

@tilkka_

6 ай бұрын

That should be a t-shirt/merch logo. Alec standing under and lamp on background. "World's largest" - A. Steele

Alec, you always give me the best naps! Thanks again for all the great content. Have you ever thought about studying engineering in school and maybe learn how to work out all the bugs before you find them with an epic face plant?

You can get custom springs manufactured. I have had small ones made in the past, but something of that scale might be difficult and be expensive.

So epic and amazing!

I’ve been laughed at three times today, all because of my angle poise lamp. What’s wrong with your angle poise lamp? “LOOK AT THE FOOKIN SIZE OF IT!” 😂 boys that looks blummin amazing, well done 🤟🏻🙂

Watching Alec lose it and start swearing was absolutely beautiful 😂😂

Durham city has a giant Anglepoise lamp artwork thing left over after the Lumiere festival last weekend.

You should have made a mini pulley system on the end of the springs opposite the adjustment. So the short strong springs would ask as long springs with 50% or 25% the strength (depending on the pulley system) i think you would get more travel in the arm if the 2 ends that the springs are attached could double or triple in length via the mini pulley system.

Man, what a project. Its amazing. Great work guys. I thought you would use hydraulics/pneumatics(you could just use your shop air hoses so that'd be easier than hydraulics) but it would allow you to change the height of the lamp so much easier and handsfree. It would also prevent it from falling suddenly if the springs were to break. Nonetheless, awesome work Also, imagine how much work/time was put into making ALLLL of those big lamps for the art installation you were talking about. Thats crazy lmao