Wow it's so crazy that Ludwig made up this whole background story and filmed all this footage and reenacted the matches just to explain away the loss to Exter

@xer1000

Жыл бұрын

Rofl facts

@dunkindon123

Жыл бұрын

L move by Lwig

@rbkdestroyer3929

Жыл бұрын

😂

@drewluv___

Жыл бұрын

and every other fan he lost too 💀

@cobaltbeau

Жыл бұрын

pointing out the 'hand signal' was a nice touch

no one puts the effort into gaslighting their own chat quite like ludwig. I love it

@nug203

Жыл бұрын

@@p-__ I don't need proof, I immediately believe you

@hikarinopower8090

Жыл бұрын

I love when Jerma occasionally gaslights new viewers

@twigs4611

Жыл бұрын

@@nug203 its a bot

@nug203

Жыл бұрын

@@twigs4611 how fun are Yt comments these days :/

@thekingofpotatoes1932

Жыл бұрын

Shoutout to simpleflips, still cant look at burgers without screaming in fear

imagine being a random chatter and realizing in this video that when you thought you beat Ludwig you actually beat Zain

@Chad-bc9vi

Жыл бұрын

​@@tormint5294 the best donkey kong player and actually the best gamer of all time will always be Billy Mitchell, don't get it wrong next time

@monke4044

Жыл бұрын

​@@Chad-bc9vi Bro haven't seen the billy mitchell case in court lmfaoo. Go look it up bro he's a con artist, he lost the case so don't get it wrong next time. There are channels like karl jobst who explained the case, he even shows the proof. Billy mitchell never actually played on an original donkey kong arcade machine, so he got an advantage of using a modified 8 way controller instead of the original 4 way. This means his donkey kong "record" is faulty. And he and his "friends" gave a false testimony in the court when they said he played on an original donkey kong arcade machine. karl jobst also explained about other cases of billy mitchell where he was "allegedly" cheating, with most of them proven to be true while the rest remains unsolved due to lack of proof.

@wrzlbrmpf7235

Жыл бұрын

@@Chad-bc9vi important note, if Billy Mitchell sees the comment by @Tormint he will probably sue him

@Chad-bc9vi

Жыл бұрын

@@wrzlbrmpf7235 knowing Billy Mitchell? He probably already did sue him lol

@HeyzDexy

Жыл бұрын

Majority of chatters wouldn't have the game installed or even be anywhere competent at this level.

I watched the whole thing live and can confirm that no one suspected a thing, me included. Shenanigans were afoot and not a single peep from the viewers…

@VixeyTeh

Жыл бұрын

A girl is no one... 😇

@tytaanis

Жыл бұрын

@@VixeyTeh did you suspect it? i see you here all the time so i’d believe it :)

@elenalatsis5131

Жыл бұрын

If you let him shenan once, best believe he'll shenanigan

@nimeesha4388

Жыл бұрын

yea same i had no clue 😂

@LoLbeautifulsorrowx

Жыл бұрын

I literally saw in this video, some of the chatters saying scripted. lol

Luds acting is so on point, i Lowkey thought he was the new goat

@get_your_mood_right_

Жыл бұрын

when watching live I was a bit disappointed by his reaction to beating The smash legend. I was expecting a huge popoff, this explains it lol

@VixeyTeh

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, Ludwig's acting was perfect. The only times something tipped me off or made me feel like something was sus was when his Jigglypuff did hinky things. Like when it up aired Exter when Ludwig was kind of AFK not even looking at the screen. Or...I don't really know how to explain this really, but Ludwig's Jigglypuff has more charisma. Like...it wiggles with style and taunts his opponents ...like there was this weird lul in playfulness that FELT off. I didn't hard know exactly what was going on but I kept feeling moments of sus that I shrugged off.

@KeeleTasume

Жыл бұрын

He said "I brought Zain in." And it all clicked to me that starting from exter it was rigged. It was a fantastic play on his end, didn't suspect a thing. So frustrating seeing it in video form. Lol

@bh_quicksilver251

Жыл бұрын

​@@VixeyTeh but Lud was the one playing against Exter...

@VixeyTeh

Жыл бұрын

@BH_Quicksilver there was a moment that he was looking under the desk, not even at the screen. His Jigglypuff up aired with perfect timing. Ludwig was not even looking at the screen when it happened.

Ludwig? Cheating? Noooo.... Ludwin would never

@manymustfall

Жыл бұрын

Ludwig? Yes. Ludwin? Never.

@pedro_antuness22

Жыл бұрын

Its a bit weird that he comes publically to confess he cheated on multiple amongus games and then continues the lying streamer legacy by cheating against his own chat XD

@LifeWithTim1

Жыл бұрын

@@pedro_antuness22 To be fair... Hes just to damn good at gaslighting us haha Never gave any indication that he wasn't playing hes a hell of an actor lol

@speeeee35

Жыл бұрын

@@pedro_antuness22 yeah it’s as if he’s trying to entertain us… like he’s some kind of…. Entertainer….

@Super_Wooper

Жыл бұрын

​@@p-__ Prove it

“im not even tryjng” *pans to pro gamer leaned forward with his elbows on a cushion* “im not even trying”

@VixeyTeh

Жыл бұрын

🤣 I guess that's technically true. LUDWIG was not even trying. 🤣

losing my mind at the fact that not only was ken on survivor, he was on one of the most insane seasons of the show lmfao

@helchin93

Жыл бұрын

That season is the pinnacle of reality tv. I didnt really watch melee back in the Ken era so when I saw his "pro gamer" subtitle I had no idea who he was. I really miss when they did the show in locations other than the Fijian Islands.

@ej9754

Жыл бұрын

Hello i am also a survivor fan 😃👋Corinne kaplan slayed gabon

@Vicious357

Жыл бұрын

Which season was it?

@Ralduin76

Жыл бұрын

​@@Vicious357 Season 17 - Gabon. That season was insane.

@Vicious357

Жыл бұрын

@@Ralduin76 Thanks!

Truly one the smash pro player of all times.

@unfamiliarrobloxian7952

Жыл бұрын

🤖

@ChamsEddine97

Жыл бұрын

@@unfamiliarrobloxian7952 me? Or the other one?

@ISTANBALLER

Жыл бұрын

I remember this stream

@gruntilda2

Жыл бұрын

No just one of the smash players of all time lol

@VsAngeel

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

The fact that someone that knew smash that well didn’t figure it out is kinda crazy. Great acting as well from lud, I had no clue.

@TheTrueiceking

Жыл бұрын

He lost a lot of games not in the edit that made it very believable

@nicoataiza7850

Жыл бұрын

Zain was getting clapped on in that stream 😭

@Eclipse-lw4vf

Жыл бұрын

I mean, when u play one character for thousands of hours it doesn’t matter how good or bad u r. One tricks (which is basically all smash is) are terrifying because they may be mad, but they know their character to near perfection

I dont hate how this has become a series where Lud challenges people but secretly has a pro play for him

The fact that ludwig did better against ken than Zane did against some of Ludwig’s chatters is insane to me lol

@omarholder9036

Жыл бұрын

Not really. There are certain ironclad rules pros do that is almost like a mutual understanding kind of thing. The spacing, the punishes they go for. It can feel almost robotic. There is a chaotic rhythm to playing against random people on line who don't go for the optimal all the time.

@SgtJuls

Жыл бұрын

They weren’t random chatters tho…

@andersj91

Жыл бұрын

Zain lost to top 100 players and Ken isn't that good anymore... He even said himself he hadn't been playing. Also Zain literally picked jigglypuff up cold he doesn't play him.

@sirminimuffin4196

Жыл бұрын

@@andersj91 it’s not that deep dawg

@charismatic9467

Жыл бұрын

@@sirminimuffin4196 Then why comment about it dummy

The only thing Lud destroyed is his reputation. 😂

@unfamiliarrobloxian7952

Жыл бұрын

🤖

@jorgekeroge6067

Жыл бұрын

What reputation?

@Mr.Chick3n

Жыл бұрын

True lol

@Jeffdachefz

Жыл бұрын

he lived up to his scumbag cheating reputation, its expected. we love this shit.

@VetNovice

Жыл бұрын

@@Rocpacci Can’t go lower than 0. On par for sure.

I can’t believe you signed zain. One of the first videos I watched of yours was when you sponsored him for genesis, so to have the world come full circle like that is crazy

@SpankinDaBagel

Жыл бұрын

​@@p-__ Homie you gotta stop smelling your own farts. We want the best for you, but you've sniffed over a dozen today. You need help.

@lonnieNII

Жыл бұрын

Literally was the first Ludwig video I ever saw and have been following both him and Zain ever since! Crazy

2:48 "He wasn't just losing to good people, he was losing to some random-ass people. SSB_Seal? Really Zain?" I can't believe this is how I'm getting namedropped, LUDWIG YOU CAN SEE ME IN THE YARD TOO 1V1 ANY DAY FOR ANOTHER $100!!!!

@Erinyx5

Жыл бұрын

+100

@UGSHavard

Жыл бұрын

Wholly undeserved

@fletch4231

Жыл бұрын

Get his ass bruh

@gdogsgdogsgdogs

Жыл бұрын

Lmao L + ratio

@agentpaint

Жыл бұрын

FR put some respect on SSB_Seal he’s a real one

Ludwig has set it up so that literally any time he wins any game from now on, chat will assume there's someone else playing for him

How the flip did Zane lose to some chatters and this makes me feel better for Ken.

@shanecameron6667

Жыл бұрын

@@p-__ weirdo

@deatheater6222

Жыл бұрын

cause he was playing a character that he doesnt normally play

@amayasokanon2806

Жыл бұрын

Predictability. There is a thing about beginners luck, and it's due to beginners being unpredictable and messing around and having fun but doing none of the standard moves. Like in chess, there are move sets and ideas for everything to play constant top strategy, but when someone comes in who cares nothing about that then your are constantly changing things on the fly as well. Zane and Ken are pro players who know how to counter pro player moves, when someone swings from the right black from the left. Chat is like if you came after a professional sword man stabbing and charging with no care if you win or loose, that's practically impossible to defend

@TheStrangeBloke

Жыл бұрын

Ludwig's "'chatters"" have some absolute killers. Fricking Ringler could give Zain's Marth trouble. But overall Zain kinda cleaned up.

@shm0n3y

Жыл бұрын

@@TheStrangeBloke Ringler is just goated tho, gotta love a good DK

Ludwin wouldn't have to cheat to beat his chat

@unfamiliarrobloxian7952

Жыл бұрын

🤖

@arrow-1237

Жыл бұрын

How much did he paid you 😒

@Desterothx

Жыл бұрын

Old Ludwig wouldn't have needed it either

@Rupally

Жыл бұрын

Mogul Mail might have. But he probably could convince us otherwise with his journalism skills that Ludwig can only wish

@Coyotebongwater69

Жыл бұрын

It was all fun & games, not that deep

I REMEMBER THIS STREAM AND I COMPLETELY FELL FOR IT

@favray

Жыл бұрын

Wym u remember it? It was 6 days ago bro😂

@ChristinaMagma

Жыл бұрын

@@favray maybe lud has alot of streams where he plays smash but they remember this exact one?

@RealOxis

Жыл бұрын

@@favray fr he’s acting like he had to dig deep lmao

I’m really wondering how many people get the reference to him doing this. It’s like a weird core memory i forgot about being brought back into the limelight. I’m pretty sure back in the Smash 4 days a kid went viral in the community for being extremely good, and it turned out to be a pro player playing for the kids behind the scenes. I don’t think I even watched the original video from back then but surprisingly this video touched me. I’m nowhere near as heavily invested in the smash community as I was when I was a teenager but this brought me back. Thanks Lud :)

@brandonspencer8651

Жыл бұрын

fucking found it karissa the destroyer lmao. can’t believe that was like 9 years ago.

@cuccieo9

Жыл бұрын

@@brandonspencer8651 Also related to this was a promotional event for smash 4 at Gamestop or smthing where they had this little kid playing everybody and destroying. In reality KDJ was behind the scenes playing

@brandonspencer8651

Жыл бұрын

@@cuccieo9 yeah that’s what i’m talking about. Karissa the destroyer. this vid is such a good throwback

my favourite part was when he destroyed his chat with a pro player

@imlunch

Жыл бұрын

Me too

@unfamiliarrobloxian7952

Жыл бұрын

🤖

@Channeldyhb

Жыл бұрын

would have been funnier if he played normally and then he just had a couple of people play really bad repeatedly so it wasn't even his chat, it would have been even funnier than that if he did this and also didn't even use the chat

@aguyontheinternet8436

Жыл бұрын

that was so little of the video bro, only 3 min of it was him destroying chat. Zane and Lud fighting Ken was way cooler

@sterlifyy

Жыл бұрын

@@Channeldyhb would have been funnier that would have been funnier do you think that would have been funnier funnier haha?

I watched Ken on Survivor years ago and I had no idea he was actually a pro SSB player.. I remember on his season him saying that he loved video games but never got into details about what he played or how good he was. That’s so cool. I remember his season being really chaotic and fun to watch.

@gyuvinistics

Жыл бұрын

gabon was so messy that it was super entertaining fr lmao

Ludwig flexing his smash commentator experience with this one. He gives live breakdowns of what's going on which really sold the illusion.

@VixeyTeh

Жыл бұрын

😅 ha ha yeah, what sounded like commenting was really him backseating all along. 🤣

Lud owes Ken a bro vs pro rematch after this

@theelectricant98

Жыл бұрын

True

@RogerCh888

Жыл бұрын

fr fr, that would be content too

The fact that Ludwig made up a whole backstory just to troll his chat is crazy

Ludwig is such a malicious sneaky boy and that's why I love his streams and vids

I just felt bad for Ken cause I thought Lud was cooking him lmao

NO WAY THIS WAS STAGED I DONT BELIEVE IT I FELL FOR IT SO HARD

4:56 Love the little nod to the Smash Bros Documentary with the music choice

This is a masterclass in scamming (losing to Exter was sandbagging, and switching between him and Zain is similar to the casino technique of changing between weighted and unweighted dice, which makes it harder to notice the cheat). If everybody exposed themselves like Ludwig does, Coffeezilla wouldn't have a channel.

Honestly props to Zain for not giving up the game with screeches and shouts for some of those losses, lmao. Great con.

I hope that random person that beat Zain sees this

He was indeed one of the super smash bros players

Poor Ken, met him once. he is a really nice guy

7:25 someone in the chat said "pay to win" they called it.

Just remember if Lud is ever suspiciously amazing at something he's probably cheating.

@Kaori--

10 ай бұрын

?

I was there and I had literally no clue so this video was a surprise lol Your acting was actually pretty good!

If better timed, could have been one of the best april fools ever

He beat a god gamer without even playing the game. Truly an inspirational victory.

Some major old Ludwig vibes from the beginning of the video.

Huge shoutout to Ludwin for exposing Ludwig’s cheating and exploitation of the team MogulMail has put so much effort into

Bruh this man bout to cheat in every game at least once

You guys are hella sick for sponsoring Zain! Can't wait to see more content featuring him

So hyped to see Zain on Moist Moguls. Watching melee for so many years, this video was amazing

What a sick concept for this video, absolutely loved it!! Was really entertaining especially since I was watching live and yet the video was somthing else I hadnt seen... such a cool way of formatting the video

Hiring one of the best smash players and then having them play for you so you can gaslight the chat into thinking your good is such a power play.

their acting were so good, I almost thought Zain actually played for him, but clearly Ludwig is just that guy

Ludwig on his transforming arc from scammer to cheater

Zain joining moist is so sick, really hyped to watch his matches in your team ^^

Ludwig wants to troll viewers.... *Ken enters chat* 7:35 xD

4:54 the music change up when Zain taps in was great 😅 awesome bit on this one.

I never thought about it much even though I know that streamers talk to their monitor. But still hilarious to see how expressive he is to a monitor

Ludwig believed in Zain's skills even after all those initial Ls. That's like a proud parent & gamer kid relationship. Beautiful.

This was a really fun stream. Melee heads feasting.

Bro took backseat gaming to a whole another level

“Rests i havent even seen hungrybox do” into the rtc rest is absolutely hilarious

I’m so happy I was in that chat last week lud had me fooled

Ludwig would have always made millions, if it wasn't streaming it definitely could have been acting!

it wouldve been funny if his greenscreen fell and you could just see the dude playing for him in the back lmao

ludwig's acting is so good, i thought he was actually good at smash for a second there

I love how insanely humble Zain is the whole time

2:17 HE SAID IT HE SAID IT HE SAID IT

Literally any time he does something half decent in a game now Chat: Who's playing for you ???

Loved this! I kinda wish you did a Marth ditto for the last game of the set or something, would have shocked chat and Ken completely - then the Zain reveal at the end. lol

Every time this man goes live now with a greenscreen, to do anything, I am convinced he has someone sitting next to him

When the only way lud gets his chat's respect is by gaslighting them in a video game 😂

Ludwig is literally one of the ppl to piggyback off of the melee scene. good job

Great idea for a vid and fun to watch. Nice work Lud

4:10 "Moist Moguls... the esports team that *I started* with Charlie" Scamming himself with scammers, scamming us with clickbait titles, now gaslighting us into thinking *he started* Moist Moguls with Charlie and *not* the other way around. Ludwig is a riot 😂

That certainly explains how he up aired Exter when he wasn't even looking at the screen. 🤣 Honestly, that's when I thought my streamer be -ing.

Ludwig is teaching me that no lack of skill can’t be overcome by a little extra money.

This is the best kind of bamboozle, well played Lud well played

he truly was one of the ssb players of all time not one of the best not one of the worst just one of them.

Actually had me fooled during this stream! I thought you were playing a little too good

Loved this video! I was there for this stream and didn't suspect a thing!

Lud - the reveal would be really satisfying for this type of video. If you woulda had Zain do marth dittos on game 7 that would have been incredible 😂

Now I understand why we didnt get the Ludlocke that was advertised

as Zain proved its not about skill its about knowing your character well then skill. if you random select characters for each match that is when you find the best players. not people that play only one char well but many.

Omg this was the first stream of Luds I watched, I stg I was waiting for the “I’m the new world champion melee king god gamer!” Video and I get this 😂 well played

Moral of the story : "don't get into someone's privacy without invitation"😂

Ludwig lied, People died.

Amazing video, watched it all and it’s such a goated video. Great job!

@ardenwii

Жыл бұрын

i know for a FACT the video just came out and you did not watch it all. you are LYING.

bro has a bottle of henny just sitting on the desk 2:07

"Hitting rests I haven't even seen hungrybox do before" *Proceeds to show the most basics of rests.

It was weird to me just how easily lud let the "impromptu smash 1v1" hijack that whole stream. I figured he was farming for yt by losing to chat....this is even worse 💀

This was hilarious! I can't believe you actually hired a pro gamer to take down your chat. The reactions were priceless, and it was entertaining to watch the chat get taken down one by one. I can't imagine how frustrating it must have been for the viewers, but it was all in good fun. Props to the pro gamer for being so skilled, and props to you for coming up with such a creative and entertaining idea for a video. I'm definitely subscribing for more!

Pro smasher, pro gaslighter. Love ya lud

Bro I love when he does videos like this

This is so awesome!

@Nawakooo0

Жыл бұрын

Well, well, well... look who it is

@joelhagdahl5769

Жыл бұрын

GimR

Zain is such a cutie

I was in chat the whole time saying “there’s no way he’s actually playing this good”😂😂

one of the pros of being a youtube frog is that i will NEVER be gaslit

If the chatters beat Zane and Zane beat ken. Then that means the chat is better than ken. ಠಿ⁠_⁠ಠ

@bum-erdeneboldbaatar9586

Жыл бұрын

the "chatters" he lost to are top 100 caliber players lmao

@itsbmeGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@bum-erdeneboldbaatar9586 That and Ken hardly plays yet was keeping up anyway.

0:48 is that supposed to be a towel? Or is this California drip that is just a colorful long skirt?

Seal disrespected here man lmaooo

Just a normal day Lud scamming his chat

Damn I really was rooting for Zain the whole time and got so hype when lud won....i feel betrayed 😔 But knowing this looking back this makes the stream all more funny

Amazing cover for Lud being washed up 😘

Ludwig: I am better than 99.9% of you Zain, cracking his knuckles: 100%*

wouldn't expected any less for ludwig to do this