Why would you even test the TUF is you didn't update the drivers? literally no point and makes all the comparisons irrelevant. Poor review buddy. Genuine waste of everyone's time.

@user-ym7ss6xb3j

6 ай бұрын

AMEN !

I have to disagree with the things you said about noise. For me personally the noise is always the most important part after performance and I always try to run my components as quietly as possible without running in the temp limit as I usually render stuff over night with my PC in the same room. Also saying that the GPU noise is irrelevant because you wont be able to hear the gpu in the system because other components are louder anyways doesnt make sense to me. It would be interesting if you couldve shown us some data so the viewers could see how much quieter the card actually is. But ofc its highly unlikely that the gap would be high enough to justify this ridiculous price in any way. Other than that I agree with the things you said and poined out, I especially like that the videos are focused on creative applications which is really useful and something I havent seen on KZread so far ;)

Biggest thing is that its shorter than all the cards so it can fit into older cases. Yes a 4090 in this would sell if they keep it short.

I wanted it cause I’m a Noctua fan but I scored the 4090FE, which is cheaper. Maybe if they released a 4090 version 😊

@theTechNotice

Жыл бұрын

That's what I mean :)

@johnkristian

Жыл бұрын

Same here, wanted it for quiet htpc/gaming rig, but ended up with PNY 4090 because of the price ... and that cars wad WAY more silent than my old MSI 3080.

@sebastiansegovia1415

Жыл бұрын

How are you typing comments if you are a Noctua Fan?

@IndieAuthorX

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastiansegovia1415 lol

@veinnzofficial

8 ай бұрын

Nah, the real reason why Noctua is doing the 4080 is because the 4090 has some hardware issues (melting connectors for example) and Noctua needs to keep thier reputation in order for them to keep their prices up. Now you might ask, Nvidia needs to keep their reputation too, they are bigger then Noctua isnt it? Well, they actually blame users for the melting connectors issues, so... yeah.

I think the ambient temperature might make a bigger difference here. I'm trying to say, at higher ambient temperatures the noise level might be exponentially higher for other cards. No numbers were given for the noise tests? I mean, it might not matter to you but it matters to people who wants to buy it? From where I am the ambient is usually >33 Degree Celsius. Higher ambient temperature might also cause the card to perform differently with the tests carried out. Also not mentioning the longevity of the cards running at higher temperatures throughout the life of the card. But does it justify the price? Need to see the numbers.

For some small number of people who literally sleeps 1 cm away from their computer😂

@chrisx1197

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@aintnomeaning

Жыл бұрын

Most Californians at current rent prices, a big market!

@ABaumstumpf

Жыл бұрын

Or anybody that is not deaf.

@Frozoken

Жыл бұрын

​@@ABaumstumpf Buddy 4080 coolers are ridiculously over built, they're all quiet as shit. Stop shilling

@DaCreepyCreeper

Жыл бұрын

did you know you can turn off pc when you go to sleep? 🤯

Could you help me build a PC for optimized work?

Hey man, I've working in the cleaning and maintenance of PC's formally since 2017. Since lockdowns and cryptomining, I've receiving a lot of GPUs with LOOSE screws, specially in the die area... Like 1 full turn loose. You should check that on all your graphic cards actually... Around 3/5 cards I get to clean come like that these days and even in new ones (specially new ones :/)

@ramjuan86

Жыл бұрын

how do you get this job?

For anything Audio the Noctua still has purpose. I’ve owned the Tuf card, it’s like hearing a fighter jet take off. Impossible to record with and mine also developed coil wine. What these review don’t show or explain is how noisey they become as they wear in. Still a very informative review.

What was the point in testing the gpus if thay are false results not using updated drivers it's false consumer information

for that price I can take rtx 4090🤘🤘🤘

It makes sense because I can fit it in my pc case, while the normal 4080 cards are too long. Pricewise, I agree, it doesn't make sense.

Honestly I'd argue that if you have a good 360mm+ AIO for your CPU, the GPU under load is for sure the loudest component in your system. I was disappointed that you didn't have any dB benchmarks comparing the cards. How MUCH quieter is it? Would be interesting to benchmark it against the new AIO 4080s that came out since this video released

@20939

7 ай бұрын

yeah I have a 3080ti and the stock fans on it are absolute jets and honestly makes high end gaming annoying, CPU fan is noctua NH-D15 which is why I'm considering getting this 4080 so it's just a quiet

The only benefit I can see is if you want a smaller form factor build, but 400 more is way out there I would take the 4090 option all day long given the choice.

@torii_101

Жыл бұрын

won't make sense in a SFF or mATX build as well, most case sizes mentioned are at most 4 expansion slots and the card is 4.3 slots thick - thicker than nicki minaj

@DailyCorvid

Жыл бұрын

​@@torii_101 I'm sure I could find enough space to slot in there if it's Nicki 😂

@shadyyogainstructor932

Жыл бұрын

This actually makes LESS sense cause of it's massive size. I currently have a 4080 FE in a formd T1 which is the smallest compatible case available and I get phenomenal cooling performance alongside my undervolted 7700x in the middle of summer heat. This card is just stupid for the 4080

It's a very smart marketing move. If you release Noctua 4090 right away as the only option, you'll have some sales, of course, but not much. 4090 is expensive. If you release 4080 first, you get some sales, you boost buyers' interest, you heat up the market, and then at the peak of selling 4080 and at the peak of people demanding 4090, you release Noctua 4090 (maybe with 3 fans to look more aggressive), and you win! You get sales of both 4080 and 4090. Double profit. I'm pretty sure Noctua already has 4090 prototype and only waits for the most proficient time.

@theTechNotice

Жыл бұрын

That's an interesting point!

@JohnSmith-pn2vl

Жыл бұрын

of course the gpu is always the loudest, they always have absolutely terrible cooling, the noctua is the only silent one. and you can easily replace the fans if needed. not a marketing item, just noctua style. for me noise is the primary feature, always.

@anso3886

9 ай бұрын

well still waiting for that Noctua 4090

@veinnzofficial

8 ай бұрын

Nah, the real reason why Noctua is doing the 4080 is because the 4090 has some hardware issues (melting connectors for example) and Noctua needs to keep thier reputation in order for them to keep their prices up. Now you might ask, Nvidia needs to keep their reputation too, they are bigger then Noctua isnt it? Well, they actually blame users for the melting connectors issues, so... yeah.

@user-hp7nn8ud3b

7 ай бұрын

@@anso3886 I’m waiting too. I need it bro….

Interesting vid, as usual. Question. The 4080 noctua edition lenght is 310mm, and that is quite short and a longer card can be a NO GO in some watercooled atx cases (I know that). So, regardless of the price, does an aircooled 4090 shorter than 310mm exists ?

@Frozoken

Жыл бұрын

it's thick as shit tho

@alpenfoxvideo7255

Жыл бұрын

the Founder Edition 4090 is 304mm and runs plenty cool and it's the cheapest one too (oh yeah, no plastic and gamery design too)

which component of a system would be louder than a GPU under load ?

@theTechNotice

Жыл бұрын

Any CPU cooler I'd imagine, PSU, case fans? :)

@thomas.becker

Жыл бұрын

@@theTechNotice Fans of higher-end CPU coolers would need to run at 1000 to 1200 rpm max, same goes for case fans, PSUs usually run almost silent, if not completely when overspec'd. GPU fans are usually smaller and run faster than CPU- or case fans and are therefore louder. 1500 to 2000 rpm would be normal for GPUs.

my teacher offered me to purchase one of his personal cards, 900€ for a 4080 and 1250€ for a 4090, i picked the 4080 and its cooler is massive, I seldom hear it ramp up when I put it to work. I think most people, including me have no idea how overbuildt the 4080 cooler is, i think its 3 times bigger as my 2080 😅

Having bought the Zotac 4090 AMP Extreme Airo, it is among the best cards when it comes to coil whine, it is whisper quiet. Cooling is also excellent but my god the fans are terrible. Asus cards on the other hand are almost always whisper quiet when it comes to fans but they have terrible coil whine. For me, if we could have this noctua cooler on the zotac cards, it would absolutely be the best of both worlds.

@SuperRedrum123

Жыл бұрын

I have a PNY 4080 Verto OC and it initially had some bad coil whine but it has settled over time. Have it vertically mounted for the X shape RGP.

@Lynnfield3440

Жыл бұрын

The manli 4090 is also great in my experience, never gets loud and stays cool enough.

@kostistsiutras4373

Жыл бұрын

After a lot of research i bought Gigabyte rtx 4090 Gaming Oc, undervolted it and I literally cant even tell that the card is on, besides the rgb that is, 350+ fps at 1440p while gaming and literally 0% sounds, 0% coil whine and GPU temps at 49C and hotspot at 52C. SO HAPPY WITH THE SPECIFIC PURCHASE :)

@workhard5838

Жыл бұрын

@@kostistsiutras4373 which liquid cooler do you use on your rtx?

@kostistsiutras4373

Жыл бұрын

@@workhard5838 no liquid cooler but an INSANELY efficient air cooled lian li lancool 3 case with specific noctua industrial fans and a very specific intake exhaust plan :)

I wouldn’t be surprised if Asus/Noctua had issues with getting Nvidia to let them use AD102 chips to make a 4090 version of this for whatever reason, it would be the only logical explanation why this cooler was only released on a 4080

I'm interested in this GPU. Are the fans removeable? I want to change those with the Chromax Black equivalent - if that would be possible, it would be an instant buy.

@Bubuu66

4 ай бұрын

Any GPU fans are remove able

Quitenes IS a point to be bragging about. My CPU is almost noiseles... But when i turn VR the noise is very noticeable for my zotac 3060 ti.

The Noctua is specifically aiming for higher cooling power or low noise at the same temperature. There they succeed. If this isn't your interest, this isn't for you.

Do you know if there is any exterior difference between the normal and the new Noctua 4080 super version? I only see on the websites the word "super" on the boxes and strange prices. I don't trust myself to buy it. :(

9:35 I guess I'm the exception to this statement. I recently built a new PC. I'm using open back headphones, which means I don't block out much noise from my PC. The i5 13600 cpu is air cooled with a Noctua NH-D15S, and I can't really hear the fans until they get past 60%+ speed, which is pretty much never. My GPU is a PNY 4070ti, known for very low noise levels compared to similar air cooled cards, which was the main reason I got it. However, when I'm gaming the only thing I actually hear are the fans on my GPU ramping up and down. Basically, my system overall is more or less quiet except for the GPU when it's under load. My previous card was a 1080 hybrid card, so I guess I have been spoiled by low noise levels. So in my case it makes a lot of sense to get something like the Noctua card, unless I go for another hybrid card again.

I don't know how your build your systems, but in mine, the GPU under load is usually the loudest part of mine. My power supply, HX1200's fan never comes on. My PA120 heat sink fans cooling a 5950x, Silent Wings 4 and T30 run at 850rpm when under full load, inaudible from 1m away. The case fans run at 500rpm for the 180mm fans, also inaudible, even late at night. Keeps the CPU and GPU at +46c degrees delta, when stress tested. You don't have much choice in what fans can go on the GPU, you can only control their RPM with MSI afterburner. So if they are quiet, then even better

I wonder if the cold plate is large enough to cover the 4090 die. Would be interesting to see how the noctua cooler, fans and shroud fare on the 4090. No it's not at all practical to buy both a 4080 and a 4090 to do this, but the idea is something I had thought about with the noctua 3080, which legitimately could make a marked improvement in cooling which possibly could result in higher overall clock speeds.

Check if your 4080 has a vapor chamber. It is not at all dependent on price. But it makes your system stable and quiet. My much cheaper Gigabyte Eagle OC has one and the fans are so quiet gaming. Some high end branded MSI and also that TUF card have NO VAPOR CHAMBER!

I finished building may first PC video editing thank you for your advised i learned allot from you .

Is it just for graphics work with this video card?. If I want to play games, is this graphics card better or the 4080?

For me the Noctua is for a small form factor case. I want to build a small 10L case and most 4080 3 fan cards won't fit but this would fit perfectly!

10:05 there are factory watercooled 4080's : aorus and colorful igame

Sense is there it's shorter. I have Corsair 680X case and I had to return Asus Strix RTX4080; because it would not fit in my case.. No point in making cards or coolers longer when SLI in not the point anymore and usually there is space vertically.

@cesareromano8255

11 ай бұрын

I also have the Corsair Crystal 680X case, were you able to mount the Noctua 4080 GPU vertically in the seat already present in the case or is it too thick ? Kindly let me know. Thank you

"the gpu is not the loudest component in your system anyways" i'd like you to meet my rig :o

Waste of money. 4090

What, in what world is the gpu not the loudest component of your build? Unless youre building with an ATX psu, the gpu will literally always be the loudest component.

"you wont be able to hear the gpu in the system because other components are louder anyways" What components makes more noise than a GPU card under load?

Thanks Tech Notice. I have just cancelled the order with this price I would buy a MSI Suprim X RTX 4090. Nice video !! Subscrided !!

i think you've missed the point that the main draw of this GPU is that it can fit in smaller form factor cases and it matches the aesthetics of non-rgb, stylish builds

the GPU is the loudest by far.. in any system.. wth do u have in ur system that is louder then the gpu??

It would have been great to see testing on its main selling point: the low noise.

If they’re going to price it like a 4090 may as well include a 4090 in the benchmarks 🤷‍♂️

Yes, there are 4080 Liquidcooled card out there! Colorful 4080 neptune & Gigabyte 4080 xtreme waterforce

This'd make more sense if the FE models of the RTX 40XX series weren't already overkill cooling solution to begin with. Add the higher price of this on top & it becomes a rather unattractive option for already horribly priced GPUs.

Even the Galax RTX 4080 ST I'm getting, is much cheaper than Noctua's 4080 in NZ. Plus the Galax has 3 fans & looks much better than the Noctua. I would not even want to put this GPU in my PC, as the colours are a huge turn off lol :P Galax 4080 ST: $2199NZD($1367.11USD) Noctua 4080: $2799NZD($1740.13USD)

My wife has an RX 580 and I have a RTX 2060 what would be the best budget cpu's to pair with thease right now we are both using I7-3770's.

@rickwhite7736

Жыл бұрын

12th gen intel will go fine I am running a rx480 nitro with a i5 12600 and it works well.

Great Video again

I'd buy it becuase it will fit my Torrent Compact without removing the front 180mm fans.

the main reason getting the noctua 4080 because of its dimensions

Whats about Coilwhine? Thx

They need to cut the profit between three brands, not between two which is the usual. That's why it's too expensive. Noctua does amazing fans, but it doesn't make sense on a GPU.

unrelated since i'm too poor for this GPU's existance to matter to me at all but IMO it is a shame we never got an ARC A770 16GB review from you, it is still selling for $350 and nobody has done a "creator" focused review but there is plenty 3060 coverage from creators perspectives :(

I got a Strix 4090 OC, only £400 more, and the Strix is also very very quiet Can you compare the noise/perf between the 2?

@DailyCorvid

Жыл бұрын

Only £400 more? That's a 1/3 of the total price. This can of beer is $3 but this one here is colder and costs $4 lol madness.

@DinoFancellu

Жыл бұрын

@@DailyCorvid Eh? Yes, its a 4090. vs 4080.

Is ddr5 worth it over ddr4 already?

If you're buying a Noctua card it's likely you already have all Noctua fans in your system and in that sense it may make sense noise wise however I'm gonna save my cash for a Noctua 4090 and hope it comes in under 2 grand.

This review was a total miss. The whole point is a whisper quiet cooling system. I'd gladly pay the premium for the silent operation under max load. I'm a VFX artist who works from home. To be able to work with no headphones, no active noise cancelation, with the system running at 100% is a godsend. Especially running 10-20 hour renders on the GPU, with no noticable noise. The loudest thing in my flat when redering is my breathing. I don't mind overpaying for the cooling, if the system is quiet. And that's the whole point of the GPU. Plus, it's so much more simpler, and not to mention cheaper, than running water cooling.

What is this card, you ask. Awesome. And it will fit in well with my other fans of the same make. The aspect of quiet has value.

Great video dude!

I'd rather buy a 4090 on sale...IF I HAD THE MONEY!

I'd like to see a 4070 ti version.

@lexavlogs7149

Жыл бұрын

For 1200$

these will be sough after when Blackwell releases and sells for a normal price 1600 is stupid pricing, $ Noctua premium is not worth 40% extra lol

This card and the 3080 are the dummest things noctua never made

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Gpu is always the loudest component in yoru system lol.

Noise and enabling itx builds. You want compact you pay for it. Price doesn't make sense to most pc builders.

ASUS is on my banned list until their behavior improves - due to their BIOS destroying some AMD chips.

10:03 Inno3d has a 4080 with a waterblock on it... Frostbite :)

Just thinking, this or 3 fan RTX

For some who are using a small case, smaller card that cools efficiently is a big plus

You got 150K now! I hope you don't go "popular" and totally change the format. This channel is so cool, but I like it the way it is lol please do not do a Linus!

@theTechNotice

Жыл бұрын

Do Linus how? :)

@DailyCorvid

Жыл бұрын

​@@theTechNotice He used to be sooo much better, but now his channel is 99% for babies to watch, nothing useful in it! He still does the WAN show though, that is the only remaining piece of the OG Linus show. It's still awesome, but I don't watch his channel stuff now. To be fair to Linus, he does well but it would be like if you were sponsored $500k to do a 45 min fidget spinner video :D

"It just doesn't make sense!" -Tshirt please :) Would wear proudly.

@theTechNotice

Жыл бұрын

I like that!

@DailyCorvid

Жыл бұрын

@@theTechNotice YT Merch collector! I have loads of really unique things I badger the creators I follow to make. I actually have a pair of boxers with Linus Tech Tips face on LOL never wear them but a decent value collector piece. Never thought I would pay for another mans boxers, but here we are :D Meme pants.

Sorry but the GPU is the loudest component in a PC. And not all gamer use headsets to cancel noise out.

It's a vanity card purchase, why do you buy it? Because a person can at that price, it allows them to show off their GPU Flex. As was said in the video, at the Noctua 4080 price, you can buy 4090 card, that's what I would do, instead of buying a way overpriced 4080 card, even if it's a Noctua edition.

this GPU can change to any fan when fan fail, nothing special, but is kinda useful feature, if someone create a 3d printing mounting for any other card to change standard cpu available fan, yes to substitute this noctual variant

@mikfhan

Жыл бұрын

And I assume you could invert the fan direction for exhaust - sometimes in SFF cases this is preferable to intake, to avoid a hotbox case slowcooking the CPU/PSU.

When gaming, GPU IS THE LOUDEST COMPONENT.

2:15 - you claim that the Amp Extreme Aero has the highest clockspeed under load, yet you show only advertised clockspeeds? Why? 8:40 - "is the noctua better"? well without comparing the RPM and noise that is a meaningless statement - just crank up the fans to 100% and it is "better". But what counts is how noisy it is for a given cooling performance, or for the extreme - how high it can ramp up and cool at max capacity. The "is it quieter" is the same thing - useless. You need both. Also no, in general the GPU is the loudest part - if not than you did something SERIOUSLY wrong. Case-fans are plenty and only need to provide a bit of nearly unrestricted airflow. And the CPU in general needs far less power and has a better placement for cooling. And then the price - that really is regional. Here it is ~1230€ for the lowest 4080s, 1330€ for the noctua version, and most 4080s are in the range of 1300€. So not much of a difference

This just make me wonder why GPU manufacturers are not making GPUs with replaceable cooling fan system. Like what CPU fans are. These stock gpu fans are just too noisy

I think the main selling point of the Noctua is the length of the card. Besides the FE its the only cart under 310mm

The card is only 30% more expensive than the competition. The Noctua fans are 500% more expensive than Arctic fans which perform about equally, so the card is kind of cheap.

im gonna buy it anyway because its quiet...i hate my pc when the fan sound like jet

The GPU is absolutely the loudest component in any system, what are you smoking my guy? The price is absurd when you can deshroud but it's made to capitalise on the people who were too afraid to do basic deshrouding.

so basically you used TUF as your control group even knowing the driver versions were mismatched - and thenyou go about justifying eventual deltas in results based on this, when convenient... I think you should have just saved yourself the embarassment and retest before even making this video... just a constructive feedback; in the end I agree the Noctua card isn't worth the price bump since it gets into 4090 price territory, which provides much better performance. And the idea of a 4090 Noctua, perhaps with 3 coolers (ok it would be huge), would actually make way more sense, as you said :)

Noctua is also like 3 cm shorter

I can't understand why you are comparing the TUF (with old driver) to cards with newwer drivers, retest or are you lazy?? how about testing them with the same driver and not having such a clickbait title?? seems like BS to me if you can't do that. Do you mean older BIOS? I don't get your test scenario.

Just buy two noctua fans and add them to a regular 4080 (or 4090).

Zotac has always been cheap and dirty quality control. EVGA was the best. Gigabyte has all vapor chambers, Eagle onward is that way for much cheaper

400 bucks for 2 Noctua coolers? Asus has done it again haha

@theTechNotice

Жыл бұрын

erm.. yeah

I'm that guy that says, well if i just spend a little more, i can get a 4080. BUT, if i spend a couple hundred more, i can get a 4090. Well now here i am with a 4090

There are AIO style 4080 to by now. After seeing the pricing of the assus noctua 4080 here in Norway i was dissapointed and i went to No, that`s way to pricy. And after assus latest BIG FUCKUP on the am5 side... I`m staying away from Any assus product 🙄

It's for people who want a silent air-cooled GPU

"Its quieter but that doesnt count'" And youre comparing it to triple slot cards. This review lol.

Guess what... It doesn't make sense. Like you and others in the comments said, this cooler would be great on a 4090.

this card will be easier to overclock, consistently and without issue than probably anything else on the market currently.

Agreed. Price no good.

Thanks for the discount on Windows 11 😎

With noctua you pay for quality and longevity

Uhh, I just have to laugh at these cards now, Look i have an intel nuc extreme 12th gen, and the card is like bigger than my whole computer, If the computers are not getting smaller then tech isnt getting much better IMO.

Wow $200 each for a A12x25, fan prices have really gone up.

@theTechNotice

Жыл бұрын

Lol

I love it but the price is ridiculous.

Makes no sense if it is not on the top-of-the-line 4090. And then, only for emotional, non-technical reasons. And that was obvious even without Laurie's video.