"I'm embarrassed!" | Ben Shalom's honest take on controversial Taylor vs Catterall result
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Boxxer promoter Ben Shalom shares his honest take on the controversial result between Josh Taylor & Jack Catterall.
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A knockdown, point deduction, outboxed all night, even without anything else involved I think jack won 8 rounds. Corruption at its finest. No one will say otherwise.
@aaronfarricker1475
2 жыл бұрын
@@123hoythere for 3 judges to all agree it was a win for Taylor tells us all we need to know, they was paid
@markwinstanley19
2 жыл бұрын
Taylor won 2 and that was point deduction. Man should be a man give belts to jack
@rebellion7463
2 жыл бұрын
I missed the first 6 rounds so i don't know who won that. But after Taylor got knocked down, Jack did absolutely nothing for the rest of the fight. He lost every round after that. Taylor was in his face constantly pushing the pace. Ring generalship son. You can't just stand back and land an odd punch or 2 a minute and grab on for the rest of the round.
@JamesHussain82
2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronfarricker1475 2
@NanaGlover
2 жыл бұрын
@@rebellion7463 Walking infront of someone while not doing anything isn't gonna score you points, Jack was still tagging him and Josh wasn't doing much to respond
One of worst robberies I’ve ever seen. Probably the worst. Gutted for Catterall. Corruption in boxing is beyond a joke
@ViktorM1
2 жыл бұрын
Have you even been watching boxing? It was a close fight
@willwells9708
2 жыл бұрын
@@ViktorM1 it was the opposite of a close fight bro
@bradolfshitler3328
2 жыл бұрын
@@ViktorM1 what was you watching?
@rayshoesmith
2 жыл бұрын
@@ViktorM1 oh stop it josh!
@sajidhussain3519
2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting used to it only happens in United Kingdom
Lmao boxing corruption at its best! Taylor was one step behind all night, got his head jabbed off and dropped! Embarrassing night for British boxing.
@askip9304
2 жыл бұрын
The UK is almost becoming worse than America when it comes to this crap
@SpanishBre
2 жыл бұрын
Boxing is a mess, they are literally destroy themselves. Corrupt judging, big fights not happening or happening 10 years too late, rematch clauses and way too many belts per weight class. Should only be 1 belt that makes you champion of that division, instead they hand out belts like they're candy. I use to love boxing now I'm sick of it
@donone2849
2 жыл бұрын
U having dodgy ref in boxing and also footy, look at that handball from Rodri in city’s game
@gordonharkness2101
2 жыл бұрын
I agree I'm a 100%Taylor fan,scotsman, and this shows why boxing needs to change with regards to judges and score cards, absolute disgrace, Catterall won that, and for Ben and josh to say different, it makes a mockery of boxing.
@chorleycc
2 жыл бұрын
@@askip9304 It is worse 100%. Probably worse than anywhere else. Overseas fighters are going to refuse to box in the UK if this nonsense carries on. I guarentee the BBoC will do sweet FA about it.
It's time judges were made to come out and explain why they have scored a fight they way they scored it.
@jasonahdjfhsdfg
2 жыл бұрын
Money is the reason. They were clearly told to score the fight that way.
@liamgearing
2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonahdjfhsdfg your conspiracies don't help
@jasonahdjfhsdfg
2 жыл бұрын
@@liamgearing you don’t think corruption in boxing happens??? Wake tf up
@blazemkds
2 жыл бұрын
@@liamgearing What other options are there? Because I don't know if you saw, but Taylor got beat up tonight. So how two judges have him winning is madness.
@liamgearing
2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonahdjfhsdfg I do yes. I domt think they were paid. I think they are terrible at their job
This decision should be appealed and overturned , I can't believe people just accept it and the reasoning is this is boxing, this is atrocious
Well done to him for speaking up like this. I hope he does follow through with demanding this be looked into. This decision needs over turned. At the end of the day it doesn't reflect well on him as he is the promoter, so I hope we see a bit of action on this and get an update
@ashervirin9698
2 жыл бұрын
I think he you could see it being that Taylor scraped through
@IWTBF
2 жыл бұрын
Who was promoter
I’m a big Taylor fan but this was such a robbery. Ruining this sport and Catteral’s career in the process.
@ianhope3203
2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully Catterall will go on to greatness while Taylor will do nothing much at higher weight for sure.
@maggiemay7028
2 жыл бұрын
wee guy needs his glory..im totally destroyed in my heart for him..lets all fix this please guys..x
Fair play Ben, very refreshing to hear an honest promoter, rare breed indeed! 👌
How did Ian John Lewis only have Catteral winning 4 rounds? I want whatever he’s on 😂😂 he should never be allowed to judge again!!
@Ggi0900
2 жыл бұрын
I know! The thing is he even scored it the exact opposite way to the way most pundits scored it. Every round that should've been given to Caterall (besides the knockdown round) was given to Taylor and vice versa. He wasn't even watching the fight.
Fair play to Ben a true promoter and a class act.
@lukescovell8294
2 жыл бұрын
hes put on 2 shocking events in a row did you watch the undercard? Not to mention robbery in this UNDISPUTED title fight
@tgb2162
2 жыл бұрын
@@lukescovell8294 did Ben score the fight, or promote it? I think you’re a bit confused..
@michaelmaloney4517
2 жыл бұрын
@@lukescovell8294 Absolutely his shows are terrible..
Robbery… We see it too often, just like Ricky Hattons Son should have lost his last fight, same with Fury Wilder 1. Absolute Disgrace
@fayahmad9063
2 жыл бұрын
Fury wilder one was a draw with all the knockdowns
Watching boxing my whole life and this is the worst decision I've ever seen and there's been some bad ones. Feel so bad for Caterall
@stevebb2915
2 жыл бұрын
Reid vs ottke for me.
@user-wc6mi1lt7y
2 жыл бұрын
Ggg Canelo 1
@GoGetYourShinebox
2 жыл бұрын
Roy Jones Olympics final
@rubski-ds9yc
2 жыл бұрын
Oscar Dela Hoya vs felix strurm 🤔🤔🤔
@advtvjkige1897
2 жыл бұрын
Is it too late to be over turned? obviously it has ruined his night but can there be any justice like that or will he just have to rematch
Fair play to Ben Shalom, gutted for Catterall, the judges should have their fees with held and never be employed again.
So 95% of the world knows it was a robbery but nothing will be done about it.
@jait2024
2 жыл бұрын
Sheep
@JoJo-tu1fc
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😊
Fair play Ben. Eddie Hearn would never come out like this.
@jesuscruz7033
2 жыл бұрын
You say that but Ben didn’t say anything about it when he was with josh in the press conference
The thing is, this has been happening for a long time now, and nothing's ever been done about it. Yes, that was a shocking decision. I feel heart felt sorry for Catterall; he should be taking those belts home with him. But even this situation won't change a thing!! This is the one of things I hate about the sport of boxing!! This type of decision won't be the last either.
@Kizdo69
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! Couldn’t have said it better myself. Realistically nothing will even happen to the judges and they’ll be involved in big fight again by the end of the year
@maggiemay7028
2 жыл бұрын
yes it will change..becuz its us the fans that can do it..
@johnknotts4801
2 жыл бұрын
@MAGGIE MAY My friend, it won't change. Let's say that it dose, and they overturn this to give Catterall the titles; they are going to have to go back for so many years and change the history books, there has been so many fights that this kind of thing has happened, but the thing is theres a lot of big money men involved, boxing Mafia so to speak. So I'm afraid it won't happen and it will never change.
@ianhope3203
2 жыл бұрын
This is up there with the worst wrong decisions ever in boxing history. Hopefully Catterall will box on at this level and sort it all out in the ring. Taylor was always overrated as proved last night. He'll go on to do nothing much at higher weights and hopefully be left begging for a rematch down the line just to earn a buck.
@iffyhussain8764
2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the main reasons I lost interest in boxing the cheating and robberies that have taken place is crazy!
absolute shocking for a young man who waits for this moment and you judges do this to him. Boxing lost today
I'm a proud Scotsman but that is an absolute disgrace! Pretty much made a decision to never watch boxing again! Jack Catterall comes up and puts on the fight of his life and gets robbed like that! Disgusting!
@ZEP0034
2 жыл бұрын
Fair play mate looked an amazing atmosphere in Scotland. Great night bit of England Scotland makes it awesome but its boxing and I like Taylor but Caterall won that with ease.
This sport is still so corrupt its a waste of time!
There should be an immediate rematch forced or Taylor should be stripped of his titles. The worst robbery I've seen in many years.
@GreatScottByJoe
2 жыл бұрын
Not even a rematch he should be stripped and Jack be given the belts he won!
@stevebb2915
2 жыл бұрын
He’s moving up so wouldn’t care
Scumbag Judges
WELL DONE TO THE SKY TEAM FOR SAYING EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAW. ROBBERY.
@BIZZYBSTRD
2 жыл бұрын
Different when it's an English fighter doing the robbing 🤷🏼
Fair play to Ben for being honest. Eddie Hearn the pathological liar would say "i had it close but the right man won".
@laoch5658
2 жыл бұрын
fair play? he was in on the fix
If Josh is a man of honour he'll make the immediate rematch.
Everyone who watched knows Taylor lost. Not even close
That’s why nobody wants to fight in the UK. For this reason, how many times has this not happened…… disgusting 🤢
ben fixed this fight..he came on tv to make it look like he was against the decision..the minute he was questioned about a rematch he said..i dont think we can do that. sky sports knew this fight was fixed from the start
Ben Shalom has just gone up in my estimation - respect for being honest
Big respect for Ben's response, discracefull result
So they should be embarrassed!! It's a disgrace
Well said 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Then as the promotion they should re evaluate the decision & the people who made it, as everybody in boxing knows its a robbery why can it not be corrected ?clearly it is corruption & not incompetence
Ben you absolute legend to speak so honest about this lad! Wasnt sure about you but i like the fact you are in boxing out of respect and love for the sport
If one judge had a proper score it would have exposed the other two, notice how long it took the scores to arrive it can’t be a coincidence all three were wrong, never let them near a fight again.
Sky should be ashamed.
It was close but Jack won clearly imo. Same old story with boxing judges. If Jack improved his body language throughout the fight I think he could of swayed the judges.
Honest and frank. Unlike Eddie. Fair play to him.
@oussama1149
2 жыл бұрын
you mean biased cuz that's his promoter but ok
@madi2005
2 жыл бұрын
Lol why u guys obsessed with eddie
@carlgill1386
2 жыл бұрын
@@oussama1149 he spoke the truth
Respect to Ben for saying it how it is!
Most unfair thing I've ever seen in competitive sports. Something needs to be done about this because it really is beyond a joke. The future of combat sports is fan voting post fight. The fans as a collective are always honest and correct. The Scots in that venue know their man got beat up tonight.
MAKE JUDGES ACCOUNTABLE
Jack put Josh down in round 8,but judge gave the round to Taylor?WTF!
There should be a external governing body to deal these types of things. Robberies happen over and over again in boxing but nothing ever gets done
Possibly the worst decision in boxing I've ever seen! Catterall the true champion!
@mr_kalyug
2 жыл бұрын
You not watched how Robin Reid was robbed against Sven Ottke? Yes this was up there as well
@hughzapretti-boyden9187
2 жыл бұрын
@@mr_kalyug that's why I said "possibly"....
This wasn't British boxing. It was Scottish with 3 Scottish judges.
@johnmccaughey2722
Ай бұрын
Pretty sure the judges were english
This should not be allowed...all the judges should be fired...clean up boxing give Jack his belts END OF.
have 5 judges, remove the 2 most extreme scores, and display the live round by round scoring. its not perfect, but it would be a start.
Fair play Ben good honesty 👏
I have to say I’m a big fan of Ben shalom, guy seems like he has a lot of integrity!
Well said & 100% an inquest should be held. The Judges need investigating & struck off in judging any future fights from ABA’s to School Dinners
I was that disgusted with what I witnessed I emailed the bbbc and requested they investigate it. I've never felt so compelled about a result to do this. I'm a fan of 50 yrs and will be contacting all the British promoters and demand they take action either removing the current referees and replacing them with ex boxers
I like this Dude., Ben is actually real about what happened at his event most promoters would not state the obvious
Should be embarrassed by the whole card, it was awful. Need to bring this to the BBBOC and demand they look into the scoring and the judges.
@simonmorgan225
2 жыл бұрын
They're as corrupt as anyone
Josh Taylor has a cheek saying “I know I won that fight and Jack knows it aswell” 😡
Fair play ben for being straight on that
Well said Ben...
Fair play to this promoter being 100% honest.
Fair play to Shalom for saying it how it is
Who the hell is ben shalom popped out of nowhere propped up by MTK
This was a very very close fight and my great uncle tony 86 years of age who is an ex boxer and referee said it was so balanced a fight that only a small breeze of wind could tip the scales in favour of any of the two of them ,
Uncle Bobs finest work
🥊 Sky Glad to see Ben Shalom keeps it honest. 👍🏽 Josh Taylor is a great quality fighter BUT Jack Catterall was ROBBED!! Justice for Jack pls ✊🏽🤨
Croatian pride worldwide ❤💪🥊🇭🇷🇭🇷
If I had placed a Sky Bet for a Catterall win I'd be wanting a refund.
@LoCk3H
2 жыл бұрын
PAddy power are refunding all bets..
The night honesty came out and everyone wants change
I think ben shalom could be a breath of fresh air for the sport, hopefully he'll be up for speaking out an getting something done, judging has been a problem for far too long, they need to explain there decisions for the world to see, at least let people try an understand how there scoring these fights.
ROBBERY, gutted for Catt and his trainers Asam, etc. Thus
This is when the judges need to be held accountable. Explain how you come up with 114-111 when NOBODY else in the world did
This is ridiculous, they need to take this to the commitee
well at least he's honest, i respect that
If this was a matchroom show Eddie Hearn works be getting hammered. Fair play toe Ben for saying it how it is.
my thoughts and prayers are with Matt and Hannah 🙏
Welldone Ben for speaking the truth about this fight, especially when your the promoter, cause I expected to hear alot of gash from you. But fair play lad, your spot on. Something has to change in boxing and soon, because results like this are really damaging the sport. Corruption at its finest, those judges should never be involved In boxing again.
If Ben shalom himself sees it as we all do this should be sorted. They need to make this the bout that changes stupid judging and realistic decisions made and obvious judgement take the stance for the future of boxing.
Pleased the promoter said this. Jack is the champion. I hope Josh stands up and has the humility to look at it and realise he didn't just win, but lost almost every round. I watched it with a house full of boxing fans. It wasn't even close in terms of points, but we all felt that this was the worst robbery in boxing ever seen. These judges should never be allowed near a fight again. Catterall, without any doubt should be given the belts. He is the champ
"You have to knock them out to get a draw!" Mickey Duff (late) Boxing Promoter & Trainer on British fighters fighting in Italy!
I'm 71 years old followed boxing all my life this has taken number 1 spot for the worst decision ever disgraceful
Gotta Love Ben For the truth 👌🏾
I knew they would rob him before the fight was even over
Fair play to Ben for saying it how it is! We know some promotors would of skirted around it with some waffle about styles make fights and close rounds in the judges eyes. Plain and simple, it was an absolute robbery, denying Jack his titles.
The judges need to get taken to court. What's the point on fighting and putting on a show when they've just been bribed!?
Respect to Ben
Respect to shalom for saying it like it is.
The promoter was embarrassed but the best of all he was honest
well said that man.
Still cant get over that, its like robbing a bank in broad daylight, live streaming it with no mask on then getting found not guilty
Brutally honest from ben you could say
Judges should be behind screens and not ringside. That way they have no excuses to hide behind when they produce skewed results.
They should literally take the loss of Catteralls record and make the rematch sack the ref and judges what a nightmare of a fight
Gutted for Jack Catterall there. Did Lancashire, England, himself & his family proud 👏 As a boxing fan it makes you feel sick that this can happen. Should be holding them belts tonight & his hard work should of been rewarded. Them scores have got to be looked into & hopefully overturned for the good of the sport 🤞
A sad day for boxing.
Catterall vs Taylor in Manchester is a must.
The judges are like mainstream media 🤣
This is why boxing will always be a niche sport. This sort of decision brings boxing in to disrepute. The casual viewer will laugh at this sort of thing. It has yet again set the sport back years.
And this is why boxing will never reach the heights that it's capable of. As a fan I'm thinking what's the point in watching so I can only imagine what the fighter must feel like. Judges like this should have to speak after results like this and not be able to remain faceless. Terrible decision
Even the promoter was embarrassed about that
They say boxing away in Italy you have to KO your opponent to get a draw. Apparently its worse in Scotland.
Question is, how can this be stopped?
Hearn would of had it level going in to the final round , nothing in them rounds could of gone either way, apples and pears , apples and pears fake smile , cheeky banter , apples and pears.. Well done Ben
Old saying...The camera never lies...Try telling that to Jack Catterall..
Embarrassed for the Scottish crowd cheering that robbery when the “winner” was announced. Embarrassing