Thanks to Euro Cycle for sending us this bike to use for a bit! It's super weird, and it ain't no turbo busa.

@SinuousGrace

3 жыл бұрын

The belt drive is great -- makes it quieter, makes it smoother, and eliminates another branch of maintenance.

@leoncaples2947

3 жыл бұрын

Bro.. I WANT IT.

@kawasaki_kid8704

3 жыл бұрын

It seems like its a lot lower maintenance than a gas motorcycle. I'd consider one if the range were better and they sounded like an inline 4.

@project213

3 жыл бұрын

Can you review the Harley livewire next?

@antonbonin5003

3 жыл бұрын

@@project213 It's worse in every way.

They should make an electric bike sound like a tie fighter.

@danrib4048

3 жыл бұрын

Now THAT... would change everything!

@royalecrafts6252

3 жыл бұрын

You can actually do that

@84chopper84

3 жыл бұрын

They do it with cars just sound system

@royalecrafts6252

3 жыл бұрын

@@84chopper84 could they put those on a motorcycle? or even do it on a somehow DIY level (not so diy tho)

@eklipsecool

3 жыл бұрын

I hope whey can do with 250 or 1300

That turbo busa interruption is the most turbo busa bro thing you could have done. Hahahaha

@Nicox-cw6zu

3 жыл бұрын

Would like but it’s on 69

@leoncaples2947

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nicox-cw6zu You can like now, it's at 82

@benzinschnueffler187

3 жыл бұрын

🅱️USA

@dillongoble7483

3 жыл бұрын

Cracked me up so hard

@tahlillacewala7092

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nicox-cw6zu ť

Quiet doesn't always mean boring and loud doesnt always mean cool. This goes for people and vehicles.

@rosomak8244

Жыл бұрын

Loud never means cool. It means idiot.

Seems like no-one commenting here has ever ridden a bicycle down any kind of slope. Freewheeling is one of the more enjoyable aspects of bicycling - no effort, just the sound of the wind in your ears and your tyres on the road. Now imagine being able to freewheel UPHILL at 80mph. What’s not to like?

@portlandshomlessproblem1728

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t really like super loud motorcycles I like the stock exhaust usually, the part I don’t like is the lack of gears and shifting, automatic cars and bikes put me to sleep

@g496r500t

3 жыл бұрын

Apparently you’ve never ridden a bike uphill. The WORK is the joy and an electric bike makes for little visceral work. Meh.

@mrbanana7167

3 жыл бұрын

@@g496r500t both are fun, except if you need to go up a long steep hill when you're not in the mood for it lol (coming from someone who rides a normal bicycle and a motorized (2 stroke) one)

@phateracing

3 жыл бұрын

@@portlandshomlessproblem1728 you'd think that would bother you, but it's not like an automatic at all. I'm pretty much full manual-elitist-jerk with cars, but I bought an EV to daily drive last year and love it. With a manual you're shifting to keep the engine in it's optimal powerband so it does what you want it to when you get on the power. With an automatic or CVT you get on the power and have to wait for the transmission to shift before it pulls like you want it to. With an EV there are no gears and no way to disconnect the motor from the wheels. The torque curve is basically a big horizontal line. You get on the throttle and you have torque going to the wheel. It responds like a manual that's always in the right gear, because it never shifts, and you can get more/less torque faster than you can move the throttle.

@911Salvage

3 жыл бұрын

I've tried the Zero SR/S, and I loved it. I will definitely get an electric bike when prices have become reasonable and mileage per charge doubled. In the mean time, I'm not letting go of my MT-07.

I haven't spent much time on a Zero, but in my short ride, I felt like stripping away all the mechanics of riding (clutch, shifting, sound, etc) shifts your focus to different areas. I felt a lot more tuned in to my surroundings and dialed in to the ride itself. I think a lot of us take for granted how much of our cognitive effort is consumed by the mechanical aspects of a motorcycle. It's probably fair to say that many people enjoy that aspect of a traditional motorcycle, but the BEV motorcycle is a whole new experience that can be enjoyed on its own merit. I *really* want both in my life.

@saoirsethewanderer

3 жыл бұрын

I love my electric motorcycle for this reason too. You can feel the corners more and be more in tune with the surroundings.

@exerpachuau5486

3 жыл бұрын

Well said,the fact that this is what we really needed now while we also get used to the traditional engine powered bikes is gonna set a whole new game for many,and i do understand the hates and complains of EV.

@lucalucente3797

3 жыл бұрын

In your opinion it is right to say that an electric bike allows the rider to pay more attention to the road ahead and other vehicles? In other words riding an electric bike is safer compared to a ICE motorcycle?

@jana731

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucalucente3797 i think what he was saying, was that HE did it but didn't mean anyone would

@ThomasDoubting5

3 жыл бұрын

Fairplay ive never ridden one but thats pretty much how i imagine it would be like.

"There's no clutch it's so strange" Scooters: Am I a joke to you?

@navyrotc2012

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@Stratocasterhead51

3 жыл бұрын

Yes you are! :p

@OrlandoRick

3 жыл бұрын

Or the Honda DCT products in the last decade...

@tequilasunrise9667

3 жыл бұрын

At least you can hear a scooter passing by

@leoncaples2947

3 жыл бұрын

@@tequilasunrise9667 It depends on which scooter you get.

Great review, although I haven't tried the SR/F yet, I tested most of the zero lineup and I would never use the word divorced, I felt super connected but in a completely different way than a performance gas bike, the motor is way way more responsive than any gas bike. You also feel *much* more connected to nature when riding these things, it's beautiful.

I've got a Zero DSR, my partner has a Zero SR/F. Absolutely love them.

@musk-eteer9898

3 жыл бұрын

i have a 2014 zero sr, now my ice bike collection dust.

YAMMIE NOOB is the cabbage dealer from Avatar The Last Airbender. Chang my mind.

@busboijamz7191

3 жыл бұрын

He has no cabbages

@randomlife6507

3 жыл бұрын

😂

@ernestochang1744

3 жыл бұрын

Im offended by this

@EssiCrana

3 жыл бұрын

My cabbages!!!! 😂

I really appreciate this new style of content. The lists with the "Yam" personality are fun but they get old fast! Much more effective to add sprinkles of it like the cowboy outro bit! Thanks for your work.

Haven't been over to this channel in a while. Production value and maturity has skyrockets in the past couple years, very cool to see. Good on you!

the thing I love about a zero, and I do want one in my stable: it is unapologetically what it is. It is not trying to be something like the live wire, or the smaller electric bike/moto things; it's just a fun motorcycle to ride, that happens to be electric.

Next: Zero VS Busa straight line full acceleration

@kevinlind4640

3 жыл бұрын

I'm interested in this too!

@DNToquer

3 жыл бұрын

The SR/F supposedly has a 0-60 of 3.6s.

@rhaynhillyard9772

3 жыл бұрын

Vs turbo busa

@saoirsethewanderer

3 жыл бұрын

Need to get a Harley Livewire and that is flat 3 and does a pretty darn quick 1/4 mile.

@sushrutdongargaonkar2073

3 жыл бұрын

Zero vs Turbo busa

"The hopes and dreams of a harley boy who cant hear his engine anymore"! Love that!

Can't wait for these things to develop more, get cheaper and have something for every circumstance. I want it super light, low range, decent speed and high acceleration. Preferably in a Supermoto package.

@HairFollicle

2 жыл бұрын

U should get the zero fxe it fits ur requirements like a glove

@janred94

2 жыл бұрын

@@HairFollicle I have looked at Zeros, but imo they are still a bit pricey.

@djpollo2474

2 жыл бұрын

What about the sur ron

@HairFollicle

2 жыл бұрын

@@djpollo2474 i dare u to take that flimzy thing to the highway lol

@jeffquickle3793

2 жыл бұрын

Then you need to get the F77 from Ultraviolette Automotive! The Bike is coming out in the next month or two and it will take over the World! The buys/brains behind that bike are second to none! Watch every video you can find on that bike!

Should have tried some playing cards in the spokes !!!

@eklipsecool

3 жыл бұрын

opinion is free way. Maybe you need hand dirty and fix car by your self, insted to wait and shop open they can change tyre

@HertaSeggs

3 жыл бұрын

@@eklipsecool Cheeseburgers and tacos?

If its 0 cc Does that mean i can get this as my A1 bike??

@SRNAR8

3 жыл бұрын

no because they have a kW LIMIT.

@mistirion4929

3 жыл бұрын

theoretically yes however you also have a power limit with a1 which lies around 11kW

@SRNAR8

3 жыл бұрын

@@mistirion4929 you only have a power limit on the website aswell, no hp limit or something written (ofc u can convert kW to hp for limit but its not on website xD)

@mistirion4929

3 жыл бұрын

@@SRNAR8 you know that it doesn't work this way do you?

@SRNAR8

3 жыл бұрын

@@mistirion4929 yh ik lool

My concerns would be switching off and relaxing because without the noise i can imagine that could be quite hypnotic.

YN rides an electric bike: what a stange bike! Some KZreadr later riding a vintage IC engine bike in future, 20 years later : what a strange bike!

@FlyingFun.

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it will be a dying art to be able to ride a manual bike, people will wonder how and why we put up with it. I always thought the gear changing to stay in the torque range was a waste of time and we needed something better and electric is the answer.

I love my Zero. They offer a wide range of electric motorcycles. Amazing rides!

Cool beans. About time. Thx dudes.

@leoncaples2947

3 жыл бұрын

Oh you're a guy with EVs. Cool.

as an nc driver i tell you what goes inside the front trunk: rain gear, never worry about getting cought in a rain getting soaked anywhere

I had a similar experience on a much smaller level but still cool after riding a 125cc Yamaha scooter and then renting a Gogoro electric scooter in Taiwan. It was so cool, and the controls were exactly the same as you don't have a clutch on a scooter either. The experience of having instant torque and power but without the hot noisy and inefficient petrol engine was a great experience and if I lived in Taiwan I would definitely buy one. They also solved the recharging problem with battery swap stations all over the country that it's quicker than filling up petrol.

Strides of quality progression here at yammie noob. I'm impressed maybe I'll buy a motorcycle now.

I love quiet, fast, stealthy everything, cars or motorcycles.

@omarhirobertson7469

3 жыл бұрын

Can’t be trusted lmao

@generalyellor8188

2 жыл бұрын

@@omarhirobertson7469 You must be old and stick in your ICE ways.

This the first video I seen from you guys and I think the both pov perspectives, seamless transitions, hearing you both talk in different mics is dope asf

Tbh the fxs is definitely their coolest bike, I'm just happy the prices are finally coming down to where I will be able to buy one second hand in a few years

I test road a zero 6 years ago in Brooklyn NY .. and the thing that made me nervous,was people not hearing/noticing me as I came up to the intersections.

Man. that MT-09 has been stretched the hell out.

Love how he said “as long as you know how to balance on a bike you’re good to go” because that’s all I can do 😂 I was out driving and saw a biker riding one of these. I looked over and said “that’s a nice bike” as soon as he pulled the throttle I heard the electric roar. I immediately knew that’s what I wanted next

The smoothness is evident even in the video. So futuristic and cool. I love the whine, too.

"computers and whizbangery" This guy knows his stuff!

"What would you fit here?" - "Dunno. Maybe the hopes and dreams of a Harley boy who can't hear his engine any more" big lol!

This bike removes all the things that worry me as a novice rider. Great video.

Fantastic review guys. Thank you

me before : eehhh i prefer the sound of ICE yammy : shows trunk space me : take my money

I did a demo ride on the Harley LiveWire last summer. The acceleration was impressive. The handling was very good... for a Harley...

Watching the tt zero a few years ago was a real eye opener for these electric bikes. The future is coming.

Had the pleasure of riding Zero’s first model back in 2009 and it sure impressed me. I imagine this model is so much better.

I've been waiting for you guys to start to cover the series of electric bikes because they are insane in terms of both ability and price.

'about as futuristic as it gets' me just wanting hubless wheels...

It took me about a month to stop trying to downshift when coming to a stop. They're fun bikes. One other item: There's a throttle cutoff with the kickstand. You can't accidentally launch it while getting off the bike.

I had a go on one of these last week . The low down torque was crazy ! So fast and I liked the sound of the motor. I’m frustrated I can’t own one due to no where to charge it and the cost . When they’re more affordable and there are local chargers I want one for sure .

Papa Yams is way too obsessed with that turbo but... if I had one I would also be obsessed

Wouldn’t change in a million years the sound of motorbike engine for this fast electric bike .The most exciting part of riding my MT09 is start the engine and feel that akrapovic exhaust without Db killer 💪💪❤️

@generalyellor8188

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure the horse and buggy crowd of the late-19-Century said something similar when the ICE hit the mass market. "I miss the sound of my huffing, snorting horse." Some day every vehicle will be electric, leaving all of us gas-burning dinosaurs to the dustbins of history.

@Jaapst

2 жыл бұрын

@@generalyellor8188 So what? I HATE ALL electric shit. I want GASOLINE PLEASE AND SOUND. You can drink your soy latte at starbucks with your electric bike whatever you want but leave the REAL lovers of motorcycles alone.

Yaw are both very good on camera. Nicely edited. Props bro. Done very well. The things most ppl don't know about.

I love the idea of the electric motorcycle, it still has the huge downside of low range and long recharge times

Guys im interested in knowing the battery capacity and how many miles it gives per charge, love the content and looking forward for that TUBO BUSS

The belt drive is great -- makes it quieter, makes it smoother, and eliminates another branch of maintenance.

@MrFurley69

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe they should have went shaft drive

@RaceWithTime

3 жыл бұрын

in theory that's true...if they spec the belt correctly. I had a demo for a weekend and the belt snapped after about 40 miles of riding (bike only had 240 miles total). Perhaps the dealer set the belt tension incorrectly but even so if it only lasted 240 total miles that's seems like Zero is pushing a limit they shouldn't have been.

@kugangles9860

3 жыл бұрын

@@RaceWithTime 140lbs of almost instantaneous torque is a lot to be put on a belt. Probably would have been better to go chain to handle those loads better.

@RaceWithTime

3 жыл бұрын

@@kugangles9860 I mean a belt is plenty capable of handling it but it needs to be designed correctly. Harley's use belts and generate more torque at the output sprocket than the Zero does. The problem is Zero has a quite narrow belt and is wrapping around a pretty small diameter output sprocket (20 teeth). Those things result in comparatively low belt life and will exacerbate any other issues (install error or defect)

@gamekeeper687

3 жыл бұрын

Belts do still require maintenance 😂not very often but still, doesn’t improve smoothness either

I've driven an electric sportbike regularly for about 3 years now and I absolutely love it. I love how it accelerates and drives, and how easy it is to maneuver. Driving an electric, you get the whole battery/range/charging thing down really quickly. Never worried about running out of battery, as I know *exactly* how much I got down to the kilometer. Plus they're quiet. And they don't shake or vibrate. Only downside, is that there's no thigh warmer due to the lack of explosions under your junk :(

@Starfighter-nk4mo

2 жыл бұрын

Im sure you could wire up some heating elements lol

@enigmajourney6367

Жыл бұрын

What electric motorcycle do you own

Awesome Electric Cycle! This will bring big change!

You did not even mention its range, its limitations, and how long it takes to charge.

@JD-yx7be

3 жыл бұрын

Just plug it into 120v outlet overnight. Wale up fully charged in the morning. 120v can charge an ev car about 40 miles overnight i imagine a motorcycle would be much higher

@royblackburn1163

3 жыл бұрын

@@JD-yx7be 12 hour charge time for 40 mile range ?

@jayj3062

3 жыл бұрын

Go to there website if u cared enough ud already know this but u dont so y even ask weird tryna just complain weirdo

@cagasbura420

2 жыл бұрын

@@royblackburn1163 well you got the shitty voltage in the US, no a surprise.

@louispetitjean1652

2 жыл бұрын

I have a Livewire - at an electric station it goes 0 to full in an hour, charges to full at home in 8 hours - keep in mind that the last 20% takes disproportionately more time. It has 130 miles of range at least (but you wake up fully charged every day so unless you have a 3 hours commute, that's not a big deal. On leisure rides i charge while i eat). It's great. Person I ride with has a gas motorcycle and we spend more time going to gas stations to fill up his motorcycle than we do filling up mine.

J Juan brakes are one of the best brands for motorcycle racing, I'm surprised you didn't know, they are used at Dakar races, as well as Moto GP

I remember first moving my SR/S from the dealership when I came to pick it up, to over where my daughter's car was to get my gear. It was soooooo weird after decades of gas bikes... it was as if a ghost walked around behind me and pushed the bike over to the car. IMO the acceleration of this bike is similar to the thrust of an aircraft, no sudden change of acceleration, just huge amounts of it at a constant rate. Also if you want 100 percent for performance, you arent going to get it from "Sport" mode... you have to customize a ride mode and set the sliders all the way to 100. I think sport is like 90 percent. You can also turn off traction control to reclaim that little bit extra it holds back from you but believe me, that's a baaaaad idea. Yes you can. No you shouldn't.

After many years of owning and daily driving Harley’s and sport bike’s. A 2013 Zero S is my one and only now! I can’t say enough good about it. No clutch or gears etc. Great!

I have a electric moped that I modded, I can promise you, elctric can be hella fun!! The torque is nuts!

I feel like if I had an electric motorcycle, I'd turn into one of the bikers from South Park and just start making noises on my own

@danhay8933

3 жыл бұрын

What a bundle of sticks

Good luck to you !

Thanks for the info about that bike, love your videos tx from Denmark

Spite; weighs 400-something pounds, which is chunky for a naked bike. But, you just said it is nearly rocket3 torque! How much does that behemoth weigh?!? 700 pounds wet. This probably has twice the acceleration?

@daniellacko6620

3 жыл бұрын

2.6 sec on the Rocket 3 on the Zero. Even a day one rider can get the 3 sec out on the Zero because the torque line is straight and there is no chance for the tire to spin out meanwhile with the Triumph you launch that sucka like a noob you are dead *DEAD*

@RaceWithTime

3 жыл бұрын

The rocket 3 is way faster than the Zero...the math is pretty simple, the Zero has 630ft-lbs at the rear wheel while the Rocket 3 has 1380ft-lbs at the rear wheel in first gear...considering the rocket is only 40% heavier but has over twice the torque yeah it's gonna dominate the Zero

@rightwingsafetysquad9872

3 жыл бұрын

The difference is that with electric motors you get 100% torque immediately. With an engine, there’s a split second for the throttle to open. Then most engines don’t make very much torque below 1,500 rpm so you have to drop the clutch at ~3,500 rpm and wait the split second for the clutch to engage. Plus there’s the split second for the motor mounts to flex, whereas electric motors are usually hard mounted. Those are all measured in hundredths of seconds, but it adds up. At 0.50 seconds, the Rocket is accelerating faster, but at 0.05 seconds, the Zero is launched while the Rocket hasn’t really started moving yet. The throw you off the back of the seat instant torque application of the Zero is something that may not win drag races, but you really feel it.

@dresdonfury

3 жыл бұрын

The torque on this drains the blood from your head a bit like a wild roller coaster. It caught me off guard and I now constantly goose it around traffic at highway speed. 60 to 100 in no time

3 жыл бұрын

@@RaceWithTime "What is a power curve? A dyno test?"

I like smooth silent vehicles. The more smooth and silent, the better.

I ride a 2019 Zero S and a 2013 Triumph Daytona 675. Love the daytona but it's really for the track only. I commute daily and the Zero is a no brainer. Not just money saving wise but the street performance of a Zero is unbeatable. The instant torque will have u zigzagging through traffic and no more shifting into neutral at red lights.

You guys are fortunate having that kind of bikes. . Expensive ones

A guy I used to work with had a Zero SR. He decided to try a burnout at a stoplight we were sitting at and catapulted himself into the car in front of us. Luckily he and the bike (and car) were okay, but it was the funniest thing I've ever seen

I know the future is here, but I wanna ride my mechanical motorbike for as long as is still around. I love the sound & smell of it still.

@surrealartisan4625

2 жыл бұрын

Right. This is why I don’t understand half the comments in here. Maybe I’m too old school?!

I really like that zero. Looks cool and would be smooth to just ride around town. Wish it wasn’t so expensive

im sure the silence is Surreal! I would imagine the side effect of that quiet is that it Really makes you ultra aware of so many things around you that were drowned out in most normal bikes..Like u said, an almost Zen experience...meditative

If this becomes a giveaway I am definitely buying merch to get into that drawing.

Yes I've been waiting for this for so long these are honestly super fun I know it's electric and it feels like a toy but God damn if it's not the nicest toy

I'm really looking forward to a future with great electric street bikes priced around 5k. Most of the big manufactures are working together on swappable battery packs, already appearing on scooters, so I don't think charging / range will be a big issue. Still holding in to my s1000r for a long while yet 🥳

Not gonna debate about the pros and cons of electrifying bikes, but if it doesn't feel analog, if you can't connect while riding, for me, it's just a big power brick on wheels. Thanks for the video.

WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING? GO SUBSCRIBE FOR THE TURBO BUSA!

As someone who learned to ride on a zero, I have the opposite reaction than most riders have about the clutch and shifter. Whenever I ride a "normal" manual moto, it feels ancient and obsolete, to have to shift in order to get up to speed feels like needless complexity with gaps in power delivery. Being able to go from 0-100 with just throttle is really amazing, to use a manual afterwards feels like going backwards. I personally feel like the obsession with manual transmissions is holding motorcycling back. Gas bikes have a lot of advantages, from initial cost, top speed, and refuel time, but for my money the experience of riding electric is just much better. I do recommend putting a bicycle bell on it, for pedestrians in parking lots.

@andymorgan7676

3 жыл бұрын

Christ mate get yourself a horse, u won't have to change gear on that either, using gears is all part of riding a bike

@Isthislife2135

2 жыл бұрын

Get an automatic honda civic ya ween.

Silence is good but one thing I'm not seeing anyone talking about is how much danger it can put u in around other motorists and how you will have to change your riding style to be more visible or having some presence on the road for your safety

@davecarver1363

3 жыл бұрын

Bought one of these last summer. 2k miles before winter and didn’t change riding style one bit. If your relying on noise to protect you, your already doing it wrong.

@trevor2830

3 жыл бұрын

@@davecarver1363 not me personally but I do know many riders who do rely on noise as part of their technique or safety

I have an electric motorcycle for 2 month now, and the first rides were crazy. No shifting. Instead of clutch there is the rear brake like a scooter has. No noise, its damn disturbing just hearing the wind, rolling brakes etc....

Electric bikes are a very zen like experience. Riding becomes thoughtless and pleasing to all 5 senses.

@sandrosandri1763

3 жыл бұрын

Why are you on a bike site? Seems like yoga might be more you.

@pauldavies5655

3 жыл бұрын

no sense s are pleased --- it is for thought less people ! ZOMBIES !

@Steve-hh3pj

3 жыл бұрын

You really shouldn’t be tasting electric motorcycles lol.

@sandrosandri1763

3 жыл бұрын

@@pauldavies5655 NONSENSE bikes 🤣🤣🤣

@pauldavies5655

3 жыл бұрын

@@sandrosandri1763 ha ah ,,,, that is both no- sense and NONSENSE lol.

Regarding the battery, how long is the charge time and how many miles on a full charge?

@richmitch64

3 жыл бұрын

It was like 161-200 miles but the max you had to pay an additional 2 grand or so extra....with how big it is truly..with normal riding I wonder how far it really would go..

Been wanting a Zero or Energica as a commuter. Been watching NewZeroland about the bikes. Really want to see your guys take on the bike over the long term.

I just got into bikes like a month ago and now I have a dream bike thx

Thank goodness. Being on a H-D Roadster 1200 and a Zero SR/F, I feel these offer very unique experiences. With the Zero, it feels more like a tool than a toy - it doesn't really have any personality of it's own, but it does let you express your own without gimping it. That throttle is like a scalpel with surgical precision - in full on sport mode, i can still control the bike in a parking lot at 1mph without touching the ground. Whether your cruising a quiet neighborhood at 20MPH or popping dank power nooners from 40MPH, the Zero seems happy with it all. Other gas bikes seem to have quirks that impart their personalities on the rider. The H-D Roadster, for an example, does not seem to enjoy being below 50MPH and is much happier cruising a back road. Love 'em both though.

Yammie must be going crazy that he cant slap a Leo Vince exhaust on this bike...

The future for electric sports tourers with its smooth performance will be pretty impressive.

I love these kind of electric bikes

You need to get hold of the new Sondor electric motorcycle.

Miss shifting, don't miss shifting? That's like saying to your ex girlfriend "I'm so miserable without you, it's almost like having you here.

@984francis

3 жыл бұрын

Ha!

If you're used to a clutch you'd like my electric bicycle. I got used to pulling the left brake in slightly for motor cut out to change gear without pedal assist. Now I have the shift sensor it's not necessary in most cases.

Good voice and good tempo of presenting. Excellent content. Very good vid !

I'm very interested in one of these bikes. My only real take away is the poor range on the highway/freeways. I feel maybe with next gen batteries on the horizon it could be better. Also it has great acceleration, but lacks the top speed. Which is great for regular street use, but a bit of a drawback if you were at a track. I feel with a next gen solid state or other battery, and maybe a CVT or something to give it a little more "gear ratio" it would be the perfect bike. Overall I'm impressed from what I've seen and read. The reliability and simplicity of it make it easy for anyone to own. Not tinkering needed, the the maintenance intervals are more like a car or trucks than a bike. I mean what, check your tire and air pressure, make sure the brakes work, and the belt is tight, that's about it. Don't need to winterize it, no oil changes, nothing. It's the perfect toy, whenever your in the mood just roll it out of the garage and go have fun. I'm really interested in where EV'S will be in 4 to 8 years. They're very compelling, but just not quite there for me yet, almost. A little more range and a faster charge time, and I'll gladly walk into a dealer and slap a sales man with a fat stack of bills and say gimme.

@ec5838

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, electric power is awesome and has such potential. There is no doubt in my mind that it will be the future power plant for not just bikes but all land/air/sea vehicles if... and its a big IF... we can figure out a proper battery. The technology is there in every single way except for energy storage. A quick look at "energy density" of liquid fuels vs batteries and it becomes abundantly clear why electric vehicles are no way near practical yet. Its not even close. Edit: Oh and you say 4-8 years... tbh its not like waiting for the next generation car or computer... its down to fundamental chemical and physical barriers and those don't just get torn down every couple years. It could be 4 days (unlikely) or 4 years, 4 decades, or even 4 centuries before some new ultra dense (and SAFE) power source is discovered. We couldn't just throw in mini fusion reactors for example if we cracked that in the next decade. Its really a tough problem. Here's hoping though, the world would be revolutionized!

@Demonoid1990

3 жыл бұрын

@@ec5838 Many breakthroughs have been made on next generation batteries already. Some just need the facilities and equipment developed to put them into mass production. Others are still in testing or development phases. This is very high priority research, because whoever develops the first next gen cutting edge batteries will dominate the EV and electronics market for awhile. Solid state lithium ion, Rechargeable Zinc-Air, and Toyotas Sulfur based batteries are but a few on the verge of hitting the market very soon. Hybrids and possibly Hydrogen Fuel cell vehicles are a also alternative solutions. Who knows, electric driveterrains can be incorporated in a wide variety of ways. Solar is making vast advancements too, and there's also the possibility of incorporating wireless induction charging at traffic signals and other places in some cities. The development of energy technology is booming right now, and the market is becoming quite competitive again. I'm interested to see what manufacturers will have to offer in their portfolio by 2025.

@ec5838

3 жыл бұрын

@@Demonoid1990 I agree there is massive incentive and people are definetly trying, no question! However, even if someone figures out a better battery, that is: A-cost effective, B-safer, C-faster to recharge, etc etc (lots of challenges besides "more power") how much better? Will it be 20%? Maybe 200%? Even if its twice as good, its still gonna be 100x worse than hydrocarbons. Look at those charts that compare the energy density of gasoline to lithium batteries, its outrageous! Don't get me wrong, I would love to see a significantly better battery, and it would still revolutionize many things, but man... we'd need some sort of Star Trek level battery to permanently dethrone petroleum based fuels.

@markcrum5895

3 жыл бұрын

Great except when fuel supply is used up...you can't just get $15.00 worth of gas. Your gonna need probably hundreds of dollars for.a new battery. Then what do you do with the old one? And your talking hours of down time to recharge. So you should not be in a hurry to go long distance. ..

Dude cracking me up with the bike noises at the start...

It’s a great commuter, I ride it daily through LA traffic and with no work at all!

i'm new to your channel , and i was thinking , so far so good , then came the busa turbo clip , awwwe coool , and i subscribe

Scotty says hydrogen is the future, not electric

@JamesBiggar

3 жыл бұрын

Scotty's huffing too much hydrogen

I'm curious to see the future of e-motorcycles like this one. I can imagine that in a couple of years, once the battery size decreases & mileage increases, we'll see lots more of these on the road.

@thewanderingwolf7116

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's what I'm waiting for! My boyfriend has no interest in motorcycles, so hoping they become more practical and less expensive so I can convince him to ride with me 🤣

@marclapalme1394

3 жыл бұрын

I can see the range improve when they add a transmission. Either manual or DCT. There are electric motorcycles in Asia that have this.

@ec5838

3 жыл бұрын

"Energy Density" is a real problem here. Can't just shrink the lithium battery and get 4x the energy out of it. New battery tech is needed before they will ever come close to challenging conventional liquid fuel. And that will probably take decades if not centuries... I hope not, just being realistic tho...

@adriank6075

3 жыл бұрын

@@ec5838 you're right about the limits of conventional LI batteries, they're big and heavy. But who knows, looking at how increasingly fast new tech has been showing up, we might see a big change sooner than later. Come to think of it, hydrogen is very slowly creeping into the car market. Maybe in a few years we'll see some H-Squid-missiles :P

@adriank6075

3 жыл бұрын

@@thewanderingwolf7116 that's the dream eh? :D what do you ride?

Onestly the way you described the feel of riding it scared me, I don’t know why I just imagined it and thought it would freak me out... I’d love to try it to see if that’s what I would feel

This video is so awesome !

Ok, first time on the channel, how do you guys have such a clean audio during rides and sync it? Please, I'm serious. Someone tell me.

@Spinflight

3 жыл бұрын

My guess is they're just talking on the phone to each other as two body pack lav recorders are recording the audio. That's how I would do it anyways.

So if you have ever had a moped, scooter or automatic(twist and go) motorcycle, It feels like that just heavier.

@denrico777

3 жыл бұрын

No. Those have a torque curve. This doesn't.

Looks like fun 😄

Yam in the background adoring the turbo is soo funny 🤣😂